Heart Acknowledgment Issued By Koetter
October 14th, 2016
Impressed
Yes, the Bucs have had loads of injuries. That doesn’t mean the every one of those guys is soft.
In fact, Dirk Koetter called out one of his guys with heartfelt admiration.
You could hear the postgame passion oozing from Koetter during his chat on the Buccaneers Radio Network earlier this week.
His greatest emphasis came for his rookie defensive end.
“Noah Spence, coming off, no one had thought he was even going to play,” Koetter said. “He goes out there, you know, after dislocating his shoulder last week, comes out and plays. Just a huge effort by our team. Says a lot about our players and what kind of guys we have. Because it would be easy to fold up your tent.”
Spence played a limited role at Carolina, and he played in a shoulder harness after not practicing last week.
It’s great to learn Spence has that kind of drive. And he’s another guy who should benefit immensely from this bye week.
Joe just hopes the shoulder doesn’t dog Spence all season..
October 14th, 2016 at 11:30 am
He goes out there, you know, after dislocating his shoulder last week, comes out and plays…. Because it would be easy to fold up your tent.
he played in a shoulder harness after not practicing last week.
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Dammmmmmmm, that’s what I call having heart and passion. He even made a tackle.
Reads as half complement and half dig. Imagine that, a rookie playing hurt while his arm is in a sling. I thought that was impossible.
Hawaii, imma need you to explain this. A Dline man playing hurt? Say it isn’t so. Lol, lmao, smh.
October 14th, 2016 at 11:30 am
As opposed to not playing with a calf strain. But I digress before permanent banishment from Joe
October 14th, 2016 at 11:34 am
We’re on the same page with that guy DB. Hawaiian will defend him to the death over his pro bowl status. Name a game that guy ever dominated. But I’ll tell you, Ira will promote him for the HOF before he would Simeon Rice. Why? Because Rice was straightforward , media guys don’t like him because he wasn’t all soft and cuddly like Geraldine.
October 14th, 2016 at 11:42 am
No arguements here Chris, in fact your stealing my talking points.
In all fairness, that smiles does belong in the HOF.
October 14th, 2016 at 11:43 am
The Atlanta game this year GMC had a great game. I’ve learned that nothing is ever as the extremists put it. GMC is not HOF worthy. But he is a very good d lineman in the league right now. He is much better than the alternative. And no one here knows whether he is being a pu $$ or said injuries are legitimate. I would like to think they are legit, but I am an optimist and can definitely see the frustration on the injury front.
October 14th, 2016 at 11:44 am
I must have missed the part of this article where McCoy’s name was mentioned. Are you so pathetic that you have nothing else to do? What about Clinton McDonald? Didn’t he mis the game as well?
I’m pretty sure GMC played the entire season last year with a shoulder harness. He played the whole season with a torn rotator. Regardless of how serious you think a calf strain is, the doctors won’t clear McCoy. It wasn’t his decision to not play. But I’m sure you already knew that, because you know everything else.
October 14th, 2016 at 11:45 am
Ha ha ha ha ha
October 14th, 2016 at 11:50 am
Kudos to Spence.
Bucs will never win until the pansy arse soft former face of the franchise is gone. Hopefully it’s not too late to save LVD from cancer93 with a smile. Ah shucks I think I hurt my pinky typing post….
October 14th, 2016 at 12:31 pm
^^^^STUPID^^^
October 14th, 2016 at 12:59 pm
Aunt Geraldine has great upside. What a stand up guy.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:15 pm
You STUPID TOO^^^^
October 14th, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Wow…..why hasn’t he been called soft like other players…..
I get a real kick….an actual belly laugh when I see posters commenting on players injuries….as if they “know” exactly the nature of the injury and whether or not a player is able or unable to play.
I could be wrong but I think most NFL players want to play….they certainly don’t want to risk more serious injury….but they want to play. They have been playing most of their like and they actually like playing.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:35 pm
TBBF
I think we call these guys keyboard warriors. Talk and typing are cheap.
Again if you haven’t been on an NFL sideline to see the collisions up close you have no idea of the violence in the game. Any person who has the cojones as Pablo might say to step out on the field…everybody including MG8 have to be a little crazy.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:38 pm
@StPete,
Excellent point. I’ve been on the field for NFL games. The collisions are mind boggling. Every single tackle is like a train wreck. It’s amazing to me that there aren’t more injuries.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:41 pm
Tampabaybucfan
when it’s the same damn players over and over it becomes less about injuries and more either they are mentally weak and soft like 93 or just bad luck major injury run like Cadillac Williams. Big difference between bad luck injuries and players who ARE always hurt with something. I don’t want to hear the “well he plays DT on the interior his position makes him more likely to get hurt.” garbage or my favorite one he faces 12 blockers on every play…. the fact is he is always hurt whether he plays through it at his normal mediocre level or not is irrelevant. the dude is fragile.
Hey Bighog
How’s Lovie! I see the dean of cursing is Kicking ass and taking names in the cornfileds…
October 14th, 2016 at 1:49 pm
@tmaxcon,
Amazing, but he just keeps on racking up awards, even though he’s fragile. He keeps getting recognized by players, coaches, fans, and media as one of the best at his position. He has missed less games than most other players at his same position over the last 5 years. He just keeps on getting voted captain, and keeps on leading the team in sacks year after year, despite the fact that every DC schemes against him.
It’s also amazing how you can judge his character, even though you’ve never met him. It’s amazing you can judge his heart, when you’ve never stepped in the locker room or on the field with him. You have an amazing talent that is truly being wasted on this here website.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:50 pm
that shoulder issue will eventually shut spence down. He’s already undersized and under-strength for the role they want him to play at the Pro level, and battling bigger stronger linemen while the shoulder is compromised is bound to either aggravate that injury or contribute to another one.
The biggest tragedy would be if this injury spills over into an offseason starting with surgery or rehab. He’s one of those guys who i expect to benefit greatly from his first true NFL offseason if his health allows him to attack it fully.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:53 pm
@ tmaxcon
That’s really not what I’m talking about…..sure, some get injured more than others….Stocker comes to mind.
What I am talking about is posters accusing a player like Sweezy of faking it so he can collect a paycheck….and, as much as I disliked ASJ character wise….I doubt very seriously that he wanted to sit out….Lovie let him hang….
Why on earth would Sweezy want to lose his starting job? There is absolutely not one shred of evidence that any of these players don’t want to play.
October 14th, 2016 at 1:59 pm
Hawaiian Buc
maybe I’d buy in if you quoted all the 3 rd down plays, and or second half momentum changers that cancer93 has made versus always having to go to meaningless awards that have ZERO to do with the goal of the game which is to WIN… cancer93 has made less than 10 impact plays that changed the damn game in 7 years… not acceptable Raise your standards fine sir!
Trade cancer93 to Dallas… Screw Jerry!
October 14th, 2016 at 2:07 pm
@tmaxcon,
You mean like the 2 game winning plays he made against Atlanta, in consecutive years? Or maybe the tackle for loss he made on 3rd and 1 against the Rams this year? Or maybe the things that he does that don’t show up on the stats sheet.
As I stated before, at the Panthers game they had a film session about McCoy before the game. They showed several plays how he completely blew the play up, even though he didn’t make the tackle. Those are the kind of plays that don’t show up on the stat sheet, but show up all over the film room. He makes those kind of plays every quarter. If he wasn’t, someone on the team would have said something. Some coach on his way out would have said something, even if it was off the record. But you just don’t hear that with GMC. You ever wonder why, or do you really think you see something nobody else does?
October 14th, 2016 at 2:08 pm
The arguments about players’ skills/heart and their injury prone nature or lack thereof are completely separate arguments.
Doug Martin would be a great example…..he gets injured, sure….and too much….but no one can question his skill or his heart.
I think it is very unfortunate that players get injured as their NFL lifespan is short enough…..some are fortunate enough to sign a large guaranteed contract before their injury (Carl Nicks)…..and others jeopardize ending their careers before making the big bucks.
I’d rather see a great guy get paid before injury than a total jerk make big money…..and there are too many to mention.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:23 pm
Hawaiian
again you quote the same three plays over and over… in a 7 year career it should be easy to recall 10 to 15 impact plays not the fact he got the best of Ryan on two plays over two years… what 4 games in 2 years so that’s avg 60 plays a game and mccoy gets 2 good plays out of 240… yes I know mccoy does not play all 60 snaps so let’s prevent another spin or excuse from you and so he plays 40 so 2 out of 160 snaps… Amazing odds. and yes I fully understand he is facing all 11 blockers on every play that he is on the field.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:45 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-top-5-defensive-tackles-in-the-league.html/amp/
125 pressures and 30.5 sacks… top rated per pff at the time of this article.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:47 pm
@tmaxcon,
I couldn’t tell you 10 to 15 plays from Warren Sapp, and he’s the best to ever play the position. Most of the time, a D-Lineman’s play goes under the radar. It’s not like we watch the line instead of the ball. he’s got like 40 sacks in his career, so I guess I could point to any of those as impact plays. Of course, I’m sure you are of the thought that unless the sack comes in the last drive of the fourth quarter to seal the game, it means nothing. I do, however, see him blow plays up in every single game. I also see times where he blows the play up, but his fellow lineman are nowhere to be found, or his secondary is 12 yards off the receiver. No defensive player in the history of the NFL can dominate a game without good play around him. Football is called the ultimate team game for a reason.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:48 pm
That’s not including disruptions on run plays and tackles for loss. Seems like a lot of positive plays to me. But he also helped them up after all those plays so they don’t count right?
October 14th, 2016 at 2:54 pm
Name a game he’s dominated? You guys love him cause he’s colorful, he dyes his hair. He’s a sweetheart that helps guy up. There’s no nasty to his game, he’s finesse. Yeah, he fires off quick, gets an offsides penalty every game, and when the team and the season goes south , so does he. We talked about LVDs no tackle game, how many times has Gerald had a one tackle or blank page? It’s always , well he’s playing hurt , blah blah . He’s the one who brings the most attention to his numerous aches and pains. Keyboard warrior my arse. I know what someone can do with a strained calf. I’m sure if he wanted to play, the dr would keep him from playing with a friggin strain
October 14th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
@tmaxcon,
I’d bet my house you are a fantasy football player. You’re probably one of those guys that never played sports, but always loved to check out the stats, which makes you feel like you understand the game. Barrett Ruud had 15 tackles, so he is really good. How many tackles did Warren Sapp have in the Super Bowl? Does that mean he wasn’t any good in that game?
October 14th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
Moj
Cheat sheet just published an article calling Winston the next Peyton Manning. Congrats, you played yourself.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Sapp had a Sack, the entire DLine was in the backfield all game. Sapp signature play, blew up reverse from Young to Rice, knocked both out for the year. Served notice to the NFL, the Bucs weren’t weak pansy ass Creamsicles anymore.
October 14th, 2016 at 2:59 pm
The numerous times Sapp chased down Brett Favre, incredible rilvary when both teams met each year
October 14th, 2016 at 3:00 pm
Keep going on Sapp? Rice? Hell I can name you games Greg Spires dominated .
October 14th, 2016 at 3:01 pm
Hawaiian Buc
Try again… I don’t play fantasy football. In addition, I never compare him to sapp. I just point out the obvious fact that GMC is merely a good player not a great player that does not play with the passion and effort I want in a team leader. simple as that. you can go all fantasy this or he did not sign a autograph or whatever childish crap you want to bring to the table the bottom line he is not elite and is always always hurt. he does not dominate consistently period. bucs will not win consistently until he is gone.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:01 pm
We don’t have those kinds of players, it’s why we’ve been weak panty arses every year for 10-15 yrs.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:04 pm
@Chris,
I’ve already addressed most of the BS you just wrote, but you just choose to ignore it. You still can’t explain why coaches, fans, media, and front office execs rave about the guy. I guess you’re smarter than them. You’re the best!!!
No, what you don’t understand about the NFL is you can’t get cleared by a Dr. just because you want to play. I know you’re of a simple mind, but hopefully you can understand that these teams invest money into these players. They aren’t going to clear McCoy to play one game when he is at risk to re-injure it and miss multiple games. If they would have allowed him to play, he would have played. Even if they did, if he can’t do his job out there, would you even want him to play? Are you going to tell me that a calf isn’t important to a D-Lineman? No, you would have killed him for not being Reggie White and Warren Sapp.
Again, continue to think what you think. I love it. I love stating facts and watching you 3 stooges continue to bring up weak point after weak point, when literally EVERYONE else knows better. It does nothing but make you look like the idiot we already knew you are. Please, I beg of you, don’t stop.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:09 pm
@DB- WHY else would you draft winston # 1 overall with the type of off the field issues he had? Because you felt he could be the next Brad johnson? They didn’t say he is already, they were talking about potential, and he has that potentI’ll.
If that last one didn’t work for you, here is a different list, again putting GMC in the top 5. I see a common thread in just abouthe every analysis. If you don’t like this one either don’t worry there are millions of them, all having him in top 5.
http://www.scout.com/nfl/story/1561746-nfl-s-top-5-defensive-tackles-for-2015
October 14th, 2016 at 3:10 pm
@3 Stooges
Thanks for all those specific examples. You know what, you are so smart. You have got this whole thing figured out. We can’t win until we get rid of McCoy. Thanks for all your wonderful insight. He’s weak, fragile, and quits on his coaches. He’s only in it for the money. He’s not even as good as Greg Spires. He’s never dominated a game, never made a significant play. He’s done nothing over his career. I’ve turned the corner. Thanks guys!
October 14th, 2016 at 3:15 pm
@Mojiska,
No, those are all wrong. We don’t pay any attention to things like that. We also don’t pay any attention to all his teammates who love him and do nothing but rave about him. We don’t listen to all of his different coaches (and there’s been a lot of them) that continue to say how great he is. The guys in the front office’s opinions mean nothing too. You know what is really irrelevant – when coaches on other teams talk about him and how he gives them nightmares. We especially ignore all the players on opposing teams who talk about how much of a nightmare he is to go against. They don’t know what they are talking about when they put him in the top 100 every year. Those Pro Bowls- nothing but a popularity contest – and we all know how players from a city like Tampa and a bad team like the Bucs is always the most popular. Those all pro seasons mean nothing, and should absolutely be ignored.
No, instead, we must focus on what Larry, Curly, and Moe think about him. After all, they watch coach’s film every week. They know the play calls, and they spend hours upon hours breaking down film. They check the stat sheet after every game, which gives them great insight as to how the game went. They are the guys who know everything. You are stupid if you disagree with them.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Down Goes Hawaiian!
October 14th, 2016 at 3:25 pm
Permit me to be a bit in the middle when it comes to GMC….
Sure, he makes lots of money (not his fault)
Sure, he gets injured (not his fault)
Yes, he gets blamed for being a “leader” on a losing team (partially his fault)
No, he’s not Warren Sapp (that’s Sapp’s fault)
He is a good to great player who most of our opponents would take and none wants in our lineup
My own personal opinion that GMC gets the brunt of frustration from Buc fans who are very tired of losing……we have fired Raheem, Schiano & Lovie so they can no longer vent on them……the Glazers are out of reach and the Myron Lewis’ of the team are long gone.
If you want to be really fair……some heat should come down on LVD, after all, he has somewhat disappeared since he signed his big deal.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:28 pm
Will agree that he doesn’t make those around him better, doesn’t elevate the team. But he is far from a cancer and the reason we lose. His play is solid. The team is better when he is on the field.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:30 pm
I love how Hawaiian goes all personal. Not once called him a name. But it’s cool, be fiercely, fiercely loyal to your guy . I call McCoy soft, I call him the leader of………what exactly? A defense that is perennially a sieve? A face of a franchise that has gone nowhere with him, and without him? Perhaps still nowhere but hell, you could replace him and still be what ? The last place team in the South for 5, 6 , 7 years? Hell we’re that with him. For most of our 40 years we’ve had weak ass soft players, caring more about other things, magazines, video games, his brand than winning. Stay classy Hawaiian, true ignorance is shown when you resort to childish name calling and throwing a tantrum.
October 14th, 2016 at 3:36 pm
Really Mo, did we win the last game? Did Derek Anderson throw fm for 400 yrds and win like he did his previous two starts with McCoy causing all kinds of havok?
October 14th, 2016 at 3:42 pm
2014 NFL Calf Rodgers strained his calf in week 16. He did not miss any games but was clearly hobbled through his final game and the post season
2013.
Sad when qb plays through the same injury. I scream you scream we all scream for ice cream.
You can play through a calf strain says doctor.
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/aaron-rodgers-tired-of-talking-about-ailing-calf-it-is-what-it-is-b99425361z1-288499201.html
October 14th, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Careful TBBF! You are dangerously close to making sense about GMC!!!
I agree 1000%! He’s not Sapp and most likely will not be a HOF’er. What I will say is this; we are a better defense WITH him than without him. Those screaming to get rid of him would be the 1st to criticize getting rid of him once we no longer have him!!! SMH
I almost forgot what this story was about! Way to step up guys! Go Bucs!
October 14th, 2016 at 3:48 pm
you could replace him and still be what ? The last place team in the South for 5, 6 , 7 years?
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Lmao. But but but he’s a top 5 DT. Funny cuz last year he was #1 in the league according to some who shall remain nameless. Maybe next year he’ll drop to top 10 but still get paid as the #2 DT in the league.
But players and experts like him, great in that case, playoffs here we come.
Signed,
Curly
October 14th, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Who’s Larry? Why don’t we have Shep?!
@DB55- If you’re signing as Curly, you must do your posts spinning on the floor going, “woob-woob-woob-woob!”
I will not tolerate anything less!
October 14th, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Bottom of the league in sacks , points allowed with him. What without him? Bottom of the league or above it?
October 14th, 2016 at 4:03 pm
I’ll be Curly Joe, the crappy, not as funny not near enough clone of Curly
October 14th, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Lol moderation , too many shots at the Golden Child.
October 14th, 2016 at 4:05 pm
When you are a Buc fan who went through a 1985 2-14 season and draft Bo Jackson as your # 1 overall pick and he won’t play for you……being concerned about a GMC seems like a minor issue. I try to keep things in perspective.
October 14th, 2016 at 4:07 pm
So is it “Bo Curly & Larry”?
October 14th, 2016 at 4:24 pm
Buc
Lmao.
October 14th, 2016 at 4:39 pm
@Tmaxcon: 11 games to play with 7 games to win to show improvement over the last REGIME! Seems to me that Lovie is doing just as bad as his replacement here in THE BIG SOMBRERO!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
October 14th, 2016 at 4:46 pm
How does losing your best Defensive tackle make your team better?
I can play along and see how you would think McCoy is good but not great. Sure ok whatever. Let’s go with that. But if we cut McCoy or trade him, who the hell is going to replace him? Akeem spence? You really think this team is better off starting Akeem spence over Gerald McCoy? Please explain further how that helps our team.
October 14th, 2016 at 4:47 pm
I thought this article was about Noah Spence????
October 14th, 2016 at 4:52 pm
Db55. You really think a QB with a leg injury is equal to a lineman with the same injury?
Do you not know anything about football and leverage? A linemans legs are under constant pressure. They are trying to push a 300 LB lineman around on every single play. That is very different than a QB that just stands in the pocket and throws the football. A foot or leg injury to a lineman on either side of the line is very serious. A WR or QB can limp along and do just enough to make a play. A d lineman with a bum leg is useless. He would not get any leverage and would be easy to block.
October 14th, 2016 at 5:03 pm
@Architek,
No, every article is about McCoy.
October 14th, 2016 at 5:14 pm
@Trubucfan22,
I’ll answer for him:
“You really think a QB with a leg injury is equal to a lineman with the same injury?” Yes, if that lineman is GMC
“Do you not know anything about football and leverage?” No and no. All I know is McCoy is bad, and I am right, and he is soft, and I am right, and he is a cancer, and I am right, and we are better off without him on the team.
October 14th, 2016 at 5:23 pm
1. How does losing your best Defensive tackle make your team better?
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Allow me to provide you with an example, Mario Williams (DE) left a losing buff bills team and went to MIA. Buff has been winning as of late and MIA is even worse. Mario avg double digit sacks for the last 4 years.
2. Db55. You really think a QB with a leg injury is equal to a lineman with the same injury?
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Where I grew up 350lb lineman were tougher than QBs. I never said it wouldn’t hurt. I’m sure Noah Spence shoulder hurt. But according to the doctors in the article above you can play with a strained calf.
October 14th, 2016 at 5:26 pm
You know what? Hawaii inspired me. Forget the answers above instead use this.
https://youtu.be/c9zDSJGwdd4