Koetter Confidante Tips Cap To DeSean Jackson
January 28th, 2017
Could DeSean Jackson master Dirk Koetter’s offense?
Bucs fans would be overcome with excitement if electric, separation-master Redskins receiver DeSean Jackson landed with Tampa Bay in free agency.
Yesterday, a Dirk Koetter confidant tipped his cap to Jackson.
Joe’s talking about Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, a close friend of Koetter and the man currently leading the AFC squad at the Pro Bowl at Disney World.
Joe talked to Reid yesterday, and during a chat with Joe about speedster rookie Tyreek Hill, Reid rolled into talk about Jackson without being asked.
Reid, who drafted Jackson and coached him with the Eagles from 2008-2013, emphasized the intelligence of Jackson.
“The nitty-gritty of learning is very easy for him,” Reid said.
The way Reid spoke of Jackson was impressive. In fact, Jackson went out of his way to throw love at Reid when the Eagles let him walk after the 2013 season.
Joe was mostly interested in Reid making it clear that Jackson has high football intelligence and is a quick-study. That’s another box checked in his favor — if the loaded-at-receiver Redskins let him walk after a 56-catch, 1,000-yard season.
January 28th, 2017 at 8:24 am
Any receiver with blazing speed who can catch is welcome and needed here in Tampa.
LOL, I was listening to some sports radio talk about Pittsburg’s Antonio Brown going to the Bucs next year.
January 28th, 2017 at 8:28 am
Jackson, Garcon, or Britt would be my first target this offseason
January 28th, 2017 at 8:29 am
Joes must be friends w DJax agent drumming up competition to get philly to pay top $, djax putting band back together on broad st
January 28th, 2017 at 8:41 am
I’ll take him, but still draft one pretty damn high.
January 28th, 2017 at 8:48 am
Agreed. Because of he’s injury prone and 30, they better draft someone.
January 28th, 2017 at 8:58 am
Jackson would be a huge asset to the team, but just in case we can’t land him, we can still add some weapons for Winston on offense. If I was Jason Licht, here’s what my first 3 rounds of the Draft would look like……
Round 1: OJ Howard TE, he’s a big (6″5′) pass catching TE with good hands, can run after catch, and is a decent blocker on the line. Pair him with Brate in 2 TE sets! (He could be the next Jason Witten) Round 2: D’onta Foreman RB, he’s a huge (6″1′, 250lb) downhill power runner with surprising shiftiness and speed for an “Earl Campbell” sized back. He’d be a great 1-2 punch along with Quizz Rodgers…..Round 3: Noah Brown WR, I’d love Brown’s OH St. teammate Curtis Samuel more here, but he’ll be gone by now. Brown is a big (6″2′) sure handed receiver with good speed. He would be our “Mohamed Sanu” to Evans Julio Jones.
If “Weapons 4 Winston” is the name of the game, these guys would certainly add some juice to the offense!
January 28th, 2017 at 8:58 am
He is going back to eagles folks
January 28th, 2017 at 9:16 am
Haha Bird is most likely correct if we get him it will probably mean we over paid for him.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:19 am
If there is any way that we could land Calais Campbell and T. Pryor in F.A. then the Draft just became a Whole lot easier.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:25 am
I realize that this year’s draft is loaded with RB’s. The WR’s at the top leave me meh…I just do not see any JJ’s or Amari’s or Mike Evans. MAYBE Corey Davis is the next Antonio Brown? MAYBE!
On the RB side however you have as close to a lock as you can get…Dalvin…Fournette…Mixon…even Foreman all excite me.
And I get the argument that you can find a running back in the later rounds…I’m too lazy to line up all the examples but the same can be said for WR’s as well…again see Antonio Brown!
Desean Jackson would free us to go after that bumper crop of RB’s. MOST not all of the great WR’s AND RB’s go in the first. Where did we get Doug?
Sign Jackson!
January 28th, 2017 at 9:30 am
@Stpete
“And I get the argument that you can find a running back in the later rounds…I’m too lazy to line up all the examples but the same can be said for WR’s as well”
Completely agree with this statement. Draft BPA round 1 and address WR and RB on Day 2.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:38 am
And if its not Dalvin I’m in favor of Bucky Brooks choice on his mock Derek Barnett.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:40 am
Just for the sake of God no WR or TE in the first. This real life not Madden.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:41 am
Stpetebucsfan:
I Agree, We are going to argue from now until the draft over our #19 pick. If we take Jackson in FA, that sets in motion an opportunity to get the RB we want, and then in Rounds 2 through 7 we have plenty of latitude to fill back-up needs or go BA. Like you I am lazy. Additionally I have never favored drafting a WR in RD1 and this years top WR with exception of Williams and possibly Smith all look like mid-rounders from past years.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:45 am
But seeing how Bucky Brooks has Dalvin falling to 21 that’s make me wonder if a team that is starved for offensive talent would actually pass on him for a DE??? USF told y’all about the article depicting teams leaning towards the offensive side of the ball. 30 point offense is the new defense. Ask Belichess that’s why he got rid of Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins. Best two pass rusher don’t need’em. They choke you out in the red zone and Brady puts up 30.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:47 am
@Nole Are you saying, that in your opinion, A team should not have more than one legit Receiving weapon?
How does having a full stable of targets for your for your QB = Madden?
January 28th, 2017 at 9:48 am
@NosBos this should give you an Idea of How Accurate Bucky Brooks is.
http://www.titansonline.com/video/videos/Bucky-Brooks-2016-Mock-Draft-50/a79bf4f5-b551-4df0-8ccf-57bc3c3f8b23
January 28th, 2017 at 9:49 am
2014 was the only year I was cool wit taking a WR in rd1 because that was once in generation class of WRs and needed a #1 and I wanted ME. When the Bills traded up from 9 to 5(giving up only the years 1st to do so) I almost wet my pants thinking they were targeting ME.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:51 am
I told yesterday fella Ion need us looking like jville dude. Two great WRs and no run game, pointless. We have great #1 we need a solid #2. He can be found in the second.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:52 am
Weren’t you the one comparing Williams to JJ, and Corey Davis was gonna be AB 2.0? Now the Draft class is garbage?
Also Cooper Kupp Lighting up the Senior Bowl, and depending on his combine/ 40 time could elevate himself to a 1st rounder.
O.J. Howard is doing the same thing in Bama as well. Showing off his Matchup Nightmare traits.
1st round pick should be BPA that also fills a need.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:53 am
As far as Bucky gose I’ll trust his analysis over yours anyday. You a hate monger I have little respect for anything you say dude.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:56 am
Find another partner dude.. Mad at me cause not only will he not be drafted by the Bucs but mixon won’t be drsfted period. I saw you little comment about how heart broke you’ll be. Cry a river mutha—-.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:57 am
YOU said that, I never did. I said that Jacksonville sucks because of their Offensive line and their QB, their Defense was one of the worst in the league too.
You were the one that was saying that the only good part about there team was the reason they were losing. I would never say something so ludicrous.
Do you not remember what it was like to have to play against Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Tony Gonzalez all at the same time? It was nightmare inducing.
Oh and who was the Falcons leading rushing that season where the DirtyBirds came 10 yards away from the Super bowl with Smitty and Dirk at the Helm?
None other than Quizz Rodgers.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:58 am
man, you need to learn how to read.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:58 am
Because I clearly said I would not be heartbroken.
January 28th, 2017 at 9:59 am
@Nosbos
Of all the pass rushers mocked to us Barnett might be the best. I would be shocked if he fell to us. And I agree that WR would be better addressed in Round 2 and I think we know each others opinions on RBs lol
I mentioned this on the Desean Jackson article. According to Pewter Report (and I know how some of you guys feel about that site lol) apparently Josh Reynolds, Senior Bowl standout, wants to play for the Bucs and play with another A&M receiver Mike Evans and Mike Evans is pounding the table for the Bucs to get him. Havent watched much of him yet but according to what I read the only knock on him is his weight (6′ 2 3/4″ 189 lbs). If he can get up to 200 lbs would love to get him round 2
January 28th, 2017 at 10:00 am
Turns out I’m on the Desean Jackson article lmao. Thought I was still on the Mike Evans one lmao
January 28th, 2017 at 10:00 am
Mike evans and Mike evans? lol
January 28th, 2017 at 10:09 am
Yea didnt put much thought into that comment lol. Im supposed to be working. Reynolds says he wants to play opposite Mike Evans. Apparently Mike Evans also wants to play with Josh Reynolds. Could be a good tandem
January 28th, 2017 at 10:11 am
I’ll have to check him out on Draftbreakdown
January 28th, 2017 at 10:20 am
I’ve been looking at draft boards to see WR’s beneath the top 4 or 5 who have speed.
I think OSU’s Curtis Samuel might be an intriguing prospect. He has Percy Harvin like skills…played some RB but will be primarily a WR in the NFL…although someone like Koetter would use his versatility just as he would have Harvin.
I just texted my son in Columbus who goes to the OSU game and asked about him. He gave me an honest opinion on Pryor…thinks he’s a #3 WR…I’m curious to see what he says about Samuel.
I LUST for one thing in our next WR and RB choices….SPEED…BURST…I want both positions filled with 4.4 guys not 4.55 guys…Foreman excepted because he’s a bruising runner at 250 who is the best blocker in the class.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:25 am
@Stpete I’m right there with you dude. We need speed, and more importantly, we need explosive playmakers. I’ve been Lobbying for Curtis Samuel as a day WR prospect recently myself. It’s not unrealistic to compare him to a Harvin or a Hill type player. He’s certainly got the Juice. He shows a lot of grit/ concentration on contested catches, as well running some pretty sharp routes in the slot. Additionally, I think he would add some much needed versatility to our Offense.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:25 am
a day *2* prospect
January 28th, 2017 at 10:26 am
I agree Pop. Fake evaluator who you talkin to???
January 28th, 2017 at 10:30 am
^
An illiterate fanboy.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:42 am
Stpetebucsfan:
Once again I Agree. The last time I think we had any raw speed on this team may have been Joey Galloway. But then I’m old and my memory tends to drift. Nonetheless I sure as hell haven’t seen any in the last five years, and there is not a dam thing wrong with my short term memory. There are some burners out there and Jameis needs them. We should be able with all our cap room, be able to add some this year and if we don’t someone needs to find another gig.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:43 am
I heard a very sad rumor that Cleveland isgoing to be franchising T Pryor this year…
Pryor is already a better receiver than Deshaun Jackson and he’s been a receiver for like a year and a half.
Any speed is welcomed, though.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:49 am
@Blake
I will be watching Reynolds on there as well. Just reading about him makes me excited to see him in the Senior Bowl today.
January 28th, 2017 at 10:56 am
I don’t see pass rusher as a position of need that is worthy of a 1st round pick…
We have Jack Smith and Howard Jones coming back from injury next year (who are both loved within the organization for their pass rush capabilities).
Noah Spence, Robert Ayers, Will Gholston, Jack Smith, Howard Jones at DE is a pretty darn solid group of DE’s.
Don’t see us adding a high-value pick to that group.
Maybe FA Calais Campbell if we can get him, but I think we’re pretty satisfied with our personnel there.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:02 am
Forget Jackson. He’s getting up there, he doesn’t go over the middle. He will pout and cry when #3 misses him with passes. He takes plays, weeks heck years off. No need to pay a cancer a ton of cash. See deshean Goldson
January 28th, 2017 at 11:10 am
And you jbf’s phony version of Ted Thompson so I guess we both even. And ya boy won’t be getting drafted.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:12 am
Wanna make another bet that Joe Mixon definitely gets drafted in the first 3 rounds?
I’ll put down 100 clams right now bro.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:16 am
I give a rats about who was then fella, different team different organization doofus. The player personnel he had them has absolutely nothing to do with what Koetter has going on here in Tampa brightboy. Quizz was acquired off the street smarty. Were it not for Dougie’s short comings none of us would’ve ever even uttered the words Jac Rodgers last season.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:18 am
I feel like betting you is useless. You don’t come across to me like the type that would actually pay up. But yea if you want it its a bet dude.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:21 am
Paying off bets is nothing to me. When I lose I seek out the people I owe bro. Reason being I don’t want anyone thinking I’m dodging them over a few petty dollas.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:26 am
And if you really man enough the bet is him going or not going in 3rd. Me saying he won’t get drafted has nothing to do with it. So if he gose say in the 4th you still lose. Compremde’???
January 28th, 2017 at 11:42 am
100 it is. The bet is on.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:42 am
Sorry NOS I think Blake might win it. It will be close though.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:43 am
That’s a bet 87.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:44 am
No need for any sorry’s 87. I ain seen Ray Rice since.
January 28th, 2017 at 11:57 am
I’m trying not to mention the Greg Hardy case. Yea Jerry Jones took a flyer on him and we all saw thw results. He was the only owner that would’ve took a chance and it back fired. Derrik Brooks said during his interview process they brought up a fight he got into when he was in 4th grade. Say it blew his mind. Fight was with another boy. Not saying the young doesn’t deserve a chance but why draft you when I can bring you in as a undrafted free agent afterwards.
January 28th, 2017 at 12:12 pm
Alright its a bet. And I don’t care if I have to meet you in person to collect my winnings.
But lets clarify the terms of the bet. I am wagering that he will be drafted at any point between rounds 1-3. Any thing outside the first and you win.
January 28th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
crap
not the first, anything outside the 3rd. Comprende?
January 28th, 2017 at 12:38 pm
Deal dude.
January 28th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
I’m just shaking my head. It’s literally as if no one understands the “those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it” saying. Where exactly is the prime example of a team signing a 31 year old receiver reliant on speed to pair up with a very young QB and that working out and leading to a chip? Maybe some of the pages are missing from my history book, but I don’t see it.
Signing Desean Jackson is the EXACT type of move that BAD teams make. The Bucs have such a rare opportunity, an opportunity they have NEVER had in their entire history. They can go out and draft a young receiver that can grow and build chemistry with Jameis and Evans for the next DECADE. To not do that is akin to complete and utter negligence. To start chasing guys on the verge of losing a step because they were really explosive a few years ago is dumb and bush league.
It’s time for the Bucs to build a talented and sustainable core for the long haul. Hopefully Licht sees the Licht when it comes to this.
January 28th, 2017 at 12:52 pm
Remember when Jon Gruden said that Jackson was too small to draft, then he went and drafted the crappy Dexter Jackson? WTF
January 28th, 2017 at 1:14 pm
Preach Tony!!! Damn near had tears trickling down my cheek as I read that. Lets get the best OLineman, and some defensive stars in FA. Spending big money in FA is fine if its a stud.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:26 pm
Where exactly is the prime example of a team signing a 31 year old receiver reliant on speed to pair up with a very young QB and that working out and leading to a chip?
Uh Tony are you serious. I don’t even have to go outside of the Bucs to answer that one although I’m sure there are other teams who could provide answers.
Can you say Joey Galloway? How quickly we forget…
He turned 33! during his first season with us!
He tore his ACL in his first game with the Cowboys…before he even came to us.
His first season with us he injured his groin missed the first six games…and old WR in his early 30’s…we made a bad decision eh?
Galloway is the quintessential example of writing a player off due to age and injury before he’s finished. In his second season with us Galloway at the age of 35 by seasons end had his career year! 83 passes for 1237 yards. Most importantly he forced other D’s to account for him on the back end because he could still fly.
He had two more good seasons with us after that and as someone has posted…name a single receiver since him that could get behind a secondary!
I say…let’s grab another OSU guy in Samuels…but my point is more about Jackson and perhaps even AP….YES…old guys come with warnings…but they are NOT always over the hill. They are all individuals and it’s stupid to not take advantage of someone if they still have some tread left.
By ALL accounts Desean Jackson can still get separation. I like him as a bridge player.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:46 pm
@Stpete Great post gramps! Lol jk but seriously you were on point. And I agree completely, Desean Jackson has shown no signs of slowing down. And his presence would be yet another example of a bridge veteran. Having him in the training room, and on the practice field, would provide an example of how to prepare like the best.
Sign AP, Draft Joe Mixon/D’ontaa Foreman
Sign DJax, Draft Curtis Samuel/ Cooper Kupp/ Dede Westbrook
If we could do that stuff, and sign say, Calais Campbell & JPP… We could become a force instantaneously.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:46 pm
I see you both Pete and Tony.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:51 pm
Ted Thompson you come with a rather large grocery list. Still wondering why exactly you hopped off the Fournette train??? Could it be his diva like attributes being discussed on the other thread. Guess only you’ll ever know. You good at mocking “If’s”. But realistically your mentions sound as if you’ve just put down the controller to your favorite video game console and began typing.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:58 pm
Ok… I’ve already said that once I learned that Leo Fournette could potentially have a “Loose ankle” and that soured me a bit. That and I’m almost certain he will be a top 10 pick.
And I’m just laying out what my ideal scenario would be. Ya dingus. You know, Discussing possibilities and such.
January 28th, 2017 at 1:59 pm
and when i write x/y/z I’m not saying get all of those players.
i’m saying get one or the other.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:12 pm
Ohhh okay I got you. That Mixon/Foreman idea sounds like St.Pete’s vision tho. So you basically just in favor of the idea huh??? Okay. Just seem like you have many ideas and are opposed to mines because I simply have one. A guy You have some strange animosity towards. So you don’t like Howard anymore why??? Because people are speaking against it. I respect those who have a belief unconcerned about whether or not it is favoured by the masses.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:15 pm
87 believes I’ll everyday tire I’m like big homie must be smoking. I’ve been slugging the Dalvin horn “sense” day one and won’t sound another until my RB1 position is addressed.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:25 pm
Its senior bowl time, lets go Cooper Kupp. I’ll Give you some cred,I believe you were the first to mention him Ted😉.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:39 pm
Still Love O.J. Dude, I’m just worried that he may improve his stock so much today, that he will become a top 15 pick. Because he’s that good.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:39 pm
I also keep an open mind.
And won’t have a 100 percent Definitive target until April.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:40 pm
Solid Return by Kupp.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:48 pm
They say Kupp didn’t drop a pass all week and his numbers against power conferences were outstanding. I’m feeling that kid.
January 28th, 2017 at 2:58 pm
Holy Cow, Dan Feeney is a beast.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:04 pm
I have a question Ted. What exactly about Mixon’s game leads you to believe he’s the next Leveon Bell??? I don’t see the comparison bro. Does he pause at the line of scrimmage the way Bell does??? Because that’s his signature. If you’re saying they’re both dual threats I get it but other than that how exactly do they compare??? Do you realize how huge Bell is??? And how is it I’m off basis for comparing Dalvin to Faulk,Charles and McCoy but you are allowed to compare a guy that won’t get drafted to Leveon Bell a guy that went in what round???
January 28th, 2017 at 3:08 pm
Oh I’m wrong I see the measurable are alike. Okay I can see how you would say they are the same.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:12 pm
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/joe-mixon-vs-auburn-2016/
Joe Mixon and Le’veon have simalar frames. With Mixon being slightly smaller.
They are both incredibly patient runners between the tackles, and they both have a combination of attributes that make them incredibly Dangerous. Both of them are 6’1, Bell weighs 230, Mixon is 225. They have burst, break away speed, Power, Catching ability, the can block, they make people miss behind the line. And they both have out of this world vision and patience. If you can’t see that it’s not my fault.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:14 pm
Another thing too, they both run with an attitude. And fight through tackles, as if they refused to be taken down. Attitude is a desired quality for Running backs in my mind.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
I can see you posted some more opinionated bs as usual. Its cool tho I’ve grown use to it Ted… So the Falcons and Patriots are the number 1 and 2 scoring offense in the NFL. I’ll continue saying it 30 point offense is the new defense.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:19 pm
Didn’t look like Bell on that video you pisted the other day to me. Which is currently in my mind not saying much. Bell look real beastly against everyone all year but came up really small when facing the Pats. Was he really injured last week maybe I suppose.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:20 pm
K.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:47 pm
Josh Reynolds making money out there.
January 28th, 2017 at 3:51 pm
Yea man Reynolds is looking good. That end around to him was just a dumb idea lol
January 28th, 2017 at 4:30 pm
They could a do better job of getting these guys from the lesser name schools more involved. Seem like to me every drop back is targeting cats from bigger name schools. What a crock for those young men.
January 28th, 2017 at 5:16 pm
Was about to type the exact same post StPete. Guess that dude in LA hasn’t been watching football the last 20 years. There are plenty of recievers in their 30s that have played extremely well and Galloway is a perfect example. He was fun to watch while in Tampa and could definitely take the top off. Yeah pairing Galloway 2.0 with Jameis and Evans would be just awful. What a horrible post by LA.
January 28th, 2017 at 5:59 pm
Uh Stpete, are YOU serious?
Did you read my question?
Did you read it fully?
How many playoff games did the Bucs win with Galloway? My question stated quite specifically has that type of signing ever led to a chip or even some playoff success. Don’t be dumb man. Overpaying for Djax when the draft has numerous elite weapons 10 years younger AND cheaper is asinine, stupid, and what losing teams do.
EVERY team has somebody that puts up numbers. It doesn’t mean they are great.
January 28th, 2017 at 6:32 pm
Hey LA, the Bucs have the usual 7 draft picks, the last 4 or so are complete crapshoot. Free agents can be invaluable to a team. So I guess you would have passed on Grimes and Ayers last year two. If you say yes you’re a fool, and if you say no then your statement is proven to be ludicrous!
January 28th, 2017 at 7:04 pm
Does anyone like the RB James Connor out of Pitt in a later round?
January 28th, 2017 at 7:16 pm
Ima check him out 37. Altho after Charles Sims I get a little squeamish when I hear RB and later rounds in the same sentence.
January 28th, 2017 at 7:23 pm
It just sucks that he such a D}€M…. He has got all the skills we are looking for though
January 28th, 2017 at 8:51 pm
Tony
Don’t be dumb man. Overpaying for Djax when the draft has numerous elite weapons 10 years younger AND cheaper is asinine, stupid, and what losing teams do.
Do you suppose ANY single player is going to get us into the playoffs much less win a SB. #3 comes as close to any player but NO FREAKING WR is going to land a team in the SB…they are complimentary pieces. I don’t call anybody here dumb.
I want you to name any SINGLE player we can sign that will be held singly accountable for playoffs as you just did Galloway. He gave us three very good years.
By your logic Tony EVERY player since the SB has failed to “produce a chip” so they were all bad?
January 28th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
Kenny stills or cordalle patterson or britt