“Huge Jump”
February 9th, 2017
Big 2017 predicted.
Think the Bucs already have a good quarterback in America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston?
Well, if so, hang on to your hats.
Cameron DaSilva of FOX Sports has been monitoring the NFL landscape he picked out a few quarterbacks he expects to take significant career steps forward in 2017.
At No. 2 on the list is Jameis.
Jameis Winston has one Pro Bowl nod under his belt already in what’s been a solid start to his NFL career. He’s still not a top-tier quarterback, but that will change next season.
Winston has struggled to protect the ball in his first two seasons. He’s turned it over 41 times in 32 career games, including 33 interceptions and eight lost fumbles. The fumbling issue was an even bigger problem this past season, losing six of his 10 fumbles.
Mistakes like that simply can’t happen if you want to be an elite quarterback in the NFL, and it’s certainly something Winston will work on this offseason. If he can correct those issues, his 50 career touchdown passes will look a whole lot better. Expect Winston to have around 28 touchdowns and fewer than 13 interceptions next season, which would certainly be deemed a massive improvement.
You know the main reason Jameis may take a big jump this season? It has nothing to do with turnovers and everything to do with weapons.
Look, mostly, Jameis had no running game to speak of. And outside of Mike Evans, what receiver struck fear in the hearts of opponents? Yeah, Rudy Humphries came on late in the season but he’s a possession guy.
If Jameis had a reliable, veteran receiver opposite Mike Evans and a running game to at least force opposing defenses to play a little honest, Joe is sure Jameis’ picks would drop.
February 9th, 2017 at 8:34 am
If we can add a #2 receiver and draft a good WR early (within the first 3 rounds) and upgrade the run game, 28 TDs is a low expectation. I can see him being around 35 TDs and 15 INTs.
February 9th, 2017 at 8:52 am
No excuses for Winston next year if the turnovers and bad throws continue this will just be the kind of middle of the road qb he will be. Sure hope the GM help him out with better weapons and he stops giving teams extra possessions and free points with consistently turning the ball over.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:28 am
I hope your are right Joe. He is going to get more weapons and thet should help, but he has to get more accurate. Lots of over throws and lots of ball where if he hits them in stride the WR runs to pick up more yards but its off target so the WR stops or slides for no YAC.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:31 am
So all of Winston’s picks and fumbles are Jason Licht’s fault?
February 9th, 2017 at 9:31 am
Fierce competitor man. With the proper tools trust me no-one will be complaining about any aspect of his game. Need those ballers on the roster. I wanna see some power conference dudes. No more Wyoming’s and Nebraska’s for the skillz guys. There are an assortment of sweet feet dude’s in places like FSU and OU. Pete I can’t stop looking at Samuels. That kid’s feet are video gammish.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:32 am
Jameis is pressured on more dropbacks than just about any QB in the NFL, and that’s the major reason for both his INTs & fumbles. Sorry, but that says a lot about the offensive line to me. Obviously we need a better run game to keep the opposing DLine & LBs from teeing off on Jameis like they do so often, but again that gets back to the OLine. Bucs’ WRs are almost never wide open, and again that puts the pressure on Jameis to ‘thread the needle’ far too often. I love that he’s a playmaker who’s always working to make something happen (one way or another), but he needs not only better weapons (RB, WR & TE) but also an OLine that offers better protection. I’d say that 2 of the 5 OLine spots need upgrades if we’re going to make the playoffs.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:46 am
No worries.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:51 am
@defenserules-but the Joes claim the line is good. But these are the same Joes who wanted Manziel over Carr and thought Vic Beasley was a bust…
I 100% agree the o line needs to be addressed but even when Jameis had time he was still making dumb decisions with the ball. My fingers are crossed he finally puts an onus on protecting the ball and learning to keep drives alive with spreading the ball around rather than kill drives with low percentage throws. Year 3 will tell me a lot about where Jameis is as I hope all the pre draft hype of a high football IQ finally shows up on the field
February 9th, 2017 at 10:02 am
Tony, we’ll all be waiting to see if he meets your expectations next season. In the meantime, just “copy and paste” all your responses to anything related to Jameis.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:07 am
While, every player has been criticized on this site, JBF seems to totally ignore Jameis has some SERIOUS work to do. I love his drive. But his accuracy… Not so much.
It doesn’t matter if we get elite players for him, BUILD THE WALL for him and get Cook (Nos Bos shout out) HE’S THE ONE WHO MOST IMPROVE. He’s our future so I’m hoping he gets it together.
I love that he looks for GODZILLA most times, sometimes forcing it. Lol I would too. But those throws though.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:15 am
@Gilhealy…. Tampa Tony comes across harsh. I do understand him though. Why can’t #3 be criticised. While he’s put up impressive stats. He’s said himself he doesn’t care about that. If your actually watching the games he’s off more than on. Sweet jeez you guys, he’s not remotely close yet
February 9th, 2017 at 10:26 am
I’m not debating that. Anyone who thought a then 21 yr old would have it figured out early was delusional. Do you not think Jameis knows exactly what he’s learning? My issue is Tony repeats the same drivel every single time he posts. And, he is “remotely close”. He’s very close. He needs skill players to play with. Then, it’s on.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:28 am
I don’t mind anybody’s takes on JW anymore.
I like him just the way is. The game will come to him.
He’s going to throw wild balls on occasion and he’s rarely going to throw it away.
I’m going to keep him in Tampa for awhile though. Too much good in his game.
gilhealy is right to a point. We all can copy and paste our same responses on numerous topics during this off-season. Including JW of course. It’s a looong offseason.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:30 am
Damn it I need permanent glasses!
February 9th, 2017 at 10:38 am
Wouldn’t trade him for anything. He’s the best thing that’s happen to this team in a long time. He’ll throw..
4,600 yds
42 TDs
13 ints
I’m calling it now
February 9th, 2017 at 10:43 am
Whata what’s my G. As far as the hits go Defense Fameis the ultimate competitor when he drops back his instinct is to make a play bro. Fameis ain’t about chucking the ball out of bounds. Her believes in his guys even when we as fans feel some are not up to par. Gives him some guys that win down field and he won’t have to hold on the ball. I don’t know how many times last season when he drop back and pat the ball pat the ball pat the ball, why no one open down field. Playmakers yurn Rio make plays man.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:43 am
@gilhealy-sometimes you have to repeat yourself for others to open their eyes. By trade I am a corporate trainer so critiquing Jameis from a teacher/trainers view is maddening as you see the potential but you also see the consistent mistakes that he doesn’t seem to learn from.
As a #1 overall pick who was praised as having a high football IQ after awhile you have to see those traits eventually carry over to the field. I’m as big of a Bucs fan as you’ll see and want him to succeed but all we know after two full seasons is he is consistently inconsistent which is not a receipe for success in the NFL
February 9th, 2017 at 10:45 am
Again I swype when I post sometimes the wrong word pops up. The “Her” meant to be He and the Rio should be “to”.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:47 am
I wanna see how consistent you would be throwing to Freddie martino and speedy reedy. With no semblance of run game.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:48 am
Put me in the Minority on this site, but I’m not sold on Jameis yet. And to be honest, I don’t see what he have done to win anyone over. As far as the Running game goes. My question is: How can you go from 5th in Rushing to 24th in one season?
February 9th, 2017 at 10:49 am
The thing about Jameis is he’s inconsistent. Now think about that for a minute. He is NOT CONSISTENLTY bad. He has flashes of elite play and flashes of terrible play.
He has the ability to be very very good as he has shown. I don’t think it’s about him learning to be better, it’s about him learning to play more mistake-free football. Utilize the check down. Spread the ball. A run game and better accuracy downfield could vault him into the top 10 at the position in no time. I like jameis a lot but let’s be real, he’s still naïve. There are plays that I call out for him to make that I’ve learned as a couch coach that im confident he will learn as well. Also, he makes overthrows. He rarely underthrows. That’s an issue with power not as much about accuracy.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:51 am
Now,Jason about to go get his guy(Dalvin) Dirk gone go get his(Curtis). Afterwhich come back and talk to me about inconsistencies dude. I’m willing to bet your tune will be different. Siskel and Ebert @$$ muuh…
February 9th, 2017 at 10:53 am
Nole-no one is asking Jameis to throw the ball out of bound ms at least I’m not. There were numerous times in games last year where it was 3rd and short or less than 5 yards and instead of hitting the open receiver to keep a drive alive #3 chucks it down field incomplete.
Is that him not seeing the field? Over confidence in one receiver? Not knowing his limitations on what throws he can consistently make? Good QB’s keep the drive alive and give your team a chance to win. My criticism is hoping he improves and gets better as the Bucs will only go as far as he does.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:53 am
How??? An RB that had off field issues and a back up that’s afraid to run between the tackles that’s how.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:55 am
Okay Tony that’s reasonable.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:56 am
@LakeLandBuc
About the running game. The injuries definitely didnt help. We started what? 5 or 6 different RBs. Also the void that was left when Logan Mankins retired was never filled in terms of both on the field and just being the veteran leader of the group. The combination of both those things kind of doomed us imo.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:56 am
So we would be better with Josh McCown lakeland??? The guy just released by the Browns.
February 9th, 2017 at 10:57 am
Nos Bos… Sup big homie. No doubt he needs better weapons
Lakelandbuc…I trying to be positive lol. But yea I’m in that group too.
Anyone can have ALOT of weapons but you can’t aim, is all for not. I really hope he hits my prediction… But I ain’t holding my breath until I see him show progress in ball placement
February 9th, 2017 at 10:59 am
And I can respect that Eric, check it be critical if you like jbf but understand some of us are high on our guy because we’ve never seen the Bucs with one. I was baby when DW was here didn’t see that at all. People critic without giving any props to the positives. No one has ever stated he is finish product.
February 9th, 2017 at 11:00 am
I told all of you a year ago!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
June 3rd, 2016 at 6:51 am
Is it too early to be scouting for WR in the 2017 draft??? We will hear lots of key words, such as “explosiveness” and “speed” when the Bucs will be looking early and often for WR!!!!
February 9th, 2017 at 11:03 am
Now Whata I would be lying if I didn’t scratch my head on the placement of some balls. But again we talking about a portrait that ain’t finish. Fameis know’s he has to work on some things. I’m sure he will.
February 9th, 2017 at 11:08 am
Realist!!! Can be quite the prophet. I personally am banging the wall for a star in the backfield because I would like to see him pass less. Sorta like Big Ben his first few years in the league.
February 9th, 2017 at 11:57 am
83 passes to RB…..116 passes to TE…372 passes to WR. That’s why the Bucs want Speedy WRs so bad. Over 65% of their passes goes to WRs, and we talk about accuracy. We just have to throw the ball 20 yards up the field. We just don’t believe in * taking what the defense give us*. We just feel the need to force the ball to WRs in double coverage. Hump is not a legitimate * Number 2 WR” according to some posters, because he don’t stretch the field. We don’t need 4.2 WRs to stretch the field, we need 2-3 more WRs like Hump, who can move the chains. And add a 3 down back, who can run,block and catch.
February 9th, 2017 at 12:10 pm
Future is bright here in Tampa folks. Let’s get him some weapons so we can take over the league.
February 9th, 2017 at 12:55 pm
Tampa Tony, I honestly think Bucs fans (and others) keep forgetting just how young Jameis is. He got 2 yrs of college ball then turned pro and started right away (personally don’t think that combination is a very good thing … would rather see either 1 more yr experience at the college level OR give him the opportunity to learn for at least 1 yr behind an experienced QB).
Far as I’m concerned, Jameis improved quite a bit in 2016 vs 2015, despite the Bucs OLine not doing as good a job of protecting him or blocking for the running game last year as it did in 2015. His pass completions improved by over 2% last year (from 58.3% in 2015 to 60.8% in 2016) … despite having a marginal WR corps, 1 possession TE & a myriad of RBs last yr. He threw for 28 TDs last yr vs 22 the yr before … progress. Almost every measurable parameter improved (OK, he did throw 3 more INTs last yr than in 2015 … but we also won 3 more games). Jameis IS improving, and there shouldn’t be any doubt in anyone’s mind that he’s a franchise QB. But he’s still young and will keep improving, as long as Bucs surround him with better weapons and improve the OLine to protect him better and improve the run game (to keep the defenses back on their heels).
February 9th, 2017 at 2:26 pm
*Former Pro Bowl alternate
February 9th, 2017 at 3:22 pm
I think Jameis biggest problem is the play calling. I don’t see the logic of having a 22 year old QB, throwing over 65% of his passes to WRs.
February 9th, 2017 at 5:01 pm
@defenserules-the completion percentage going up is a good sign but could be attributed to Mike Evans not dropping so many passes. Jameis had at least 1 turnover in 13 of 16 games. I’m a league where the margin out victory is so slim he needs to stop giving the other team an extra possession and free points.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:35 pm
I still can’t believe that the Joe’s like our offensive line and consider them good. Boggles the mind.
February 9th, 2017 at 9:45 pm
Brace yourself: So do the Bucs.
February 10th, 2017 at 8:10 am
So Tampa Tony the corporate trainer understands the QB position better than NFL coaches, NFL players, and the rest of the NFL world. Wow, the Bucs could save a ton of money by hiring this guy. I guess you would have cut Brett Favre as well.
February 10th, 2017 at 10:39 am
Joe get it together!!! What does Brady have for WR. A bunch of 3rd slot receivers. We have Mike freakin Evans. Who’s massive passing window makes #3 look better than he is. I say take it easy in free agency. Lets not handcuff ourself’s with high priced free agents. Next year when we come to the realisation than #3 is to inaccurate. To lead this team anywhere.
February 10th, 2017 at 11:36 am
Let’s put this “he’s young” garbage to bed. RG3, Luck, Ryan, Rothesberger,Foles,Freeman,Newton,Tannahill ect. All played as good in the first couple years. As they ever have. Look at Freeman”s 2nd year as a 21 yo. This is Winston he won’t change!!! A gunslinger that is to inaccurate to be a gunslinger. He played s best last season when the defence was playing lights out. He was asked to be a game manager. Koetter would not let #3 hand the game over on a silver platter. I’m convinced #3 was threatened to be benched. If he couldn’t play smarter.
February 10th, 2017 at 1:18 pm
lol @ “America’s QB”… last I checked he was also #2 on the list of most despised players in America (behind Colin Kaepernick).