“The Kid Is Special”
February 10th, 2017
Endorsed by Hall of Famer.
If somehow, some way running back Dalvin Cook slipped to No. 19 in April’s draft, Bucs general manager Jason Licht would be out of his AC/DC-listening mind not to draft him.
That sure seems to be what Marshall Faulk is suggesting.
The Hall of Fame running back spoke with good guy Mike Tanier of Bleacher Report about running backs in the draft — Joe came across a three-year old phrase from Tanier last night concerning Lovie Smith: “[N]ever underestimate a terrible coach’s ability to suppress the quality of his own players” — and Faulk was effusive in his praise for the Florida State product.
“The kid is special,” Faulk said of Cook. “He can go. The first time I saw him was his freshman year against Miami. Oh, my God, he shredded them. I was watching with Michael Irvin, and it was ugly.”
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who “shredded” defenses?
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who can also catch out of the backfield and not just use that one trait as some career crutch?
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who is so friggin’ quick, he can exploit the smallest of creases into a 30-yard gain?
Bucs coach Dirk Koetter always pines for explosive plays. Cook is a walking explosive play just waiting to happen.
February 10th, 2017 at 5:23 am
Took him one less year to smash Warwick Dunn’s records….crazy good
February 10th, 2017 at 5:23 am
warrick
February 10th, 2017 at 5:44 am
“Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who ‘shredded’ defenses?”
“Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who can also catch out of the backfield and not just use that one trait as some career crutch?” (Sick Charles Sims burn)
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a running back who is so friggin’ quick, he can exploit the smallest of creases into a 30-yard gain?”
The answer to all those is obviously yes. I just really hope that people realize that Dalvin Cook isn’t the only RB capable of doing this in the draft. If Cook is drafted before we pick we can still find a RB with these qualities.
February 10th, 2017 at 5:54 am
Sigh – Why even dream about Dalvin Cook falling to 19. It will never happen. I will be very surprised if he makes it out of the top 10.
It will take more draft picks than we can afford to go get this kid. For all the reasons that everyone keeps talking about. Yes he is a special player. He’s quick, he’s fast, great vision, he’s a good receiver, he’s a decent blocker and he’s a hard runner to stop – especially when he gets some space. A true 3 down back and one of the best RB prospects this league has seen come out in the last 10 years.
So what in the world makes anyone think he will be available outside the top 10 much less at 19??? Its a legit question.
Carolina is seriously considering Cook with the 8th pick you can be sure and the Bengals at 9 will be hoping the Panthers pass on Dalvin so they can grab him.
Realistically, The Bucs will have to trade up to #7 to get Cook (assuming he has not already been picked by then which is certainly no guarantee). The draft trade chart says that it would roughly take the Bucs 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to get up to #7.
So who besides NOS-BOS is up for that move???
In summation – Its a waste of time to even think about the Bucs drafting Cook unless he gets in trouble or gets hurt before the combine or something unexpected.
February 10th, 2017 at 6:19 am
Not saying this is the case, nor even the same category, ATL sacrificed much to get Julio at the expense of their defense and offensive line, since drafted in 2011 it has gotten them to SB and 2011 NFC championship game. Does Cook bring you Julio Jones impact, I don’t think so but we would have to hit on every other piece of the draft and free agency if we traded into top ten.
February 10th, 2017 at 6:35 am
I would like a DE with the #19 pick, but if we could add Cook to our offense we don’t need any defense!! LOL
February 10th, 2017 at 6:41 am
Would love Cook at 19 but he won’t be there. Take OJ Howard if he is still there, defensive tackle in 2nd, WR in 3rd, and Joe Mixon in 4th. Mixon has same abilities as Cook. Give him a chance.
February 10th, 2017 at 6:51 am
Joey pops when someone is the best that means they are better than others. So no no one can do what Dalvin can do in this draft, don’t fool yourself sir.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:04 am
Like mixon in third , the OJ Howard in 1 st , WR BPA in 2nd and berry , Djax FA possiable JPP , Poe
February 10th, 2017 at 7:07 am
Dalvin Cook is skinny. Already has a history of Shoulder injuries, and hamstring injuries. But by far the bigbest knock on Dalvin is that he had a 63.8 fumble rate.
Meaning he fumbled the ball once every 64 touches. One of the worst things running back can be known for, is being a guy with shaky ball security.
Pass. I’d rather have O.J. or a top flight safety/ pass rusher.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:13 am
@Blake_
Lol too early to get Nos Bos going homie.
That being said, about that fumble rate though. That’s not true is it, DAMN 1 in 64 ? Yo, if it is then I’d pick someone else.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:24 am
@ndog
I never said someone can do it as good as Cook. I just said there are other RBs in the draft that are excellent in the passing game and can be a home run threat in the run game. If I had to name someone it would be Alvin Kamara.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:29 am
ball security is correctable.Tom Coughlin did it for Tiki Barber.That said I would be happy to get O. J. howard or Dalvin Cook on the team.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:33 am
And I’m not saying pass on Dalvin Cook. I am saying that if Dalvin Cook is not there at #19, we can still find a RB that can answer those questions in this draft. They might not be as good as Cook at it, but they dont need to be to have success.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:37 am
Yup 1 fumble for every 63.8 touches. Cbs sports had n article about it.
February 10th, 2017 at 7:52 am
Blake arguing with you is pointless as he won’t be there, but you will see and you will be proved dead wrong.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:02 am
G morning Joe.. Endorsed by a guy I’ve stated he he similar to for weeks now go figure. I’m done arguing wit a few Ronald McDonald’s of this site. The players are doing all of that for me. Last years first rounder say “he’s special” a HOFr says “he’s special”. Guess I kinda know what it looks like when I see wouldn’t ya say there Pop and side kick blake. This one easy people the writing on the wall. If you can’t see this is the target (by any means) come draft night you slow. Again two 6’1 255lbs FBs were signed soon as the season ended. I don’t recall a single FB set from Kat season but now there are two on the roster. Not even peculier. Whata whus good my G.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:03 am
K. I know that it’s impossible to sway Fsu fans on this subject. I merely stating facts. Pretty much the only opinion based thing I said was that he’s skinny.
I’ll say this, there are plenty of Running Backs that ran hogwild on College defenses, that had lackluster Nfl careers. And I have a gut feeling that Dalvin Cook is going to be one of them. Because I do not see his body holding up against the brutal onslaught of punishement endured by NFL tailbacks.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:10 am
Would it not make you wonder the least bit blake o pal last year’s 1st round pick endorces a guy projected to go 1st round this time around. You don’t get anything from that do you, guess you too busy studying all that film huh Ted Thompson.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:14 am
I wonder how far up we could get with this year’s first and next year’s first. 12 maybe?
February 10th, 2017 at 8:15 am
Funny thing is all you same haters when in the privacy of your own living rooms will be fist pumping his weekly accomplishments like crazy. I Gaurantee. But for now remain butt hurt, that sensation will soon pass.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:15 am
Btw Nole fanboy you’re outta your skull calling me a sidekick. Since I’ve been anti Dalvin since Day 1 YDB.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:20 am
The two firsts might be enough to just get into the top 10.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:22 am
Cook is the reason I wanted to lose the last game of the year…. !st time in 40 years of rooting against the Bucs. Would have given us the 14th pick in the draft and a shot at cook. He won’t be there at 19. Colts , Eagles or Ravens grab him. Damn! I guess WR or D Line in 1st round and RB in the 2nd.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:24 am
@Nosbos
I feel like you arent even reading what Im saying lol. All I am saying is if we dont end up with Dalvin Cook we can still improve the run game with other RBs in this draft. Its not “Dalvin Cook or bust” for our offense. I dont understand how that makes me a hater.
And yea Blake is not my sidekick lol. We have 2 similar but different view points on Cook.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:39 am
Why even talk about top 10 talent. We pick 19 lol
February 10th, 2017 at 8:41 am
John Ross. He’s exactly what our offense is missing.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Pickgrin, your cost to move up to #7 for Cook looks about right, but that’s a steep price to pay to get one player, regardless of how good he might be. We’ve got too many needs to sacrifice a #1, #2, #3 and #5 this year. I like Sunny’s approach: Rnd 1: OJ Howard; Rnd 2: WR (BPA); Rnd 3: RB (Mixon would be great if he’s there). All predicated on the hope that we can add some needed pieces to our defense through FA (Poe, JPP or Campbell, a safety and hopefully a FA WR like Desean Jackson). Use our remaining draft choices to add depth (DLine/OLine/S/LB/CB/WR)
February 10th, 2017 at 8:47 am
Ya it would be nice to have enough talent that we could draft a 3rd down back with a first round pick
February 10th, 2017 at 8:57 am
Yep, and I sure he’ll look great lined up next to Cam Newton kicking our butts every year. No way he’s there when we pick. NO Chance. Pipe dream. Let it go.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:01 am
Now if I was trying to be a hater of Dalvin Cook I would do this. Here is a quote of Marshall Faulk talking about another young stud RB that was a high draft pick. Try to guess who he is talking about.
“Yeah, its there,” said Faulk. “You saw it in college. Its the reason that in a league that theyre starting to kind of devalue the position, he gets drafted so early. He has it in him. Its in him to be great. He wants it.
Spoiler: Its Trent Richardson who is out of the league. Take that however you would like.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:03 am
@Nos Bos… Sup big homie… Honestly the way you beat the drum for Cook. There’s no way in hell he’s there at #19. Seems like a empty dream. I truly think the stinkin panthers are gonna get him. So listen
Once your boy is gone, I’m really gonna need you to get on the Mixon train lol
Btw…
Nos Bos
Blake_bucsfan
Quit being already, both sides have been heard. You bring ALOT to the table for us here at JBF. The team has other issues that we need to argue about lol
February 10th, 2017 at 9:04 am
@SuperSam i honestly wouldnt mind if the stinkin panthers drafted him.
I can see Kwon swiftly decommissioning him with a slobber knocker of a hit.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:06 am
Quit beefing^^^
Damn lack of an EDIT button lol
February 10th, 2017 at 9:16 am
@WhatdaBUC
I hope we argue about WRs next, or even defense. Anything to get off the RB topic lol
February 10th, 2017 at 9:17 am
David Johnson was drafted in the 3rd round….just saying.
What are the chances at some point that we can start talking about players that the team might actually pick? There might as well be a blog thread about us drafting Myles Garrett.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:36 am
Pipe Dream. Cook will be wearing Panthers Blue
Samaje Perine in the Third looks like the best option.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:37 am
Yeah I said basically what gotbucs just said
February 10th, 2017 at 9:38 am
I was reading a report on Cook that said he might drop down in the draft because teams don’t like the entourage that hangs around him. Plus there were reports of sweeping things under the rug to keep him playing at Florida St. Me personally i would draft him, but maybe we should consider another player of equal talent. In my opinion McCaffrey is a great player in his own right. Watch a tape of his last two years he is a touchdown machine. I think if we can’t get Cook, McCaffrey is a good option at 19.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:41 am
You are sidekick blake nothing more nothing less. You can’t carry Pop’s jock strap. Pop is informative without bias. I learn alot from him. You on other hand are filled with hate. Says alot about your character.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:43 am
“Pipe dream” I’m taking all bets. Got a chunky tax return this year I can stand it trust me.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:44 am
You can shred a bad D with a good Oline all day. NFL isn’t a bad Miami D.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:48 am
Whata no one is touching Mixon. Him not receiving an invite the to the combine says it all. Not to thrilled with spread RB guys personally. They lack the toughness and heart to consistently run between the tackles. Again your 1st rounder is on radio station saying we need a certain player, would it not lead you believe that he has at least a semblance of what’s on Jason Lichts mind pertaining to this years draft??? Y’all really think the players are out of the loop. Y’all crazy if you actually think that.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:48 am
Nosbos i doubt you’ve learned anything from anyone. My opinions are my own. And multiple people have pointed out that you think anyone that doesn’t cream their jeans dreaming of Cook is a hater.
You are by far the most biased regular commenter. And the most irrational, and the most uninformed.
Hop off you pion.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:49 am
What those gaytor defenses R.O.???
February 10th, 2017 at 9:51 am
Right on cue you say a whole lot of nothingness. Stop jocking Pop sentiments and develop some of your own.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:53 am
I hope you a man of your word but I highly doubt it. Haters usually turn tail and run.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:57 am
He will not be there at 19 because other talent evaluators recognize he is an elite talent. BTW, he is not skinny. While not particularly big, he is thick in the legs and is sturdy. Oh, he’s damn fast.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:59 am
Marshall Faulk is one of the very very few talking heads that have a clue. Whenever he and Kurt Warner speak I listen. These guys are hardly ever wrong. In this case its obvious though.
TB fan: Dalvin is a thug, he’s been arrested, was found with a gun. He’s two steps away from shooting someone or beating up a cabbie. We can’t have thugs like that in our team. It might dirty our clean white sheets and robes. Lmaomaolmao
February 10th, 2017 at 10:06 am
@Joey…
Your thoughts on OJ Howard… Over a DE with the first lol.
These two won’t stop
February 10th, 2017 at 10:11 am
@Nosbos
Turns out Mixon not being invited to the Combine is because of a rule that was put in place last year. If a prospect has been convicted of domestic violence, sexual assault, or weapon offenses they are not allowed to participate. Its not like Goodell himself said “I dont want Mixon there” which honestly is what I first thought when that news came out. He still has the Oklahoma Pro Day to do all the tests.
And about the VH3 interview, keep in mind that he didnt go out of his way to promote Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook’s name was brought up specifically by one of the hosts and he answered their question.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Ishh comical right DB. He won’t be there don’t really matter. Remember our GM traded up for a kicker. Like that 19 really means anything..
February 10th, 2017 at 10:15 am
Licht Needs to Move the Leader of the Losing Culture the Smiling Ice Cream Man and a draft pick this year and next if needed to go up for Cook. Get the dynamic weapon Jameis needs and get the leader of the losing culture out of the building… It’s the perfect win win for licht and buc fans. Get a dynamic player and get rid of a overrated, soft, mentally weak average DT that disappears when needed most.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:15 am
See how informative Pop is blake. Man that dude the truth. You on the other hand.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:16 am
@WhatdaBUC
Lol. I like OJ Howard. Seems like the complete package of a TE. Over a DE tho is tricky. I’m higher on Taco Charlton than other people seem to be. Of DEs that can be available around #19 the only 2 I would take over Howard is Charlton and Derek Barnett.
I am coming around on David Njoku too. There are about 7 or 8 guys I would take over Njoku at #19 but if they are all gone he is another offensive playmaker at the TE position.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:18 am
Kill two birds Tmax??? I likey..
February 10th, 2017 at 10:20 am
Round 1 wish list.
Dalvin Cook
Corey Davis
OJ Howard
Solomon Thomas
Derek Barnett
February 10th, 2017 at 10:20 am
Btw you can thank me for your new found love of Curtis Samuel. Seeing as I’m the one that sparked Stpetes interest in him. Homeboy.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:24 am
If all we did was get Mr. Cook this off season I think we could make the playoffs.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:27 am
NOSBOS
I am consistent and convinced the bucs can’t win with the leader of the losing culture. His “Special” season comment was all you needed to hear to determine GMC is NO Winner. He’s a avg dt with a good smile. Screw that. Give me a throat stomper and a breakaway back… that will win game not these failed choirboy losers Dominic and schiano had hardons for. 7 years of the losing culture it’s time for the leader of the losing culture to go.
maybe they can trade him to ISIS. I hear they really like those Oklahoma preacher types.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:27 am
@Tnew two firsts is a little too much, the last time I looked at the trade chart I think our first, second, and a late round pick was enough to move to 12. If there are other teams that want the pick it could drive that price up though.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:28 am
I’m afraid Corey Davis will shoot up (I originally typed “Rise Up”, fuk that) teams draft board during the NFL Combine. I really like this kid.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:28 am
Dream first round- Cook falls to 19, we trade back into the first at pick 20 and 21 to grab Howard and Brantley.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:33 am
@MarineBucsFan
Corey Davis isnt participating at the Combine due to an ankle injury. Honestly I dont think it hurts his stock too much. Unless Arizona lands a key WR in free agency I dont think Davis makes it past them at #13.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:34 am
USFBUC
I like your dream. some of Colorado’s finest hydro must have made it to the bay area to come up with that one. I like though.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:39 am
Thanks for the info Joey, I was not aware of that. Might be a good thing for us.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:42 am
Pop that may very well be because of instructions from Licht. He could’ve easily said no-one’s name but he chose to. I wonder why. I’ll give you cred for Samuels blake.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:43 am
Tmaxcon it isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Our future firsts are worth more trade wise than all of the first round picks after ours.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:45 am
We just have to convince a few of the teams after us that they don’t need a first round this year. Might take us throwing late round picks in too. If you think we are headed to the playoffs next year we should be trying to trade our future firsts because their value is only going to diminish next year and the year after that
February 10th, 2017 at 10:46 am
If you noticed he laughed the first attempt from the talk show host. Didn’t wanna get into any trouble. But later when backed into a corner he said to h3ll wit and gave a nugget by saying Dalvin Cook “we need him, he’s special”. Could’ve this guy from Mia you now hyping, could’ve said Howard’s, could’ve said Davis name could’ve said his teammate Tabor name . But no he said Dalvin’s name.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:47 am
That’s a fact USF!!! We will be drafting near the bottom of the draft for years to come people.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:52 am
Yep NosBos the Bucs need to make moves and grab as many picks this year to address all the potential gaps. Then in 2020 start the process over again
February 10th, 2017 at 10:56 am
No doubt he has the potential to be great but he will not have the luxury that elliot had going to an OL that could possibly be an all time great, the bucs need sooo much more than cook, like OL, to help jameis and whoever totes the rock, licht is out of his mind if he mortgaged the future on cook, there will be another RB next year or later on in the draft that could be the next leveon bell or david johnson who both were not picked in round one…get jameis OL help and another weapon and build defense through FA…OL/WR,RB
February 10th, 2017 at 10:58 am
The problem though Dusty is that generally most analysts seem to be saying the OL class is weak.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:05 am
USF i hear ya…on that….i was listenening to daniel jerimiah podcast of the first round yesterday and he has us taking the UT RB alvin kamara that he says is the next jamal charles but the next pick has the broncos grabbing an OT from wisconsin…..cant NEVER go wrong with the big boys from the BIG 10 esp a running school like wisconsin….watched alot fo sec games not sure on kamara, jerimiah is the expert but I just think the bucs need OL and alot of it
February 10th, 2017 at 11:10 am
@Nosbos
Thats not how I remember that interview going. The way I remember it is they were trying to get him to say who he thinks the Bucs should take in the 1st round (or something along that line) and he didnt really commit to it. Then one of the host said “What about Dalvin Cook?” Then he went and said what he said about Cook. I doubt he was coached up by Licht lol. He probably does feel that Cook is a “special” player. I just wouldnt read too far into it because they were most likely just trying to find a headline.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:22 am
Kamara looks like a decent back that should be able to stand up to the punishment of the NFL. I wish we didn’t have questions regarding our Oline. I am trusting Coach K when he says that he is satisfied with the line play.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:24 am
Hargreaves spoke about cook because they directly asked about him by name. Ya maroon.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:32 am
This Dalvin Cook discussion is “pointless”, if you’re not willing to trade the future to move up for him.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:33 am
Tmax
The kid from Stanford can come in and take GMC job easily just like Aaron Donald would have done.
Trade GMC to Cleveland and draft Solomon Thomas and DC in the first.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:35 am
We have to move up in this draft to get Cook. If Cook lasts past the Bengals at 9, then we need to put a pretty little package together to trade with the Bills and nab Cook at #10. I would be very happy to give up the 19th overall and a 3rd round pick or even our 2nd round pick if necessary.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:36 am
I would love to see Dalvin rock the red and pewter. But he’s not gonna fall to 19. We would have to give up quite a bit to be in position to take him and I honestly see him going to Jacksonville at 4.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:37 am
LakelandBuc 100% and despite what licht did last year by wasting 2nd rd pick on K, the bucs cannot afford right now to throw away picks for an RB
February 10th, 2017 at 11:39 am
And why exactly did the host ask about that specific player dips@$!???
February 10th, 2017 at 11:41 am
Largo I’d wager my home Coughlin not taking Dalvin. Not his way not his type of back. Coughlin may Foreman in the 2nd because he fits the mold the last guy he coached Brandin Jacob 6’3 260.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Man this DALVIN Cook thing is like an OBSESSION Saturday Nole man! Cálmate
February 10th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Being honest only the colts,eagles and Ravens concern me. But if Licht’s intel tells him they are anticipating will move they way he did for Marpet when his intel told him the pats and hawks were about to.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:46 am
Viejo I’m very slick when I need to be. I study meta physics bro,all this chatter is creating my desired outcome for real. I just voice my opinion why they choose to chime inn everyday is beyond me.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:47 am
DB55
Hell yeah I’m in on that. The losing will stop when the leader of the losing culture is eradicated. I’ll say this GMC did a great job leading his fellow defensive unit to quit on multiple coaches and show up to play unmotivated, unprepared with no passion on numerous occasions. That’s what gmc lead defensive units give you. Get rid of the ice cream and let the real mean lead Jameis and Kwon. Gmc defenders only have the chihuahua like ankle grab on Ryan to brag about
February 10th, 2017 at 11:47 am
@cmurda
What if you had to give up all 3 of those picks? Would you still be willing to make that trade?
February 10th, 2017 at 11:49 am
Tmax and DB that’s why I want Campbell so bad. I feel like if we can suround him with enough mean and nasty it won’t matter what what he does or does not do.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:50 am
And Cmurda he will last past the bengals at 9
February 10th, 2017 at 11:52 am
Bernard and Hill already on that roster.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:52 am
If we’re seriously done with Dougie…..then move up for Alvin Kamara like we did with Doug with our second pick….top 10 of the 2nd round. Use that first for Dline or weapons for JW3.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:53 am
I know we moved up in the 1st for Doug…..worded it the wrong way, sorry.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:54 am
Nosbos cant spell sense or does correctly, can’t do a menial amonut pf research before posting blatantly incorrect s(p)it, but all of a sudden he studies meta physics.
Thats some funny stuff right there.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:55 am
Sims to full-time WR.
Draft Cook, if possible.
Trade Martin for BPA OL.
2017 RB’s: Cook, Rogers, BPA
February 10th, 2017 at 12:00 pm
Gio Bernard is coming off a torn ACL and Jeremy Hill reminds me of Doug Martin. Productive as a rookie then earns the starting role and does nothing lol. Its unlikely but I wouldnt rule the Bengals out for drafting Cook.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:04 pm
He could potentially go that high Nole, more likely he goes to Carolina or maybe Indy. However if he makes it past that top 8, then he would be in perfect range for Licht to make a trade up. I’ll have to pick his brain when stops by the restaurant.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
Pickgrin are you out of your mind. A second third 4th and the rest you typed is irrelevant. Try a first a third and maybe a 4th next year. To move up 12 spots. Just stop. Shows ur inability to assess what trade would be required. Literally a 1st and 3rd would do it if you throw in a next year pick. Maaaaayb a second but every damn pick. Get the hell out of here
February 10th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
blkae you still overly concerned wit spellin dude. Now that’s funny. “You mad bro” why??? Maybe its because your argument is impotent it ain’t growing sidekick.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
TMAX im with you on that that would be a good trade of GMC up in the draft for a #1 and then the cook ppl would get that #1 pick for the RB and then a lower 1st pick on OL or WR
February 10th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
@Chip.. I’m with you. C McCaffrey is just a touchdown maker. He’s listed at 6’0 200 lbs. Very round numbers if you ask me. I’m guessing 5’10 and south of 185 at combine, but he has got a lot of “it”. I’m usually not a highlight package watcher, but I found myself watching entire highlight reels going wow, wow, wow, looking down and finding 8 minutes had passed. His work rate and will for excellence is reportedly comparable to Jameis’ but I couldn’t imagine Jameis ever sitting out a bowl game. The problem is that he is an excellent Charles Simms. He will be at 19, but the Bucs would have to come back and pick a RB later unless they decide to roll with Doug Martin (something I fully anticipate at a restructured contract).
I am really starting to look over this class, I fully believe there will be a nice intersection of talent and need at the 19 spot. There is no way to anticipate who at this point. Trading up is still an option if someone like Cook, Barnett or Adams falls. #12 is the spot that the Bucs can look at. Cleveland who already has an early pick is sitting at 12. They love to deal picks. That one is the option.
But at 19, you might find OJ Howard (but this is a pretty good and deep TE draft), McCaffrey,Corey Davis or Malik Hooker.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Mo Down now that’s some sense talking right there bro. blkae they coming out the wood work dude and it Sony even March yet. Sidekick on deck.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:19 pm
D@$! blkae even Dusty coming around. Where you at sidekick???
February 10th, 2017 at 12:20 pm
The Colts have a better chance of moving up for Cook than the Bucs. It wouldn’t take as much for them to move from 14th into the Top-10.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
Meta-physics-beyond physics the study of perceived reality and the deeper underling reality and principles bright boy.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:23 pm
Now go win yo simple @$$ a spelling bee on that sidekick.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:24 pm
Thats why you failed to comment on you’re wanna be lovers fumble rate.
Worst thing a running bacl can ever do is cough up the rock. And the man you spend your days fantasizing about does it quite frequently.
You just keep flicking your bean dreaming of Cook tho dude. Just know that over half of the community here is sick of your belligerence.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:24 pm
Anything possible Lakeland,do you live there??? Have you been to Mojos lately??? That building teeming with people wanting Dalvin.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:27 pm
I’m very dialed in with the football program at Florida State and the reports that Walterfootball.com have are a complete lie.
That’s also the same site that said Jameis would be at Mons Venus every night if the Bucs darfted him.
Dalvin is a normal kid so yes he does have friends and occasionally goes out but his closest friends are all on the football team. He’s a team leader that is unselfish and works as hard if not harder than anyone on the team.
I highly doubt he makes it out of the top 10 but if we could trade our first and 3rd and move up to get him it would be a home run for our Bucs.
Remember how good Warrick Dunn was when he played for the Bucs?
Well this guy is better.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:35 pm
Thank you for the clarity wausa. Fumbles??? He had what 10 in three years. Well one was after the 40 yard reception when he threw it out of bounds. My belief we point shaving so in reality 9 ain’t bad.
February 10th, 2017 at 12:37 pm
Wausa you would think I’m endorsing a complete bum. Fopls talking bout bad shoulders,bad ankles,pistol toting and fumbles.. Why exactly is he projected to be a top 10 pick again…
February 10th, 2017 at 12:47 pm
He says half the community sick of my beligerence. Hmm that’s peculier. Well why does half the community respond to me everyday. Wouldn’t that make fools of you all???
February 10th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
NOBOS….im with you 100% that cook is a difference maker and would love him on the bucs, but not for 2 #1s, I am guessing at the latest cook doesnt make it past the eagles a few spots before us…but The Jags would be a a place I think he goes at #4…i read what you said about coughlin and it makes sense but the NFL is different now and needs an all around back….hope he slides to the bucs…still need OL to protect him and jameis
February 10th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
“He’s special,we NEED him”-VH3.
February 10th, 2017 at 1:01 pm
That’s real talk Dusty. Ima sign off wit this(workplace calling me). I’ve watched this GM operate since taking the job. If Dalvin is indeed the highlight of his Big draft board he’ll be a Buc. One way or the other. Y’all take care now. You too blkae.
February 10th, 2017 at 1:04 pm
HEYYYY!!!!. Supersam is back from the bowels of tenn. and mariotta’s crotch. How’s it been holding Mariotta’s empty jock for him since he’s been laid up hurt?
February 10th, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Nope Nole.. I don’t live in Lakeland anymore, I moved from Lakeland to Atlanta 31 years ago. But I was down there for 9 days, a couple of weeks ago. And I have never been to Mojos. The Jets need a RB as bad as any team in the draft. We don’t know what they will do with the 6th pick.When I’m in Lakeland, I hang where I grewup, Black Bottom Community.
February 10th, 2017 at 1:20 pm
Samaje Perine
Freshman year. over 1700 yards 6.5 ypc 21 TDs
Soph year. 1350 yards 6.0 ypc 15 TDs
Jr. year. 1060 yards. 5.4 ypc 10 TDs……..WHILE splitting carries with Joe Mixon
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I PRAY that Licht takes a good look at this kid.
February 10th, 2017 at 2:05 pm
Walter Football Says:
He runs with a posse of gang bangers. Think that won’t get worse when you drop millions in his pocket? Pass. We can wait until round 3 to draft a RB.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php
February 10th, 2017 at 2:12 pm
I wonder what will happen with bucs_365 comment first. Nosbos tears it up or Blake adds it to his list of why to not draft Cook lol.
Its kind of like what came first the chicken or the egg.
February 10th, 2017 at 2:13 pm
@Sb i’m so with you on Perine. Getting a runner like Sameje, or Mixon for that matter, would be A freaking steal of a pick in th 3rd round.
February 10th, 2017 at 2:13 pm
There was one run, of the several i saw, that stood out as something I’ve only seen a very few rbs do. He hit the line and got through the tiniest of creases, very low to rhe ground when he did, broke the run for i believe a 20 or 30 yard td. Barry Sanders was one that comes to mind on a very short list of rbs that could have . It reminded me of the old Gale Sayers video, give me 3 inches of daylight, thats all i need. He’s special, i believe the most talented player in this draft.
February 10th, 2017 at 2:48 pm
NOSBOS:
Walterfootball for all those Gator fans has a real hatred for Emmitt Smith. Maybe they just don’t like players from Florida schools for some reason.
Coach Fisher when asked about Dalvin Cook:
“You just look at yourself and say ‘how many times can this guy make this many big plays? For instance, he had 19 touchdowns this year, his averaged touchdown run was 26.5 yards, which is crazy,” Fisher said. “The thing I will really miss the most about it is his lack of entitlement, his work ethic and his ability to affect the other guys on the team because of his personality and his demeanor.”
February 10th, 2017 at 2:58 pm
Lets stop the move Charles Sims to receiver talk, what makes Sims successful is when he is line dup against a linebacker and maybe a safety, most corners could play up on him because they can be physical and give him an even harder time getting off the line of scrimmage. Not only that, he is better receiving screens out of the backfield. If he played receiver, then Dirk would run that same play he runs to Humphries all the time.
February 10th, 2017 at 3:02 pm
You can’t take quotes from coaches about there own players as fact. The coaches always hype up their own players not only to help those players but to turn around and say they can do the same for recruits.
Dabo Swinney said passing on Deshaun Watson would be like passing on Michael Jordan.
I’m not saying what Jimbo is saying in that quote is false. I’m just saying coaches always talk up their own players.
February 10th, 2017 at 3:12 pm
Not happening, quit feeding the dreamers.
February 10th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
I just steer clear of players who run with an entourage. Perhaps that allegation is incorrect, but those kind of players tend to be trouble. I’m sure Licht will be checking out whether this guy is a bad character.
Personally, I think they need a RB that they can pound up the middle 20+ times a game. That’s priority.
February 10th, 2017 at 5:10 pm
Lol yeah cause Lebrons got this biggest entourage in pro sports. Look at all that trouble he’s caused. What a generalized statement. Most of the idiots we’ve had that have gotten into trouble, did it on their own, without any “entourage”.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
1 fumble every 63.8 touches for Dalvin … so what … that means he’ll fumble 5 times a year and will probably lose 2-3 of them … another RB might fumble just twice and lose just one but I’d rather have all the extra yards Dalvin will put up and two extra fumbles than “just some guy” in the backfield who only loses one fumble …
February 10th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
@NFLNut I’m sure you wouldn’t feel that way if he fumbled at a crucial moment in a big game, and cost us a victory. You know, like he did his freshmen year in the Playoff game against Oregon. When he fumbled the ball away twice and put the game out of reach.
February 10th, 2017 at 9:09 pm
Just to give you an idea, the average fumble rate for the top ten NFL rushers this year was around 112. Above average/Elite fumble rates are 120+
February 10th, 2017 at 10:44 pm
@SB BINGO! “Samaje Perine
Freshman year. over 1700 yards 6.5 ypc 21 TDs
Soph year. 1350 yards 6.0 ypc 15 TDs
Jr. year. 1060 yards. 5.4 ypc 10 TDs……..WHILE splitting carries with Joe Mixon
………………………………………………..
I PRAY that Licht takes a good look at this kid.”
Mixon will be trouble, so no, just no!
PERINE! YES! And probably there bottom part of 3rd / top of 4th.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:46 pm
Blake you are just digging a hole that is going to be impossible to dig out of if Cook is what he has always been…awesome. So when it happens don’t run and hide cause the odds of you being right are slim sir.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:47 pm
Yeah….we had one remember? Cadillac Williams. Look how long that lasted. Taking a running back in the first is a fools exercise. They don’t last long. They CAN’T. They take too much of a beating.
Yes to Perine or Hunt etc. 3rd round is where you want an RB.
Also, please don’t misunderstand…Cook will be a beast – For 3 years. Maybe.
February 11th, 2017 at 12:10 am
I guarantee you I will not run and hide. If I am wrong about him, which I very well could be, I’m only human; I will humbly eat my words.
Obviously I feel that I won’t be wrong, but will definitely admit that I don’t know everything there is to know about Football. I’m just a life long fan with a hobby of watching college prospects in the off season, and try and find the ones I want us to draft.
Never have a claimed to be right about my perceptions of players. I wasn’t very high on Teddy Bridgewater for example, and he turned out to be pretty decent before he got injured. But I have been right too.
February 11th, 2017 at 3:41 am
Broy34 Says:
February 10th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
Pickgrin are you out of your mind. A second third 4th and the rest you typed is irrelevant. Try a first a third and maybe a 4th next year. To move up 12 spots. Just stop. Shows ur inability to assess what trade would be required. Literally a 1st and 3rd would do it if you throw in a next year pick. Maaaaayb a second but every damn pick. Get the hell out of here
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Perhaps you should have taken a look at the draft trade chart before you spouted off. All NFL GMs follow that pretty closely – at least as a “value” guideline when making draft pick trades.
February 11th, 2017 at 3:59 am
As per the draft trade chart, here’s roughly what it takes to move up from 19:
#19 pick + our 4th rd pick = moving up to 17 (almost)
#19 pick + our 3rd rd pick = moving up to 15
#19 pick + our 2nd rd pick = moving up to 11
#19 pick + our 1,2nd, 4th and 5th rd picks = moving up to #9
#19 pick + our 1,2nd,3rd and 5th rd picks = moving up to #7
#19 pick + our 2018 1st rd pick + a 3rd or 4th = moving up to #7
February 11th, 2017 at 9:40 am
I hope Blake and Nos read this. It will add fuelto their fire, Barry Sanders rookie year, 10 fumbles in 304 total attempts, rushing and receiving. Thats quite a bit worse rate tha Dalvin, so by Blake logic, they should have passed on him and drafted the third best back in the draft.
February 11th, 2017 at 5:33 pm
Let’s not let Joe start a “movement” to draft Dalvin Cook at all costs. Remember, Joe’s fascination with Johnny Football a few year back? If the Bucs’ front office had followed Joe’s advice back then we would have an ex-quarterback in rehab and no Jameis Winston. Let’s let the Bucs’ front office, e.g. Jason Licht and Dirk Koetter do their jobs.
February 11th, 2017 at 11:33 pm
I’m not as biased as sum Tampa fans about Florida talent but one thing is very certain Leonard Fournette is worth trading a complete future draft… in fact if the tale of the tapes don’t lie and rb’s preform at the combine I can see 4 RB gone in the first bc after that it is a drastic drop off in talent after that… if they were able to jump in the top five and keep their 2nd and 3rd pick the Bucs would have Super Bowl written all over us
February 11th, 2017 at 11:45 pm
In my dreamworld we mortgage our future 2018 draft for Leonard fournette and we pick up a good safety and wr in the 2nd and third and also come away with Dontari Poe Eric Berry and Cordarelle Patterson in free agency… nearly impossible for that to happen bc there’s no way in hell the chiefs let both of them walk.. but hey we can dream can’t we