Jameis Says He Must Take More Sacks
October 8th, 2016
New goal
America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, says he has to wave the white flag more often.
Of course, Joe is referencing individual plays — not punting on 4th-and-6 with 7 1/2 minutes left in football game in Broncos territory while trailing by 20 points.
Jameis had a private chat this week with BSPN property The Undefeated. There were interesting nuggets.
One was Jameis saying he should add knowing when to give up on plays to his repertoire.
Winston says he gets it. He’s trying. Really. “Giving up is never going to be in my vocabulary, but all the great ones take sacks,” Winston told me. “I don’t want to do that. But it’s part of my game that I have to develop. It’s part of my game that I have to become better at. If I want to be one of those top-tier guys, and I do, I have to do it.”
Joe couldn’t agree more. Currently, Jameis doesn’t take sacks, and he really doesn’t throw balls away.
However, Joe’s not sure Jameis can alter his DNA on this issue. It reminds Joe of Jeff Garcia being told for years to learn how to slide. He just couldn’t do it. He couldn’t get his brain to stop fighting for extra yards.
October 8th, 2016 at 2:46 pm
Jameis isone of the most efficient passers when under pressure…..so taking sacks isn’t the only answer. He needs to do the unthinkable….check it down!!!
October 8th, 2016 at 2:47 pm
Sad but true….
October 8th, 2016 at 2:49 pm
Obviously, he doesn’t mean that’s all he has to do. I think Koetter has been in his ear saying “Better to take sacks than turn over the ball.
October 8th, 2016 at 2:50 pm
No. Sorry Jameis. You can’t do that in in Tampa. My Gawad the names you will be called!!
October 8th, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Throw it away instead of taking the sack…but I hope the coaches aren’t demoralizing the guy. He seems so unlike himself in games and in interviews. Not seeing the spark of personality and charm in interviews. In game he (like many Bucs) look joyless. Have a laugh in-game Jameis…be yourself…might do you wonders.
October 8th, 2016 at 2:57 pm
They think you should throw short. Take check downs . And now you want to take sacks. Oh they will be needless. Gutless. Scared. What a reputation you would get. I am surprised that has not started on the sacks taken already! Oh. And the needless running around!
October 8th, 2016 at 2:59 pm
Warren
The TB football experts will do that to you.
October 8th, 2016 at 3:01 pm
Agree with all the posters so far. America’s (2nd Most Hated) Quarterback needs to stop holding onto the ball and feed it to the hot reads whenever possible, a classic problem among Bucs’ QBs since 1976.
October 8th, 2016 at 3:07 pm
Careful Dr, no negativity in the pink pony rainbow glasses world of Tampa
October 8th, 2016 at 3:19 pm
I don’t blame Winston for pressing…all weapons other than Evans are either injured or cut…Jackson has gone into a season long give up slide. To be honest, I’m not too disappointed that Sims is out. He’s better in complimentary role and has Garo’d a few balls in the air.
October 8th, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Enough with the excuses already, just don’t turn the ball over. “But all the great ones take sacks” – Jameis Winston. NO, they don’t, the great ones know how to throw the ball away and don’t get sacked that often. Bonzai said it best, he is repeating something that Koetter said to him but NOT saying it right. Like I said, it is just another excuse like “I need to take care of the football”. Guess I should say, “I’m from Missouri – show me”. The excuses are getting old now, time to put up or shut up. We could put Glennon in if we just wanted to give up sacks, at least he would protect the football.
October 8th, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Learn how to throw the ball away. Much better than taking a sack.
October 8th, 2016 at 3:44 pm
Rather than take sacks I’d like to see him break the pocket and run for some years then get out of bounds or slide. He has looked like coaching has stressed not to run the ball this season. Get 4 yards and slide, then we can stay out of 3rd and longs
October 8th, 2016 at 3:50 pm
No he needs a Running Back!!! ………….. The teams with the best run game / rushing yards are going to win over 75 percent of the time and on some Sunday’s it approaches 90% that’s right 75 to 90 percent winning percentage!!! Now you tell me how important your RB is ? Does licht realize this because I will assure you that any team starting Rogers or Sims as their primary back isn’t going to be either the most productive nor the highest yards /rushing team. So the numbers don’t lie you will not win, plain and simple you will not win . Making matters worse is your QB will also struggle , especially with only one weapon. Well I guess you would by the numbers have a 15 to 30% chance of winning. So Now you tell me how important is it to have a quality back up running back, not a fancy lil utility guy.So does Licht know these Facts, these are facts you can’t beat em, so if you know this and you think you can win with what you have at RB then your wrong and that means you can’t be an NFL GM !!! If you don’t know these facts and you haven’t done anything about it , well then that also clearly means you can’t be an NFL GM ………… These are facts people !!! because when you are successful rushing the ball you will also be better throwing the ball and vice versa!!! So I hope it is now clear that we can talk drops, line play, Db play so on and so forth but for this team none of that really matters until you have a good RB so you can run your freakin offense!! The passing game will also struggle until this is fixed and Martin coming back isn’t an entire fix because he has no back up and is a terrible short yardage guy !!! I think last week the highest rushing teams went 12-3 and one of the 3 was like a 10 yard difference. How Can an NFL Team Not Have a RB !!! Especially with a Young Franchise QB !!! Facts are Facts and The Facts are You will lose most of the time!!! Maybe the goal is not to win because no one can be this unaware of there roster !!! Can They ????
October 8th, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Agree totally with Tampabaybucfan … taking sacks isn’t the only answer. Check down more often? Yes. Throw it away more often? Yes. Take off running if a hole’s there? Yes.
Not at all sure that throwing fewer INTs equates to taking more sacks. Receivers bear part of the blame for the INTs (deflections and not getting open often enough). OLine bears part of the blame for the INTs (pass protection doesn’t look as good to me this year as it was last year). Play-calling probably has something to do with the INTs too (looks a lot more rigid this year than last year). Plus playing some of the very best NFL defenses, especially DLines and secondaries, might have something to do with the INTs also.
Jameis isn’t blameless by any means, but I think the worst thing Koetter could do is short-circuit or restrict his competitiveness. Coach needs to create more options and Jameis needs to mature a bit in terms of selecting better options.
October 8th, 2016 at 4:21 pm
This is what i fearef
Koetter the clown gameplan is to run the ball and dink and dunk and attack carolinas strength front 7. Yes where #59 makes his living
Carolina weakness is there 3 rookie starting secondary and koetter the clown cant see this. They gave 500 yards passing and now brought up a practice squad corner and they want jameis to dink and tampa is going to run it to the carolina front
You have to have jameis air it out!!! 4 tds and 2 ints is ok
Doesnt this clown know anything about game planning? WTF!!
October 8th, 2016 at 5:09 pm
Jameis is best in the league against pressure this year.
He is worst in the league when not pressured and all his picks have occurred then. He needs to not force it when nothing is there and he needs to learn to take the check down.
Simply put until we learn to not turn the ball over (lead the league in points off turnovers) we won’t win many more games.
October 8th, 2016 at 5:12 pm
@ Kobe Faker
Agreed, do what the Falcons did against them. Don’t worry about INT’s.
@ Issic Haggins
No, that is just another excuse. Tell Winston to say that next time he loses a game because of turnovers. We won against Atlanta and we didn’t have a RB go over 100 yards that day, we were just balanced on offense. AND, JW had an awesome day with ONLY 1 INT. We should be 2-2 OR 3-1 right now if it wasn’t for the turnovers in EVERY game. It’s NOT because we don’t have a running back, it’s because of the play-calling. Sims gained 4.9 yards P/C last year when the OL was blocking well for the RB’s. We just can’t run the ball on first down (or 2nd down) because we are running into 8 men in the box. The defense knows what we are going to do and they stop it, it’s simple. What we should be doing is passing more on 1st down when they have those 8 man fronts.
October 8th, 2016 at 5:19 pm
Its amazing koetter is not getting blame for the pitiful playcalling
Non stop running to the wall with sims. You cant be succesful with non stop 3rd and long…but he stills does this run run pass
Why are we not calling plays like denver with a rookie qb?
This is a fact. Black and white. No doubt success. Answer is …
Run jameis uptempo
October 8th, 2016 at 5:21 pm
“Interestingly, Winston has been the league’s best under duress this season with a quarterback rating of 88.3 when pressured, ahead of the Oakland Raiders’ Derek Carr at 82.3. Winston has thrown five touchdowns and no interceptions in those situations. Dropping back against the blitz, he has a rating of 94.0 — fourth best in the league — with three touchdowns and one interception.”
“When he’s not being pressured or blitzed, he has a rating of 49.0 — 29th in the league — with three touchdowns and eight interceptions. The numbers suggest it’s when Winston is not being pressured or blitzed that he runs into trouble.”
I feel like if the revers were true it would be harder to fix, hoping he starts taking what’s there more often.
October 8th, 2016 at 5:32 pm
Was his biggest critic early on.
I think he will be okay in the longrun.
As a team though we are 4 drafts away.
Good drafts not one player drafts like Jason’s first one and this one
October 8th, 2016 at 5:42 pm
@ Big dumb Stinky !!!! Atlanta Game You dumb Arss ??!! Martin out rushed Coleman by 50 yards and Ryan had like 350 and two but Winston had 280 and 4 …………That’s exactly the pointe!!! Since Martin went down 0-3 Seriously can you read !!! It only takes someone like you to really drive my pointe about our GM handling of the TB situation home……. To further the pointe , Sims got those yards 4.9 avg with Martin ( balanced attack) not without Martin !!!! Sims numbers are what they are without Martin ( Terrible) and he has been hurt twice now since Martin went down . Thanks for volunteering to play idiot and help me make make it clear. Facts are Facts and I know Big Stinky was just playing dumb because it is what it is and they don’t have a TB and they will not win the rushing battle often and he’ll it’s as clear as a window that Koetter has altered his offense since Martin went down!!! Thanks Big Stink for playing idiot as not everyone would do that !!!
October 8th, 2016 at 5:50 pm
It’s really even simpler than that Jameis. Checking it down and living with a short gain is okay. If that’s unavailable and you can’t throw it away, yes, live to fight another down and take the sack.
October 8th, 2016 at 5:54 pm
Koetter didnt change the offense
Sims shouldnt be running in the middle 1st and 2nd down
This offensive guru wannabe didnt know what a 10 year old already knew
Watch now our clown is going to try to run it through carolina front 7 lol
We need to test and throw to their crappy corners but kotter is hoing to try to run it now this week. Lol
Guru??
Get ready for jaboo gabbert 2.0
October 8th, 2016 at 5:55 pm
@ Issic Haggins
I will admit that we need another running back like we had when we had RB’s that don’t get hurt ALL the time i.e. Rhett or Blount or even Dunn. We cannot run the ball because of our OL, NOT because of our RB’s. We have to throw more slants and quick outs on 1st downs when they load the box on us. We are too predictable is what the problem is. Our offense should be keeping the defense on their heels and keep them guessing. Run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, and pass on 3rd and long – SOS! I thought Koetter was a better OC than that. Why doesn’t he mix it up early? I know it takes Jameis time in a game to warm up but he can STILL hit 5-10 yard plays, right? He misses a lot of those too but they are easier than running into an 8 man front. If we throw more on 1st downs maybe teams won’t load up the LOS as often on us. If JW can’t stop turning the ball over on our side of the field it is going to be a long year my friend. How many more years is this going to happen though? MG8 is going to be gone next year and it is going to be too late to see if he could have played better in Dirk’s offense. Then we are going to have to look for a QB ALL over again. Lovie Smith sure put us in a bind by NOT letting Glennon fight for the starting job last year. At least we could have closed the door on MG8 if he did not play good enough in DK’s offense. I will ALWAYS wonder what could have been when Mike is gone and IF Winston doesn’t get any better. Again, I just want the excuses to stop. I do NOT care if he admits to it being his fault because I already know in my head that it IS his fault. I just want to see the Jameis from the Atlanta game. No More Excuses! Go BUCS!
October 8th, 2016 at 6:17 pm
He is definitely referring to these plays where he is fighting in the pocket risking ankle injuries and knee injuries when he should just go down and fall naturally better than throwing picks or getting injured and yea he should toss the ball out of bounds more too also we need some WR to step up
October 8th, 2016 at 6:44 pm
Would you sign Jonathan cooper for Oline depth ?
October 8th, 2016 at 7:02 pm
i think jason gump ran out of screwup glaser money
gump gave a mill to get shorts and he pulled a hammy within a week he was here. doubt shorts is going to play again this year. 1 mill for 1 catch and less than 7 days. lol
we need justin forsett here also but no money.
i would eat my laptop if “just got paid” fat alvin chipmonk doug martin is productive with a bad hammy
October 8th, 2016 at 8:17 pm
Jabril Peppers (Michigan) what an athlete.
October 8th, 2016 at 8:23 pm
This is really earth shaking stuff! A young QB with two years of college…interrupted each season by baseball and 20 games of NFL experience is still learning some of the finer points of being QB in the NFL.
I’ve heard over and over again that the single toughest job in all of sports is playing QB in the NFL. Of course Kobe Faker could have mastered in a half dozen games or certainly coached any young QB to be a world beater in just 20 games…because Kobe certainly knows more than Koetter and Licht.
Really some of you are starting to embarrass yourself. What you are watching is sooo freaking normal, expected, predictable. A young QB with very limited experience still learning his trade.
Again as 87 and other have suggested PATIENCE!!! He’s still learning and the fact that he and Koetter feel free to talk about theses growing pains is a GOOD thing. They are both confident enough in their own abilities, comfortable enough in their own skins to admit reality. I doubt they give a rat’s arse about Kobe Faker’s opinion. Of course that would place them in the majority here!
October 8th, 2016 at 10:29 pm
We are crying about jameis needs to be accurate…better fundamentals.
..what the hell is jameis learning but rumning for his life at the end of those blowout games when contradicting koetter gaveup already!!
He is learning sloppy mechanics , throwing on 1 backfoot getting blasted. How is he getting good habits? Timing? Lol
I believe lke a decent coah who phrased it…
Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes practice. Jameis getting sacked to learn or taught a lesson like 1 reporter phrased it creates bad habitd, learned behavior, jitterish and bad pocket presence. Koetter is making jameis a gabbert . Instead of confidence he is breaking him down. His press conference emotion has greatly changed. I am sensing a disconnect with jameis. Lovie is a terrible coac but he gave jameis support. I believe he also misses mankins who backed jameis in the lockerrom. I thoughtit would have been a good idea to get a long time backup qb to support him
Im sensing regression coming and we jameis needs support from the FO or vet
Isnt everybody worried about contradicting koetter
Losing culture, no not losing culture
I knew we couldnt make 4 and 6, no ask jamis he wanted to keep playing
It was jameis interception fault, no it wasnt his fault, no it was his fault
Verner had safety support, no it was all on him
No the defense played well, no it didnt
Vjax has to try harder, no he ran the right route
On and on and on
Every press conference he wants to fight the reporters
*did jenna turn dirk diggler down? Damn
This guy is a walking contradiction and consistancy is the number 1 quality that a developing quarterback needs
Everyone watch koetters gameplan mnf…all of you will say kobe was right
October 9th, 2016 at 1:16 am
What the hell are you going on about Lolol
October 9th, 2016 at 2:10 am
Kobe, you are wrong.
October 9th, 2016 at 2:27 am
@Kobe. I sometimes write much longer posts on here than I mean to but I would call them readable. What in the frig were you were saying?
October 9th, 2016 at 2:28 am
…were you saying
October 9th, 2016 at 3:42 am
Its called smart QB play. He doesn’t exactly need to take more sacks because he does well getting away when he gets flushed out, but he still always gets popped in the end. He needs to learn how throw it away or run it out gaining a couple yards if possible..
October 9th, 2016 at 8:22 am
I am blown away at the koetter hatred. The guy is a proven offensive mind and Jameis is really screwing up.
October 9th, 2016 at 9:05 am
Hey Joe. Patriots just released guard jonathan cooper. 2y years old, 6’2 310lbs. Is he worth a kicking of the tires?
October 9th, 2016 at 9:06 am
26 years old
October 9th, 2016 at 9:11 am
Jameis could use a second or more in the pocket. Yes, we do miss mankins. Any one seen Sweezy? Thought i saw him at the comic con convention dressed like frankenstin. Talking like Fred Gwynne
October 18th, 2016 at 10:28 am
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