No “Blindly Clinging”
March 22nd, 2017
National topic
It’s rare for kicker chatter to go national — slightly less rare than drafting a kicker in the second round of the NFL Draft.
In the case of Roberto Aguayo, for the second consecutive season, Aguayo has become a national story.
The Bucs adding former Jets star kicker Nick Folk to the roster Friday has set up a full-fledged kicking controversy — in March. This is new territory, and Mike Florio, the curator and creator of ProFootballTalk.com, is all over it.
Florio took to the NBC Sports Network airwaves to weigh in on the Bucs’ clear willingness to toss their 22-year-old kicker to the curb.
Florio likes the mindset from Bucs general manager Jason Licht and the fact he isn’t “blindly clinging” to his draft pick, like many GMs will.
Enjoy the video below.
March 22nd, 2017 at 6:21 am
To continue a conversation from a thread about kickers yesterday:
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 21st, 2017 at 9:50 pm
Joeypoppems Says
“Bonzai according to the last sentence of this article, he has no plans to retire, wants a long career. That doesn’t sound like a short term answer to me.”
Any player over 30 wonders how many years he has left, buddy. That;s when they realize their time is limited. Some last 5-6 years or more after that, but most only have 3-4 years left.
Take a look at the ages of all the players retiring this year. Average it out.
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Adam Vinatieri: 44 years old
Sebastian Janikowski: 39 years old
Matt Bryant: 42 years old
Phil Dawson: 42 years
All still kicking and producing. Bryant hit 91.9% of his kicks, Vinatieri hit 87.1% (same as Folk), Dawson hit 85.7%, Janikowski hit 82.9%. Josh Brown is 37 and was employed until the domestic violence incident.
Not crazy for kickers to play into their late 30s. Can’t lump them in with LBs and RBs because they don’t take the same physical damage.
March 22nd, 2017 at 7:42 am
If it were possible he would blindly cling to his miserable mistake AguaOh,no which is why I think he was forced into this by the owners or Koetter via the owners.
It was an embarrassment when he moved up to draft him and the humiliation grew for everyone, fans to players to ownership, throughout the season. AguaOh,no was absolutely dreadful and to say otherwise is peddling alternative facts, a reprehensible practice made commonplace these days.
March 22nd, 2017 at 7:50 am
Yes but the National media has the common sense take that’s its a competition not saying ok they got folk so get a draft pick for aguayo or just flat or saying he’s gone. It’s kind of hard for you to have credibility when you’re talking about trading a second round pick who had a bad season less than 3 days after adding competition
March 22nd, 2017 at 9:23 am
“If it were possible he would blindly cling to his miserable mistake AguaOh,no which is why I think he was forced into this by the owners or Koetter via the owners.”
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And you know this how? You are always speculating, yet you have absolutely zero proof that it is true. Do you know Licht? Do you know the Glazers? Have you even been to One Buc Place? Do you have any sources? No, you are just spewing nonsense to fit your ridiculous agenda. Yeah, we get it, you don’t like Licht. But what you apparently don’t understand is by just blindly making up stuff, you make yourself look ignorant, and you are actually pushing people the other way because they don’t want to be associated with your stupidity.
March 22nd, 2017 at 9:44 am
^^This
March 22nd, 2017 at 10:21 am
Agree HB. This is nothing but Licht showing strength. Pulls a really controversial move, but then refuses to compound the situation due to pride. What more could anyone want from a GM Look at our young nucleus of players: Winston, Evans, Marpet, Kwon, VHIII and Spence. Throw Brate, Humphries and Smith in their if you want. That’s a solid core of young players Most teams would be very envious of this situation.
March 22nd, 2017 at 10:40 am
Hawaiian- I never claimed to know this for certain which is why this was offered up as an opinion that I happen to hold based on my interpretation of Licht’s professional record. Do you require proof from everyone who holds favorable opinions of Licht? Of course not, because it is their opinion and you happen to agree with it. Everyone commenting here has an agenda based on their opinion of Licht and they are offering up their opinions in support of their agenda. The only difference here is your difference of opinion from mine and your deep and strange dislike of me for expressing it. However it never mattered before when I was sharing my manifestly unpopular opinions on incompetent Lovie Smith and it certainly doesn’t matter now.
For the record, again, I don’t dislike Licht at all and I give him credit for a number of the good decisions he has made but I refuse to peddle alternative facts about his record or look the other way like so many here are happy to do because it fits their Licht agenda.
Go Bucs
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:21 am
@DallasBuc,
I don’t think comprehension is your strong suit. If I read someone saying “Licht was the only one that wanted Jameis, and everyone else in One Buc didn’t”, I would say the exact same thing. That’s exactly what you are doing. You are saying it was the owners and coach. That’s completely ignorant, because you have zero proof it is true. It’s not even logical thinking based upon our owners past, and what everyone else behind the scenes has been saying about Licht. Everyone who has ever stepped foot in One Buc is saying that Licht has been given the keys to this team and is in control of everything. Even Koetter has said it. Unless you have evidence, your opinion is completely ignorant (using the definition of “ignorant”).
My dislike for what you say is the same as a few others on this site. You will go out of your way to be negative about a few people in this organization. You will use every opportunity to spew your ignorance, and it gets very tiring. If someone would post how much they love Licht on every single article, that would get old as well. If you aren’t smart enough to understand that, I can’t help you. But I have a strong hunch you completely understand exactly what you are doing, but you are trying to twist things to make yourself into some unbiased expert on the matter. We all know it, and I’m pretty sure you do as well. Trying to argue it just makes you look worse. I’m pretty sure most of us would respect you more if you would just admit it, but we all know that’s not going to happen.
March 22nd, 2017 at 12:08 pm
Since this is a story about America’s Kicker shouldn’t the title be…. “Blindly kicking”
March 22nd, 2017 at 12:49 pm
Either Sh.. or get off the pot. Its just that simple. Roberto has to decide. Do I want to make a mil a yr kicking a football or 50 grand a yr as a fast food mngr.
This yr he will definitely..Face The Music. Hey maybe he can get some tips from..Easy Money Sweezy on how to spin..an injury!
March 22nd, 2017 at 1:03 pm
Someone remind me why we got rid of Matt Bryant again?
March 22nd, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Joe I’d love to know what word in the last post triggered your filters? Surely it’s not my username / IP address being targeted, right? 🤔
March 22nd, 2017 at 1:50 pm
This streak of kicker stories is the longest streak Roberto has been a part of since joining the Bucs.
March 22nd, 2017 at 6:35 pm
The bucs havent tossed anyone to the curb. (Related to kickers). Joe is doing what he does with Martin, continues to assume and proclaim that Martin, and now Aguayo, are all but out the door.
While i know Joe has inside info and great sources. Joe has cited zero evidence to back up his claims, yet every single post regarding either player talks about kicking them to the curb. Is his what joe wants? Or is it what he thinks will happen, or does he have info that he is not allowed to discuss officially? Please clarify for me joe. Is this just speculation or do you have some meat to these claims?