Broncos Cornerbacks: Jameis = Very Predictable
October 2nd, 2016
Hard words from the Broncos cornerbacks after tonight’s game.
With all this talk about the Bucs’ sour culture, Joe decided to spend a bunch of time in the Broncos’ locker room after tonight’s game.
Joe learned a lot, especially from the Denver cornerbacks.
The Broncos’ Pro Bowl cornerbacks, Chris Harris, Jr., and helmet-wielding, cabbie-slugging, Adderrall-popping, coach-cussing, referee-charging, pistol-friendly, granny-hassling Aqib Talib were very happy to talk about America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, and it wasn’t pretty.
“We just knew he was going to force the ball to No. 13. We knew he was going to force the ball all day to Mike Evans and we would have the chance to come out with a couple of picks,” Harris said.
“It was something that we was expecting. We played a great defense and he threw it exactly where we wanted him to throw it to.”
Harris even served upadvice for Jameis: “He just has to be smarter with the football. Versus a team like us, you can’t come out throwing picks like that. You can’t do that. They got to run the ball. They got to help him out.”
Joe can’t argue with that.
Joe asked Harris if the Broncos were trying to bait Jameis into picks. Harris says that’s unnecessary with Jameis.
“Man, he’s just going to throw them, man,” Harris said. “We just knew that once he goes through those reads, he’s just going to the throw the football. So we didn’t have to bait him at all.
“Whatever his reads is, he’s going to throw that read. So I don’t know if he’s coached to do that, or whatever it is. We just knew that, regardless, if you’re right there, he’s going to throw the ball.”
Talib, who had two picks today, said he knew what was coming on the first Jameis throw of the game, a near pick-6.
“Vincent Jackson was my man,” Talib said. “He ran under. He got cut by the inside guy. And I knew they was going to throw a follow; it’s a route concept. So I kind of waited for [Harris] to run it, and jumped it. So good call by coach, man. We had a good idea of what they was going to run.”
“We watched the tape. We see how confident [Jameis] is with his arm. So we knew we would have 5-to-6 opportunities today to get our hands on a football.”
Talib said his second pick was just him sitting in Cover-2 waiting for Jameis to attempt to throw the ball into a tight window. Talib said he waited on Vincent Jackson’s route and simply undercut it.
Unless the Bucs find a running game, cornerbacks around the league will continue to salivate when Jameis drops back to pass.
October 2nd, 2016 at 9:58 pm
Jameis is predictable because the organization failed to provide him with reliable weapons. Counting on vjax and Martin to be productive and injury free without atiquit depth is bordering incompetence
October 2nd, 2016 at 9:59 pm
If the “DAMAGED HAMSTER” had played perhaps it would have been different. Probably not.
October 2nd, 2016 at 9:59 pm
Get some dam receiver,s that can go deep with speed,corner backs will not be able to sit on the route. To translate the only receiver the Bucs have is Evans. Instead of calling out his players,this coach need to listen to the other team corner backs.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:05 pm
Damn, the secret is out on how to stop the Bucs
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:07 pm
I refuse to throw JW under the bus. While I will not be singing his praises, it’s also interesting to see what he is seeing. I don’t know if any of you saw some of the replays of the receivers when JW drops back, but literally nobody was open. Like Talib said, they knew JW was going to force the ball to M.E. and there’s no other receivers on this team that are capable of beating 1 on 1 coverage. Yes, that is an indictment on the once great V Jax but he’s a shell of his former self. Hump is still a solid 3 or 4 but we are missing a 32 receiver that can stretch the field and make defenses respect us. Let’s just hope JW can rebound with a solid performance next Mon night and get some confidence back. Going 2-0 in the division and beating Carolina could make a lot of wounds feel better.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:07 pm
Talib and Blount given away for nearly free to the Pats because Schiano was in love with Bill.
Anywho Talib made a great play on the 2nd INT, Winston might have held onto the ball an extra .25 of a second too long, but on tape it looked like Winston had an opening very briefly, Talib did a great job of getting Winston to throw that.
On the first play I have no idea what happened, but Winston had multiple WRs in the same place running the same pattern, I don’t know if he was trying to throw it deeper and the under WR cut under him or what, but it was a bad play design in anycase and Winston shouldn’t thrown it.
As for everything else hard to say since Dirk quit on his team and stopped coaching at halftime.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:09 pm
Jameis is a gunslinger… Just like Favre in my opinion. He would get away with it more if his release wasn’t so slow. We all knew this defense would be a great test for him. He failed miserably. But I still believe…. I think.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:12 pm
Lost a lot of respect today for Coach Koetter. He quit on his team. He hit the nail on the head when he said he is the one that has to fix the culture. Not the way to fix it, coach. I’m going to try to not quit on you and start thinking about the draft and a new head coach that doesn’t quit on his team and the fans.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:13 pm
Thats what happens when we only have one real threat at receiver.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:14 pm
“Versus a team like us, you can’t come out throwing picks like that.” Can someone say egotistical. Not to say they haven’t earned it.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:15 pm
BigPoppaBuc – He is a gunslinger and his release isn’t really a problem, his problem is WR’s that can’t get open and that’s a huge issue when you don’t have a running game. This was an elite D, this is what they do, all will be OK as soon as we play Atlanta or New Orleans again.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:15 pm
Can’t fault them for setting the obvious on tape because I was sitting at home calling plays I see coming. Dirk has been a better coach than play caller this year for sure and Winston did what Winston does they were not wrong. You have to be smarter with the ball especially with a defense like ours
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:16 pm
Denver just implied that Winston is dumb as a post. Might be true, or he might be over aggressive. Time will tell.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:18 pm
Remember when everyone said, “Oh, we don’t need to resign Martin. He’s easily replaceable”….
I think we’re seeing how sorely he’s missed. When another team doesn’t have to worry about a running game, they can easily key in on your best receiver.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:18 pm
This is disturbing. This is Lovie-D stuff. Basic stuff that a kid with Madden can pick apart.
I’m losing it for Koetter.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:20 pm
Somebody here has the gol to say Beat Carolina? PLEASE! Even if Cam Newton does not start because of the concussion protocol, it won’t make one difference. Need I remind you forgetful Buc fans..2nd and 3rd string QB’s have a reputation of making their bones on us. Backup QB? No worries. They..whip us even worse. Nope I’m calling it now, we will not beat Carolina in Carolina.1-4 here we come hellbent..on getting that no 1 draft pick in 2017 baby!
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:21 pm
As ugly as that game was, we must all realize that Jameis can not do it all by himself.
When healthy, Tampa is barely a lower middle of the road or worse NFL Team. However, when our starters start going down, we quickly reveal what losers we really are.
It is gonna take many years to right this ship. What really hurts is 2 interceptions today were from Talib, who we let go.
One has to wonder what ASJ will do to us next year, when we play the Jets ?
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:25 pm
celly – Yep, Martin is certainly proving his worth right now. Simms is a roleplayer, not an everydown back. However the schedule for the Bucs has been brutal, if Sims had been playing versus say New Orleans he’d probably look OK. But Martin is proving his worth. To those who said the Bucs shouldn’t spend that much on a RB I ask what should the Bucs have spent the money on? They got the most cap space of any team next offseason and they’re not near the cap even with VJ making $11million.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:25 pm
ASJ will go to the playoffs and probably win the SB like all of our ex players we let go
It’s like we have “the curse of chucky” ever since we fired Gruden!
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:27 pm
These MFs are squatting on our slow asz receivers. We have needed speed on offense for how long now? Man It is a personnel problem. This team lacks talent across the board. Grimes suck Verner sucks VJack sucks old azz Simms sucks McCoy is hurt again Safeties suck Goat status. These MFs were quick to throw Lovie under the bus, but half of them shouldn’t be in the league.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:28 pm
Oh
God…..another idiot comparing the NFL to a stupid video game….this isn’t madden dumb dumb
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:29 pm
It’s an analogy, 💩for brains.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:30 pm
You’re right McCoy is “soft as tissue”
…..and is definitely not need for sacks
Proven after he left the game…..the defense still got some pass rush
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:32 pm
Bucs have the worst receivers in the league. Can’t get open to save their lives
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:33 pm
ASJ will do nothing because he will not be playing. Forget about what other teams may benefit from our former players. Blount and Talib ended up going to gift-wrapped situations. There was never a problem with either one’s play. They would both be doing nothing on this team though. The fact of the matter is football is won in the trenches. If you don’t believe me, watch JW under siege every time he stepped back while we rarely got pressure on the Broncos Qb’s. Our D Line is not doing anything. Our O Line has pass protected sufficiently and done nothing in the run game. It starts in the trenches and you build outward. So, you ask who we should be drafting. DE, DE, WR, tackle, and safety. This is assumig Ryan Smith can develop as a safety otherwise we need to find 2 safeties. Our secondary sans safety has actually been better than you would think. Even the best cover corners have no chance if the QB has all day to pick the defense apart. We have a long way to go. Our only chance at a surprisingly positive result is owning our divisional games.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:34 pm
Bust
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:34 pm
No receivers depth. ……….jogging VJAX
….no secondary. …..do we even have safetys??????
…….no good depth at RB
……..below average TEs
……now everyone is hurt
The BUCS are screwed
LET’S ALL GET DRUNK TOGETHER!!!!!!! 🙂
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:35 pm
I’ve said it from day 1. Winston is Josh Freeman. He is so clumsy looking. His footwork is atrocious. He will never be a 60% passer. But hey my guy Mariota. Might be a bust too.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:42 pm
All this talk about receivers who can’t get open befuddles me… we’ve been told from the beginning that JW3 can “thread the needle” and “throw his receivers open”.
What happened to that?
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:42 pm
Jason Licht is a good gm and I’m glad he’s here, but part the blame in this loss falls on him. It was no secret that our WR core was a weakness of our team and he made very minimal effort to get one in here.
I see the success of guys like Marvin Jones, Sanu, and Travis Benjamin and what does Licht do? Sign Johnathan Krause. I don’t care if Aaron Rodgers is at quarterback, we are no match for the Broncos defense if we’re rolling out there with a washed up Vincent Jackson, an undersized Humpries and a complete mystery at our #4 slot. Btw Aaron Rodgers threw for 77 pass yards against the same Broncos defense last year, QBs need wide outs. Licht needs to make some phone calls. What’s Marques Colstons number? He can’t be anymore washed up than Vincent Jackson.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:46 pm
Psst
“Jack Conklin is currently the 2nd-highest graded RT in the NFL … surrendered a grand total of 5 QB pressures”
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:49 pm
@Tbbucs3…
You can’t blame a receiver not signing with us in Free Agency on Licht. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. You CAN’T force a player to sign with you in free agency. They have to WANT to be here.
If you want to blame him for not drafting a speed receiver, then fine. But you can’t make a player want to play for us.
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:52 pm
Wrs are open but jameis only looks for Evans just like Denver said
October 2nd, 2016 at 10:59 pm
Perhaps if we didn’t sign a kicker in the 2nd round we could get a speedy WR or another Def player!!!
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:01 pm
Licht has his head up his ass not addressing our depth problems- Conte is beyond terrible. Koetter gave up on that 4th down. Fire them both.
Simple as that
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:02 pm
he can’t manage a clock either after an hour break to think about it. Coach is just dumb as nails. How do these guys make it this far and make that much money?
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:06 pm
BucsFan90
“Bucs have the worst receivers in the league. Can’t get open to save their lives”
Ummm, I wouldn’t go that far. Evans and Hump are damn good and we’ve gone up against two of the best defenses in the league so far .If they go WR in round 1 this year and we could get Mike Williams, that would be frikin awesome
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:11 pm
@Celly
I mean, we had a top 10 offense last year and a one of kind 22 year old franchise quarterback in Jamies. Licht could of easily made a case to lure one of those guys in here. If he put in maximum effort to get one of those guys and failed I’d be fine with that, but throughout the offseason I heard of no attempts by the Bucs to get anyone of those. All I heard was crap about unproductive Roddy White.
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:13 pm
I agree celly. Several FA’s that have signed elsewhere and continue to be successful have been on our wish list but simply didn’t want to sign here. How can you blame them? Who wants to play on a “rebuilding” team when you can play for a contender for maybe a fraction less. The whole sunny in FL and no State Tax is a hard sell when the team stinks.
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:20 pm
Celly
Martin will do nothing the rest of season he will never be productive for bucs again. Martin like gmc is soft and fragile
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:23 pm
you would think will all the money these guys make,they would try and learn some english at least.anyway its just another article that shows the incompetence of our QB
even though rod here thinks jameis can do no wrong even though he just proved to us all that he can do a whole lot of wrong.
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:24 pm
With all due respect to the cornerbacks for Denver; I don’t believe a word of what they said in their interviews. It is absolutely easy to sit back and answer the questions the way they did after the game . They got a chance to make themselves look smart because we already know what happened. I call BS on their responses. The first interception was completely a bad throw by Winston. He could have completed a pass to one of two receivers. Talib got an interception thrown right to him. It had absolutely nothing to do with coaching or anything he did. Talib’s second interception was pretty good. Winston did throw a bad pass on it however. He could’ve thrown in a little bit higher it would have made it more difficult to get an interception.
To hear what Chris Harris had to say you would think Denver had five interceptions today and he had at least three of the five himself. Again… I say BS on what the secondary members of Denver had to say about Winston today. To be sure, Winston did suck today but it was not the way those two guys described it. They did not know at the time everything they claim to know after the game. I do not believe them. It’s too easy to just say stuff after the fact that makes it sound like you knew what you were doing the whole time
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:27 pm
Agreed Celly. Unless you’re throwing some nice dough at a guy that has choices, they probably hear Tampa Bay Buccaneers and think “oh hell no” and “I’m not trying to wear those ugly ass jerseys.”
October 2nd, 2016 at 11:43 pm
I’m tired….
October 3rd, 2016 at 12:03 am
So, every time we play a 3-4 defense we are ONLY going to score 7 points in a game? Jameis can’t move the ball with pressure on him? Can’t figure out to check the ball down? Has trouble hitting a wide open player? Dirk doesn’t think JW has regressed? How many INT’s is he going to throw this year? Cannot wait until next year to see if Glennon is better than Winston. Wouldn’t it be great if he went somewhere else and succeeded? Another bone-headed move made by our beloved Bucs. Will MG8 win a Super Bowl before JW? Can’t wait until Mike is a starting QB again for someone else. At least it will give me another team to root for, that hopefully plays better.
October 3rd, 2016 at 12:07 am
BigStinky
Glennon will never win another NFL game much less a game that matters
October 3rd, 2016 at 12:13 am
stinky on a lot of the replays not one person was open.
October 3rd, 2016 at 1:33 am
When you have a tv who has been injured half hit career why you wouldn’t have a viable backup is hard to believe. That Agymisso pick keeps looking worse with no depth on both sides of the ball.
October 3rd, 2016 at 3:00 am
There will be no excuses for our franchise QB! You people talk about how he has no receivers, but he has a nice set in Evans and Hump. People talk about how our last 3 QBs crumbled under pressure and OMG ran out of bounds before the 1st down marker. I’ll take a guy that protects the ball and checks down when needed, runs out before the 1st down marker “cause he has no heart”, then some QB that turns the ball over at will. Again….. If our last 3 QBs get no excuses, our so called franchise QB gets none! All I ever hear is how he will put the team on his shoulders and win us games, and I’ve yet to see that. No excuses!
October 3rd, 2016 at 3:01 am
And tmax? Tell when JW has won a game that matters?
October 3rd, 2016 at 7:35 am
I’m afraid Winston is a bust whose ceiling is that of an average NFL QB. Bucs should consider drafting another QB. Have to get the QB position right if they are ever going to have a chance.
October 3rd, 2016 at 10:51 am
I would love to be Bucs fan , But this they wasted 1 draft pick on clown who is not fast and has average arm , it will take years to correct Lovies wasted pick .
I do not know if I have stomach to wait for team to understand Winston is bust
October 3rd, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Brent Grimes gets beat alot, and the only time I see Conte make a play, well actually I haven’t seen Conte make a play
October 3rd, 2016 at 1:51 pm
I think people didn’t understand how good those FSU teams were and how they helped raise Winstons draft stock. He’s got a good arm and a good frame but his penchant for bad decision making was covered by the superior talent around him in college (as well as by his bad decision making off the field being covered by the administration).
October 3rd, 2016 at 3:47 pm
FSU fan i hate to say it but jw is making decisions he should not be making. i think he tries to do too much and the WR corps is poor .
October 3rd, 2016 at 8:34 pm
The perceived strength of the team, Winston, has turned into the biggest weakness. This game can be very humbling.
October 4th, 2016 at 2:33 pm
Sounds more like the playcalling is predictable. Yes JW is going to take his shots, but Dirk needs to mix things up more. The offense does seem very predictable this year. Wait, did they just handoff to Chuck Sims again?
October 5th, 2016 at 10:22 am
Damn, good call on that running game need. Jamies hasn’t changed that predictability since Gruden pointed it out 2 years ago. I think Jamies has some more football learning to do and Koetter’s let Jamies be Jamies isn’t going to work. He’s need a better coach.