If Bucs Win Sunday, Jameis Not Content
December 30th, 2016
Bigger fish to fry.
Once upon a time, legendary Packers coach Vince Lombardi said either you are first or you are last.
Lombardi and America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, could hang together.
Of course, Jameis likes wins. If you could only see how depressed Jameis is after losses. He really takes each loss personally. It rips his heart out. Joe honestly thinks the losing streak to end the 2015 season last year took years off of Jameis’ life (remember his outburst after the second loss to the Stinking Panthers?).
Losses eat at Jameis’ soul.
So there is no question Jameis has one thing in mind come Sunday: finish the season with a win and end the losing seasons in Tampa Bay.
But will that be a success? Jameis said this week, no. A 9-7 record is in no way a goal.
“I don’t view it as a success, just for me,” Jameis said. “For the organization, for fans, a lot of people are happy. But the mentality of this team, our ultimate goal is win playoff games, win Super Bowls. It’s exciting, it’s exciting that we have a chance to have a winning season, but that’s not something that we’re aiming for at the beginning of the season.
“We’re aiming for the highest and I think as long as we keep expecting the highest and raising our bar, that’s the better [team] we’re going to become.”
It isn’t just Jameis. Joe caught up with Mr. Beasting, Robert Ayers. This dude is like Jameis in that he would eat nails to win. When Joe asked Ayers what he thought of Jameis’ take that a winning season is not a success unless it leads to a playoff berth, Ayers agreed.
“What’s successful about not winning a Super Bowl?” Ayers said. “There will be 31 teams that will be unsuccessful this year. That’s the way I look at it.”
One thing it seems Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht values is personality. He wants guys that are not just happy to be on a roster. Licht actually looks for personalities like Ayers and Jameis, guys that would rather drink battery acid than lose.
Guys who are wired like that (Kwon Alexander is another one) seem to max out their talents more often than others who are good with just collecting a check.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:15 am
Right on Jameis. Joe, I hope Licht, Jameis, Ayers, and Kwon have a sit down like you said. Kwon called out his teammates on effort in the Saints game. Time to purge those who are just happy to get a check.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:29 am
I love Jameis but after we get more offensive firepower he MUST stop throwing INTs at ridiculous rates. That will determine our success as well.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:32 am
Hopefully, drug use by his team mates eats at his soul too. Kwon could have inspired is team to win a couple of games last year instead of being suspended, and this year, maybe Martin would have found enough juice to get a big run in Dallas or be the starter in NO to get us one more win. Then fans would not be sitting on the sidelines paying full price for tickets to a meaningless game. Jameis is the leader of this team…he needs to truly lead them and make everyone…EVERYONE want to win badly enough they don’t snort or pop or shoot of whatever. How many arrests will we see this offseason? This, after losing Kwon, ASJ, and Martin in less than 12 months to selfish decisions. Yeah, maybe I’m all vinegar today, but enough is enough.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:44 am
Remember Jameis’ rant after last year’s season finale “We got to fix the why’s on this team”…We saw what this team is capable of this season…I know we fell short of our ultimate goal, but we do have something to build on going into next season…Imho we need to get better in the trenches (on both sides of the ball) and we need to get Jameis some more weapons…As a life long Bucs fans I’d love to see us be playoff regulars..
December 30th, 2016 at 5:44 am
@Fred E, Leadership only goes so far… Real men get off their asses and conduct themselves accordingly.
December 30th, 2016 at 5:46 am
OneBuc55, I agree. Another DT to go with McCoy, upgrade RT and C. GO out and get Kenny Stills or Kenny Britt to fill that #2 WR so you dont HAVE to draft a WR. Find a RB in the draft, and watch out for the Bucs in 2017
December 30th, 2016 at 5:53 am
It’s a lot better than 2 or 6 wins ! Of course you want to do better everyone does,but it’s dumb people crying who got Jon Gruden canned! And look how long it took to find anther coach! Can’t we enjoy a winning season?
December 30th, 2016 at 6:13 am
Jameis baby, love your fire and hopefully next season you’ll start to relax when playing big games. You’ll get us there I trust.
December 30th, 2016 at 6:18 am
Love ur fire too now learn more about not throwing 20 interceptions and you could just make the playoffs! In my opinion his inaccuracies are the reason we are not in the playoffs!
December 30th, 2016 at 6:57 am
Listen to OneBuc55: Character counts.
December 30th, 2016 at 6:58 am
Wups, meant FredE.Buc…
December 30th, 2016 at 7:27 am
Watch out Buccaneer Scotty, the Jameis jock sniffers will crush you and question your fandom for criticizing their God
December 30th, 2016 at 7:29 am
With that being true that Jameis, Ayeres , and even Licht do not want players that are happy to just not lose then they prove the point of a vast number of Joe readers…. that there are elements on this team aka GMC that don’t care about advancing. Simply look at Joes article yesterday where the man himself said what I am pointing out. Your honor case closed because facts are facts.
December 30th, 2016 at 7:35 am
The losing culture will not change until the leaders of losing culture are gone. Hopefully LVD can be saved but it’s very clear this team will not win consistently nor win big games with the soft, mentally weak defensive leader 93 that could careless about winning. 2nd place IS the first loser.
December 30th, 2016 at 7:53 am
Well considering many people feel to include the HC he needs upgrades to work wit but doesn’t currently have them the int total seems fair if you ask me. How often dose he drop back and scan scan and scan some more. You wanna know why Hump,Shep,Martino are not open. I won’t even mention ME you know the one true target he dose have because we know what teams are doing to take him away. Wonder what Rodgers or Big Ben int total would be if they had to work with 3rd and 4th rate WRs all day. You p$$y’s find any and everything to complain about.
December 30th, 2016 at 7:56 am
“and you could make playoffs!” sound stupid as f@$!. Make it for what??? To quickly get bounced in the first round but make yo bright ass happy to be able tell co-workers “atleast we made it to the playoffs!” d@$! that, get my squad right. So you know we can make some real noise once we arrive.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:00 am
Okay, I am sick of this bullspit.
First off, saying the interception kept us from the playoffs? That’s debatable, but you can bet Jameis is holding himself more accountable than anyone else.
Secondly, if you were Christian, you would understand that McCoy is a humble but driven man. The Bible teaches to be grateful for the things we have. That doesn’t mean he is content. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t want more. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t plan to achieve more.
Let’s be blunt. Other than McCoy, exactly who is great on the defensive line?
No one.
Ayers has a great attitude, but his production doesn’t show to that level. Noah Spence is still developing. He MIGHT turn out great, might not. Ghoulston has missed games ad he has hit a ceiling. And our other DT is useless.
McCoy might be the most public DL guy, but really he is alone. That’s the bottom line. The last draft should have filled two spots there and it only filled one. It simply cannot be neglected anymore.
You want Gerald McCoy to pass ten sacks and become a monster? Then give him real players to work with.
And stop blaming him for e erything that Jason Licht is responsible for.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:02 am
I guess he would be better served to just eat it every time. Or chuck it out of bounds. Cause ain’t a d@$! thang open downfield. Our offense as it stands is easy to gamelan for.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:04 am
You want the dline fixed? Invest our top picks in it.
Forget OL and WR in the top 3 rounds. Fix the defense. Address the rest later in the draft or free agency.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:05 am
Tony not questioning is fandom, just trying to find logic in his comment.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:07 am
@brocktac I agree completely. My hope is that for what jameis is saying publicly he is also calling them out behind the scenes. Absolutely it is on the guys breaking the rules…they need to be accountable. That said fans pay to see starters go try to win a pro ball game, not see scabs stand in for the top players who are suspended.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:10 am
If I’m missing something please someone enlighten me. Look at Rodgers cast and look as ours. Look at Big Ben’s cast and look ours. Look at Carr’s cast and look at ours. Look at Ryan’s cast and look at ours. Look at Brees cast and look at ours. H3ll look at Cam’s cast. AND.LOOK.AT.OURS.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:16 am
Bonzi
This ain’t Bible study it’s nfl football. I don’t care what his beliefs are but on Sunday if he ain’t throat stomping opponents he needs to get his soft ass of the field. He’s a loser all the good guy community BS has never won a game on Sunday.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:19 am
I hope he throws ten of them muthas on Sunday so it can be painstakingly evident how devoid of talent this offense truly is. I hope he throws ten.
December 30th, 2016 at 8:29 am
If you wanna give Jameis a pass for lack of weapons fine. But let’s not assume he will be more accurate with upgraded talent around him. Especially when he’s had a nasty habit of overthrowing open receivers who are “less talented”
You can’t really believe that Jameis’s INT issues haven’t kept this team out of the playoffs. Bucs lost to Dallas, Saints, Rams and Raiders all by one score and in 3 of those 4 games he had multiple turnovers resulting in point swings for the other team. His turnovers have cost this team games.
When he fixes that this team will be hell to play
December 30th, 2016 at 9:01 am
In those 3 losses I mentioned the other team scored 31 points off turnovers in the NFL the margin of victory is very close typically and you can’t give away points. Once Jameis gets a handle on the turnovers this team will be dangerous
December 30th, 2016 at 9:43 am
@Tampa Tony- Nope. Those INTs are GMC’s fault and Martin’s fault and Conte’s fault! Because they don’t want to win, that’s why!
Love the fire Jameis! Love it!
December 30th, 2016 at 10:21 am
I respect your input Tony, you don’t talk out your @$$. We happen to have a difference in opinion tho. You gotta have ballas in this league bro. They make everyone around them job a whole lot easier.
December 30th, 2016 at 11:55 am
Sure Jameis needs to improve his accuracy. But it goes both ways. There are time Jameis is sacked or forced to ground it due to receivers taking far too long to run a route. Or a third and long where the o line doesn’t give near enough time for the play to develop. Or you could question the play calling too. Why not run a short passing play off a three step drop on first down instead of a run between the tackle for little or no gain. Add all this with no running game and you get an offense stuck in neutral.
December 30th, 2016 at 12:42 pm
We have 7 losses and Jameis had 16 turnovers in those losses. Jameis first responsibility should be , fix his mechanics first. Then he should focus on being a vocal leader, you have to lead by example. And turning the ball over 16 times in our 7 losses isn’t setting the right example. Fix yourself first, then fix the team. I don’t believe players will take him seriously if he’s turning the ball at that rate.
December 30th, 2016 at 3:32 pm
16 turnovers in the 7 losses and 5 turnovers in the 8 wins. If only Jameis can keep his turnovers to 10 or under, playoffs here we come.
December 30th, 2016 at 7:20 pm
I’m still not sold on Jameis, IMO, without Mike Evans, Jameis might be looking like another #1 draft pick headed for backup territory. Is this 0 line really that bad….or are we seeing another qb that can’t adjust when his designated receiver isn’t open? A lot of unanswered questions here…..Franchise QB? At this point, not even close