Aguayo Now On The Trade Block?
March 18th, 2017
The Bucs signed the most accurate kicker in Jets franchise history last night, Nick Folk.
It was a move Joe first barked about four weeks ago when the Jets dumped him after a standout 10-year career.
Hell, Joe ranted about Folk on WDAE-AM 620 last Wednesday evening and again on the Ira Kaufman Podcast.
Bravo for Jason Licht placing more importance on winning and improving than on where and when Roberto Aguayo was drafted. Bravo!
Now does anyone believe Folk, 32, inked a deal with the Bucs to be a part of phony competition with Aguayo?
Of course not. And then you have to wonder whether Folk was told the kicking job is his job to lose.
Remember, Folk drilled 87 percent of his kicks in 2016, including 5-of-7 from 40-plus yards. Aguayo made 71 percent and was 4-of-11 from 40-plus. They both missed two extra points. Aguayo was the worst full-time kicker in the NFL last year.
Folk is the better kicker — with playoff experience.
So Joe has to believe the Bucs would be happy to trade the talented but directionally-challenged Aguayo. There’s a reason Aguayo was drafted in the second round, and perhaps a team out there is willing to cough up a late-round pick to see if Aguayo can rebound. Cleveland comes to mind.
If Licht can somehow find a sixth-round pick, then he should pounce.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:27 am
I doubt there will be any interest in Aguyo but if Licht could pull that off it would be one heck of a move
March 18th, 2017 at 8:29 am
I just don’t see any team being foolish enough to trade anything for Roberto. I’d be especially shocked if a cold weather team traded anything for him.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:31 am
Sixth rnd pick? No way. Let’s hold out for a 2nd rounder like we did with Mike Glennon. That worked out pretty well. Oh wait …
March 18th, 2017 at 8:32 am
Yeah if he gets anything for him id be shocked. Let them battle it out, he loses then adios. Like they said, cut your losses. They “might” be able to swap picks in a round to move up a bit, IF they find a fool. Go bucs
March 18th, 2017 at 8:35 am
Zero chance a team trades for him, unless Dominik gets a GM job in the next few weeks
March 18th, 2017 at 8:36 am
Now that we don’t carry 3 QBs, we clear up a roster spot for an extra kicker…..lets give Aguayo kickoffs & extra points and Folk the FGs…..
Or, let’s simply cut Aguayo if he can’t be traded.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:37 am
Yeah but Joe, 87%… It’s way easier kicking in New York than the tricky stillness of Ray Jay!!!! Not to mention the humidity here….
March 18th, 2017 at 8:41 am
To quote Gruden, “Are u out of your skull?” Who wants to give up anything for him, he sucks. He will either get his spit together or be cut.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Unless Buccaneer BrownEye is a GM of an NFL team, I doubt there would be much interest elsewhere in giving up a draft pick.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:44 am
William Hayes did just get traded for a xerox. Guess somethings possible.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:44 am
They never were going to trade Glennon!!!!! Period!!!! They didn’t want him to leave ever !!!! So get over it that’s why they offered the guy 8 million dollars a year to stay!!!! He was not on the trade block for any draft pick not even a 2nd rounder don’t you get that? Jason wanted him for life!!!
March 18th, 2017 at 8:46 am
Again joe you are displaying the short sited Bruce Allen type thinking that sank this franchise. This is a rookie kicker that struggled just like Sebass and Vinitari did but their franchises had stones and believed in their scouting.
Reality check: Janikowski righted his rookie problems midway through his first season. Aguayo struggled in August and at the end of the year. Janikowski had a solid finish to his rookie year including kicking in three playoff games including a Super Bowl. He proved a lot more than Aguayo did.–Joe
Let it play out as if they trade him for nothing and he figures it out then the move looks bad twice while in 2 years we are looking for a kicker cause Folk is done. SMH at this fan base and YOU. Moves like what you are suggesting are the exact kind of moves that crappy franchise make.
Crappy franchises pretend players are better than they are. –Joe
March 18th, 2017 at 8:52 am
Can anybody tell me why we let Matt Bryant go to Atlanta?
March 18th, 2017 at 8:52 am
Wombat, I have kicked in both Tampa and NY. Tampa is a fantastic place to kick. NY? Not so much, especially in swirling winds in autumn.
As the air gets colder, a football becomes much harder to kick.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:53 am
Just admit you made a mistake and move on. No team will “trade” for him.
Personally, I think that not having any competition to push him last season, was part of the reason for his slow development. Maybe with a vet on the roster now, Aguayo might start to get better. Let Folk and Aguayo battle it out thru training camp, and if the kid doesn’t get significantly better, cut him and move on!
Everybody makes mistakes when it comes personnel and the Draft….if Joe had been our GM, we’d still be cleaning up the Johnny Manzeil mess….but I’m glad that Licht has finally accepted the fact that moving back up into the 2nd round to get Aguayo, so far, has been a mistake!
March 18th, 2017 at 8:54 am
Let him try to win the job.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:54 am
You’re high… not trading Aguayo. Folk signed because we offered him a deal and he’s been in the market for a month. Retiring in Fl isn’t bad either..
March 18th, 2017 at 8:59 am
Ya maybe we can get our 2nd round pick back???
Said no -1
March 18th, 2017 at 9:01 am
First of all, they’re not trading him even for a sack of dog crap.. Secondly, bringing in another kicker isn’t a bad move. The only bad move was drafting a kicker in the second round to start with.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:03 am
Maybe there is one, of the remaining 31 GM’s, who loves Ac/Dc and wants to be the smartest guy in the room that will give us a 2nd rounder for an over-valued, mentally-weak and inexperienced kicker.
Nobody is giving up anything for Rob. N.O. got a better kicker last year in the 6th round out of GA State! Licht has done a good job but that was THE WORST pick in many, many years; maybe ever. This pick very easily costed us a playoff birth last year. Frosts me, eternally!
March 18th, 2017 at 9:03 am
TBBF
I think the 2 K 2 QB scenario makes a lot of sense.
A trade is highly unlikely and I think Aguayo may shake off his yips.
Give him one more season.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:14 am
Why are the Jets letting Folk go if he’s all that? Just askin?
Why would we trade Aguayo for a sixth round pick?
Why wouldn’t we bring them both to camp and let them battle it out for the starters job? Again just askin?
March 18th, 2017 at 9:17 am
Can you put a kicker on the practice squad since he is year 2 player? I know he is taking spot of real player but just a thought.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:18 am
Just a shame we drafted him, he was never worth the price.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:19 am
Smells of the Glazers sending the message from on high to Licht that he better find a way to fix this horrendous kicking situation. Licht’s pride wouldn’t allow him to make this move so think it must be an ultimatum. Gotta think they were also grinding ginger between their aas cheeks like the rest of us every time this lousy head case was trotted out there.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:20 am
Pure guess work, and probably completely wrong.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:22 am
Looking forward either our 2nd round kicker gets it together or we use an already proven one.
So win/win.
But it doesn’t fix the insanity of picking a kicker in second round. The player we missed out on plus a middle of the road NFL kicker might have made the difference in making the playoffs last year, or leaving us with one less hole to fill this year.
I like Licht but that was epic stupidity. Many of us said so at the time.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:23 am
This kid is toast. The mojo was gone BEFORE they drafted him!
“You didn’t know that rock and roll burned
So you bought a candle and you lived and you learned”
March 18th, 2017 at 9:27 am
Suppose Aguayo shows great improvement in pre season and camp.
Can you really trust him in regular season vs. a guy that is proven, including the playoffs?
He truly sucked last year. And we’re trying to win the division this year.
Tough call.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:29 am
Why would anyone trade for one of the worst kickers in the league? They’ll just wait and see if he’s cut.
That being said, I hope he gets it together.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:30 am
Doesn’t anyone see the writing on the wall? Folk is here to help Aguayo. Jason is doing what needs to be done. Helping the kid get better with a vet to show the way. Aguayo isn’t going anywhere.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:34 am
I think this was a good move by the Buc’s. A good move for Aguayo. We have watched the kid do a great job in a very large venue throughout his time at Fl State. He came into the NFL carrying a high draft pick rank which pissed everybody off before the season started. I am not saying the the 5 Ft difference in the width of the goal post may have contributed to his problem but the fact that he had no competition may have. Finally the kid played for a National Champion team, that won practically every game going away and had very few pressure kicks to deal with. Plug him into the Buc’s who going into the season was one of the worst teams in the NFL and every game (with few exceptions) was a pressure packed situation. He freaked out. Now with the addition of Folk as competition and with a year under his belt I believe Aguayo will become the kicker we thought he would be. Just my opinion.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:34 am
I see IR in RA’s future.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:38 am
Perhaps Aguayo can learn a lot from a kicker who went through similar issues early in his career…Folk is here to help, he will find a job after camp with no problem and will get to pocket some Glazier cash with a signing bonus. And if it doesn’t help Aguayo, we can always keep him!
March 18th, 2017 at 9:40 am
Aguayo will have a successful career in the NFL, it is too bad he had to learn his lesson here. I liked the pick. Kudos to the Bucs for doing the right thing.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:53 am
lol i love the site and everything but you are way off on this one haha. not that i don’t think folk is gonna win the job or anything but why would they trade aguayo after 1 year and who’s actually gonna want to trade for him ? this is obviously the competition they were talking about bringing in and it’s gonna be a best man wins competition and i wouldn’t be surprised if aguayo is still on the team to start the season i mean the guy is the best kicker in college history he struggled last year because of the immense pressure bringing in folk to push him in training camp can only make him better and speaking of folk don’t forget he missed 2 extra points opening weekend that cost them that game i mean the dude wasn’t on a team yet for a reason so i think this is gonna be a way closer competition than your making it out to be saying folk basically already won the job and aguayo gonna be traded lol cmon use common sense then what’s our backup plan if folk starts to suck during pre season and aguayo is on a different team?? lol so stupid bro
March 18th, 2017 at 9:56 am
@bucsfamous Exactly! Other teams will wait until he hits waivers and take their chances there with him rather than give anything up for the worst kicker in the league last year. Folk will get the job unless Aguayo does a complete 180.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:57 am
James Walker…sorry you’re wrong. I’m willing to bet anyone, anything that Aguayo is done kicking in the NFL. Yeah he’ll have a few more tries on other teams, but that’s it. Anyone for a net bet?
March 18th, 2017 at 9:57 am
Licht’s pride wouldn’t allow him to make this move
As we see everyday here Dallas pulls a post from his dank dark netherside!!!
This is literally posting something he knows NOTHING about. There is NO WAY on earth that Dallas knows what Licht is thinking or what Licht’s pride is like!
He simply makes up crap up…always negative if it’s about Licht and posts it as if he has any credibility here. I guess I’ll leave it to everyone else to determine if that is sad and pathetic or if we should all simply…..bwaaahaaahaaa
Unfounded character assassination is not really that attractive or credible.
March 18th, 2017 at 9:59 am
I wonder what they paid for Folk. I am betting less than 2 mil, for one year. Which is fine for giving Aguayo a chance…another chance I should say. So yeah, carry two Ks on the roster for part of the year at least. In pre-season, split the reps in practice and games. After game three, name the starter. Regardless, keep both. Yeah, you hate to waste a roster spot but you will hate worse to DIRECTLY lose games with a bad kicker. Aguayo hasn’t proven he’s not going to make it in the NFL, but he’s rounding the final corner on that. I applaud the move. Jason is showing he may have goofed, which takes courage, but he’s also insuring against a loss over an extra point and that he doesn’t throw Baby GooByeO out with the bathwater just yet.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:00 am
Highly doubt they trade Roberto, especially after spending a 2nd on him last year.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:09 am
It is nice to hit a 50 yard FG every now and then. Even if it glances off the goalpost and falls over the bar.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:17 am
StPete- at it again so early in the day. Choke down two bottles of Ensure this morning?
It’s an opinion and last I checked that is what is being solicited around here. Technically speaking all the original opinions on here are just people making sht up. You think Licht is great by making sht up to excuse or hide his failures.
You know what is fact?….the Glazers were grinding ginger in their aases just like the rest of us every time AguaOh,no was marched out there. That dreadful feeling sticks with you and all you can see is the face of the guy that made you feel this way by spending a valuable second round pick to do it.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:17 am
This has to be the dumbest title to an article I’ve ever seen in my life. Who would trade for the worst kicker in the NFL?
March 18th, 2017 at 10:21 am
Another bad 2nd rounder by Licht
March 18th, 2017 at 10:21 am
Ga. BUC
Bryant had a hip pointer in camp and couldn’t kick in a competition between he and Mike Nugent in Dominiks first season as a GM, they cut him right before the season started and gave Mike Nugent the job, and he sucked. Since then we’ve gone through at least five or six kickers.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:26 am
Folk is a savy veteran who’s made 50+ yard FGs like it’s nothing and Aguayo can’t make 50+ or really 45+. He just looked lost last year whether it be nerves or envisioning Trump in the uprights deporting his family. I dunno.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:31 am
You do have to wonder why Folk would sign here, unless he was promised something.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:48 am
also people trashing licht over this pick need to use there brain he made a risky move to trade up to take a guy with a proven track record for 3 years in college people saying we drafted him to high are naive he was gonna get drafted in the 3rd round regardless it’s a fact people can sit back and say we took him too high but fact is that he was that high on every draft board and if we didn’t take him there he may have been gone by the time we picked again so people can say licht made a dumb move taking the kicker to early but it’s just a fact that this fun was gonna be a high pick for a kicker regardless we were just the team to end up making the move and now that aguayo is having his own struggles people want to try and pin it on licht when in reality it’s aguayo not living up to his hype and what he has proven he could do in college so if aguayo does end up a bust i put all the blame on him for not being able to live up to the hype and i applaud licht for going out and trying to get the game changing kicker that everyone in the nfl thought was a sure thing
March 18th, 2017 at 10:50 am
Janikowski had a few bad years, not just his rookie year. 2013, 2007, 2006 and 2005 he made 72% or less of his attempts. Would be foolish to get rid of Roberto over a so so rookie year.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:52 am
Sign Kaepernick, and package him and Aguayo for a 7th in the future.
I’m sure bith are most desirable to GM’s around the league.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:04 am
With your luck Aguayo will get cut, Folk will take over and miss 90% of his kicks. Meanwhile Aguayo goes to the Falcons and kills it but that would never happen here in Tampa. Oh wait my bad …Matt Bryant.
No patience, no loyalty and no championships. at least if you were winning these decisions would come across as genius but we haven’t seen the playoffs in 15years think about that. 15 years. Not even close.
Actually the coach who got the closest to the playoffs is considered a joke by most of the TB “real fans” ran him off just like Schiano and look where you are now, “on the verge”.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:07 am
Aguayo is done. COOKED. It’s over. Imagine this kid lining up for a game winner in the playoffs next season? No. I don’t want to imagine it.
Bring on the competition. Folk will win this job.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:45 am
Joebucs was talking about trading this guy back in October of last year. It’s a good sight for news but they’re opinions are often worse than that of fans which is saying something because they spend so much time with the team. No team is giving up a pick for a guy they know will get cut since teams don’t carry two kickers. One of these guys will get picked up. But you really think all things being even that they will pick folk over aguayo if they both have great camps? You make yourselves look stupid for posting this premature article before even talking to the gm or getting any kind of comment about the topic first. Rank amateurs
March 18th, 2017 at 11:59 am
Really? You guys watched that same dumpster fire of a kicker I did. Have some friggin common sense. 87 is also a Nole fan, but has been saying since Licht foolishly pissed a 2nd away. He’s been done since his last year in Tallahassee. Folk was 2-4 from 50, perfect from 40-49. Guess what, he’s missed less pats in 10 years than your guy has missed in one. St Pete, really? Why did the Jets let him go? Because they’re the Jets. They’ve done asinine things since 1969. The Browns are the only thing keeping them from being the most inept franchise the last 40 years. The Gianst success has also kept them further under the radar.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:01 pm
We couldn’t get a broken yo-yo and used bubblegum for that guy rught now.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
There’s better kickers as free agents….Nobody trades anything for that dude.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:25 pm
Agree to disagree, I’m betting our kicker this year is Aguayo. You draft a player in the 2nd round with conviction only to kick him to the curb after his rookie season. Time will tell but more times than not patience pays off.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:43 pm
If its close at all Aguayo will be our kicker…The Bucs want to make sure the kicking position is not an issue. Remember when you could run to the bathroom, grab a beer, or turn the channel when we scored a TD. I wonder how many field goal attempts we passed on due to not having confidence in him?
The Pressure is now on Aguayo
March 18th, 2017 at 12:46 pm
Eric Says
“Suppose Aguayo shows great improvement in pre season and camp.
Can you really trust him in regular season vs. a guy that is proven, including the playoffs?”
This is why I think that if he does improve, they keep two kickers going into the season, just to play it safe.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:46 pm
My money, btw, is on Aguayo.
March 18th, 2017 at 12:54 pm
Joe..Your picture for this article shows Roberto smiling and waving goodbye. Its accurate only it should be a frown. He’s outta here! If a team offers us a 3rd or 4th rder, we shall jump like a rabbit! And..we should. Roberto will eventually be a good kicker. In about 2 or 3 yrs. We do not have that kinda time to wait. Some other team does. Bucs believe they are close..to the prize. No time for..pacifiers or diapers..
March 18th, 2017 at 1:01 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 18th, 2017 at 12:46 pm
My money, btw, is on Aguayo.
I’ll take that bet! Shall we say one of your coveted figurines from the Hobbit or some magic elf/fairy dust?! I’m in! JBF Nation is the witness!
March 18th, 2017 at 1:36 pm
@Martinii, the goal posts in NCAA and NFL have been the same width since 1991. 18ft. 6inches.
March 18th, 2017 at 1:42 pm
I can’t imagine any team has more faith in Aguayo than the bucs do. no other team has any reason to pull for this guy. And definitely wouldnt trade anything to get him when he is likely to be cut anyways. Just let these 2 battle it out. If aguayo can get his head straight he can certainly win the job. Trade (if they can) the ine that loses after training camp.
March 18th, 2017 at 1:57 pm
I’d rather have him compete than trade a guy who was a 2nd round pick for what would now be a 7th rounder, maybe 6th at best.
When was the last time we got someone productive on this team with a 6th or 7th round pick anyways? Better off w/ UDFAs tbh.
March 18th, 2017 at 2:07 pm
Thanks gotbbucs! Just another poor move by the front office. To go with a history of poor moves! Hopefully that has changed.
March 18th, 2017 at 2:31 pm
I hope Aguayo isnt the new MG8 and we have to listen to the Joes whine and cry for the next 3 years about how he should be traded/replaced.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:01 pm
That Aguayo pick is a waste of three picks. Him and the 3rd and 4th you gave up.
He’ll wash out. It was Dexter Jackson like…one of the franchise worst picks of all-time.
Waste of two.
March 18th, 2017 at 4:01 pm
Saw a couple posts wanting Kaepernick as backup QB here. I’d guess the odds of that happening are sky high towards never. Not saying he would not be a successful backup here, Bucs won’t lay out that cash for a #2.
March 18th, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Yikes, that’s some pretty “alternative” math.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:24 pm
Yeah history repeats itself. Aguayo goes to another team and joins a elongated list of former Buccaneers who left Tampa prematurely and went on to win Superbowls or become Hall of famers. Jeez give me a break, I thought this was a professional site. The man had one season. Didn’t John Elway attempt to take his first snap from the guard? Sebastian Janikowski also had a rough rookie season. Give the man a chance.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:28 pm
Buccanegro …when he misses that game winner in the playoffs…you give him a
chance.
“I thought this was a professional site.”
Think again. lol
March 18th, 2017 at 6:31 pm
Dallas- you say Licht’s ego is too big. It gets in the way of his job and therefore he sucks as a GM. He has said when you make a mistake you don’t double down on the mistake trying to prove your were right. You correct the error ASAP and move on. He said it was something he learned while working with the Pats.
So, here he is admitting that his 2nd round kicker is not getting the job done by bringing in a competition. He is attempting to correct his possible mistake. No ego. He took a swing, may have missed and is willing to move on.
Yet he can’t win with you. Instead of giving him credit, you say the Glazers made him do it. This is why I know you are simply a jilted lover. I spoke with Jason and he said just move on, he’s not that into you.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:45 pm
If he is traded, you watch he’ll become a stud.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:54 pm
Once again, 87 proves that his Nole fandom doesn’t cloud his feelings about players. And to think posters on this site questioned your love for Winston as only Nole love.
March 18th, 2017 at 7:09 pm
it is just silly the crap you come up with sometimes
March 18th, 2017 at 7:48 pm
It’s wrong to have hope for aguyao and compare him to janikowski. Aguyao does not have a lively leg . Even if he turns his accuracy around he still will struggle from over 50 yards . There was a reason he was picked in the second round due to piss poor scouting and research on aguyao.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Bottom line you don’t forget how to kick. He will be back in a normal environment again now with competition and will kick like he is capable. The biggest mistake wasn’t drafting him it was not giving him competition in camp.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:51 pm
If you got a super bowl team and you see a hall of fame type kicker in the draft then MAYBE you pick him in the fifth round.
If you’re the bucs and take one in the second you are just ate up with the dumb ass.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:12 pm
There are so many 2nd round picks that don’t work out you people are ridiculous. How does anyone know who they would have picked instead would have been any good.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:43 pm
I think this will be the boost aguayo needs I hope anyways. Let them battle in camp and pick whomever does the best. It would suck to lose a 2nd round pick in his 2nd year but we can’t afford to lose games, besides the random one here and there, because of a kicker. The NFC is way to good to throw away wins.
But, there are tons of 2nd round picks that don’t work out. It hurts but it’s reality.
March 19th, 2017 at 12:47 am
God you people are clouded by your college loyalties. If this guy kocjed for Applacian State and missed the way he does, you would burn him in effigy. You would run hin out of town faster than you did Schiano.But he’s a Seminole, doesn’t friggin matter that beyond 45 yards he kicks it like a 100 yr old woman would, ,,,, no he’ll turn it around like SeaBass….vept, Berto has no leg……SeaBass could kick it with his off leg further than Aguayo can with his good leg.
March 19th, 2017 at 12:57 am
Yeah not all second round picks turn out to be good. So what. That doesn’t mean you throw away a draft pick.
Under that theory why show up for the draft at all?
A lot of the players won’t make it anyhow.
For that matter free agents fail a lot too.
What the hell lets disband the team. Too big a chance of failure, only one team wins it. Why try at all.
March 19th, 2017 at 1:05 am
Let’s just get a long snapper and a holder in round two and three. Picks don’t mean jack anyway.
March 19th, 2017 at 5:07 pm
It’s possible they might be able to trade him for a bag of chips and a Coke???