Koetter Suggests Chucky Is Off Base
October 12th, 2016
“Hey Koetter, it’s not like I never coached a mother&@#$ing young quarterback! Ever hear of Bruce Gradkowski?”
Dirk Koetter made two things perfectly clear yesterday in his day-after presser.
1. Chucky is not coaching the Bucs and does not know what Koetter’s gameplans are.
2. Koetter loves America!
After the past couple of games, specifically the Monday Night Football win over Carolina, it sure seems like Koetter went turtle and did his best to take the football out of the hands of America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, as if Koetter is scared of what Jameis might do with the ball — lost faith or trust in Jameis.
More than a few fans have perceived the same, as Joe has experienced on social media. Koetter was directly asked about this after Chucky, the lone coach who won a Super Bowl with the Bucs, the game analyst for Monday Night Football, thought Koetter running on third-and-long shows Koetter doesn’t trust Jameis.
Koetter, with a smile on his face if not a giggle, made it clear that Chucky is not in any way consulted on his gameplans and Koetter is 100 percent behind Jameis.
“Jon Gruden is, maybe, one of the most qualified,” Koetter said about NFL analysts in general. “That wasn’t a lack of confidence [in Jameis]. Again, when analysts say stuff like that, that’s like – when Jon [Gruden] was coaching and someone said that about him, you know what he’d be standing up here saying? ‘That guy doesn’t know what I’m thinking or anything about my team.’
“[Chucky] gets paid to talk on TV. I get paid to coach the Bucs. Those guys can say whatever they want. Yeah, we ran it on third-and-nine. You know what? We also ran it on third-and-three and third-and-five and we were two out of three running the ball on third down and we weren’t nearly that successful throwing the ball.
“It had no reflection at all on my confidence in Jameis Winston. There can be no person on this planet, other than his parents, that’s more confident in Jameis Winston than me.”
So there you have it. Koetter is behind Jameis a full 100 percent. Rather than losing trust in Jameis, perhaps Jameis just isn’t near as far along in his development as perhaps we were led to believe, or perhaps we were too teased with his flashes of greatness?
As a commenter suggested yesterday, maybe we all forget Jameis is 22. Had he decided to use up all his college eligibility, he’d still be quarterbacking Florida State, not a moribund NFL franchise that has won but two of its last nine games.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:12 am
I believe in Jameis. I know Koetter believes in Jameis because his future as the Bucs head coach depends on Jameis. Jameis is young and he hasn’t had his running back most of the season and the defense hasn’t played as well as I thought they would. I think the teams arrow is pointing up. What this team need is some stability so we are going to have to be a little patient.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:30 am
J Win and Koetter are sticking with the game plan. I didn’t agree with a balanced attack 30run/30pass. especially running to their D strength and after ATL torched them, BUT gues what we got the W!!! All that matters….ugly as it was we had so many starters out it was truly a great win.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:36 am
I know a lot of fans were against that 3rd and 9 draw play which brought Aguayo out onto the field to miss the field goal. In Koetter’s defense, Rodgers did rip off some 10 yard runs on that exact same play earlier in the game. I don’t think it was giving up on Winston.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:38 am
I thought it was a flashback to 78. A young QB overthrowing receivers with every pass and field goal adventures…The accuracy is concerning. Inaccurate QBs don’t last long in the NFL…
October 12th, 2016 at 7:40 am
Young James has been in a bit of a funk the last few and Koetter is trying to take some of the pressure off while Jameis works through it. Exactly what a good leader should do. Its kind of cool that the oline stepped up in the running game to help bail out the team out. If the Bucs can keep that up and Jameis doesn’t feel like he has to do it all, the connection between his ears might start working better again.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:40 am
oops, one to many outs
October 12th, 2016 at 7:43 am
Like what’s Dirk going to say ” Jameis is still young and has been inconsistant so at this point I have no confidence in him” ???? The whole game plan is to make Jameis do less and you will never see that kind of play call when a rodgers, romo, wilson ect is your qb. It wasn’t jw’s best night so the coach didn’t have a ton of confidence in him, so what?
October 12th, 2016 at 7:49 am
Look dirk can say whatever we want but all of us has watched football long enough and we know what type of call that is. It’s a safe call. With the inaccuracy of Jameis and him trying to eliminate the risk of a turnover. That’s the reason for that call. 3rd and 9 the majority is going to try and get the first. Unless you are backed up in your own zone and going to punt it.. But he had to say that coachspeak
October 12th, 2016 at 8:00 am
Man, a great number of you all are missing what he said, I haven’t checked the stats but if your “so predictable” then do something different. #32 was running hard! Why not run it on 3rd n long? Hell it works more than you think, in today’s NFL. Pass happy league n what not.
I agree with the call to run. It has nothing to do with #3 being “off” but more so the fact that we could’ve made that first down. #32 got a couple/few 10yd runs during the game.
Only the selfish cry after a win, a WIN
Sweet mother of pearl!!!
We WON!!!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2016 at 8:01 am
Maybe, just maybe, Coach Koetter is trying to balance out the ‘pressure’. He clearly put the pressure on the OLine Monday night to essentially do a much better job of run blocking. He also put the pressure on Jacquizz to step up and show what he could do. And oh ya, he put the pressure on a rookie kicker to show that he deserved to be kicking at the NFL level. And in the process I think he showed Jameis that it doesn’t have to ALL fall on his shoulders; that there are still other playmakers on this injury-plagued team.
October 12th, 2016 at 8:05 am
Actions speak louder than words coach you along with logical Bucs fans all are scared to death of Freeman 2.0
October 12th, 2016 at 8:08 am
I have not lost faith in Winston he is in his second year and still developing. However, I want to win and win now and I will acknowledged that no matter how people spin our losses this season, Winston is struggling and I was all for running the football. If you go back to the tape of the last game when we are in the red zone Winston throws into triple coverage to Evans while on the top of the screen there is a WR clearly wide open at that same point. Gruden himself proceeded to say that if he was Koetter after that throw he probably would run it to. Until Winston can accurately read the defenses and take what they are giving him we need to dial the passing game back and continue to run. I want to win period and if it means running the ball and playing it safe I am all for that.
October 12th, 2016 at 8:09 am
JOE
Sorry brother, just can’t understand some of the nit picking our fellow fans are doing after a win. JBF is the greatest site for all things BUCS!!!!
BucsNation has a more reasoned followers.
Shame on you posters.
Oh and no I ain’t going no where posters, I’m here cuz I live JBF. Love it or leave it alone
October 12th, 2016 at 8:11 am
Scared of 10-6 Freeman? Jameis has not beaten Freeman’s rookie record or had as many wins in as many games started, so as for now Jameis can’t hold Freemans jock. What Jameis has is the leadership and enthusiasm that Freeman NEVER had.
October 12th, 2016 at 8:14 am
Oh and Freeman went 10-6 with Maurice Stovall and Sammie Stroughter as his WR. He didn’t have Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson.
October 12th, 2016 at 8:15 am
Grr…I meant first full 16 game season record, not rookie
October 12th, 2016 at 9:20 am
Um… not to revise but Freeman had Kellen Winslow Jr and a promising Mike Williams to throw the ball to as well as a 1000 yard rusher in Lagarette Blount.
October 12th, 2016 at 9:21 am
The whole world thought we would pass on 3rd & 9 except for the Panther defense…..I was surprised it didn’t work. If it did work, Koetter would be a genius. The missed field goal didn’t help things.
Koetter’s job and the Buc’s future lies in the hands of Jameis Winston….I don’t think losing confidence is an option.
October 12th, 2016 at 9:33 am
I disagree with Koetter, 87 has more confidence in Jameis than both him and his parents combined.
October 12th, 2016 at 9:38 am
DK knows Famous better than Chucky G ever will. The Gruden worship is getting old. As DK pointed out, Gruden gets paid to pontificate on the boob tube. DK gets paid to coach. I will enjoy the win these next two weeks. Bucs won’t be the seriously Walking Wounded when they face the 49ers, thank gawd!!
October 12th, 2016 at 9:39 am
“Everything will be alright if we just keep dancing like we’re 22….”
Yes folks he’s a baby. 22 YEARS OLD!
Some of you want to throw Freeman around when they are entirely different animals. One’s a goat, and the others a lion. On and off the field. Who gives an F about what Freeman did in his 2nd year? What did he do in his 3rd, 4th and 5th? What might Jameis do in his 3rd, 4th and 5th?
Predraft some of you wanted Phillip Rivers. Well he’s in what his 9th season right now and his team is 1-4. How about Drew Brees? That idea was floated around too before they drafted JW. His team is 1-3.
How do you think Panthers fans feel today? From 15-1 to 1-4. Do you think they are whining about their QB like some Bucs fans are today? Are they pissed off at Rivera?
Yes the game was gifted to the Bucs, but that’s happened in reverse for the past 5 years or more now. Be happy, or maybe you’d like to be a Saints, Chargers, or Panthers fan right now.
October 12th, 2016 at 9:41 am
Chris Says:
October 12th, 2016 at 9:33 am
“I disagree with Koetter, 87 has more confidence in Jameis than both him and his parents combined.”
Ha ha ha ha ha…you might be right.
October 12th, 2016 at 10:11 am
Once Nartin gets back those rushing yards will come. Could you imagine giving Martin that many carries against a worse team in the 49ers? Its the perfect way to get Evans open! As long as Janeis keeps working on his game that offense can work until we draft another receiver.
October 12th, 2016 at 10:13 am
Seems to me Gruden is right in his analysis.
October 12th, 2016 at 10:30 am
It’s just math. Throwing on 3rd and 9 produces far more first downs and therefore, far more points, than running does. Every coach who thinks about football properly knows or should know this and anyone who doesn’t should find another profession. It’s all math: a present value calculation. Kicking vs punting vs going for it. When to use timeouts. Throw vs. pass. And so on. Dirk is either ignorant or scared and he better snap out of it or we will go 6-10.
October 12th, 2016 at 10:37 am
Yeah, we ran it on third-and-nine. You know what? We also ran it on third-and-three and third-and-five and we were two out of three running the ball on third down and we weren’t nearly that successful throwing the ball.
Seems like an admission of guilt to me.
October 12th, 2016 at 11:17 am
@1987- Winston looks like Freeman in the sense that he throws into double coverage, hasn’t shown he is a franchise type qb (yet) and constantly over throws wide open receivers
Instead of getting better he’s getting worse and has turned into a qb who needs a running game over a qb who makes those around him better
October 12th, 2016 at 11:31 am
Joe, maybe you didn’t ask the right question. Maybe Koetter has faith in Jameis, but what about his receivers? Could the VJax decline be impacting his play calling and game planing?
October 12th, 2016 at 11:45 am
Jameis Winston is completing 27% of his downfield throws ( 20 yards or more) since he’s been in the NFL. Winston is playing like GARBAGE, poor decisions, overthrowing wide open receivers, holding the ball. He’s not playing like a 1st overall pick. He’s playing like a mid-round pick, he has to play better, for the Bucs to have any chance at winning. You can bring in Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Greg Olsen and he will still struggle with his overthrows.
October 12th, 2016 at 12:00 pm
EXCELLENT point!
Thanks for that insight. Totally blew past Joe.
October 12th, 2016 at 12:13 pm
LakelandBuc Says:
“He’s playing like a mid-round pick, he has to play better, for the Bucs to have any chance at winning.”
Says the fan that has high expectations for this team in order for them to be considered any good in his mind. A 4-5 game winning streak. Is that right Lakeland? That’s what you said last night.
Here was my drunken retort….
Buc1987 Says:
October 11th, 2016 at 11:41 pm
Lakeland…that’s what it takes for you?
A 4-5 game win streak?
Well then I’m MILES behind you. Carry on with your quest. That won’t happen until NEXT season.
I like your posts most of the time, but you might need to snap back to reality just a bit.
I’m sorry, it’s late but my gawd some of you need to come down to earth as to WHAT you expected this team to be in 2016.
This TEAM keeps recycling coaches every 2-4 years and give this first year coach a break for ef’s sake.
4-5 game winning streak? I can’t talk to fans like you anymore. I have no idea where you are coming from when you talk 4-5 game winning streaks during Koetter’s first season as a HC with a 2nd yr QB. YOU fans are being unrealistic, and that includes YOU Joe. You as a FAN knows this.
I understand the impatience, but SOME of you guys want miracles at this point.
You want Raheem back? You want Schiano or Lovie back?
Guess what? They are NOT coming back.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU bitc*ed about Raheem, Schiano, Lovie, this, that and the other. Now it’s onto Koetter, the next victim. Talkin about 4-5 game streaks and shyte.
THIS FAN BASE NEEDS TO WAKE UP TO REALITY!
You ARE a fan of the WORST team in the NFL. YOU take what you can get. Every WIN in every season MEANS something to you. Winning 4-5 in a row is MIRACULOUS at this poin in time. YET some you EXPECT it… and give me a break. Buc up and grow a pair. Yes that means a lot of you.
That was profound huh Joe? Well your site is starting to bring that out in me.
October 12th, 2016 at 1:12 pm
Tampa Tony Says:
October 12th, 2016 at 11:17 am
Instead of getting better he’s getting worse and has turned into a qb who needs a running game over a qb who makes those around him better
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Didn’t anyone ever tell you to think before you speak (or type)? Getting worse and turning into a QB who needs a running game??
Newsflash: Every QB needs a good running game. Every good team needs a running game.
The Bucs last year had the top RB tandem in the league! Winston had an outstanding running game while at FSU. This is who he has always been. Yes, he needs to play better than he has the last 3 games, but he has not changed into a different QB. I swear some of you just love showing off your complete lack of intelligence on a regular basis.
October 12th, 2016 at 3:02 pm
I don’t know what Koetter or some of you are expecting out of Jameis. Does he look like a QB that is going to play like he did in the Atlanta game ALL the time? NO. Even his stats in the Rams game (405 yards/3 TD’s 1 INT) weren’t what they SHOULD have been. The Rams playing prevent defense gave him 150+ yards and 2 TD’s more than he should have gotten. The other 3 games he looked good on ONE DRIVE where he scored a TD, and that’s IT. You are NOT going to have a running game EVERY week and need to be accurate to make up for it on some weeks. Does ANYBODY know of ANY QB’s that were not accurate that eventually became accurate? Cause I can’t think of ANY of them. You are either accurate OR you are not, and Jameis is NOT accurate so far in his first 2 years. We had/have a QB (MG8) that has stats that are just as good and we got him in the 3rd round. Is Winston a better cheerleader? Yes. Is Winston a better leader? Who knows? You lead by example and Jameis is NOT leading by example. He talks a good game and has faith in himself but that really doesn’t matter that much. Most QB’s have faith in themselves but NOT all of them are accurate and can back it up. He already has 2 games in his first 18 where he has thrown 4 INT’s and MG8 has ZERO. Wonder if he is going to do it again this year? Hope not. Does Jameis have more upside than Glennon has? Maybe, maybe not. Like I said, their stats are very similar and Mike’s are actually a little better. I hope and pray that I am wrong about JW because I know that Koetter’s job and our future depends on it. Go BUCS!
October 12th, 2016 at 3:29 pm
Sorry about being so negative after a WIN but the article did suggest that DK had/has lost faith in Winston. I wouldn’t blame him if he did after the last four games. Bad decisions, being inaccurate, and too many turnovers have led to us ALMOST losing ALL four. I know he didn’t have ANY turnovers Monday but we STILL almost lost because of our kicker. Jameis not being able to put it in the endzone (except once) put too much pressure on Aguayo. I sure hope JW can turn things around after the bye, but I’m NOT going to hold my breath. Winston looks like he is ONLY going to win us about 6 games this year.
October 12th, 2016 at 4:59 pm
When you say he lost faith him it makes it sound permanent. Jameis was off Monday night. He just threw into double coverage – (not seeing the field well) – the play before…Koetter, did the right thing for that play, that game and how his players where playing at the time.
Isn’t that what a coach is supposed to do?
October 12th, 2016 at 6:00 pm
Jameis is the man and we are 2-3 this season I’m extremely happy
October 12th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Until DK wins a championship, he should just bend over and say: “Thank you, sir! May I have another?”
October 12th, 2016 at 7:15 pm
^Exactly. Gruden has forgotten more about football than Koetter ever will know
October 12th, 2016 at 7:45 pm
It seems to me it almost every football game teams do a draw on third and long. Big deal. Some of you complainers should just go in route for the patriots.
October 12th, 2016 at 7:56 pm
Whether he trust him or not is moot. The issue is his lack of balls when it comes to calling said plays. He has none that show out on the field. Way too conservative, I mean what do we have to lose. We looked pathetic out there Monday night. We just got lucky we played a team that’s in complete disarray right now. Ugly ugly ugly
Not liking him as an OC and HC, way to much on his plate IMO
October 13th, 2016 at 1:56 am
It’s crystal clear Koetter realizes he cannot depend on Winston to throw it s many times as he was because his inexperience is definitely coming through. Not to mention he’s just not on in terms of accuracy lately. The turnovers have KILLED our chances at winning during that losing streak and he knows that. Hence the reason he came out with an intent to slow the game down for Jameis and run run run it. His actions speak way louder than his words.