Aguayo Finishes 36 Percent From 40+ Yards
January 1st, 2017
No range. No consistency.
What an ugly preseason and regular season it was for El Asesino, Roberto Aguayo, the Bucs rookie kicker leading the league in causing sporadic fits of rage and holes punched in walls.
Aguayo finished the 2016 season 4-for-11 in field goal attempts of 40 yards or more. His longest converted? Just 43 yards.
Aguayo surely wasn’t all bad, but as kickers go he was bad this season. Joe will give him a “D” grade.
On extra points, Aguayo was average among his kicking brethren with a 95 percent conversion rate. Not bad at all.
But on field goals, Aguayo proved nothing. He showed no range or consistency, including a 46-yard miss today that drew the ire of Bucs fans, followed by a blocked 48-yarder in the fourth quarter.
Can Aguayo kick field goals at the NFL level? The Bucs have no answer to that after 16 games.
Big decision this offseason for Dirk Koetter and general manager Jason Licht. This year, they thought it was best to have no competition — or even phony competition — in training camp for Aguayo.
Was that wise? Will Koetter agree to that again?
Joe is not calling to cut Aguayo here. There is no point. But it would feel irresponsible for the Bucs to put 100 percent faith in the guy for next season.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:24 pm
Daaaaammmmmm
January 1st, 2017 at 4:25 pm
I hope he gets this fixed in the offseason.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:25 pm
Agree Joe. We don’t cut him but he has to earn his spot next year. One year grace period is enough.
Sign some talent have a kicking competition in training camp. Let the best man win.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:26 pm
Rookie. We’ll know by end of training camp, or mid season next year.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Definitely bring more than one other kicker next season.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Another GREAT FSU pickup. We have now over-drafted a QB and kicker. Let’s complete the incompetent trifecta and trade up for cook.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:30 pm
This is the biggest reason we didn’t make the playoffs. Several missed kicked changed field position and strategy at the end of games costing us a couple of wins.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:30 pm
20 games, not just 16. He was atrocious in the preseason and for a kicker that can’t kick you know damn well those games counted
January 1st, 2017 at 4:33 pm
I normally wait until 3 years to say if a player is a bust but he has BUS written all over him. If he cost the Bucs a game in year two he will earn the “T” and be a awful pick
January 1st, 2017 at 4:33 pm
Think about it this way, if AguaOh,no had the season that Barth had up in Chicago we would be talking about what a great pick that was by Licht. Barth, the guy we cut in favor of this human point shaver. Licht is putting his ego ahead of this team every day this loser keeker remains on this roster.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:33 pm
Buc50-Jameis turnovers in the close losses cost us the postseason
January 1st, 2017 at 4:35 pm
Yesterday people were bragging about his Big Foot.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:37 pm
Hes a rookie. I expect them to bring in competition for him next year but Im not worried. If he continues this struggle next season, then we got a problem. Now if he was a 6th year vet who completely went missing during the most crucial point of the season yet again, also while being completely healthy and having talented players around him… well then I’d be concerned. But meh, im just a ignorant hater.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:40 pm
TT I know you hate the guy but, strictly watching the close games that we had a chance to win. Kicking cost us more games than Jameis.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:45 pm
I don’t think Roberto will ever be anything but shaky. He looks like he’s about to fall down stumble bum style when he approaches the ball.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:46 pm
Rookie kickers, even all time great HOF’ers, almost always have terrible rookie seasons. Kicker will be better next year and will hit his stride in year 3 – if he is going to be a great decade plus kicker. Those calling to cut the guy are just morons – you bring in a kicker to compete and provide reps, but you play kicker through at least middle of next season – if there is no improvement by then you cut him and move on. But I expect a nice improvement over the offseason and you’ll hear coaches saying that over and over again, if so then all will be fine. Kicker didn’t cost any games this year – plus kickers around the NFL in general haven’t had a good year this year. Just chill out kiddos, everything will be fine – or it won’t – in either case your whining makes zero difference.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:47 pm
Disagree completely with the rookie excuse. The field goals are the same width as the always have been. Rookie excuses make sense sometimes for positional players as they have to learn new schemes and adapt to the speed at this level. This does not apply to kickers at all. There is nothing different between college and the pros for a kicker. I would disagree with Joe’s grade of a D. This is the NFL and kickers make the vast majority of kicks in the 40-49 yard range. This kid cant make them. Has to be something mental but you cant have a kicker that cant make a 44 yard field goal….ever. He gets an F in my book.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:47 pm
If he needs competition to do his job he is useless. He cost the team a couple possible games this season. That alone should motivate him. Why are the Bucs getting stuck with these losers?
January 1st, 2017 at 4:54 pm
Anyone looking at it objectively gets ride of this guy by game 4 of the regular season. Problem is Licht is not objective. He is more worried about his inflated reputation than the good of this football team. That’s why you see Charles Sims getting forced into plays too. If Koetter had his druthers we would not be rolling with AguaOh,no on gameday.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:56 pm
The Saints UDFA rookie kicker from Georgia State ( Will Lutz) don’t seems to struggle. 27-33 FG…47-48 XPA, 24-26 from 49 YD or less.
January 1st, 2017 at 4:58 pm
Lakeland- enough with the reasoned thought. Best to defend all Licht decisions no matter how obviously atrocious
January 1st, 2017 at 5:01 pm
TouchDownTampaBay – It’s not an excuse, it’s a statistical fact.
LakeLandBuc – Lots of nobodies have good single seasons. Also that rookie in New Orleans lost them games early in the year that cost them games, like the Raiders game. According to you guys you’d have cut him after that game and been on to the next kicker – because changing kickers as often as you change head coaches is what leads to great longterm success.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:03 pm
Yeah, another rough game for aguayo. I hope he gets the help he needs to become the star kicker we drafted him to be.
The kid has obvious talent, it’s purely mental. If he can get his head on straight he will be fine. I dont know if competition will help or hurt his mindset, but we should do whatever we can to help Aguayo excel at his position, before we go about replacing him. If he is struggling at all in the first week of Training camp, we should bring in another kicker to push/mentor aguayo. We cannot go through another season like we did this year with such an inconsistent kicker.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:05 pm
DallasBuc – I wasn’t defending anyone you dolt, I was saying the Bucs already made the pick so whining about it does nothing. Statistically, kicker should be good next year, that’s what generally happens if he is going to be anything special.
Also, no, I wouldn’t have taken him in the 2nd round – and said so at the time. But at this point you just wait and see what happens next year, you know unless you’re a dramaqueen on your period and throw a hissyfit when the kick is blocked because the 12th string snapper doesn’t bother to block anyone and the Panther play comes clean up the middle… but that was kickers fault right?
Be less boring.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:07 pm
Munch- tell me which coach out of Morris, Schiano or Uncle Lovie was the second coming of Bill Walsh (or Belichek)?
You change your keeker when you observe 3 miserable months of missing gimme kiddie kicks. It should be like anything else in life but for some reason this guy gets a pass. But really, it’s the GM we are giving the pass to since he is the dippy in charge
January 1st, 2017 at 5:08 pm
Rookies are unpredictable. Most rookies at ALL positions struggle. Kicker is no different. You cant nitpick which positions struggle and which dont. Sure you can pick out a rookie kicker such as Lutz who have had a good year. You can also find hall of fame kickers who had horrible rookie years. Point is very simple despite how much you want to hate the guy, rookies are unpredictable and you simply cant give up after 1 year. Stop it. Just stop it.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:09 pm
Saints rookie WR Michael Thomas ( Keyshawn Johnson nephew) just went over a 1,000 YDS for the season. Saints rookie DT Sheldon Rankins has 20 tackles and 4 sacks in 8 games. Saint rookie SS Vonn Bell has 81 tackles. I’m just saying.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:11 pm
Munch- no need to go after me, I wasn’t attacking you but it’s funny when you do. Your humor is not funny but your attempts at it are!
Smile
January 1st, 2017 at 5:16 pm
Place kicker is the least dynamic position on the field. There is one motion. Stationary opponent, the goal posts. It is hardly a position that entails actual football skill in the blocking and tackling sense. You have 10 guys blocking for you so you remain untouched. It’s not picky to separate kickers from the rest of the positions in your team.
AguaOh,no is terrible until he proves otherwise and in my opinion he has been given more than enough time to convince us otherwise. Cut his lousy aas.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:18 pm
According to that logic then every rookie kicker should have great years if they are any good. Right? But of course we know that not to be true. There are kickers who’ve had worse seasons than Aguayo. So again. Stop. Just stop.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:26 pm
This kids a douche bag.
They gave him a whole year of leash slack and he DIDNT get any better.
F**k this c**k sucker.
Let him go elsewhere and get better with another team. F**k him.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:28 pm
DallasBuc – My humor is amazing, top notch stuff, probably not your style since you’re more used to what you read on bathroom stalls considering all the time you spend volunteering at the local glory hole.
See… that’s humor. You got Dallas in your name and what is Dallas most well known for? Jerry Jones – and what does Jerry Jones love? He loves a good glory hole – his words not mine.
A+ to me.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:28 pm
@TouchDownTampaBay … “Has to be something mental but you cant have a kicker that cant make a 44 yard field goal….ever. He gets an F in my book.”
Yesterday … https://www.joebucsfan.com/2016/12/koetter-aguayo-can-boom-kicks/#comment-3760632
@TouchDownTampaBay … “Aguayo appears to have turned the corner and is going to work out.”
For some reason TDTB I remembered your assessment of Roberto from yesterday’s article “Koetter: Aguayo Can Boom Kicks”. Wow, you turned on Roberto (F?) faster than Joe turned on Johnny Football.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:28 pm
Oh thanks for enlightening us Rod Muncher. I think I hear a shlong calling you.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:31 pm
If he had potential, like say he made some 50 yard erst and was inaccurate on some gimmies, I would say he has talent but needs consistency. But he has shown no leg and is erratic
January 1st, 2017 at 5:33 pm
Rod Munch has a eye towards an alternative lifestyle , you can tell by his cuckold and glory hole posts
January 1st, 2017 at 5:34 pm
I totally agree with cutting Aguayo….cut your loses now while you are ahead. Don’t wait till he cost you a hugh game….move on from your bad decisions….had Graham Ganot hit 1 more FG today….we loose the game. He was lucky today that the other teams kicker sucked as much as he did today. That’s not a recipe for winning in the future. Find a kicker in Free agency and move on.
#F#@kAguayo !!!
January 1st, 2017 at 5:34 pm
DallasBuc – Also just to stay on topic, most rookie kickers who end up kicking forever and have great careers, right up to HOF careers, in general they have bad rookie seasons. Don’t know why, but that is the case over and over. It doesn’t mean every rookie kicker who has a bad year turns into a HOF’er, but when a kicker like we have, who was considered a late 2nd round talent, they rarely truly bust – in fact
I can’t even think of one who did. The closest would be Mike Nugent who was drafted even higher and people might say he’s a bust, but he was a bust that played 11 years. Kicker will be just fine – which is why it will be incredibly stupid to cut him or give up on him. He cost the Bucs zero games this year and hit at least one game winner I can think of. He was mostly a non-factor, so stop whining about it, it changes nothing.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:36 pm
Uh oh, looks like I triggered Chris.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:41 pm
I wonder if Lichtenstein knows Dallasbucs mother. That would explain all the hate.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:42 pm
That is correct I did turn on him and that is what happens when you’re a kicker. That is why kickers tend to be interchangeable. He played decent the last few games and then today when we needed him he missed one and may or may not have been at fault on the blocked kick. You are only as good as your last kick. I thought he had started to turn the corner but today he confirmed that he simply cannot make kicks of 44 yards or more.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:43 pm
The only reasoning you can use to call it stupid to cut him is if you take into account the price paid for his disservice. That is sunk cost and rests solely on the chubby shoulders of our over inflated ego GM.
He didn’t make a single kick over 43 yards in 20 games and missed an unconscionable amount of gimme kiddie kicks. Facts on the ground you humorist!
January 1st, 2017 at 5:44 pm
I am not saying we should cut him but the kid needs to get his $%@# together next season.
January 1st, 2017 at 5:45 pm
Pit- your mom jokes are some next level humor. I got nothin
January 1st, 2017 at 6:08 pm
Hey Bucnut, let’s see……..Derrick Brooks, Warwick Dunn, 2 Walter Payton Man of the year recipients, MVP of our Super Bowl, Dexter Jackson, and one of the most unsung heroes of our Super Bowl, Greg Spires (just watch that win and tell me who gave Rice and Sapp the most help), Jameis Winston……FSU players are not just good, but learn the meaning of family and loyalty! Yeah, I will take more FSU stars!
January 1st, 2017 at 6:34 pm
I was at the game, and when I saw he was going to have to hit from 46, I turned to my guest (who is a Browns fan), and with nods from all around me, I stated, he is going to miss this one. And it is going to look random as he11, because that is how this kid is (I have been saying he doesn’t shank or hook or slice; he just hits them randomly yet solidly). Well, he missed. So when he lined up for 43, I said this “ties his longest all year.” Then came the penalty, now it’s 48. I said he is going to hit it high to make it go low thinking he’s got to get the range. He’ll miss or it will be blocked. It was blocked. No, don’t cut him, but he needs to pay for a coach all off season, and the Bucs need to bring a kicker into camp to challenge him. No Bucs fan is going to gripe at Jason if Aguayo sucks in preseason and they cut him. I was a soccer player and kicked in high school and college. I am no pro, but a soccer style kicker is typically VERY accurate. There is no excuse not to put every 33 yard down the middle 80% of the time and off the side as a aberration with a outright miss less than 5%. Aguayo is one random SOB. His clock is ticking. He’d better show to camp fixed, or he will done faster than you can “undrafted FA walkon.”
January 1st, 2017 at 7:57 pm
^^^nonsense, no offense. Kid is not cut out for this highly specialized position of employment.
January 1st, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Unfortunately we have to give them another year can’t say it was the best pick we’ve ever made could have went either way after next season if he’s still struggling you have no choice but you go separate ways not many high drafted kickers have struggled in their first years let’s see how to attach the offseason
January 1st, 2017 at 10:49 pm
Where is it the law that Bucs have to give him another year ? Bring in competition next year in the preseason and see if he can hit a FG longer than 43. If he can’t, get rid of him. Licht has to man up and correct this atrocious draft pick.