Why The Josh Gordon Chatter?
March 13th, 2017
More talk of Josh Gordon and the Bucs.
Joe hopes it was because folks were giddy over Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Light signing Flash Jackson or that Stick Carriers were imbibing on quality Anheuser-Busch products.
But Joe received an inordinate amount of “Bucs-should-sign-Josh-Gordon” Twitters the past few days.
What’s the matter with people?
First, Gordon is not a free agent. People seem to think this because he is walking the streets. But the reason he is walking the streets is because he is a walking positive whiz quiz. This cat cannot stay clean. Whether it is PEDs or weed or something else, he just cannot put the stuff down. Not even a lucrative NFL career can motivate Gordon to not be a fool.
The dude has been suspended four times in the past four years. Last year, the NFL felt sorry for him and partially reinstated him so he could participate in Browns training camp where — you could see this coming down Dale Mabry Highway — Gordon got popped. Yet again!
Gordon has played in five of the last 48 Browns games due to a suspension of some sort. He hasn’t played since 2014, yet there are Bucs fans thinking this guy would be an asset. Why exactly? He’s got such a substance abuse problem, he wouldn’t be eligible to play for Chris Rock and Adam Sandler’s prison team!
Gordon is again trying to get reinstated by the NFL, and this time the NFL doesn’t seem to be in a mood to get conned by this druggie again.
And no, the Bucs are not going to trade for his rights.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:02 am
I dont understand it either…
March 13th, 2017 at 8:14 am
No thanks! Gordon is not worth the headaches! Needs to get his head straight before even thinking about football.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:16 am
dont need the headache that comes with him…i feel sorry for him, but, why adopt this problem. If he refuses to help himself, who needs him
March 13th, 2017 at 8:17 am
The “or something else” is what concerns me most about Josh Gordon. Whatever that “something else” is it’s obviously more important to him than football so let Josh Gordon stay where he’s at.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:18 am
Exactly! No thanks. Move on. There is nothing else to see here.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:18 am
I’ll play your game! IF he was a FA and was signed to a 1 year vets minimum he would represent the low risk, high reward proposition every GM searches for. The man has a load of talent that is rolled up in a zig zag paper.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:20 am
I do not get the panic about our WR’s. We are no longer desperate. We can use some more depth but that can be had in the draft and doesn’t even need to be a big name first round splash.
Assuming that the Bucs draft a versatile RB like Dalvin or McCaffery #3 will have plenty of targets this year. ME13…DJAX…the TE who led the league in TD catches..one more year improved in skill and size…Hump and either Dalvin or McCaffery out of the backfield.
Again we need some depth and plans for the future after DJAX ages out…but we are no longer in panic mode.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:25 am
djax will be enough trouble….locker room is being altered with new faces and shipping out Shepard, Spence and possibly McDougald…replaced with djax, baker and wilcox > old, old and backup…free agency bonanza my arse!
March 13th, 2017 at 8:25 am
I think Josh Gordon just failed another drug test.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:25 am
Y’all are all stupid. If Gordon is available, I want him. The risk is nothing, the reward is everything. What do you have to lose. I personally couldn’t careless what someone does off the field. If he eligible to play, I want him. Give me all the criminals, druggies and what not. I bet I’ll have the most talented team in the league. What they do in their personal time is none of my business.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:28 am
Quick Snapshot
Drug:
• A drug is any substance (other than food that provides nutritional support) that, when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin, or dissolved under the tongue, causes a physiological change in the body.
Annual Causes of Death – by Controlled Substance
• Alcoholic Liver Disease [subset of Chronic Liver Disease] – 19,388
• Alcohol-Induced Deaths – 30,722
Cannabis (Marijuana): 0
Yet Cannabis is still a Schedule I drug?
How many current former – HS, College, NFL – Players, Coaches, and Admin. Catch DUI’s, Batteries, Domestic Abuse, and other Felonies – Due to Alcohol?
Yet Weed’s the Devil? Lol kills Me – Murica
NFL needs to change its Archaic, backwards thinking
March 13th, 2017 at 8:36 am
Amen LUV!
Some folks around here can’t get Doug Martin out the door fast enough but clamor for a guy suspended 4 times already! SMH!
March 13th, 2017 at 8:36 am
The risk is bringing his drug habits into the locker room out weighs his talents to me. I could tolerate if he slapped a cab driver or something but it’s risky to depend on a drug addict. If he hasn’t gotten it after being suspended on 3 separate occasions he probably never will. And why does everybody assume he’s addicted to weed and not something more serious?
March 13th, 2017 at 8:37 am
I thought Gordon voluntarily went to rehab last year and was not popped.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:37 am
I wouldn’t bash Gordon for blazing it up every once in a while, but until they do change the rules Luv then he is at risk for yet another suspension which we dont need even if he was playing for us for free.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:40 am
He did train with Mike Evans in the off season.
Bucs still need more depth at WR.
The last couple of years the Bucs offense would fall apart with an injury or without a legit #2 wr.
Also I think the loss of Shep hurts more than we think. Shep would make the tough catches on some of those errant JW throws. Not sure we can expect Jackson to get smacked in the middle of the field.
Need another guy capable of fighting for the football.
If Dalvin Cook and OJ Howard are there at 19, who do you take?
Howard and Brate could do a lot of damage..
March 13th, 2017 at 8:41 am
Better think again. I was Fire Rescue for 30 years and many traffic accidents were caused by drivers high on pot that killed and injured people. Just like alcohol. So don’t feed me any crap it is not abused or dangerous. Fools use it and drive!!
March 13th, 2017 at 8:43 am
Foles to Eagles. The backup search continues.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:44 am
Bucsfanman
The reasons why I would dump Doug
Dependability – because of his Injury history.
Also lack of consistent production.
Outside that – sound like the kid needs counseling/ a good woman.
Most of katz – that I’ve seen addicted to X – are not comfortable in their on skin.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:45 am
Most of the katz
March 13th, 2017 at 8:46 am
OJ Howard will be long gone by #19
March 13th, 2017 at 8:49 am
If Gordon gets suspended he doesn’t get paid anyways, so what’s the big deal, on the other hand, if, that’s a big if mind you, Gordon stays clean, Evans, DJax, and Gordon would undeniably represent the best WR corps in the league, this offense would be unstoppable. I’m talking multiple Super Bowls. Who wants to go on record saying that isn’t worth the headache?
March 13th, 2017 at 8:49 am
Could be the next Chris Carter…..or not. I dont think anyone trades anything for him which means if he’s cut, the Patriots will sign him and he’ll put up All Pro stats for the last years of Brady’s career.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:54 am
@LUV-I wasn’t referring to you specifically regarding Doug but I agree with regards to dependability. Although, you could make the same argument for Josh, considering games missed due to suspension.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:55 am
The Bucs practiced with the guy in preseason last year, and he ate up our secondary in the preseason game, getting him on the cheap via trade, like a conditional 4th, turns into a 7th if he gets suspended again, or signing him should he get released on a incentive laden short term contract, I’d take that over any 4th round rookie all day everyday, it’s low risk high reward.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:55 am
@Guzzie
I will go on record saying Josh Gordon is not worth it. The money isn’t the problem. If he gets suspended again, which is possible, he won’t play. So if there is a chance he won’t play then what’s the point? For it to look good on paper? And to make an off the field point, Jason Licht will be in a contract year next season. How would it look to the Glazer’s if he trusted a guy suspended what? 4 times now, to be a contributor to the team. That is a tough thing to explain.
March 13th, 2017 at 8:56 am
Bucsfanman
Didn’t take it that way brotha
Just stating my position on the matter – that’s all
Great point about Josh – on the suspension side
But when he’s played he’s productive/consistent
March 13th, 2017 at 9:03 am
Man that must be some amazing hemp smoke yo.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:05 am
We went through the constant suspensions due to failed drug tests from Denard Jackson. Nothing more frustrating than having a good player that is never on the field. Don’t understand why Bucs fans would want to put themselves through that drama or they have very short memories.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:06 am
A “CLEAN” Josh Gordon is worth the convo!!! Hope he can get it together a great talent.Who knows maybe there’s a bit more to the Evans workout?? Probably not but then again…..lol
March 13th, 2017 at 9:06 am
I agree with Stpetebucsfan.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:06 am
*I meant Tanard Jackson.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:08 am
I think he has a lot of talent but he had chance after chance to get right and he failed. To me it was all about him and not the team. We don’t need him, go into the draft and get a WR in the 3rd rd. it’s loaded.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:10 am
LUVMYBUCS Says
“The reasons why I would dump Doug
Dependability – because of his Injury history.
Also lack of consistent production.”
The Bucs have until after Game 3 to decide. Here’s what I suggest:
Sign Eddie Lacy to a two year deal. Have the off season and first 4 games to see if he is healed up. If not, cut him and keep Martin a year. If so, cut Martin and we have ourselves a 1,000 yard rusher at full health.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:15 am
I agree cut Martin now but don’t sign Lacy, we need to draft Cook and we have Rogers and Sims backing him.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:31 am
Joeypoppens..I understand what you’re saying, but you wouldn’t trade a little uncertainty, negative headlines for the payoff of a Super Bowl or 2, at the worst a yearly contender, this is a Patriots type move, it’s not like we rely on him, he’s not our WR1 like he was in Cleveland, he’s arguably better than Evans, more explosive especially, and he’s gonna be cheap. As far as Licht is concerned, he’s pretty much a made man in Tampa, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon, he has the clout to make this type of signing, even after that stupid kicker last year. Now signing Gordon to a 5 year $60 million contract or trading a top round pick is a big no, that kind of move would definitely put Licht o the hot seat, Licht would need to get tested for drugs lol
March 13th, 2017 at 9:43 am
Hell to the no.
March 13th, 2017 at 9:47 am
If I had a choice on Evans and Gordon I would rather choose Evans he is a team player he has put up over 1,000 each season. That is want you want, Gordon is good but he is not a team player. Licht did right by getting D. Jackson, now we have one of the best WR core’s in the NFL, all we need is one more speed WR from the draft and Cook in the first rd.
March 13th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Everyone would take Evans over Gordon, that’s a no brainer, but Gordon is more explosive than Evans, but that’s not taking anything away from Evans, he’s a top 5 receiver but he’s not going to get 60 yard TDs, Gordon has other world type ability, Moss like ability, he can take hitch and turn it into 6 from 80 yards out, put that ability next to Evans, I can’t think of WR duo that can match that today, only Carter n Moss, maybe in their prime Rice n John Taylor
March 13th, 2017 at 10:29 am
I don’t get the Gordon love either. I also don’t get why anyone would want to drive those tiny cars that look like mobile toasters.
March 13th, 2017 at 10:50 am
For Gordon, ability is not the issue. The issue is trust. Can you trust that once he is signed and it’s halfway through the season when no decent FAs are available, that he will be on the straight and narrow? Keep in mind, 4 suspensions. That’s 3 times that he’s been trusted to fly right.
Ability- CHECK!
Availability- UM, well! Maybe?
March 13th, 2017 at 10:52 am
He did destroy our secondary in that preseason game. If he’s released why not sign him to a real cheap none guarantee deal ? The worse that happens he gets in trouble again, and you cut him no problem. If he doesn’t it’s a win, win for Winston.
March 13th, 2017 at 11:32 am
A walking positive whiz quiz. Lol. Good one Joe. N yes people are pretty ignorant on things they speak of. We dont need gordon anyway. More weapons are coming via the draft baby!! Cant wait for this one. Finally back to exciting times being a buc fan. Go bucs
March 13th, 2017 at 12:47 pm
if he was available and he would take a high incentive base contract…. I would be all about it. And lets be real… these modern day gladiators who may die at an early age from hits to the head shouldn’t be suspended for smoking marijuana.
March 13th, 2017 at 12:56 pm
It’s not happening. This is fake news. Josh Gordon has not been reinstated, and even when he is, he’s still owned by Cleveland. In other words, he’s not available. Get over it. End of discussion.
March 13th, 2017 at 1:09 pm
I think Mike Evans has more explosion than people think. Its hard to show it when he has all the defensive attention he has had so far. Desean Jackson will help him show that.
March 13th, 2017 at 1:26 pm
Thank you DBS. There is such a thing as a “DUI” which includes numerous mind altering substances. I did it a couple of times in college and I had the concentration of a gnat. There is no way I want to be on the road with someone who is stoned out of their mind.
March 13th, 2017 at 1:33 pm
Gordan had severe depression issues that lead to most of his stuff. Talent wise he was a top 5 wr. If he passes a drug test we should sign him. The Browns have made it clear they are moving on if he gets reinstated . Give him a cheap incentive based deal and if it doesn’t work then oh well. If it works we get a stud who would pair perfectly with Evans and DJax. We would be crazy to not at least kick the tires.
March 13th, 2017 at 2:20 pm
If you get Gordon for nothing on a cheap non-guaranteed contract then why wouldn’t you. He embarsssed Grimes last preseason – the guy clearly still has some skills. But the Bucs don’t make this move so it doesn’t matter.
March 13th, 2017 at 3:41 pm
No thanks
March 13th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
Remember that Josh failed two tests because he had trace amounts in his system validating his claim that it was due to second-handed smoke. Under the today’s standards he would have passed those tests. While suspended he was stopped for a dui. Alcohol was now added to his nono list, at least during the football season. After the final game some of the team flew to Las Vegas, on the plane they had alcohol. After the plane landed Josh tested positive for alcohol. That was how he found that the last game was not the end of the season and he was once again suspended. Last year he checked himself
March 13th, 2017 at 9:26 pm
into a rehab and should now be fine. So do not pick Josh Gordon for the Bucs. Let the Eagles get him.
Go Eagles.
March 13th, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Will he even be reinstated? All arguments are moot until he is and released by the Browns.