“Our Chemistry Is Fine”
September 22nd, 2016
No issues with America, says Vincent Jackson.
There are no problems between the Bucs’ 12-year veteran Pro Bowl wide receiver and America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winstonn.
That’s coming from the mouth of Vincent Jackson himself.
Through the first two weeks of the season, Jackson and Jameis, who clicked well last year, sure look off. It apparently is off enough that the subject has been brought up publicly by both wide receivers coach/offensive coordinator Todd Monken (twice) and also head coach Dirk Koetter.
Today in the Bucs locker room, Jackson disputed any chemistry issues between him and Jameis. In fact, Jackson lauded Jameis.
“Our chemistry is fine, our relationship is fine,” Jackson said of he and Jameis. “We just have to hit [on the plays] on Sunday.”
As for he and Jameis looking as if they are not on the same plays, Jackson atributed it to simple fundamentals.
“It is timing routes, basic stuff, fundamental stuff that we just have to not take for granted,” Jackson said about the passing woes. “Every practice, every day. It is very important that the coaches give us the opportunity to work on [these] plays. To make sure that when we do have the opportunity [in games] that we hit on it.”
Jackson admitted there is some frustration with the inability to connect on some plays, but it has nothing to do with Jameis.
“It’s tough,” Jackson said. “As much time as we put in, we’ve been going at this stuff since April. We understand this league. You might miss on a few things here or there. But we are working at it. I think Jameis has all the confidence to get the ball around to everybody. And to get everyone involved.”
When Joe asked Jackson if the offense had changed much from last year and if that was perhaps the reason for lack of connections between him and Jameis, Jackson basically said only minor elements have changed. Essentially, he said, it is the same offense Koetter ran lsat year.
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:15 pm
chemistry is fine ok very nice but how the hell are the knees and what is preventing him from running crisp routes.
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Watched the game again yesterday and JW was a lot more accurate than I originally thought. It seemed like only Vjax was having trouble connecting. JW over threw hump on a long ball and another to ME that was high across the middle but the rest were on point. Now there were about 5-6 throws that were crazy off target bc he was literally getting hit as he threw the ball. Give JW a clean pocket and he’ll throw for 5 TDs a game. Ye of so little faith.
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:32 pm
No one can argue that Jackson has looked good. I, for one, am still not concerned about it. I truly believe Jackson is due for a big game. If he hasn’t done anything by the time we are headed to Charlotte, count me as concerned, but for now I really think he’ll be fine. Time will tell.
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:36 pm
@DB55,
I’m kind of with you. I didn’t think he was as terrible as his stats looked. He did have good protection, but he got hit a lot. The routes our receivers run are down the field and long developing routes, so he’s going to get hit. I can’t think of any other QB in the NFL with as many down the field throws as Jameis, and this is only his second year. The more you throw down the field, the harder the throw, and the more inaccurate throws you’re going to have (especially if you are under pressure). I’m not excusing Jameis, but I don’t necessarily think he was as bad as others feel. Regardless, I’m just hoping he can continue his trend of following a bad game with a good game.
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:40 pm
then where the hell is the production your chemistry is not fine stop lieing to us and treating us like kids!
September 22nd, 2016 at 1:46 pm
Ain’t no way in hell we lose to the Rams Sunday
September 22nd, 2016 at 2:00 pm
If you are not concerned about it, then you have not been paying attention!!! As one of the first to notice something was wrong with VJ83 during the Atlanta game, I don’t see how anyone not be concerned and should very worried!!!
On 620 They had an audio clip of Head Coach Koetter said that something needs to change or he will change it!!! meaning if VJ87 needs to start getting open very soon, or we will only see him in 4 wr sets!!!!!!
While some were screaming about the arrival of ASJ87 The Buc Realist was worried about VJ83!!!!!!
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2016/09/buccaneers-seferian-jenkins-blog-trust-touchdown/#comments
September 22nd, 2016 at 2:01 pm
I like the guy but I still think it’s either the knees or age catching up to him. DB’s aren’t worried about him burning them deep anymore and they’re just sitting on his routes. If you look at Larry Fitzgerald he started having similar problems prior to last year before they moved him into the slot where he’s now allowed to work the middle of the field and catch the underneath passes while the 2 young speedy WR’s are used to stretch the field and keep the DB’s honest.
September 22nd, 2016 at 2:17 pm
Not sure I follow some of these discussions. VJax stretch the field? I don’t think he’s ever been a speed-burner who could do that … his skill with the deep ball is to get position on defenders and out-jump them if need be. Hmmm, not unlike ME13’s skillset. But I tend to think that’s our problem: we have 2 very tall WRs with very similar skillsets on the field at the same time.
Bucs desperately need a speed demon who can also catch the ball to truly stretch the field. Until we get that WR, we’ll probably need to work the short & intermediate passes a lot more (using both VJax & ME13 as well as other WRs, TEs & RBs) until it becomes obvious that the secondary is cheating in.
September 22nd, 2016 at 2:37 pm
@Defense Rules
You’re right VJax was never a speed demon but he had a knack for getting behind DB’s and catching the long ball (probaly a lot like Evans). But starting off and not really being a burner and now factoring in age he’s not a down field threat at all at this stage in his career. Watch over the next couple of games how the DB’s are sitting on his routes. A lot of times guys aren’t even turning their hips to run with him on routes they’re just staying in their back peddle or shuffle and watching the QB so that they can break on the ball.
September 22nd, 2016 at 3:32 pm
America’s QB is the second most hated player in the NFL
September 22nd, 2016 at 3:37 pm
Agree with all the comments above. JW stats looked awful but the tape tells a very different story. Vjax does not scare anyone anymore even though he was the deep threat 4-5 years ago.
I for one see Sheppard playing extremely hard to get more playing to so I say go with the guy who’s making plays. Heck I’d like to see Martino get a chance to play. He’s my sleeper on this team.
Ps
Someone needs to coach up Sheppard. He can’t be swinging his hands back n fourth on the LOS, he’s going to get called for offsides or false start/ illegal movement. How does that get passed a pro coaching staff?
September 22nd, 2016 at 4:16 pm
its simple guys and gals…. JW has been horible so far this year period…. We are lucky to be 1-1… We owe our D for that 1 win as much as JW…
Do the numbers. Outside of two outstaning catches by ME and ASJ. As well as two excellent catch amd runs by Hump and Chuck…. JW has not been good…
The put rpute VJax ran that JW threw a pick on game one was the correct route for the situation… Jax took the heat cause he is an awesome teammate.
Bottom Line… JW needs to be rolled out or put on some bootlegs early in the game… It will get him locked in and VJax wont be giv*ng us all the WTF face the first half…
Simple as that
September 22nd, 2016 at 4:18 pm
everyone wants to jump on the veteran captain, which is fair. However, it’s reasonable to wonder whether Jameis’ quest to build long term chemistry with guys has limited the time he has put into Vincent who is probably in the final year of his Buc career. I have no inside info, but listening to Jameis talk about chemistry it seems at least possible that JW prioritized getting timing down with the likes of Kenny Bell and Dontea Dye at the expense of reps with Vincent.
September 22nd, 2016 at 4:28 pm
Something has been off with VJax. He’s not running crisp routes or attacking the ball. Hope he comes around quick. Bucs don’t really have any other options with Murphy out and Shorts ailing.
September 22nd, 2016 at 4:31 pm
How about the clip showing vjax just walking away after Simms incredible td run? VJax had a bit of a reputation when he was with San Diego because he felt he wasn’t getting paid what he felt. If I remember right , accused of sulking. It’s what looks like is going with the first two games. His head is just not right. To say it’s not so is putting your head in the sand. Maybe it’s because Mike is more targeted as the number one. Perhaps being a second option is not what Vjax has ever had to deal with in his career.
September 22nd, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Decided to do some digging, old scouting report that talked about his tendancy to disappear in games and also a lack of effort on balls that led to ints, this while he was a Charger, maybe old habits have came back for him, especially in his last year of a contract
September 22nd, 2016 at 6:06 pm
It’s Martino time. He looked solid in pre season, and caught, I think, 6 or 7 balls in the last one. A couple of nice diving grabs, as well. They brought him up for a reason. Maybe Jaboo likes him.
September 22nd, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Chris stop just stop
You give great unbias info from a worried fan
You will now be labeled as a troll like myself
You and waterboy are the best informative posters here
Thank you. This is for you
“I wanted to be drafted by the tampa bay bucs and play in front of poster Chris” Sterling Shepard
September 22nd, 2016 at 6:53 pm
Thanks Kobe, my only loyalty on this site is to the Buccaneers. No college agenda coloring my eyes. No loyalty a coach or player, the team is bigger than any individual . Unfortunately , I think we have a collection of individuals on this team. Some team players , but a lot of individuals
September 22nd, 2016 at 7:01 pm
VJ is done as a weapon, they might as well put Sheppard out there instead. He’s at least going to go balls out on his routes.
Koetter said the amount of money a guy makes doesn’t influence his decisions about who to play. He needs to remember those words here. I love the work VJ does outside the team, and what he’s done for the team through some awful seasons. But if you know something’s true, don’t wait around to make the call. Put someone else in there, anyone. He’s that bad now.
September 22nd, 2016 at 7:08 pm
@Chris
I think you’re right. Koetter doesn’t have a feel for the pulse of his team (yet), and seemed genuinely surprised by the effort they put out there. Some of that ‘individualism’ in a team falls back to the head coach not keeping a tight grip on the team’s chemistry and motivation. Players looking after themselves haven’t listened to the coaches or don’t fear any consequences. Not sure of what’s up with it, but hopefully it’s a one game mirage.
September 22nd, 2016 at 11:56 pm
So? Pretty sure Warren Sapp was reviled, too. Should the Bucs have cut him?
So Jameis is hated (no sh!t?), does that mean the Bucs should sign Tebow and start him?
Thought the goal is to win, not be liked. Didn’t know the NFL was a kindergarten… or a sorority house.