The War On John Lynch
January 8th, 2017
Something rotten is in the air, and it’s being spread by Peter King of Sports Illustrated and NBC Sports Fame.
Bucs fans know very well that iconic safety John Lynch is a fourth-time finalist again for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The annual convening and vote by the esteemed panel is the day before the Super Bowl in Houston.
The Tampa Bay area has one voting representative. He’s JoeBucsFan.com columnist Ira Kaufman, who will make the case (again) for Lynch.
But it’s not as simple as presenting a player. There’s plenty of politics involved. And Joe is troubled and worried.
King, a big national voice who does loads of national interviews and has plenty of pull, seems to be lobbying for first-time Hall finalist Brian Dawkins, the big-time Eagles safety who retired in 2011.
Check out King’s Tweet below:
Wide open. LT, and then great candidates. Hope we advance the cause of under-repped position, safety, this year w/men like Brian Dawkins. https://t.co/BvpEvARCHE
— Peter King (@peter_king) January 5, 2017
Joe sees that as King pitching Dawkins to his 1.8 million Twitter followers. How it could it be viewed differently? And does that mean King will pass on Lynch?
Listeners of The Ira Kaufman Podcast (with Joe and Ira) know that Kaufman believes Lynch seriously needs to get in the Hall this year because of guys like Randy Moss, Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher eligible next season, in addition to Ronde Barber and others.
Joe doesn’t like the smell of King’s Tweet, and Kaufman should be inhaling it and planning accordingly.
January 8th, 2017 at 9:51 am
Steve Atwater belongs in hall before both Lynch and Dawkins. Hall of fame lost all credibility putting Dungy an unqualified coach with a career losing playoff record in over Tom Flores first minority to win a super bowl and has better stats. Hall of fame is a joke just like pro bowls
January 8th, 2017 at 9:54 am
Steve Atwater was special teams ace…….that’s his problem with HOF voters
January 8th, 2017 at 9:55 am
Tmaxcon is on point as always!! I was just looking at Atwater’s Stats and I hit refresh and there it is!!! I well written, well thought out, short but concise Truth!!!!!!
Nice job sir!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2017 at 9:55 am
Don’t forget the Rock n Roll Hall of Shame.
January 8th, 2017 at 9:58 am
It’s historically been proven how hard it is for DBs to get into the HOF
January 8th, 2017 at 10:01 am
The political side of the NFL is a $hithole. I think Lynch should get nod because he helped close the Vet! Take that Philly fan. lol Im not sure his marketing machine will be good enough. I think guys like John don’t need media acknowledgement to understand their place in NFL history.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Right on point Tmax! I lost all respect for the hall when Dungy got in. I like Dungy and I am certainly not a hater but he is def not HOF material.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:20 am
Buc believer Says:
January 8th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Right on point Tmax! I lost all respect for the hall when Dungy got in. I like Dungy and I am certainly not a hater but he is def not HOF material.
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I kinda agree with you
….but then I also don’t
Dungy was so good for so long and he did it with two teams too…..
BUT…..Dungy also had multiple HOF players and a tree of later HCs in the NFL….
……the man was a master motivator….you gotta atleast give em that
January 8th, 2017 at 10:21 am
With every passing year, both the useless popularity contest Pro Bowl and the highly-politicized, sportswriter-driven HOF fade a little in the national sports conscience. And well they should. Fewer and fewer people care anything about awards and recognition from the community of talking heads and analysts whose job is to create interest in such parasitic side work.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:26 am
It sucks that dawkins is a nom the same time as Lynch. Hearing sports talk a lot of people have Dawkins ahead of Lynch, but have neither as HoFers.
I think both deserve it tbh. Both were at the top of their position for a very long time. Both were well respected by their peers and opposing coaching staffs. Both could knock the snot out of you, or ball hawk and take it to the house. 2 very special players. No doubt in my mind really that both deserve a gold jacket.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:30 am
Dungy is so overrated. The fact that he pushed Lovie Smith down the Glaszers throat is reason alone to void his membership in the HOF. vDecision like this set the Bucs back a decade.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:31 am
If dungy had won a superbowl with the bucs and colts, then i would say he deserves it. Or maybe even just took the bucs to the superbowl. take 2 teams to the superbowl. Then i would be impressed. But even with all of the success the bucs had under dungy, not going to a superbowl is a huge red mark. Eveuone knows regular season record means nothing. It is what you did in the playoffs and in championship games that really matters.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:35 am
To be clear I’m not a dungy hater that being said his popularity is the only reason he’s in hall there are at least 5 coaches with better resumes. Is the hall of fame for the best of the best or the nicest guy.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:39 am
I’m a Bucs fans thru and thru but one of my friends said it best “Does a team with one title deserve to have 3 or 4 players from their d in the HOF?”
Hard to think defense’s with multiple players in the HOF usually have multiple titles not just one. I’d love for lynch to get in but doubt both he and barber get in. That’s a lot of accolades from a underachieving team
January 8th, 2017 at 10:51 am
the media, sports and news media have had zero credibility for decades now what makes any of you think these dinosaurs would get the Hall of Fame right. It’s just a bunch of soon to be out of work old media types sitting around blowing smoke up each other’s butts to feel important while their jobs are disappearing faster than GMC in a second half of an important game.. hall of fame is a joke and has been.
January 8th, 2017 at 10:52 am
I don’t know if Lynch will ever get in. He is the face of an old era that the nfl would like to pretend never happened. He is the reason for all these weak rules that avoid contact. To say he is the best of the best is like admitting that was good football. It’s sad, but that’s what I think goes down. Same with atwater.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:14 am
Lynch doesn’t deserve it ahead of Rice. But all you 45 wearing jerseys won’t admit it. I like Lynch, but no way he goes in ahead of somebody that was more dominant at his position. He knocked some people out, not even top 5 in ints all time list. He’s on TV, he’s a pretty boy and we’ve got his sound bites from the Super Bowl.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:19 am
No lynch and how dungy got in is craxy.. joe jacoby should be in, but lynch NO WAY
January 8th, 2017 at 11:20 am
Ronde IMHO should get in but not lynch nor dungy
January 8th, 2017 at 11:22 am
Get your numbers right before you clown people Chris Lynch wore #47. If Neon Deon with his no heart wont tackle self made it in then Lynch deserves to get in
January 8th, 2017 at 11:24 am
duthsty rhothdes is right!!! My favorite player of the old days Rhonde Barber will be the next HOF player to go in from the Bucs!!!!!
January 8th, 2017 at 11:24 am
Chris, you would think someone who rags on Lynch would at least know his number. Don’t tell us it’s a mis type. 5 isn’t next to 7 on the keyboard.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:40 am
Any player in the Ring of Honor for two different teams deserves to be in the HOF. Dungy had HOF players in Tampa and a HOF QB in Indy. He wasn’t the reason they were HOF level players. They would have been that without him. Without them he would never have even been nominated. Nice guy, but not a HOF HC IMO. He did assembly one really great coaching staff in Tampa, at least on defense. Jim Caldwell and Peyton Manning solved that problem for him in Indy.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:40 am
Peter King is such a bafooned ass tool.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:53 am
Hmm Anthem, “the man was a master motivator”
I wish Mr. Dungy would have masterfully motivated his Offense players and coaches like he did with the Defence while here with the Bucs. Mr. Dungy should have stayed with Les Steckel and built on his Buccaneer record of 388 points in the 2000 season. 2001 brought a new Offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen who had a point total of 324 a 64 point difference. Oh what might have been.
Mr. Lynch should make the Hall of Fame he was a player you had to account for every game. He might not make it this year or next but he will make it. My fingers are crossed. Go John Lynch!
January 8th, 2017 at 1:28 pm
I don’t see why Ken Riley is not in the Hall of Fame, with 65 career INT. I don’t see how Simeon Rice has not advance to the finals. And how did Joe Namath get in with a 50.2 comp rate, 27,663 passing yards, 173 TD, 220 INT with a 60-61-4 record as a starter?
January 8th, 2017 at 1:48 pm
Bite me Lynch lovers, what the hell did he do in the Super Bowl, other than sound bites? I like Lynch, but through hype over him. Rematch the Super Bowl again clowns, he helped shut down Charlie Garner and Zack Crockett as well. Sorry if I hurt your man love for Lynch, there’s just many others who deserve to get in ahead of him, including his own teammates. Rice was dominant, you could never, ever block in him one on one, was Lynch dominant? No.
January 8th, 2017 at 1:48 pm
Yeah and apologies for his number mix up, I know it’s 47.
January 8th, 2017 at 2:31 pm
Tmaxcon you really don’t like mccoy lol. I can’t help but everytime i read your comments you always seem to take a shot at him.
January 8th, 2017 at 3:24 pm
Tampa Tony Says:
January 8th, 2017 at 10:39 am
I’m a Bucs fans thru and thru but one of my friends said it best “Does a team with one title deserve to have 3 or 4 players from their d in the HOF?”
Hard to think defense’s with multiple players in the HOF usually have multiple titles not just one. I’d love for lynch to get in but doubt both he and barber get in. That’s a lot of accolades from a underachieving team
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This is an argument for not letting dungy in. He had up to 6 HOF caliber players on defense, yet he couldnt even take them to the superbowl. And you can not blame the lack of superbowls on that defense. Not even a little bit. Dungy failed to get a respectable offense on the field and motivate his team to get over the hump.
January 8th, 2017 at 4:26 pm
Without Dungy there is no Tampa 2. Period. Sapp was sliding in the draft and Brooks was considered an under sized LB. Ronde fit the Scheme perfectly. Hate on Dungy all you want but the man built the defense. To take us from the Yucs to the Bucs was hall of fame worthy by itself probably. Yes he is a Hall of famer.
January 8th, 2017 at 4:27 pm
It was HIS system they was drafted for and develop in.
January 8th, 2017 at 4:29 pm
I agree with Chris. Simeon Rice deserves it more.
January 8th, 2017 at 5:09 pm
Since Tony Dungy is in the HOF, then Jon Gruden should get in. Before he came here, he had Oakland competing for a Super Bowl. Of course, once the Glazers gave up their possessions to get him, he accomplished what many dirtb@gs said would never happen (the Bucs winning the Super Bowl). Even having to deal with terrible Cap Space, Gruden was able to have 3 winning seasons, and 2 Division Titles.
January 8th, 2017 at 5:13 pm
@Buc Fan in NYC
what are you talking about????
J Lynch drafted 1993
W Sapp drafted 1995
D Brooks drafted 1995
Coach Dungy hired in 1996!!!!!!
January 8th, 2017 at 6:20 pm
I guess monte kiffin just sat back and let dungy do the defense…
January 8th, 2017 at 6:23 pm
Tony is a cover 2 guy. But Kiffin created the tampa 2. Cover 2 and Tampa 2 are nit the same thing. Monte made that defense tony just watched it.
January 8th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
There is no way the Yankee sports media puts anymore Buccaneers into the HOF. In their minds we got our two from ’02 now shut up.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
I think Ronde goes in James, but you’re right. Especially Rice after Sapp blew up their guy for being less worthy than Rice. No way Yankee media let’s in anymore
January 8th, 2017 at 11:03 pm
And dang I’ve got to watch my responses, frigging Galaxy word predictor I’m not use to.
January 8th, 2017 at 11:55 pm
The Cover 2 – was actually Created by Bud Carson/Woody Widenhofer
Case In Point
Bud Carson Defensive Coordinator
• 1972-1977
Woody Widenhofer Linebackers Coach/ Defensive Coordinator
• 1973-1983
Tony Dungy played under Bud Carson/ Woody Widenhofer
• 1977 – 1979
Dungy was Defensive Asst./Defensive Back Coach/Defensive Coordinator in Pittsburgh from
• 1981 – 1988
January 9th, 2017 at 12:14 am
Still shocks me that neither…
• Lester Hayes
• Don “Air” Coryell
• Deron Cherry
• Albert Lewis
..are not in
January 9th, 2017 at 2:09 am
Should never be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
January 9th, 2017 at 9:43 am
Listen to you guys bashing Dungy. It’s hilarious.
I think it’s pretty evident why Dungy is in the HOF. No it’s not because of his numbers.
It’s because he is the first African American to win a Super Bowl and for that reason alone, I strongly agree with the decision to place him there.
Come on guys. I’m sure you have something negative to say about him still……