Lovie Channels Schiano
September 4th, 2016
Lovie Smith agrees with his Bucs predecessor Greg Schiano about bathroom habits.
Joe likes to keep up on Bucs coaches of the past. And it seems like the last two have more than a passing football interest in common.
Joe remembers when former Bucs commander Greg Schiano had many Bucs fans turn on him when Schiano said he doesn’t believe in halftime adjustments. Schiano suggested halftime was more valuable for players to take a leak and eat and physically prepare themselves for the second half.
Schiano worded his explanation poorly but Joe not only understood what Schiano was trying to say, Joe wholeheartedly agreed with him.
Football, especially in the NFL, is a game of adjustments made by the play, by the series of downs, by a possession. A team that waits until halftime is likely to get buried before the end of the first quarter. Waiting until halftime is dumb.
(Imagine in basketball if a coach never called a timeout in the first half and waited for halftime to change things up, how quickly a game would get out of hand? Or in baseball, if a pitcher threw the same pitch all the time, no matter the result? Same applies to football, especially so.)
It seems Lovie not only has followed Schiano to the Big Ten — Schiano is now the defensive coordinator of powerhouse Ohio State; Lovie the head coach at moribund Illinois — but Lovie has followed Schiano’s same philosophy.
Like Schiano, Lovie believes halftime is more for players p!ssing than it is for adjustments, so he told Bob Asmussen of the Champaign News-Gazette.
What will halftime be like for your team?
We do have a routine. First off, you want guys to have a little bit of private time. Use the restroom. Things that people don’t think about. Then, just to gather their thoughts a little bit. For us, it’s about adjustments. You go into a game, you don’t know for sure what a team is going to do. You know what they’ve done before, but things change. For us, we’re going to go in (thinking), ‘This is what they’re doing to us.’ A lot of people say, ‘You’ve got to get to halftime to make adjustments.’ We adjust after plays. We adjust after series. At the half, you have a pretty good idea on what their philosophy is, how they are going to attack you. You make sure everybody is on the same page with that.
So there you have it. Lovie and Schiano are really like-minded. Well, sort of.
So when you are at the Den of Depression this fall, and you have to take a halftime whiz after guzzling four or five lukewarm $10 beers, remember, you are preparing for the second half just like the players are.
September 4th, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Lovie and Schiano also had another thing in common they both were control freaks one just hide behind a warm and fuzzy persona… damn hypocrite and the other was a gruff big meanie…. in a country where being PC is more important than having integrity guys like schiano will be shunned… I’d be willing to bet neither shciano nor lovie coach in the nfl again.
September 4th, 2016 at 5:19 pm
tmaxcon:
Schiano was much more genuine and more of a control freak. Lovie wasn’t as much (not even close) of a control freak but he put on more of a front that he was. Lovie was much more condescending.
September 4th, 2016 at 5:24 pm
I don’t have any problem with what he said..,,
September 4th, 2016 at 5:28 pm
Man talk about the lost decade post-Gruden…makes me shudder.
September 4th, 2016 at 6:23 pm
Lovie won his 1st college game. Good for him. Cut it out and knock it off Joe.
Lovie’s not channeling anybody but Lovie. He’s just trying to win at Ill. And so far, his players are responding to him. The man got a job immediately after being fired by the Bucs. Hell, most people go without work for a yr or 2 after a firing. Some..even more. Lets move on Joe for Christ sake. Koetter is our coach. And we all want him and our Bucs to succeed. Most…of us are over Lovie. How come you ain’t!!
September 4th, 2016 at 6:31 pm
O.K. Joe How many wins is going to take to rename our stadium from “The Den of Depression?” 8….9…10
I know after we skipped on Johnny Football you decided to express your feelings in this way. But now we got Jameis. You need to change the name this season. So, what is your plan?
September 4th, 2016 at 6:36 pm
Joe likes to keep up on Bucs coaches of the past.
No, Joe LOVES to keep up on Bucs coaches of the past.
September 4th, 2016 at 6:41 pm
tdtb
The Joes call it that due to the very poor home record. Want them to change that? How bout our Bucs win more at home than lose
September 4th, 2016 at 7:07 pm
Ha mike Johnson again
How about lovie not being able to get a job after the bears?
Oh ya. And congrats on beating Murray state.
But he’s black so let’s only criticize joe for talking about him. Let’s not give joe crap for talking about lovie. you’re so racist it’s annoying
Get over it dude. Doesn’t matter if he’s black or white. They both were coaches of absolutely garbage teams and there are very very few positives to talk about from either of them. Joes not picking on lovie any more than our other crap coaches that we’ve had. You can’t argue that what lovie did here(minus Jameis) was absolutely trash. The guy makes it a point to force ppl to believe that he is an understanding man and a good coach. Meanwhile, all he really is is a condescending asshole that is a horrible in game coach as well as a horrible player evaluator/developer
From now on, anytime joe writes an article that has lovies name in it, I will be there to troll you any and every time you b**ch and moan about it. Just call me the shadow man.
September 4th, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Let’s not give joe crap for talking about schiano* only lovie
September 4th, 2016 at 7:23 pm
Hey Shadow Man, funny! Good stuff! MJ is definitely a little(a lot) hard to take. But hey, GO BUCS!!
September 4th, 2016 at 8:19 pm
At least five home games… in the same season.
September 4th, 2016 at 8:19 pm
I will give Lovie credit for taking a job and saving the Glazers $2 mil…..he could have just sat it out and collected a paycheck.
The guy loves coaching….I guess, and it’s a way to hire his friends and family.
September 4th, 2016 at 9:20 pm
Tampabaybucfan
are you sure he is not collecting from glazers. I was under the impression they were obligated to pay him unless he took a NFL coaching job not ANY coaching job. again, I just don’t know how that works and you bring up a curious topic.
joe do you know if lovie’s corn crusade saves the glazers coin.
September 4th, 2016 at 9:20 pm
So Lovie channels Schiano because they agree on something that is probably true for all coaches in the NFL and major colleges. Every coaching staff is constantly in-game adjusting, and every team needs to take a piss at halftime. Duh. Joe reached the bottom of his trivia grab bag on this one.
September 4th, 2016 at 9:24 pm
Do some research. Bucs fans freaked out when Schiano said the same thing. Joe wrote he agrees (with both of them).
Fans began to turn on Schiano for saying that.
September 4th, 2016 at 10:01 pm
What’s Sam Wyche up to these days?
September 4th, 2016 at 10:08 pm
Joe Says:
September 4th, 2016 at 9:24 pm
I think they had probably already turned on him, or were ready to turn on him. When your team tends to collapse in the second half, as Schiano teams did, fans start saying things like “they didn’t adjust,” and then the coach puts out a statement like that, it’s like raw meat in a lion’s den. Fans draw bogus conclusions all the time because it fits their narrative. As in this case. Who knows why Schiano’s teams collapsed in the second half? Maybe Schiano tore them all a new a-hole at halftime and de-motivated them.
September 4th, 2016 at 10:09 pm
Hey Joe, can we please unblock my other IP? I didn’t do anything except disagree the other day.
September 4th, 2016 at 11:45 pm
The Big Ten will figure out Lovie’s amateur schemes and game plans soon enough, and when they do the Illini fans will begin to hate Lovie’s befuddled headphone-clad doofus face on the big screen just as much as Bears and Bucs fan did.
September 5th, 2016 at 1:21 am
Well in my book, as a fan of 40 years, we have potentially the next HC to lead this team to a SB. We have the talent in so many areas. He hired Mike Smith so he is accountable there either way. He is a REFreshing change from “Simple as that” and other BS from LS
I see the writing on the wall. Do you?
September 5th, 2016 at 1:23 am
I never turned on Schiano. Dude got 7 wins in his first season when it took Lovie Two seasons to notch 8 wins when 6 were in his second season
September 5th, 2016 at 1:53 am
Bucs under Lovie in year one were told to tank for Winston, then in year two they improve by 4 games and have the #5 offense in the league with a rookie QB and the #10 defense without NFL level starters at corner or safety.
It’s just flat out amazing how much you people bashed Lovie – it really makes me question how many of you understand football at all.
September 5th, 2016 at 7:53 am
@rod Munch
top 5 offenses score points .tough to do when your head coach has a penchant for field goals and his conservative decisions helped team lose games.And the only time it was evident that we were tanking was the last game,second half.
Lovie did not have a winning formula so it would easily confused with tanking.
as for defense you should know total points given up is a lagitimate way of
determining the ranking a defense.we were probably top 5 in blowouts so
I don’t see any validity to your statements.
And if Mikie Jenkins and Tim Jennings were not NFL level starters,why did Lovie keep starting them.
September 5th, 2016 at 8:47 am
Lovie POed me when he brought in McClownface, and wouldn’t let MG8 start. He threw Banks in the garbage. He got a real hair up his rear cos he didn’t draft these guys. Good riddance!
How do players handle going to the can, especially 1st teamers? They wear diapers under their jocks? Some of these guys are out on the field for a whole quarter. That’s stretching it a bit even if you are young and in great shape!
Go Tampa Bay!!
September 5th, 2016 at 8:58 am
I dont think it was lovie’s scheme so much as it was Lovie himself. He did not have the talent evaluation to be head coach AND pseudo GM. Case on point, it took him nine weeks to put Sterling Moore in, who was our best corner a year ago. Plus there is no way that Jenn and Jenk should have been starting over Banks and Verner. That secondary was a mess, not becquse of scheme but because of poor coaching/talent evaluation, and it affected the whole defense and the entire team.
September 5th, 2016 at 9:24 am
Lovie…….remember the Washington Redskins game?
September 5th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
head ball coach turd…Wow, who..said anything about black or white? Ohh my bad, you did! You gotta be a Trump man. I’ve never mentioned race/color in any of my postings. But I can see,,you have. Keep up the good work..Trumpster!