Not Motivated?
November 7th, 2016Interesting words from Dirk Koetter last week in his day-after presser.
Koetter previously noted there is a definite losing culture within the Bucs he is trying to delouse. That sentiment crept up again Friday. Koetter explained he needs to coach up the Bucs better and that the buck (no pun intended) stops at his desk.
“I have to figure out how to reach these guys,” Koetter said. “[H]ow to motivate them, how to get them on the same page, get them to play together, to play up to the talent level that I think we have. That all starts with me.”
Two things jumped out at Joe here. Koetter, in so many words, said he can’t reach some players. Joe could be totally off base but it seems some players already have tuned out Koetter or may have never tuned in. If so, those players have no business being on the roster next spring.
If these guys (whatever the number of culprits) tune out Koetter or other assistants, they just as easily will tune out future coaches, if Team Glazer saw fit to bring in new coaches. This type of mentality personifies losing. These guys need to be identified and shipped out, period.
As Bear Bryant used to say about never bringing back a player who quit on the team, “If you quit on me once, you’ll quit on me again.”
As far as motivation, if playing a game we grew up loving for millions to set yourself and your family up for generations isn’t motivation, then get out. Go pollute some other team’s locker room, preferably the Stinking Panthers’.
November 7th, 2016 at 6:40 am
At what point do Bucs’ media & fans stop looking for ‘culprits’? When do folks stop being so concerned about players’ ‘motivation’ and start being more concerned about talent level? Teams with a ‘losing culture’ seem to have one thing in common: they all lose a LOT of games. I know, it sounds ridiculously obvious but losing grates on fans AND players alike. At the most elite level in any sport, I’d suspect that the more talented and better coached teams win the most consistently. Less talented or poorly coached teams? No so much.
Coaching isn’t our problem right now; talent level is. And it has been for many years. Bucs’ management has done a poor job of stocking this roster with the talent level necessary to win consistently. Take a look at several positions: WR, TE, RB, DE, LB, Safety. How many players do we have who you’d call ‘elite’ at those positions based on their performance this year? 1? Maybe 2? Possibly as many as 4 at the start of the season? Those positions comprise almost half the team and a bunch of them are manned by undrafted FAs. The weakest link on the Bucs is management … use them as your ‘culprit’ for losing and please stop using the players as your scapegoats.
November 7th, 2016 at 7:09 am
Not sure which ones he is talking about, but he is right. He needs to get a handle on this thing pretty quick and draft replacements for the troublemakers.
November 7th, 2016 at 7:18 am
Purge the locker room
We need GORILLAS in the mist!
Seems like some players are pulling the BUCS mannequin challenge… Get those clowns out
Glad that he admitted there are some posers in the building. We’ll find out soon enough who wins.. Licht you have got to do better
C’mon BUCS
November 7th, 2016 at 7:37 am
Lovie’s leftovers are still impeding progress it would seem. Jason needs to continue the purge and get players with the correct mind set, and talent.
November 7th, 2016 at 7:46 am
Ive said it from day one.. Gerold McCoy does not play up to his potential.. Neither Does Levante David.. Look at Kwon.. Thats a player that balls out every week! We need more Kwons..
November 7th, 2016 at 7:56 am
Luckily, the owners saw how bad the incompetent one is at his job, and now we are a year ahead and less of a mess to clean up!!!!! This year is about seeing who can play in the NFL and what players can be salvaged by coaching the lovie out of them!!!!!!!
It is closer to becoming a good team around here than you think!!!!!!
Go America
And GO BUCS!!!!!!
November 7th, 2016 at 7:59 am
John Says:
November 7th, 2016 at 7:46 am
Ive said it from day one.. Gerold McCoy does not play up to his potential.. Neither Does Levante David.. Look at Kwon..
Said that before the trade deadline and was roasted
November 7th, 2016 at 8:11 am
So the coach that coaches conservatively calls out the players motivation. These guys are human, yeah they’re paid millions. The offense drives Dow the field, bring in the kicker and he misses a field goal, the offense drives down the field and scores a touchdown and you look away because you are not sure if you will get the extra point. The defense when they get off the field and then the offense goes there and out. The defense can’t stop a 3rd and 15+ with consistency. Jameis and the offense turn the ball over. Injuries are part of the game, but you look up and down goes Doug, down goes Chuck, down goes Quizz, down goes V-jax, down goes Shep, down goes Jack Smith, down goes McCoy and McDonald again. Bye bye to ASJ, bye bye Banks… did I mention missing wide open receivers to keep drives going (I am on the JW bandwagon), now ask me about motivation, they are pros, of course they are motivated but I think OBP is is lacking leadership on every level and the are just trying to figure it out
November 7th, 2016 at 8:28 am
we lose to chicago…bye bye for tampa fan base for 2016.
RJ stadium will be empty and dire
2016, glazers will lose over $50 million in loss revenue, corporate sponsorships etc…
Darcie glazer will be cooking lichts a $$
November 7th, 2016 at 8:33 am
Watching that Eagles / Giants game saw both Najee Goode and Jonathan Casillias starting. I expect to see Banks playing well with the Lions . Guys we let go have no problem playing for other teams. God I miss Michael Bennett
November 7th, 2016 at 9:09 am
It’s really simple get rid if the overrated, overpaid fraud that is gmc. Pure locker room cancer. No one has led the bucs defensive unit to quit on more coaches than the smiling ice cream man. Hope it’s not too late to save LVD but he has been one of worst lb in league
November 7th, 2016 at 9:09 am
Well said defense,10 -12 years of mismanagement has left this team in bad shape.We had a lot of misses in the first couple of rounds so that we are not improving and we still have to replace badly drafted player instead of moving
on to another problem area.In recent years our expensive free agent acquisitions have not been as good as advertised or been on the field enough.
November 7th, 2016 at 9:20 am
Hope DK has had some very serious talks w/Mike Smith this week. I’m not sold on Smith. I am sold on the FACT that DK needs to be HC for AT LEAST 2 more seasons!! The administrative/coaching instability has crippled this team. I said 8-8 last year; I’m sticking to it this year. Go Bucs!!
November 7th, 2016 at 9:42 am
Blame mike smith?
We have the 3rd worst roster in talent.
Ryan smith our 4th round pick cant even step onto the field as safety because he doesnt know how to play
It sickens me and makes kobe angry when idiots from this site and this pathetic local sports media puts/pumps Kwon alexander near the same level as like luke kuechly….lol please stop the brainwashing to pump him to the probowl. Kwonie cant even sniff kuechlys jock strap
November 7th, 2016 at 10:11 am
we can sit here and guess all day, but for starters based on how the bucs are getting walked all over on defense, i’d start my guessing with some defensive players who actually liked what lovie was doing. not sure how dirk would have allowed offensive malcontents to carry over to year 2
November 7th, 2016 at 10:38 am
Please don’t get rid of anymore talent, that seems to be our staple move. Just win and the players will tune in. Great coaches find ways to motivate different personalities. Koetter should take a step back from offense and do what a head coach is supposed to do and manage millionaire personalities.
November 7th, 2016 at 10:59 am
Let go of GMC…….and he will come back at us as s reformed “Q-B KILLER” if you can’t coach this team up step aside ………BRING LOVIE BACK!!! let them hear ya..BRING LOVIE BACK..say it again….BRING LOVIE BACK!! …..wait..wait..wait….. I mean COACH THE LOVIE OUT OF THEM!! Ha ha ha ha !
November 7th, 2016 at 11:04 am
MCCOY IS A POISON IN THIS LOCKERROOM…
He has shown it time and time again HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WINNING…
Why did Jamies call him out in the beginning of the season..
Who was laughing in the locker room after the big loss last year and set Jamies OFF….
MCCOY……
I know JOE LOVESSSSSSSSSS MCCOY
BUT THE FACT IS MCCOY IS NOT A LEADER WHO WANTS TO WIN AND HE IS THE ONE THE LOCKER ROOM LOOKS TOO.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:54 am
Sure am glad you folks ran Chucky out of town.
The team has been a joy to watch since then.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:57 am
Funny! I didn’t see any players named! Yet, according to ATrain and tmax, it must be GMC. Hmmmmmmm, bias anyone?
Whoever, and I mean that, whoever it is HAS to go. It really is that simple.
How in the heck did we get here from the springing optimism of getting rid of Lovie?! I’ll tell you: Players play!
November 7th, 2016 at 12:02 pm
Sure am glad you folks ran Chucky out of town.
You should be.
Ask his ex-players about him and you’ll never wonder why he was run, also, it’s been almost a decade and he’s still never been seriously considered for another HC position by anyone other than his agent, there’s a reason.
November 7th, 2016 at 12:07 pm
That’s simply inaccurate.
Chucky has turned down lots of overtures. He simply doesn’t want to coach. Doesn’t need to. He’s being paid a coach’s salary by BSPN to work only a handful of days a year with zero stress.
Nice gig if you can get it.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:21 am
If Koetter can’t find a way to reach these players, he will be gone. A win on Sunday against the Bears is huge! If they can’t handle the Bears at home, this could be a Raheem-esque end to the season. I’m truly scared for this team right now.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:35 am
amen Joes! Amen!!
November 7th, 2016 at 11:39 am
He’ll be the first to tell you “I haven’t lost a game in eight years!” I think he’s great on MNF.
November 7th, 2016 at 11:46 am
GMC and everyone else has been asking this team for years to get him an explosive DE/DT to play next to him and they haven’t done it. No one can be a QB killer in this league if you’re getting double teamed on every play. Like Realist I also believe this team isn’t so far from being good. They need to bring in some big time players that have already proven themselves and some younger guys with a lot of potential in FA . Not guys like broke back Sweezy and give them 35 mil. If we can do that with one or two more decent drafts and the same coaching squad/scheme, we could make a turn around.
November 7th, 2016 at 12:19 pm
What’s up Joe & suffering Bucs fans! Do I think we can use more talent on the team, absolutely! But that can also be said about every team in the NFL, so let’s not harp on “talent.” Koetter is still moving the ball on offense w/ a less than talented group.
I think what coach is really saying is he needs to motivate players to do ALL they can to be ready for game day. Talent has nothing to do w/ players not knowing where to line up snap after snap, which was the case last Thursday. That takes STUDYING, dedicating yourself to your job by watching film & standing in the playbook.
I’m tired of excuses w/ “the defense is too complicated.” Remember last yr it was “Lovie defense is TOO simple.” So be careful what you ask for. We don’t need 11 McCoys, Davids & Alexanders. We need DEDICATED players who KNOW their assignments. The opposing offense shifts & we are totally dumbfounded SMH WTF!