$12 Million A Year Steal For DJax
March 7th, 2017So just how much Team Glazer loot would it take to bag free agent wide receiver DeSean Jackson?
One BSPNer doesn’t believe it will be that much.
Senior NFL writer Jeremy Fowler of the four-letter is of the mind a figure slightly north of $10 million a year would secure Jacksons’ services.
@JFowlerESPN: Spoke with several sources who believe DeSean Jackson will be looking for the $10-12-million-per-year range when things ramp up this week.
Even if the Bucs could land Jackson at $12 million a year, that would be a steal. Why? Consider last year the Bucs paid Vincent Jackson some $10 million. Also factor in before Jackson suffered a season-ending knee injury, he sure looked over-the-hill if not disinterested.
So for an extra $2 million a year the Bucs will get a true burner to stretch the field over a guy that was MIA last year?
Where does Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht have to sign?
March 7th, 2017 at 5:08 am
Thats a great point comparing $12 million for D-Jax to $10 million for an injured V-Jax. I would pull the trigger on that
March 7th, 2017 at 5:42 am
I’m guessing a 4 year $46million contract, with the first $25 mil guaranteed will be about right. Then we can turn attention to any combination of Poe/Campbell/Baker and Mangold. Snag a RB or two in the draft, and we are good to go!
March 7th, 2017 at 5:47 am
If we end up paying $12 mil for DJax, so be it, but please don’t make it sound like that’s a steal Joe. The market for WRs is hyper-inflated right now, and needy teams (like the Bucs) pick up the tab. Folks keep saying that we’re floating in $$$, but we also have lots of present needs and several contracts (like for ME13) on the horizon.
Interestingly (OK, maybe just to me), for DJax to get 1,000 yds next yr at his career average 17.7 yds/catch, he’ll need about 56 catches. That means Bucs will have to target him right at 100 times or 6-7 times per game average if he plays in all 16 games (he’s averaged 56% reception rate). Those numbers are EXACTLY what he did at Washington last yr … 56 catches in 100 targets for 1005 yds. Not really an excessive amount for a #2 WR, IF DJax can maintain that career average at 31 yrs old. Still maintain that his true value comes in keeping the defense honest because of his speed, which should help both our passing game and our run game.
March 7th, 2017 at 5:51 am
What’s with all the deadskins???!!! I love up in DC. They’re a middling to decent team. We don’t need their cast offs. Jackson is a bad team mate, utterly lazy and a me-first guy. I hope they pass. The Chris Baker story was hilarious. He wasn’t even the best defender on a defense that was WORSE on 3rd and 13 than they were on 3 rd and 3. But by all means…lets grab some of their defenders…
March 7th, 2017 at 6:09 am
I hope I see breaking news on pro football talk today that says after meeting with Tampa Djax next stop philly. I want Mangold and Marshall. Pay them both what you’d pay djax. Even koetter is having concerns about him.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:10 am
Again, I would welcome DJax but I would personally much prefer Terelle Pryor. I don’t know how their prospective contracts would match up, however.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:14 am
I would still put Britt as a priority . Kalind while you have a very valid point , the Bucs have no #2 and acquiring one ( FA) makes the draft a whole lot more workable. Jeagan and Defenserules , I believe you are spot on !!
March 7th, 2017 at 6:16 am
Defense rules, the entire market is inflated right now, because they raise the cap seemingly every year. 12 mil a year in 2017 is comparable to 8-9 mil in 2014.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:23 am
I would rather give Stills 10 mil a year for 4 years. I cant believe the lack of interest in this guy from Bucs fans
March 7th, 2017 at 6:23 am
That is horrible logic. So we are gonna pay one guy 2 million more because we over paid a guy that shouldn’t have made 10 million in the first place that didn’t produce??? SMH that’s called why should I play hard..
#Vacation
As soon as he bruises his knee, he’ll be on IR.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:27 am
12 million isn’t a steal in my opinion, it would be bad business and furture cap hell. Can you say JR Swezy 2.0. 7 or 8 million on a 2 year deal and prove you can still play and stay health.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:36 am
Jason u could have drafted Jarvis laundry instead of the asj clown and saved sooo much glazer coin
March 7th, 2017 at 6:38 am
Man, you guys are tough. You pray and beg for weapons for Winston, then there is a chance you can get an explosive play-maker, so now we bitch about how much to pay him? First, how do you know Pryor, or any other player WANTS to come to Tampa? All I hear is all this cap room the Bucs have, so now some fans don’t want to spend it on DJAX. So they pay DJAX 12 mill a year, they still have 50 plus mil in cap room for more moves. And, I still think they let Martin go, that’s 7 mil more. I am just happy a REAL play maker wants to come to Tampa.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:43 am
Still would trade a lower round pick for Mike Wallace
DeSean Jackson – $12M Per Year (3yrs)
Mike Wallace -$8M (2017) Contract Year ←
WR – DeSean Jackson – Past 3 Season Totals (2014-2016) *WAS
• Games Played: 40
• Games Started: 37
• Pass Targets: 244
• Receptions: 142
• Receiving Yards: 2702
• Yards Per Reception: 19.0
• Touchdowns: 14
*3yr Average – GP:13/GS:12 | Tgt:81 / Rec:47 | Yds: 901 | TD’s: 5
Vs
WR – Mike Wallace – Past 3 Season Totals (2014-2016)*MIA,MIN,RAV
• Games Played: 48
• Games Started: 44
• Pass Targets: 303
• Receptions: 178
• Receiving Yards: 2352
• Yards Per Reception: 13.2
• Touchdowns: 16
*3yr Average – GP:16/GS:15 | Tgt:101 / Rec:59 | Yds: 784 | TD’s: 5
Classic Case of Possible “Take the Money & Run Vet”
vs Vet Playing for his Last Big Contract
March 7th, 2017 at 6:47 am
Mike Wallace (2016) Baltimore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZKSVVCqJ0U
Dude can still ball
March 7th, 2017 at 6:49 am
What joe does not understand is paying vjax 10 mil last year was of no consequence because the team salaries overall were not affected salary cap wise. Now that kwon, marpet, evans etc contracts will be up for huge raises next year, paying djax 12 mil can have an adverse effect on the team’s salary cap. Big difference.
March 7th, 2017 at 7:01 am
I personally don’t want to see us shelling out that kind of money for DJax. Of course we need a lot more speed on offense, and that’s what DJax brings probably better than anyone in the league. But, he’s in his 30s and has never really been known for anything else besides deep routes. Essentially he’s a one trick pony. With our needs on defense and a few of our own big name young players to extend. I rather invest the money on a cheaper speedster. Mike Wallace would be the alternative but a lot cheaper. Maybe even Kenny Stills if he comes down off his high horse. But I would like for us to make a splash more on the defensive side. I rather give that money to Calais rather than DJax.
March 7th, 2017 at 7:09 am
2016 Stats
• Mike Wallace (2016) REC: 72 | YDS: 1,017 | AVG 14.1 | TD: 4 <-
• DeSean Jackson (2016) REC: 56 | YDS: 1,005 | AVG 17.9 | TD: 4
(2016) Yards After Contact (YAC)
• Mike Wallace – 423 | 5.9 <-
• DeSean Jackson – 287 | 5.1
March 7th, 2017 at 7:37 am
All Tampa needs to do is basically swap the salary of one Jackson, for the other.
But this Jackson is downright dangerous to the other teams, once he catches the ball. Plus, his speed must be respected when he is on the field, keeping teams from stacking the box on us, and also improving our running game.
I hope we go get this game breaking receiver, and I think he will do fine here in Tampa. His YAC show that he is a real football player, and not a slacker, when he plays.
March 7th, 2017 at 7:38 am
For $13 Million A Year
• Gain 2 Vertical Threats
• Improve One of the Worst Kick off Return Units – In NFL History
Trade for/Sign
• (30) Mike Wallace
• (25) Cordarrelle Patterson
Tampa gained only 14.6 yards per kick return in 2016
Worst Kick Return Average in NFL History
Note: Cordarrelle Patterson is currently the best Kick-Returning in the NFL.
• ALL-PRO: 2013, 2016
• PRO BOWL: 2013, 2016
Cordarrelle Patterson (2015-2016) Kick Return Totals
• Rt: 57 | Yds: 1811 | TD: 3 | Lng: 104 | Y/Rt: 31.8
Projection
• Mike Evans | Russell Shepard
• Mike Wallace | Zay Jones
• Cordarrelle Patterson | Adam Humphries
In 4 Receiver Sets – U would have a true bubble screen threat on either side of the formation.
Mike Evans
-Adam Humphries
-Cordarrelle Patterson
Mike Wallace
March 7th, 2017 at 7:39 am
Mike Wallace isnt even a FA which means we would have to trade which means giving up a draft pick most likely. And we dont even know if Baltimore wants to trade him do we?
March 7th, 2017 at 7:44 am
Trade for/Sign
• (30) Mike Wallace – $8M
• (25) Cordarrelle Patterson – $8M
Cordarrelle Patterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ygFCPGQxM
March 7th, 2017 at 7:45 am
*Cordarrelle Patterson – $5M
March 7th, 2017 at 7:51 am
Free agency is about to get underway in a few hours and we’re going to be shocked at the price paid for top free agents.
I know what everybody means when they say don’t overpay for a particular player. In principle, I share that same philosophy. Implied in that philosophy is not just the price, but the ability of the player to be worth that price.
But keep in mind what happened to the salary cap this year – it went up 12 million and it’s been doing that every year. Prices are being driven by the last CBA and the windfall in TV revenue the NFL is currently receiving. Teams who want to compete must pay the prevailing price.
Look at what has happened to the franchise tag prices and god forbid you tag a player twice. Now granted that a long-term contract price will be lower but not that much. We’re going to have to adjust our thinking as these prices continue to soar. For example, 10 million dollars for a top wide receiver is a total bargain today!
Top pass rushers – JPP, Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, Kawann Short – basically off the market at avg. 17mil. CB Trumaine Johnson 16.7mil (tagged twice). WR Antonio Brown signed a 4yr contract at 17mil/yr.
The franchise tag value is the average of the top five salaries at a player’s position, or 120 percent of a player’s previous salary, whichever is greater. The transition tag is worth the average of the top 10 salaries at the player’s position. So, some players are already receiving the numbers you see below and more. If the Bucs want the best players in FA, they’re going to have to pay those numbers. The market has been set! You either run with the big dogs or stay under the porch! Lol!
Projected 2017 Franchise Tag Numbers
Quarterback $21,588,870
Defensive end $16,988,266
Wide receiver $15,795,917
Linebacker $15,287,383
Cornerback $15,095,872
Offensive linemen $14,829,703
Defensive tackle $14,770,194
Running back $12,755,536
Safety $11,691,943
Tight end $9,865,550
Kicker/Punter $4,946,841
Source: ESPN senior writer John Clayton
March 7th, 2017 at 7:59 am
I’d rather have the rookie Ross and spend the money elsewhere. Weird feeling about Jackson. Of course we all know Ross might not be available when the Bucs pick.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:00 am
I think the Bucs organization will pass on him………
They’ll get a durable WR and then draft more
…….build through the draft and keep it as simple as possible……he’s using the NE approach……….
March 7th, 2017 at 8:08 am
“So for an extra $2 million a year the Bucs will get a true burner to stretch the field over a guy that was MIA last year?” – J0E
I’m sorry, but I’ve always believed speed means nothing if he cannot catch or score. Jackson simply cannot score. He’s had 4 TDs the last 2 years, and only 6 TDs the year before that.
Teams ‘respecting the speed’ is a myth. What they respect is WRs who can actually catch and score. That’s not Jackson. Not to mention the ‘high-maintenance’ issue.
And that’s why I don’t want him. Not for $12m, not for $10m.
DRAFT a WR.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:13 am
And let’s not forget, Vincent Jackson scored 7+ TDs per year for 5 out of 6 years. And had over 1,000 yards 6 out of 7 years.
And he is a born leader. I firmly believe he helped Evans develop.
Vincent was twice as good as D-Jax.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:14 am
@TheBucsAnthem
Exactly how I feel, Anthem!
March 7th, 2017 at 8:14 am
I mean…people are talking about paying more money to downgrade in quality. Insane.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:19 am
LUVMYBUCS Says
“• (25) Cordarrelle Patterson – $8M”
I would love to get in Tampa, but I don’t see it happening. I suspect that once Patterson’s agent gauges how much he can make, he’s sign for around that much with his home team the Vikings.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:24 am
*(25) WR/KR Cordarrelle Patterson – $5M (Base)
+ Incentives & Escalators
March 7th, 2017 at 8:31 am
Luv, he got over $5m on his last contract. He’s going to demand much more this time around. I think $8m base is on the cheap.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:32 am
Actually, ignore my last post. He got over $5m but it was for the life of his contract.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:36 am
you’ve also got to remember that with the cap going up 10-12 million a year is going to be the right price for djax when u compare what other receivers on the market are going to get it may sound like a lot now but 2 years from now that won’t even be a top 20 contract for a receiver
March 7th, 2017 at 8:38 am
It would be smart for V-Jax to resign at a reduced salary and then the Bucs could rotate V-Jax to compliment D-Jax. That is, if V-Jax wants to have a shot at a ring.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:39 am
Buccaneer Bonzai
No ones paying Patterson $8M per year to return kicks
March 7th, 2017 at 8:41 am
Can you imagine this line up:
1) Mike Evans – Draft Pick
2) D-Jax – V-Jax
Slot) Draft Pick/Humphries
March 7th, 2017 at 8:42 am
I agree with Lunchbox…I definitely prefer Pryor over DJAX…not quite as fast but really…Google has DJax at a 4.35 40 and Pryor at a 4.38.
There is a huge difference in size and overall athletic ability between Pryor and DJAX not to mention age. Mostly though I think Pryor is the hungrier guy and he still feels he has something to prove.
Meanwhile what about ME13. If we give him a contract extension does the guaranteed money come back to this year’s cap? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I’d love to extend ME13 and take the chance on injury…we do it with every FA anyway.
Let’s PAY ME13 right now and amortize the savings from the final year of his rookie contract over the next several seasons. I’d like ME13 lining up next to the other WR making the same amount of $$$ and not being dissed because of the stoooopid CBA!
March 7th, 2017 at 8:43 am
Just say NO…
March 7th, 2017 at 8:45 am
What thunder and mac said yo..
March 7th, 2017 at 8:55 am
I never put all eggs in one basket
I’d rather for us have a more complete unit – from Top to bottom.
Cause this dude goes down, with a bum shoulder – we’re essential back to scquar one.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:57 am
I never put all *my eggs in one basket
I’d rather for us have – a more complete unit – from Top to bottom.
Cause this dude goes down, with a bum shoulder, etc– we’re essential back to square one.
March 7th, 2017 at 8:57 am
I like it LUV. I wanted us to sign Wallace when he was a FA so id be good with that
March 7th, 2017 at 8:58 am
LC?
Right on
March 7th, 2017 at 8:58 am
Love this time of the year, when our heads spin with anticipation about fresh talent infiltrating our ranks. Being a little “off the wall, out of the box,” kind of guy I think back to 2016 and don’t recall any anticipation over a guy named “Brate.” Sometimes all you need to do is take a look at what you have. Cerel Walker intrigues me.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:00 am
12mill!? No way. Pass
March 7th, 2017 at 9:02 am
For a team that struggles to make THE MINIMUM salary cap most years, you people freaking out over the cap is hiliarious…
March 7th, 2017 at 9:04 am
Derel Walker, sorry.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:06 am
tmaxcon
U know me – I could care less about the cap. Its all paper money anyway
But If you can build a more complete TEAM – from Top to Bottom
So that you can compete/dominate – all 3 phases of the game.
Sign me up
March 7th, 2017 at 9:07 am
Quality Depth over Quality Debt
March 7th, 2017 at 9:19 am
Chyno & Bonzai, DJax is much more than just a very fast WR. Not too many one-trick ponies could average 17.7 yds per catch and almost 1,000 yds/season over 9 seasons. And his 55-56 catches per season average over that time isn’t all that shabby, especially when combined with a 56% catch-to-targets ratio for a deep threat (our #1 WR deep threat ME13 has averaged almost 54% in comparison). Personally don’t like paying $12 mil for a #2 WR, but let’s not sell short what he brings to the table now and what he’s accomplished over 9 seasons.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:37 am
Yea tmax I was looking at it from a financial standpoint for a while. Now, screw it. Desean Jackson is a weapon so just pay him what he wants and lock him up.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:38 am
I’ve never understood the consternation with Buc fans and the salary cap. It’s not our money, who cares?!
The Bucs just need to be making solid decisions in FA.
@LUV- I agree with your sentiment about quality depth. We see the effects of lack of depth every year. It’s the difference between being 9-7 or 11-5 IMO.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:44 am
For all the talk about paying up on a FA in favor of a draft pick… Why not both? Draft one and pick up one. Get some weapons!
March 7th, 2017 at 9:49 am
If Djax is the only weapon we add in FA I want us to add a WR / TE / RB with 3 of our first 4 draft picks
March 7th, 2017 at 9:52 am
Doesnt make sense for bucs to get in a bidding war for a 30 yr old receiver when they will then have to turn around and pay Mike Evans even more…Frankly thats how you get into salary cap hell and struggle to remain competitive year over year. If you factor in injuries….Lets say you take Jackson at $12 million per year….he’s got 3 productive years in him at best. He gets injured and we are right back where we were with practice players for depth….minus $12 million in salary space. You could likely sign Britt and Marshall for $12 million per year and now have depth. A true franchise QB doesn’t need all these expensive weapons to make him effective….he simply needs solid role players which is more of what Licht envisions and sticks to his Patriot roots.
March 7th, 2017 at 9:58 am
Please not DJax. There are weapons like Pryor, Brandon Marshall, Kenny Britt, Patterson, Hawkins, Jordan Cameron, and Martellus Bennett that will be cheaper and some can probably be a 2 for 1.
Not to mention we have a solid opportunity of drafting either Corey Davis or John Ross (who is faster and waayyyy cheaper than DJax).
March 7th, 2017 at 10:04 am
DPewter
might want to do a little research before waving the Ross flag his knees are TOAST!!!!! Bucs need reliable weapons not fragile combine warriors
March 7th, 2017 at 10:06 am
Due to Dom’s incompetence in structuring contracts, Vjax got paid $10 mil last year at the age of 33. Plenty of people here knew that it was ridiculous.
I just have a bad feeling about Djax and would much rather go after Mike Wallace or Torrey Smith.
March 7th, 2017 at 10:15 am
Why do people keep bringing up Mike Wallace? He isnt a free agent…
March 7th, 2017 at 10:24 am
bucsfaninchina … Torrey Smith is an interesting possibility now that he’s become a FA. Last season with the 49ers was pretty much a disaster for him, but prior to that he had 4 excellent seasons with Baltimore and 1 with SF. Reading an article from SF about why they’re letting him go, sounds like he might have lost some speed. May be just a smoke-screen on their part however, because ALL of the 49ers lost some speed. He turned in a 4.36 I read earlier in his career. Not too shabby, considering the numbers he put up with Baltimore.
March 7th, 2017 at 10:34 am
@ThunderChunkyPA
I’m one of the people against signing D.Jax. Personally I’d like Stills but if he is asking for $12 mill that’s a joke. I’m not bitching about how much we pay for explosive weapons for Jameis. I’m bitching about paying a 30-year old a-hole in the locker room that doesn’t show up for any volunteer practices $12 million a year. We have too many good youngsters that are gonna get paid top dollar or they’ll be taking off.
March 7th, 2017 at 10:45 am
Still dont understand why people give 2 craps about spending Glazier coin on short term contracts.
March 7th, 2017 at 10:51 am
@Defense Rules At 28 I’m not expecting Torrey to have lost much speed at all, certainly sounds like the niners trying to save face. The thing is, noodle-armed Kap wasn’t getting the ball to him and with most likely a rook QB for the coming year a deep threat isn’t what is needed. He is a good guy and fits the profile of a “playmaker” that Licht keeps referring to. Talk is he wants back in Baltimore, but I sure am hoping Mr. Licht flashes some dolla signs.
March 7th, 2017 at 10:54 am
Torrey Smith apology to the 49ers organization:
“I would like to say thank you to the @49ers for allowing me to wear red and gold for the last 2 seasons. It didn’t go the way we wanted it to but I’m thankful for the relationships I was able to build. I had a great time in the locker room with my teammates and equipment staff. I’d like to apologize to the fans because you didn’t get to see me at my best. Regardless of what other may think, I believe the 49ers organization is first class and is heading in the right direction.”
March 7th, 2017 at 10:55 am
sub-4.3 guys have not wound up being great football players, with Chris Johnson being the sole exception. penciling this ross kid in as if he’ll be an equivalent to one of the most productive deep threats of his era (DJax) is a terrible terrible idea. The kid could wind up being as useful as the other DJax in that draft
also, dollars is not a great way to look at these deals with the cap rising so fast. i bet as a % of cap, paying someone 12 million right now is the same as paying them 9 million back when the bucs signed Vincent Jackson. In other words, Joe is right, it would be a steal
March 7th, 2017 at 11:12 am
bucsfaninchina Says:
Due to Dom’s incompetence in structuring contracts, Vjax got paid $10 mil last year at the age of 33. Plenty of people here knew that it was ridiculous.
Dominick made plenty of missteps, the VJax contract was not one of them. He earned every penny of it the first 3 years and the bucs could have cut him with no penalty either of the last 2 years under his original contract. VJax stayed on the team at that salary because Licht & Koetter wanted him to, not because they had to.
one thing Dominik can’t be charged with is stressing our cap. MD contracts were easy to walk away from, which is great because there were lots of bad ones. between that and his failure to assemble more talent, we could’ve paid VJax $25 million and not been hampered in signing FAs or extending core playres
March 7th, 2017 at 11:13 am
Blake_bucsfan Says:
March 7th, 2017 at 10:45 am
Still dont understand why people give 2 craps about spending Glazier coin on short term contracts.
Especially since the NFL actually had to put a minimum salary cap in place partially because of teams like the bucs. Bucs salary cap should not enter any discussions at this stage. the cap is in great shape it’s the roster that is a joke. cap can be dealt with lack of talent is unacceptable.
March 7th, 2017 at 11:33 am
@Midnightstroker1 you need to work on your reading comprehension skills cause it wasnt coach K whobhad those doubts its was Anthony Becht! Smh did youbeven read the article or did you just scroll by and read the caption with a pic of Coach K next to it?!?! You Buffoon!!!! I wont even delve into that stupid Marshall comment
@ Joe i give you a hard time for all the crap articles you post on here but this sir is not one of them. We overspent last year on a crap receiver that i çlearly declining rapidly. Couldn’t create seperation if he had jet packs strapped to his ankles but yet you have crybabies on here that dont think Djax is worth 2 mil more for all of his production?!?! Smh
March 7th, 2017 at 11:37 am
Thank you Tmax couldnt hace said it any better myself. Lets look at the Packers for instance. Letting Rodgers prime years waste away cause they refuse to spend money. Sorry guys there’s only 1 Belicheat most teams spend to get over the hump. Ots not your money with your broke asses so stop crying about us spending it to win which ia the ultimate goal here is it not and not to save Glazer money whom are multi billionaires
March 7th, 2017 at 11:40 am
12 mil is not cheap at all. Esp for a guy on the wrong side of 30 and has issues scoring TDs. He is worth around7-8 mil tops. Would rather have Kenny Stills and Robert Woods for that price
March 7th, 2017 at 11:40 am
Or Garcon for that matter
March 7th, 2017 at 12:25 pm
The good thing about the cap is it allows us to be a major player this off-season. Over the next 3 years it goes up to 200 million. That allows us to sign guys this year. And still have money to resign our young guys currently on rookie deals. Be smart Light and get us some talent!
March 7th, 2017 at 12:27 pm
FunkyMunkey Kenny Stills said he wants 12 million too.
March 7th, 2017 at 12:49 pm
Just because V-Jax got 10 million to be on injured reserve doesn’t mean 12 million for D-Jax is a bargain. It may be what he gets paid (here or elsewhere), but no top-tier free agent contract could be considered a bargain.
March 7th, 2017 at 6:20 pm
I wonder how JW will feel about D Jax if he decides to skip out on voluntary workouts. It just seems like a boat load of money for a guy whose heart may or may not be 100% on board. The over 30 WR has worked out for us before but they were willing to give it there all. I’d like to see Licht go with a different option.