Non-believer
March 6th, 2017
Possible lottery winner?
Cranky Gabe Gabriel isn’t buying it.
If you think social media full of DeSean-Jackson-to-the-Bucs is a thing, just Google “Glennon, Bears” and have fun.
In fact, Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports posted a wild figure claiming (soon-to-be-ex?) Bucs backup quarterback Mike Glennon will sign with a team for $15 million a year. How does that grab ya?
This woke Gabriel, the former Bears scouting director and current archenemy of the creator, curator and overall guru of Pro Football Talk, the great Mike Florio, and of WalterFootball.com. Gabriel rose from his slumber and jumped on Twitter to essentially cry “Fake news!“
@greggabe: There are so many saying Glennon to the Bears that I think it’s false. When things get that obvious it’s usually bad info
And here is perhaps another possible example of an agent — doing his job — trying to gin up the market by dropping news (?) in the laps of friends with popular keyboards to ratchet up the market for his client and create a bidding war.
Meanwhile, Joe is still of the mind that $7 million for a backup anything is simply reckless.
March 6th, 2017 at 5:45 am
Wasn’t there another report that Glennon does not have an agent yet? If that’s true then how can those rumors be spread by the “agent”?
March 6th, 2017 at 5:45 am
We will find out in a couple days!
March 6th, 2017 at 5:59 am
Brad Biggs is no agent. Believe it! Chicago Tribune says Glennon to Bears.
March 6th, 2017 at 6:13 am
I am with you Joe. You could get another WR, TE or DT for that 7 mil, and that would impact your team so much more. I do not get the 7-8 mil for the backup QB either.
March 6th, 2017 at 6:20 am
Should have traded for a 4th
March 6th, 2017 at 6:22 am
So Gabrial’s take on it that if everyone’s saying ‘Glennon to the Bears’ that it’s false news. Hmmm, sounds like Gabrial himself has a twitchy Twitter finger. I’m guessing it was a slow news day Joe when JBF is penning articles on a backup QB who isn’t even on the Bucs roster anymore.
March 6th, 2017 at 7:10 am
Hmmmmm, that does not bode well for Desean Jackson to the Bucs according to Cranky Gabe Gabriel and his so called “Theory”!!!!!
March 6th, 2017 at 7:15 am
The market changes every year for every position. Don’t make the mistake that even Licht said people make of losing track of the market.
March 6th, 2017 at 8:24 am
I thought Glennon didn’t have an agent?
March 6th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Potential buyers remorse for saner minds. This is the age of insanity.
March 6th, 2017 at 8:56 am
@Joe
You’ve mentioned you’re at the Combine not for the underwear Olympics but because of the huge gathering of NFL GM’s, personnel guys, Coaches and plugged in reporters. We get the education that must provide!
Do you generally tend to ignore the agents? Do they try and plant stuff with you?
March 6th, 2017 at 9:18 am
The more appropriate title should be “Very Few Believers”….
Glennon, Murphy and Bell – Insurance you can trust!
March 6th, 2017 at 9:46 am
Was.
Joe rarely consults agents. They have vested interests not to be forthcoming. They have inherent agendas. Joe has seen way too many reporters get used by agents and ultimately hung out to dry. So, no, Joe has no use for agents. Can count on one hand how many times have called an agent in past five years.
Simply put, don’t trust ’em. If Joe would allow them, you darn right they’d try to plant info.
March 6th, 2017 at 9:58 am
I just hope all the Glennon naysayers come forward on Thur and eat their crow .My guess , he’s going to get around 10 mil a year with about 20 guaranteed from a team that is also drafting a QB . The cap is going up very fast !!
March 6th, 2017 at 10:02 am
Issic Haggins
The naysayers me included will not be impressed until he does something on Sunday…. Signing a deal means nothing what he does on Sundays is what matters and don’t worry Glennon will fail…
March 6th, 2017 at 10:02 am
Regardless of what the Joes think, the free market will set the price for Mike Glennon’s next contract. The numbers look obscene when you look at them alone, but they’re not out of line with the market.
According to spotrac.com, the three lowest paid (average per year) starting QBs past their rookie contracts are Andy Dalton at $16M, Alex Smith at $17M, and Matt Stafford at $17.6M for 2017. The three highest paid (average per year) backups are RG3 at $7.5M, Chase Daniels at $7M, and Chad Henne at $3.5M for 2017. Using those numbers as guidelines, Glennon is surely worth $15M as a starter and $7M as a backup.
Having a high quality backup QB can have a huge payoff if the starter gets hurt. Just look at the 2015 Cowboys, they went from contender to pretender with one injury. Winston takes a lot of risks and absorbs a lot of hits. He’s been able to manage so far, but those hits add up over a career and he’s not getting any younger.
The Buccaneers will have almost $70M in cap space going into 2017. They could splurge on a guy like Glennon with a huge first year salary that drops off dramatically when they need to pay the young stars. We all hope that Winston stays healthy and plays well, but it sure would be nice to continue to have a high quality backup on the roster.
Nobody likes to spend money on insurance premiums, but everybody is sure glad they did when disaster strikes. The Bucs have spent more money on worse players, it’s time to invest in Glennon instead of Johnson, Collins, Carter, Sweezy, and Verner.
March 6th, 2017 at 10:25 am
The haters will miss MG8 when he’s gone. No argument that it’s now Winston’s team, but how anyone could sleep easy at night knowing Ryan Griffin is the next man up should an injury befall Jameis is beyond me.
March 6th, 2017 at 10:36 am
Preach it Toes.
MGM4LIFE
March 6th, 2017 at 1:56 pm
Yes – you want a competent if not “good” back-up QB. But at what point does it negatively effect your ability to afford a player who can help your team win on a game by game down by down basis? That’s a serious question.
Glennon is considered a top tier back-up who knows the system and coaches and the team’s weapons and the starting QB well. Assuming this is true – he would give the team a reasonable chance of winning games if Jameis were to go down and be out for whatever length of time. There is a lot of comfort in all of that.
But what is that level of insurance worth?
Its like the cost difference in providing life insurance for a healthy, 27 year old non smoking female vs insurance for a 48 year old diabetic male who smokes and likes alcohol. The later is going to be more expensive.
Jameis is the 27 year old non smoking female. He’s 23 and healthy – hasn’t missed a snap in 32 games and has shown durability in taking numerous hits that seemed to have little effect on his “skrong” body.
Now if Tony Romo is your starting QB… Uh yea – he’s the 48 y.o. diabetic male smoking alcoholic needing life insurance. You better find and pay for the best back-up QB you can possibly get. Because its not if but WHEN he gets hurt during the coming season – so you better be prepared for it.
Bottom line? We don’t need to pay the high premium for a back-up QB now that Glennons price tag is skyrocketing. At $1M per range on his rookie contract – it was a good deal and smart to keep Glennon around the last 2 years. But $7-$8M for a back-up for Winston? No – that’s foolish. That $ can be put to WAY better uses. Like for a starting Center with real talent for instance – or a very good Safety. Ya- know – guys who play every down when their unit is on the field… in REAL games that matter….
Besides – it can’t be overlooked that Glennon when given his opportunities has NOT looked that good in the last 2 full pre-seasons. He has not shined in any of the 8 pre-season games I can remember from the last 2 years. Played ok in a couple of those games but he certainly hasn’t put anything on tape in the last 2 years that makes you say – wow – he’s really good – he should be a starting QB somewhere… The one series he played at the end of the regular season game this year where he completed 10 out of 11. Those were not down field throws by any means. Mostly checkdowns underneath vs a deep prevent defense – so while it looks good on the stat sheet – was not really something to be all that impressed about.
I hope MG gets a big deal somewhere and the opportunity to compete for a starting job. He does deserve that opportunity. And it gets us off the hook for grossly over paying him to sit on the bench all year. Hell we might even get a nice compensatory pick out of Glennon if we can keep our outside free agent signings to just 2 or 3 key players. (like Campbell, Jefferson and DJax).
March 6th, 2017 at 2:22 pm
No way. Glennon sucks. Show him the door and find a rookie for a backup. Glennon was another draft bust that didn’t work out.
March 6th, 2017 at 2:33 pm
“Jamies is the 27 year old non smoking female. He’s 23 and healthy – hasn’t missed a snap in 32 games and has shown durability in taking numerous hits that seemed to have little effect on his “skrong” body.”
Are you forgetting about that second Falcons game last year where he took a hard enough shot that Glennon had to come in and finish the game? I get your point, but eventually pretty much everyone who has any career longevity will get hurt playing professional football and will miss some time. I would have felt far more confident in Glennon securing a win than I do Griffin.
March 6th, 2017 at 2:49 pm
Toes – Glennon didn’t have to come in. Winston was not hurt. It was a coaches decision and a good one IMO as there was no chance of coming back at the end of that game. We were too far down with little time left. And I didn’t “forget” that series that Glennon played – in fact I referred to it above in saying 10 out of 11 for Glennon on that series sounds impressive but really wasn’t if you watched it. He did fine but that one “good” series vs the previous 8 pre-season games where he didn’t do much to get excited about should give pause for concern to anyone who thinks giving MG a big fat deal is a worthy investment.