No. 19 Pick… On Defense?
March 30th, 2017
Curveball?
When the Bucs offense is studied under a microscope, after sputtering terribly in the fourth quarter late last season and costing the team a playoff berth, it’s hard to digest the thought the Bucs would go defense at No. 19 in next month’s draft.
But that’s the dish prickly Pete Prisco of CBS Sports is serving.
In a largely glowing column about the Bucs, Prisco is of the mind Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht will use the No. 19 overall pick on defense, not offense.
The defense made big strides as well last season under coordinator Mike Smith. With the addition of free-agent defensive tackle Chris Baker, and likely using their first-round pick on that side of the ball, the Tampa Bay defense should improve on its ranking of 15th in points allowed.
As Joe stated, defense is not why the Bucs missed the playoffs. It was offense. There is still no depth at wide receiver. If DeSean Jackson goes down — and history suggests he will miss games — the Bucs are right back to the crapwagon they were in last year.
Running back is a glaring area of need.
The only way Joe can see Licht going defense at No. 19 is if Dalvin Cook is already off the board and none of the receivers available have been given first round grades by Licht and his staff (Rudy Humphries is Kate Upton in the eye of the Bucs, so they surely are not drafting a slot receiver at No. 19).
In this scenario, Joe could see the Bucs drafting an edge rusher on Day 1.
Oh, and Prisco also writes he hopes the Bucs are on “Hard Knocks” this summer because the team deserves such an honor and America needs to get to know Tampa Bay.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:06 am
Christian McCaffrey.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:07 am
Interesting take and a good article.
I’m happy to be in cruise control with this team in the off season now. While I’m excited and more pumped about the upcoming season than I have been in a while, I also don’t feel the need to sweat the moves that we’re making. We have adults in control of the operations now and real football people who I know have more of a grasp on what’s best for the team than I do, which has not been the case for a lot of years. I’m looking forward to being surprised on draft weekend and trust that the new Bucs that we have coming in will make the team better.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:12 am
McCaffrey is not an every down back! We need a game changer (ie Cook). If Cook is gone please go TE then follow it up with Mixon in 2nd round. Stop comparing McCaffrey to the top RBS coming out because he will not be used that way and we need a RB.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Still think Jason Licht will go with the best player available at #19 who fills a priority need for the Bucs (RB, WR, TE, C, DT/DE, Safety). There’s enough top talent in this draft that a potential starter at one of those positions will fall to us when we pick.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:17 am
Silly old Joe forgot Christian McCaffrey
March 30th, 2017 at 10:21 am
I hope the Bucs truly pick the best player available. Someone who has production and drive. Not into the potential of the Miami TE. I wouldn’t hate picking Jabrill Peppers with impact in the kicking game. Hoping for Christian McCafferey AND resigning a clean Doug Martin.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:23 am
4ever they seem to think 2000 yards in the pac 16 when he was being force fed the rock 30 times means he’s ready to handle the workload in the NFL. Yea right I can’t wait to see him in the league. Here’s what I’m interested in knowing did he ever face a top ten defense during his tenure at stanford???
March 30th, 2017 at 10:26 am
I remember Reggie Bush saying the biggest difference between college and the pros was DEs are fast enough to keep you from getting to the edge. RBs make they’re money between the tackles. We’ll soon see if he’s built Ford tough enough to get it done. Can’t wait.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:27 am
@Buc 4ever I 100% agree with you, grab Howard or Njoku and get Mixon in the 2nd and you got 2 1st round talents (excluding the off field stuff for Mixon)
March 30th, 2017 at 10:28 am
I see some mocks where leonard goes #4 to Jax, then Dalvin 8 to the panthers and OJ from 10 t0 12 and Ross around 15… If that happens then you are left to choose between a D lineman of the TE from Miami and I think you go D Line if thats how it plays out. McCaffery is interesting but then what do you do with simms and you have no everydown back.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:29 am
Dalvin
Cmac
Ross
Mwilliams
CDavis
Oj Howard
All would be much needed weapons. CMac would create major mismatches but we’d still need a bell cow. He’s a RB and a way more explosive version of Rudy Humphries motioned in the slot. Imagine LBers trying to cover brate and Christian with desean and Mike on the outsides. Good luck with that
March 30th, 2017 at 10:30 am
Defensive player at 19??? Hmm,update on that poll from the other day. Dalvin 1,010 votes and still counting.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:30 am
If Corey Davis, OJ Howard, and Dalvin Cook are all gone I hope we go best dline or secondary player available. Just no Jabrill Peppers.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:35 am
STOP. Again with this Defensive End nonsense!! If it’s a player on defense, it’ll be Obi wan. Period. Unless one of the top 2 CBs fall, and even THEN I don’t think they’d take a defender that wasnt a Safety. It’s going to be a skill position guy or Obi.
Mark it down. They aren’t drafting a DE in the first 4 rounds.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:41 am
@ Joe, I would have to disagree with your take that we missed the playoffs because of the offense….. Not the defense.
As I recall our defense got scorched against the Raiders, Falcons (at home), and the RAMS………..of all teams THE RAMS. If our defense stepped up in just 1 of those games, who knows how the season would have unfolded.
I think if we have the chance to put OBI in the defensive backfield it would drastically improve our defensive play against tight ends who the Bucs are known to get carved up by year in and year out. Exciting times to be a Bucs fan, we are right on the cusp of being a feared team for years to come!
March 30th, 2017 at 10:45 am
I like many are overwhelmed and confused over who the Buc’s will pick in the draft. I read article after article about Dalvin Cook and the Buc’s. Several analyst have him going to the Buc’s and that would be great with one minor exception. He is not going to be there at 19! Unless the Buc’s trade away their 2nd Rd pick or The Colts, Jags, and Panthers needs magically change it’s not going to happen. John Ross is another hot projection at 19 but all the speed in the world is useless when you are sitting on the bench with an injury. OJ Howard, Corey Davis, Leonard Fournette are off the board at 19. That leaves us players like Njoku and McCaffery If you prioritize a “Weapons for Jamies,” strategy. I Like them all but realize we can only have one. It is almost a no lose situation For the Buc’s. Enjoy the ride…….
March 30th, 2017 at 10:50 am
I’d be fine with it.
Ideally if none of the premier weapons or DEs are available I hope we trade back.
Even if we don’t trade back I’d be fine with us going Defense round 1 as long as we go offense in the next 2-3 rounds
R1-Taco Chalrton – DE
R2-Zay Jones/Chris Godwin/Curtis Samuel – WR
R3-Samaje Perine/Kareem Hunt/Marlon Mack – RB
R4-BPA TE that can in-line block and catch; or pass rusher or CB or S
March 30th, 2017 at 11:03 am
We don’t need defense in the first rd. We need RB, Wr, or TE, if Cook is gone get WR , if we get a WR in the 1st if Cook is gone get Mix on in 2nd.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:05 am
Lord C, looking at the safeties we’ve got under contract, I doubt that the Bucs can afford to wait until the 4th rnd to draft a safety. Depending on who’s already been drafted, I’d expect them to grab a safety in one of the Top 3 rnds. And maybe even in the first. If that’s the case, I hope it’s Obi … seriously doubt he’ll be there when we pick in the 2nd rnd.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:06 am
No way we draft a DE at 19 unless Myles Garret drops. RB,S,TE will be 1st Rd targets. WR, CB, DL later. RB and CB have value all through the Draft. Wouldn’t be surprised if we grab a a young LB than can play both MLB and WLB.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:07 am
If they miss on the RB or a top WR…the bucs then need to go OL and a guy that can go in day one and start at LT or RT and help protect jameis, go defense 2nd round
March 30th, 2017 at 11:13 am
Didn’t one of the Joes agree that receiver is a higher first round priority than RB? Stop all of this nonsense that RB is “a glaring area of need” – we can wait until the 3rd or 4th round.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:16 am
I have suspected all off-season so far the Bucs will take a safety at #19 overall. I don’t see a greater position of need on the Bucs right now. RB is a position of “question” right now…and likely need, but still not as much as Safety. With Ayers, Spence, and Ghoulston, and I believe Smith is coming back, I think we’re okay there for now. but during the draft, you always want to be able to take the BEST guy on the board…so I’m still planning on S, WR, RB, OL in that order. Two out of three picks for offense isn’t exactly ignoring the offense.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:23 am
Coaches were at the University of Florida’s pro day scouting Kayla Brantley and Bryan Cox Jr. Brantley won’t be there in the second round so it makes one Wonder
March 30th, 2017 at 11:24 am
Bucs were one win in December from the playoffs. Offense shat the bed in fourth quarter against Dallas and against New Orleans, both one-score, winnable games. Why was that? Because other than Mike Evans, the Bucs were playing with has-beens and never-beens at receiver and running back.
Not sure why it’s that difficult to figure out. Defense turned the corner.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:31 am
Haasan Reddick
Obi Melifonwu
I want one or the other.
Pass rushers and Safeties are going to fly off the board in this draft. Recievers and Running Backs are going to slide. If they go offensive skill player in the 1st round they will be left scrambling in the middle rounds to find good defensive players. It’s a horrible draft for offensive linemen so learn to like what we have there right now.
I’m not sure what about anything that they’ve said makes anybody think that they see RB as some massive need, at least not massive enough to blow a 1st round pick on one. Reciever falls into that same boat.
Pass rush and take aways are still the biggest need on this team, especially after the Desean Jackson signing. Do they still need more recievers? Yes. Do they need one bad enough to use a high pick on one? No.
This team has one legit edge rusher that is still a work in progress going into his second year. After him there is Ayers, who is a journeyman DE for a reason, Gholston who is a early down left end, Jack Smith who can’t stay on the field, and….nobody else. It’s a glaring hole that nobody seems to want to acknowledge.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:35 am
Cook will be there because RB’s area dime a dozen. he’s soo fragile. Cadillac Williams all over again.
March 30th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
No need to get defensive joe(s). I think it is pretty clear the defense cost us more games than the offense did. We will not draft a WR in the first to sit the bench behind Evans, Jackson, and Humphries. As much as I would love for Cook to fall to us, I highly doubt it will happen. Obi would be an immediate impact player on this team.
Either way it is a team effort, both the offense and defense cost this team a playoff birth. Good thing is they have take steps to build on both sides of the ball.
March 30th, 2017 at 12:14 pm
IMO defense played over it’s head. While that was great to see, even with good coaching staying in place, I am not sure if it is sustainable. Also, with McDougald walking there is a huge need at safety. McDougald was signed in Seattle as a back up which is what he is, but he would have started in Tampa. Now we don’t even have him. As much as I want a RB, I think safety is probably our biggest area of need. It wouldn’t be an exciting pick, but if there is a good one still available it would probably be the smart move.
March 30th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Defense at #19 makes the most sense to me
March 30th, 2017 at 12:33 pm
I see it said a ton on this site posted that Christian McCaffrey is not an every down back. Which down does he not play?
March 30th, 2017 at 12:36 pm
I absolutely don’t want the Te from Miami. All reports out of their pro day were he flashed talent but effort is a question mark. No gracias
Cook and fournette over cmac. Wouldn’t mind pairing cook w AD. We can eat the fact our first rd pick is part time for a year.
March 30th, 2017 at 12:43 pm
#19 pick( obi Melifonwu or Budda baker) would make my dreams come true to get both of them in the first two rounds. Obi at safety and Budda at nickel. Get it! Go Bucs!
March 30th, 2017 at 12:47 pm
Sign Peterson, RB by committee.
Cam Robinson Round 1
Budda Baker Round 2
March 30th, 2017 at 12:47 pm
I personally would like one of the following: Dalvin, McCaff, OJ, Ross, or C Davis. Looking at the different mocks, one of them should be available, and all could help and be a #WeaponForJameis. If you add Peppers in to that list, chances would increase we would get one of them. Peppers or McCaff could help fill holes at PR and KR as well.
I just don’t see any other defensive player being worthy of 19 and available. If by some freak of nature all 6 are gone by 19, trade down.
March 30th, 2017 at 12:52 pm
Stop with the Dalvin Cook nonsense, please! He is not going to be an elite RB in the NFL…he just isn’t. He isn’t fast enough, quick enough, big enough, powerful enough to be anything more than what he is… A Ryan Mathews 2.0…. a good RB but nothing outstanding. We need some outstanding talent on the roster…whether be at TE or S, we need boosts in those areas…. we can draft a RB that is good but not outstanding in rounds 2-4. This reminds me of all the clueless fans that wanted us to waste our pick on Trent Richardson…and instead we wasted it on Mark Barron. Who did I want that year? Luke Keuchly. if OJ Howard or Njoku are there, they should be the pick. Otherwise, trade down, grab Baker to play safety and net some valuable picks and take Curtis Samuels or Chris Godwin in round 2 and a stud project at TE in round 3 like Bucky Hodges. We need talent, not slight upgrades at positions where we can find talent in any round of the draft.
March 30th, 2017 at 1:29 pm
DE or safety in round one would not be surprising or disturbing.
March 30th, 2017 at 1:32 pm
The more I look at this draft, the more I want us to acquire picks. This draft is loaded with prospects projected to be day 1 starters available into the 4th round. This is not a depth draft. This is a draft to fix your roster for 3-4 seasons. Defense in round one is possible, but if they go that route, I hope they drop and acquire picks. day 2 is loaded with RB, WR, S, TE and CB.
March 30th, 2017 at 1:34 pm
Here i go again defending McCaffrey as a good pick at 19. Come on not a every down back, didn’t he average 30 touches a game for 2015 and 2016 seasons? That’s durable in my book. Another plus if you draft him it’s like drafting 2 players with his great receiving skill and running ability. Not to mention his punt and kick off return ability. If we pass on him a team like the Saints will pick him and he will kill us every year. Lets pick a exciting player for a change, our fans deserve it.
March 30th, 2017 at 3:05 pm
Nobody is bringing up the possibility that Mike Smith was promised some “help” in the form of high draft picks on defense this year and maybe next as a condition of his agreeing to stay with the Bucs for at least the next 2 years. Not saying that’s the case, but it is possible.
If we ARE going Defense in round one – hopefully its is either for DE Barnett if he is available at 19 or a trade back occurs so we can get an extra 3rd round pick and then select Budda Baker at the end of the 1st or top of the 2nd round.
How’s this look:
1st – trade back and then draft S – Budda Baker
2nd – WR Zay Jones
3rd – TE Evan Engram
3rd – RB Kareem Hunt
Now THAT would be attacking the strengths of this draft and getting great value with every pick!
March 30th, 2017 at 3:33 pm
Nice comment Pick. I never thought of the non-monetary promises they might have had to make to Mike Smith in order to get him to stay. Now I’m almost sure we go defense in the first round
March 30th, 2017 at 3:57 pm
Love the idea of trading back pick. But there’s no possible way Engram is still around to be had in the 3rd.
March 30th, 2017 at 4:08 pm
Our Defense turned the corner the 2nd half of the season. We need to get out of the gate fast on Defense next season. I say if one of the top 4 DE’s are still there at 19, we should take him.But they won’t be. And Cook might not be either. So either take Best player available or trade down if possible.
March 30th, 2017 at 4:13 pm
What I want to know is, what is the obsession around here with taco charlton? The guy is nothing special and he isn’t nearly as explosive as Charles Harris. If we had to take a Defensive player I think the value lies in this amazing cb class or Charles Harris. That is assuming Cook, OJ, Davis or one of these top 2 safeties. I also LOVE the idea of moving back to take Budda Baker. I like Hunt on the surface, but we have to remember he has ALOT of miles on his legs. Like 800 carries for 5000 yards and like 600 receiving yards. Idk just a thought
March 30th, 2017 at 4:14 pm
lol…this is why I say we should/will select jarred davis at #19…maybe even trade down a few spots and collect a extra pick….not because im against cook…but its because I believe he would be the BPA still on the board….we just signed smitty to an extension…we have to let him be the chief….if you want smitty to cook up a nasty defense, you got to let him shop for the groceries….GO BUCS!!!!
March 30th, 2017 at 4:17 pm
Dude if you’re gonna lobby for a gator, at least make it a pick thay makes sense. Like Caleb Brantly in round 2.
March 30th, 2017 at 4:33 pm
Yeah, I don’t get this lber lover mob either
March 30th, 2017 at 4:46 pm
Dalvin Cook is another Doug Martin, maybe slightly better at catching but why is everyone so thirsty for Cook. At 19th lets go DE or saftey.
March 30th, 2017 at 4:48 pm
if you know football, then it makes sense….obviously you don’t know football…Brantley is first round all day….just wait and see…..VERSATILITY IS KEY….GO BUCS!!!!
March 30th, 2017 at 4:50 pm
813 you dont know a damn thing. You just spout off nonsense until proven dead wronf then disapear for the day.
March 30th, 2017 at 5:04 pm
I think they will draft a cornerback
March 30th, 2017 at 5:10 pm
that’s a lie…im on here day and night….you haven’t proven me wrong yet….GO BUCS!!!!
March 30th, 2017 at 5:22 pm
You still haven’t named me the 3rd great LB for Atl and Ne…
March 30th, 2017 at 5:43 pm
If Brantley is a “1st rounder all day” then I would take him over Jarrad Davis. However, we don’t need a starting DT, just like LB. We need depth at those positions, You don’t take depth in the 1st round.
March 30th, 2017 at 5:45 pm
I would say bang the table for one of the UF CBs if you are rooting for a UF player to get drafted, but I don’t think Quincy Wilson or Teez Tabor will be a 1st round pick
March 30th, 2017 at 6:44 pm
Brantley will not be available for our second round pick.. I seen him going as high as I believe pick number 6 overall but I doubt that. I do believe overall that he will go in the first round if he doesn’t he certainly won’t be there when we pick. That said I truly believe Jerrod Davis will be a game changer in the NFL. Brantley on the other hand I believe is a 10 to 12 year solid starter not a game changer
March 30th, 2017 at 6:52 pm
I can respect that SB. But we have 2 gamechangers at linebacker already.
March 30th, 2017 at 7:05 pm
Exactly that is why you have never seen me lead a rally cry for Davis. It’s not a big enough position of need to go first round or second round in my opinion
March 30th, 2017 at 7:08 pm
I would love Brantley in the first round but I think he can be had at between 25 and 30. But I don’t go all home eristic Brantley is no longer a gator. If he becomes a book I’ll totally supporting again if not then good luck to him
March 30th, 2017 at 7:11 pm
*Buc*
March 30th, 2017 at 7:12 pm
@813
Alright, you bated me in with your nonsense. What in the hell would the Bucs be thinking in drafting a MLB that was allowed to freelance because the secondary behind him could hold down the fort?
You pushing this pick just makes you look asinine and not knowledgeable at all, and then calling others out for not understanding your nonsensical reasoning makes it even worse.
What’s your plan for Kwon? Throw him on the trash heap?
Time to come back to reality. It’s awfully ironic that you didn’t start pushing this pick until that moron Bucky Brooks put out another one of his worthless mock drafts with the Bucs mind numbingly picking Davis.
Do Florida residents know that college football was played outside of that state this year? Some of you take your homerism to a ridiculous level.
March 30th, 2017 at 8:01 pm
This draft has some incredible pass rushers at DE
Not sure why anyone would think we dont need one. Our DTs are good, but we are lacking at DE
1) Robert Ayers- absolute warrior. But a 32 year old warrior
2) Noah Spence-Pass rushing specialist. 6’2″, 250#. More Lb than DE.
3) Jac Smith- talented. But always hurt. Was stupid to put him on special
teams.
This would work
1. DE Taco Charlton. Pass rusher!!
2. WR Zay Jones. Another great weapon.
3. RB Marlon Mack. Replaces The undependable Doug Martin
4. TE Adam Shaheen. To team with Cameron Brate
5. S Fish Smithson. Free safety with skills to start.
6. C Isaac Asiata. Coach Warhop will make him a starter
7. CB Dez Lawrence. Has an honest shot to make the team
8. Free agent- LB Hardy Nickerson ll, strong side L4) Will Gholsten- no pass rush skills
Taco Charlton
6’6″, 278#. Has great burst.
Line him and Ayers up at DE. Mccoy and Bryant at DT.
Spence at Lber.
THEN we would have a pass rush, IMO
March 30th, 2017 at 8:13 pm
If Barnett or Solomon are still there at #19 when we pick, and we pass, Im gonna be sick. Well unless its C. Davis or Obi, but still….oh man the edges would be set for years to come! Mr. Hayes would be happy. But Im sure both will be gone by the time we pick.
March 30th, 2017 at 8:35 pm
“Line up McCoy and Baker . . ”
Damn auto correct
March 30th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
It’s looking more and more like Solomon Thomas will be a top 10 pick. Unless someone falls to us that shouldn’t, I think our best bet is trading down and taking Budda Baker or Charles Harris. Cb is deep and so is wr, we can get a guy like Quincy Wilson or teez tabor in the 2nd. Maybe D. Forman could fall to us in the 2nd. The guy is huge (235-240) and still ran a 4.4!
March 30th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Homerism? I’m still waiting for a special player out of USF to be a star for the Bucs. I’ll keep waiting.
March 30th, 2017 at 8:51 pm
i would love to come away with Budda Baker if we trade down a few spots. Honestly the more I think about how deep this draft is, I think the on of the best things we could to would be to just trade out of the first and stockpile picks.
March 30th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
@Capt.Tim
I can live with Charlton. I think he’ll take a year or two to fully develop, but he’s a serious prospect with room to grow his pass rush game. He’s such a physical freak that he really hasn’t had to learn much technique up to this point, that will take a year or two to develop, but once it does, look out.
I don’t think he’ll make it to 19 though. I could see the Saints jumping all over him.
March 30th, 2017 at 8:55 pm
@ Blake
What’s nice about Baker and Melifonwu is they can play nickel corner too and cover the slot.
March 30th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
For sure gotbbucs. I would also say that Obi has the higher ceiling, and has the potential to become a matchup Corner/ Safety that could cover larger recievers and big play tight ends. But I think that Budda is probably the better football player currently and has better instincts.
March 30th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
“Taco Charlton
6’6″, 278#. Has great burst.
Line him and Ayers up at DE. Mccoy and Bryant at DT.
Spence at Lber.
THEN we would have a pass rush, IMO”
I’ve watched Taco Charlton more than enough times to be able to say that one thing he absolutely does not have is great burst lol. Doesn’t have it yet anyway. Most of the time he is clearly the last guy out of his stance. If he can fix that tho then he can be a dangerous pass rusher
March 30th, 2017 at 9:26 pm
@Joey, I’ve noticed the same thing. And it’s the biggest concern I have with Taco. Because you have to consider that it’s nothing to do with his athleticism. It could potentially just be a result of poor reaction time/ reflexes.
And I’m not nearly well versed enough the studies of the brain to comment on whether a persons reflexes can be improved through training or not.
Taco is a physical freak though. No doubt about that.
March 30th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
@joey @blake
That’s why I’m saying Charles Harris. The man has AMAZING get off and production.
March 30th, 2017 at 9:55 pm
@blake
I disagree with you about Obi. I think the guy has BUST written all over him. If a guy is not talked about because of his tape he prolly isn’t that good. This guy gets all this shine because he is a freak athlete. I may be wrong, but something about him just don’t smell right. Just my opinion tho
March 30th, 2017 at 10:30 pm
Charles Harris- 6’3″, 235#
Lb?, big safety?
Awful small for a DE.
We already have Kwon and Lavonte at LB.
Our SLB is on the field less than 50% of the time.
Thats who we pull, to go to a nickle defense.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:32 pm
I think they go with an athletic TE…provides depth at the position and another weapon in the passing game. Brate goes down, which has been a guy Winston likes to use as a security blanket, the offense changes a bit. If you have two weapons at TE, even if Evans or Jackson go down, you still can create havoc with two pass catching TEs and one quality receiver.
If we can avoid our injury bug curse for 1st Rd picks, we should get a very productive player. There’s some really nice depth across the board at RB, WR, DB, TE, Safety….somebody really good is going to be sitting there that nobody expected
March 30th, 2017 at 10:39 pm
Charles Harris is 265 dude. Don’t where you got that info Tim, but check ya facts.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Don’t think its fair to say he’ll bust, if a coach can get that guy tuned in, with that physical skill set, he could be one heck of a player. He’s a bigger Byron Jones type prospect in my eyes. Another dude who wasn’t talked about until he exploded at the combine.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:43 pm
Tim
Charles Harris is definitely a de. Maybe a 34 olb but he is a pass rusher. I obviously know we don’t need a Sam lber. But the guy u are lobbying for is a reach when Harris is still on the board. And he is 250 not 235. And who cares if he can’t anchor against the run, it’s ALOT harder to find a pass rusher than a run stuffer. Biggest key to success in this league is Protect your QB and Get their QB. No thanks on Fish taco.
March 30th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
@ Blake
Maybe he won’t bust. I just hope some other team finds that out for us. I just smell something funny about him.
March 30th, 2017 at 11:23 pm
@Mike Evans GOAT
I can respect that. After all it’s the same way I feel about Cook & Ross.
March 31st, 2017 at 12:49 am
Charles Harris is an American football defensive end. He played college football at Missouri. Wikipedia
Weight: 236 lbs
Height: 6′ 3″
Got it from Google. Same on wikipedia
March 31st, 2017 at 1:18 am
Based on Koetter’s end of season thoughts on the need for explosive players, why can’t that extend to a defensive player like Jabril Peppers? If Cook,Howard,Corey Davis & possibly McCaffrey are gone, I would seriously consider Peppers. He doesn’t have to be rushed into a starting safety spot unless totally impressive during trading camp & preseason. While learning on the job he can be our KR/PR to provide another aspect of explosive plays. I would then look at WR JuJu Smith-Schuster in the 2nd rd & RB in 3rd or 4th. Joe do the bucs like Peppers?
March 31st, 2017 at 2:10 am
And we have Noah Spence
6’2″, 250#. Looks like a great pass rushing prospect.
But will have trouble anchoring against the run.
How many 250# pound DEs can we carry on the roster
March 31st, 2017 at 2:20 am
I like Peppers- as a slot reciever or a WLB. Like Mark Barron
This, per “NFL Draft- The official draft site”
Jabrill Peppers. 5’11”, 213#
“Scouts question his instincts and lack of ball production. Has just one interception and 10 passes defensed at Michigan. Slow to recognize construct of play and can be found playing through a straw at times. Needs better recognition and anticipation to become an improvising play-maker. Doesn’t always trust his feet in coverage and will maul at the top of the route. Just a guy when asked to play deep safety. Slow to read and range until ball is in the air. Can be overzealous against play-action and drawn below his deep ball responsibilities. Too small for take-on duties at linebacker. Leads into tackles with ducked head. Opts to hit rather than wrap-up.”
A great Athlete. But we dont need a LB. we have great ones.
And Peppers aint a safety
March 31st, 2017 at 6:01 am
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/charles-harris?id=2558001
Capt tim. Harris actually weighs 253.
This is why we don’t trust wikipedia.
April 1st, 2017 at 5:00 am
The key to the defenses success was the addition of Grimes and Hargreaves. If they do not re-sign Alterraun Verner then who will play nickle? Jude? The ability for the secondary to cover is key. JJ Wilcox will replace Bradley McDougald and Conte/Tandy will play the other Safety position. IMO our greatest need for the defense is at CB. CB Gareon Conley, Ohio State, is one of the few really good CB’s available. I say give Verner a contract and worry about a CB next year. Christian McCaffrey is the pick at 19. He is an every down back. TE Bucky Hodges in 2nd and WR Chris Goodwin in 3rd.