Back Off!
September 19th, 2016
Not even a blitz by Chris Conte could slow down Carson Palmer. (Photo courtesy of Buccaneers.com.)
The Bucs got beat like the proverbial rented mule yesterday.
And no one stunk worse than America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston. He had a Tennessee Not-Ready type of game. Throw in a defense which couldn’t stop a cool breeze after the first quarter, and with injury after injury piling up like the Bucs got in the way of a cattle stampede, it was a terrible come-to-earth moment.
Don Banks is fed up. The NFL.com columnist, and a former St. Petersburg Times Bucs beat writer, typed the Bucs are who most thought they were: a lousy team.
And while we’re at it, let’s back off a bit on that talk about the Bucs being ready for playoff contention, and Jameis Winston being an early-season MVP candidate. Arizona dismantled the previously high-flying Bucs 40-7 in Glendale on Sunday, and in Tampa Bay’s case it was probably a matter of buying into their own Week 1 hype. Young team, lesson learned, hopefully.
Yesterday was a cold slap-in-the-face jolt of reality. Even Joe had started to buy in on the Bucs. Then — whammo! — Arizona blew the doors off the Bucs bandwagon. Wheels, too.
Until or unless the Bucs beat a team with a winning record, they are not a wild card contender, only a pretender. Remember: the last time the Bucs had a winning season, they didn’t beat a team with a winning record until the final game of the season.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:08 am
Back off the Winston as a franchise type QB while you are at. Dudes a up n down inconsistent player who has a lot to learn. Hoping this Sunday is at least competitive
September 19th, 2016 at 9:08 am
America’s Turnover Machine showed up Sunday. I hope he learns from this and takes it out on the Rams.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:09 am
Lousy clock management too Coach K. 3 plays in 17 seconds when you couldve almost ended the half. Yeah, lesson learned hopefully. I know, we have to take shots but Jameis just wasnt feeling it. And yes, back to reality Joes. I was buying into it too. Ive long said Im thinking 6-8 wins. Young team, new coaching and schemes. But we’ll get there.
I have faith in my guys….we’ll get there.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:10 am
Their is a huge difference between being slapped around by a potential superbowl contender and being slapped around by a team on their way to the #1 overall pick in the NFL Draft!!!!
Now is a true test!!! How will the Bucs respond!!! What will be the mentality for next week!!! This is a true test, and most likely the true indication of what this New regime will be!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!
NFL Bucs 2017 draft, WR, TE, Safety!!!
September 19th, 2016 at 9:10 am
It’s ONE game! What a freaking double standard!!!!!
We win a game on the road against a division rival and everybody jumps up and down screaming…chill out it’s only one game.
We lose a game against the team that reached the NFC championship…won 13 and all of the sudden that’s the entire season.
What negativity. Win one and it’s just ONE game….lose one on the road against a top team and it’s the entire season. This is starting to get stupid.
Don Banks is an illogical idiot. Up here in Michigan I have to rely on NFL ticket and Direct which means I surf every game. I’m always surprised when teams like Cleveland or LA look great against “better” teams…then I recall..It’s the NFL on any given Sunday.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:13 am
@Realist
Excellent take. LA will be a far greater barometer of where this team is headed than yesterday.
It’s clear we’re not great but we can still be good to very good. But good teams win the games they’re supposed to win..like Atlanta and LA.
AGAIN…3 of the first five games are against the SB teams with a 3rd against a team that lost in the NFC championship. 3 are on the road. This schedule has a brutal start but that also means that last 11 with the exception of Carolina at home and KC on the road is loaded with winnable games.
Do the Bears, Cowboys and such really scare the pants off of us?
September 19th, 2016 at 9:27 am
I’ve wallowed in this game for about 12 hours now and really wanted to marinate in it and take in all of the commentary and analysis before jumping on the vitriol bandwagon. At the end of the day, we knew that there was a very real chance that we were going to drop this game. We knew they were a really good team that played below their talent level last week. I’m not going to say that it wasn’t painful to watch. It was tough from start to finish. It looked like our guys never got off the bus.
I think this game is a wake up call for Licht and Koetter in terms of where our team needs are, what the mentality is of some of our key contributors and where our focus should be going forward.
One positive that I can already see, the penalty issues we had are all but non-existent this year. It seemed like every big play the past 2 years was called back on us because a penalty was committed. Now, we rarely get any penalties. Granted, we didn’t get many big plays either yesterday, but the fact remains that Mike Smith’s penalty emphasis is taking hold.
Yesterday was brutal. It was a gut check and it’ll be humbling to a lot of our players who were very impressed with themselves after last week’s win. If they can use it as a galvanizing experience that rededicates them and helps them focus in and play better going forward it’ll be a great net win for the team. If they’re still as mentally weak as we’ve known them to be for the better part of a decade, then we just watched the end of our season.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:29 am
@St Pete
Yes, those teams scare me. With the Bucs nothing is a gimme. Bad defense is their MO making bad QB’s look good is what this group does until proven otherwise.
Heck even ATL’s d kept a better QB than winston under control for the most part. Doesn’t matte what the system is these defenders suck
September 19th, 2016 at 9:32 am
I’ve been very optimistic year in and out, but now I kno we’re nothing good. They have to prove us fans wrong.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:33 am
Its way too early to tell how good the Bucs can or will be this year. One game and a lot of fans have there panty hose in a not. Chill.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:34 am
The only problem I see is a team that needs to learn how to block out media hype. Anyone that didn’t think a beatdown like this wasn’t possible also need to temper their expectations. Arizona is a favorite to reach the sb for a reason. No reason for FUD yet.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:41 am
I hate the loser mentality of “oh it was Arizona” to not even be competitive is the most disgusting thing about the game. If the Bucs were truly on the right path they’d have been competitive and not played like Lovie came back.
It’s a week to week league and this week I want my season ticket money back
September 19th, 2016 at 9:42 am
I think it shouldn’t surprise any of us that this team would be susceptible to buying in to its own hype. We’re not accustomed to expectations and success. The majority of our team hasn’t actually seen it done the right way. They haven’t seen what goes in to preparing properly, going in to a game with high stakes and high expectations and delivering. We’re still small time. We’ve got pieces in place that need to take these lumps and the team will grow with them and we’ll get there eventually, but we all need to reconcile ourselves to the fact that we’re not a contender yet. Let’s reassess our expectations and pull for them as they build and grow.
I know there are a lot of you that will pound your fist on the table and say that you won’t settle for mediocrity or that you’re tired of losing. I’m tired of it too, trust me. This is where the team is though. We’re changing the mentality and the culture. We’re a year away, at best.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:44 am
Yeah it’s a week to week league but if you don’t think Arizona had way more to play for than the bucs you are kidding yourself. It was a must win game for them and they sure played and coached like it.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:45 am
P ray they look at sum safeties during the week, Conte pass coverage is AWFUL. I would rather have rookie Ryan Smith back there, bet u he can cover better then Conte. That’s for dam sure. #time to take out the trash.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:45 am
Media hype? Like calling him America’s QB? I still don’t get who/why that label has been applied? Last season his play cost his HC (rightfully – See Illinois game) lose his job. Anyone who watched what L.A. did to the Sea Chickens will know that the next 3 weeks will test this team.
Coaching has improved, but Famous Porky’s penchant for throwing and dropping the ball has carried over from FSU. What I don’t get is when you are getting blown out, why not take Famous Porky out of the game? If he is the “franchise” QB, Glennon should have been playing in the 3rd quarter. 1. They might have put up more points, and 2. you don’t lose Famous Porky to injury.
I think the coaching is still better than the previous two (2) years. Give the coaching staff some time. As I have said before, if you get high picks every year because your team does not win, at some point you need to win games!
Greg Schiano
September 19th, 2016 at 9:47 am
New England can go into Arizona and beat them with a backup QB, yet we can’t get it done with our ” Pro Bowl” QB. Something is wrong with that picture, if we lose a hard fought battle, then it’s a good lost. But we got the brakes beat off us, we were beaten like we stole something. No more excuses, only ” LOSERS ” make excuses. We need solutions to the problems, the excuses are getting old. The whole world is ” laughing ” at this franchise, and I can’t blame them. We are a ” joke ” of a franchise, losing is our destiny, and humiliation and self-destruction are our destination. Read it and weep, this is REALITY, welcome to the REAL WORLD.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:49 am
I was wondering how long it’d take wannabee fans to jump ship, now I know: 1 loss. Jameis had a bad game, but on looking at the detailed play breakdowns, it wasn’t bad across the board. Example: he threw 12 deep passes and 38 short passes. He was 1-for-12 (8%) on the deep passes (and that’s where his interceptions happened too), but he was 26-for-38 (68%) on his short passes. Sounds to me like the deep passes were ill-conceived against a top secondary like Arizona has.
Folks have bad-mouthed the WRs (especially VJax) today, but on looking a little closer they didn’t really do all that bad as a group. VJax caught 4-for-5 short but was 0-for-4 deep. ME13 was 5-for-11 short, but only 1-for-6 deep. Humphries was 6-for-7 short (my man), but 0-for-1 deep. And Shep went 2-for-2 short. Bottom line: in the short game the WRs were quite good; in the long game … gross.
And the Bucs defense wasn’t all that bad for almost all of the 1st half. Scoreless 1st qtr for starters (Bucs D even held after that 1st INT). But that 2nd INT and Jameis’ fumble kinda opened the floodgates unfortunately, and the Cardinals eventually scored 17 pts off of turnovers. Don’t know what the odds are over winning when you give up 5 turnovers, but have to think that they’re not very good.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:50 am
Media hype as in all the major networks wanting to interview jameis and asking is jameis elite already. Joe calling him America’s qb ehh most people on this site know Joe does that more to ruffle the feathers of the haters.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:51 am
Oh my god the sky is falling. Jameis had a bad game, so did the rest of the team, stop whining and get over it. Fact is most of us was expecting to lose this game and now that we did everybody is bitching about it. Its only one game . Quit acting like Arizona is Cleveland or the Redskins. We got a heavyweight team at their best. Yes it was ugly, but a loss is a loss whether 40 points or 1. Fact is we are 1 and 1 and srill lead our division, with a very winnable game coming up at home. You guys are already in panic mode two games into the season. Stop acting like bitches and man up. Jeez!!!!
September 19th, 2016 at 9:52 am
How about everyone stop proclaiming Famous Porky as the next coming of Tom Brady (Jamarcus Russell?) and state when the Bucs win 10 or more games for the next decade, then you can call Famous Porky America’s QB.
Until then, we must wait each Sunday to see who shows up under center…Dr. Jeckyl Porky (1st game) or Mr Hyde Porky (2nd game)?? I think we have been sentenced in Tampa to 25 to life with this “franchise QB” while our fan base is assaulted like a FSU co-ed by scooter boy!
Greg Schiano
September 19th, 2016 at 9:53 am
I feel like we’re about two posts away from “Greg Schiano” launching in to a tirade trying to get Joe to ban him from the site.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:55 am
The sky is not falling!
However, when our 1’s were still playing in the 4th quarter against some of Arizona’s back-ups, we were still unable to move the football. While slightly more negative of a take, Tampa Tony does have a point. We did not look competitive.
It’s just one game and hopefully we learn from it and move forward.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:56 am
@Tampa Tony,
So you mean Winston is like every other young QB in the history of the NFL? Every young QB is inconsistent. More accurately, every QB has bad games. We’ve had bad defenses that have intercepted Drew Brees 3 times. He’s going to have bad games throughout his career. He’s a gunslinger in every sense of the word. That’s what gunslingers do. Did you ever watch Brett Favre play? I know your panies are in a wad and you think the sky is falling, but calm down a bit. Everything is going to be fine. We aren’t winning the Super Bowl this year. We’ll be extremely lucky to win 9 games. This is a process.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:58 am
“Greg Schiano Says:
September 19th, 2016 at 9:45 am
Coaching has improved, but Famous Porky’s”
So, you were completely hiding out last week, but when Jameis has a bad game, you come out from hiding to crow?
Typical.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:59 am
@Tony
With the Bucs nothing is a gimme.
Are you serious Tony? DUH. It’s the NFL…insert any team where you’ve placed Bucs. There are no gimme’s for ANY team! Certainly some games SEEM more winnable than others that’s why Vegas has a line.
@DR
As always excellent analysis. I think Bonzai has the most reasonable view of those of us who remain optimistic.
The worst schedule in the entire league for the first five games! The Two SB teams and a team that barely missed out with 3 of 5 on the road.
Then a bye and a manageable schedule for a young team that just played the toughest stretch of any team in the league. If we’re 2-3 we’re very much in the playoff hunt. The team will have a chance to heal from the brutal schedule and a very young team with a new D will have some experience.
September 19th, 2016 at 9:59 am
OMG – everyone who expected the Buc’s to lose this game please raise your hands? That is the same attitude that got Lovie banished to Illinois after intentionally putting in the backups against the Saint’s 2 years ago.
Not me! The number of high draft picks and the number of very good & experienced coaches on this team demands more than excuses.
Excuses are like Jose’s pet names for Famous Porky and hatin on Glennon!
Next man up….no excuses….”Any given Sunday?”…..The Rams looked pathetic in week #1 and kicked the Sea Chickens to the curb last night! They did it with Keenum under center? Ok…lets stop with the excuses. As for calling people haters when they pay for season tickets is wrong. Constructive criticism is permitted.
Greg Schiano
September 19th, 2016 at 10:00 am
Greg Schiano,
First of all, you don’t need to write you anonymous name at the bottom of every post. Second, we all know exactly what you are doing. Where were you last week? Funny how you were mighty quiet. If you dislike Jameis so much, don’t watch the games. Don’t comment. Nothing is going to change. He’s going to be our QB. He’s going to be here for a really long time. Nobody would notice or care if you never went to a game or posted a comment, nor does anyone care how you feel about Jameis.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:01 am
Love and Warwick Dunn:
It’s better that way, it’s makes their agenda crystal clear.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:02 am
I think it’s pretty evident that Tampa Tony and Greg Schiano are the Buc fan equivalent of middle school mean girls. Maybe they are actually middle school mean girls.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:02 am
Not hiding! The Buc’s did what they were expected to do in Game #1…..win! I should have come out and join in on the Porky love fest? He did what he is paid to do…nothing more.
Now when he has five (5) turnovers in one game that is a blowout, constructive criticism is expected. My most critical statement was that I do not believe he should have played into the 4th quarter in a blow out?
That was a good time to give Glennon reps (backup) and maybe work in the rookie CB?
Greg Schiano
September 19th, 2016 at 10:03 am
Constructive criticism is good but what exactly are you being constructive about? Rash and too emotional is more like it.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:05 am
“The Rams looked pathetic in week #1 and kicked the Sea Chickens to the curb last night! They did it with Keenum under center? Ok…lets stop with the excuses. As for calling people haters when they pay for season tickets is wrong. Constructive criticism is permitted.”
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The Rams beat the Seahawks 9-3. Keenum didn’t do squat – that was all on their defense. Jameis doesn’t have the luxury to check down and let his defense win the game. You are comparing apples to oranges (not to mention Russell Wilson was playing on a very bad ankle).
I fail to see how calling someone names is “constructive criticism”. It’s more like “dumb arse childish jealousy”. Did he not sign your Bucs underwear or something? Did he turn you down on Tindr? Don’t get mad, that’s just my “constructive criticism” of you.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:05 am
Sorry Hawaii
I have 4 season tickets so my panties are rightfully in a bunch, even though I prefer to free ball it. Time to sell my Seahawks, Bears, Saints, Broncos tickets. To make some money.
When you invest as much as the true fanatics do you have to seriously consider the Mis steps of this team. In the NFL where the games are so close and competitive but the Bucs routinely get blown out you have to think what the hell are they doing? Why are they always so bad and outclassed?
Yeah Freeman 2.0 is young and learning but at a certain point he has to stop with the turnovers and give his team a chance
September 19th, 2016 at 10:05 am
@Hawaiian
When Jameis does well, Greg goes into hiding, silent as a church mouse. He’s been butthurt ever since Tampa drafted Jameis.
Although, it is kinda funny to think that for at least the next decade, the only time that Greg Schiano will post is after a loss or bad showing.
Completely predictable.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:06 am
I dislike this Greg Schiano almost as much as the real one.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Ok thats fair I guess all I would day about that is perhaps Coach didn’t want to to quit. Playing Glennon serves no point since all he does lately when play is kill his trade value. I’m hoping Licht is on the phone to Bill Belicheck trying to get a 5th rounder for our qb of the future.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Nice breakdown defense rules…. I thought the defense played very hard. Verner may have had his best game as a Buc. Palmer was clearly going after him early and failed… Jameis’ play and Doug martin’s injury lost this game. The score was a reflection of Arizona’s mood. Jameis was so bad that Koetter threw five bubble screens on one drive, but one too many as the pick six proved. Everyone said the Bucs would have to play their best game to beat an angry Arizona team on the road. Sadly they did not. But I’m over it. I really want to see these guys play very well next Sunday.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:07 am
@Patrick come talk to me in section 306 row d seats 12 & 13
September 19th, 2016 at 10:08 am
“Tampa Tony Says:
September 19th, 2016 at 10:05 am
Yeah Freeman 2.0 is young and learning but at a certain point he has to stop with the turnovers and give his team a chance”
That’s what you saw? All other facets of the team performed well enough to win, but, it was Jameis that lost the game? That’s what you watched yesterday?
Defense played well? Running game was great? Oline was mauling? You saw all those things?
September 19th, 2016 at 10:13 am
@Tampa Tony,
You’re going to regret selling those tickets (I have 4 as well). Most games in the NFL are close, but not all. The Patriots got blown out a couple years ago, then went on to win the championship. Teams get blown out, players have bad games. It happens. Call it an excuse, but yesterday was the perfect storm. Playing what I think is the best team in the league in their house following a tough loss, critical players going out early and often (Doug, Stocker, Ayers), offense becoming completely one dimensional, and apparently coming off a bad week of practice. Plus, I don’t really like the idea of going a day early to the west coast. Perhaps its the 500 trips I’ve made to Hawaii, but going to Arizona really isn’t that far.
Every QB has bad games. As I said, Jameis is a gunslinger. Gunslingers have bad games. This is his second year! He’s barely 22 years old. If you have been to practices, you can see his improvement is drastic. He played poorly. It’s not going to be his last poor game. However, he’s going to have a lot more fantastic games.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:15 am
“@Patrick come talk to me in section 306 row d seats 12 & 13”
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Damn, I’m not messing with him. He takes up 2 seats!
September 19th, 2016 at 10:19 am
Damn, I’m not messing with him. He takes up 2 seats!
hilarious
September 19th, 2016 at 10:39 am
LOL!
September 19th, 2016 at 10:46 am
Well guys, we all know not to feed the trolls and Tampa Fony is obviously our newest troll. Don’t give him the satisfaction of acknowledging his less than educated opinions.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:50 am
We need to win the games we should win and we’ve done that so far….we should win the next game….we’ll see.
September 19th, 2016 at 10:56 am
Honestly, I understand where Tampa Tony is coming from. I don’t think he’s a troll. Let’s all be honest, this constant losing will beat you down. This organization has given us very little promise over the last 10 years or so.
My optimism comes from a couple things. Number one, we have a franchise QB. I understand some people want him to be Tom Brady in year 2, but that’ just not realistic. He’s going to struggle at times. Like our entire team, he has a lot of growing to do. I have little to no doubt he will get there.
Second, I believe we have a real NFL coach and a real NFL GM. Licht has had some really good drafts, and it would be hard to argue against that. His free agent signings appear to be better now that coach MyScheme is gone. Koetter and his staff are better than anything we’ve had since Gruden. While that’s not saying much, we look like a more disciplined team, which will help us down the road.
There are far more people that feel like Tampa Tony than who feel like me. I get it. I’m going to trust the process, because I really believe we are headed in the right direction. I’ve been wrong before, but this time feels different. But make no mistake, it’s not going to happen this year. This year is going to be a roller coaster of emotions .
September 19th, 2016 at 11:01 am
@ Hawaiian
I understand being frustrated with the team, hel1 I was SOO pissed yesterday, but Tampa Fony takes it to a different and troll like level when u say JW3 isn’t a franchise qb. Lol I bet more than half the teams in the league would love such a young limitless qb like Jameis
September 19th, 2016 at 11:01 am
Yeah the Bucs stunk up the place good. I think they will struggle against the Rams also.
September 19th, 2016 at 11:02 am
BTW Much has been made of the Patriot’s “win” over the Cards.
That win came on a bad snap to the FG kicker who makes that kick a majority of times.
IE…The Cards played well enough to beat the Pats if they had made the kick. It was a horrible way to “lose” a game and they took their frustration out on us.
September 19th, 2016 at 11:11 am
@Hickerbilly,
I can’t defend him on the Jameis not being a franchise QB thing. I think it’s just a matter of having unrealistic expectations for a 22 year old. He threw for 4000 yards as a rookie, and I firmly believe (barring injury) he is going to have a great season. But expecting him to be Brady or Brees is ridiculous. Thank goodness fans don’t run the team, lol.
September 19th, 2016 at 11:27 am
“Hawaiian Buc Says:
September 19th, 2016 at 11:11 am
But expecting him to be Brady or Brees is ridiculous. Thank goodness fans don’t run the team, lol.”
Exactly. Look at Brees’ numbers and play his first 3 years in San Diego. His first two years starting, his ratings were 76.9 and 67.5 He showed promise, but, he wasn’t carrying the Chargers, whatsoever.
I guess we should expect this, there will always be Jameis haters who want to think they were right about the 2015 draft, looking at you Greg Schiano, Supersam, and others, and you have the chicken littles who overreact every time.
Were there people who overreacted in the other direction after last week? Of course. This team is not great, but, it’s also not bottom of the basement. It’s a work in progress, with a franchise QB in place.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:06 pm
Jury is still out after 18 games if he’s a franchise guy or not. Hope he turns out to be ive seen play showing he is and he isn’t. Only time will tell.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:11 pm
Jameis has atruggled with his accuracy from day one. When your receivers are blanketed all day like that, if every single throw isn’t on a dime, that’s what you’re going to get. Jameis can get away with some of tbat against the Falcons, but against the Cards, Broncos, Seahawks, Chiefs, inaccuracy and weak mechanics are going to hurt as all those teams have strong secondaries and our receivers will have a real hard time adjusting to pff target throws. That’s why it was umportant for our defense to step up, so Jameis isn’t forced into a shootout and we can at least attempt to run the ball.
Now, that is not an excuse for Jameis at all, Im simply saying that the entire team was out of sync yesterday and sans the o line, the different position groups did not help each other out. And that we have seen this from Jameis before. It’s not shocking. We are not good enough to step up when he has one of those days.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:30 pm
“Tampa Tony Says:
September 19th, 2016 at 12:06 pm
Jury is still out after 18 games if he’s a franchise guy or not.”
I have no doubt people questioned if Brett Favre was a franchise guy after his first 18 games.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:43 pm
I called it weeks ago, this defence will have to come together fast, changing schemes is a difficult thing to do, we looked bad, as bad as a slap to the face from BigHog to Tmaxcon and the Realist with one hand tied behind my back! Ha ha ha!
September 19th, 2016 at 1:07 pm
@JOE….where’s the confidence poll?…….
the only difference from last year so far is that the results from both games came in different orders…last year we got blown out in the first game and then rebounded with a “w” on the road….this year we won with solid play on the road and got blown out in week2….we still lack talent and we still lack coaches that put their players in position to succeed….that brings me to my next issue….
dirk has to continue to run the ball….he abandons the run too soon which will handicap any offense and/or young qb….he needs to get more creative with the run game play calling….
mike smith has to do something more creative to generate pressure or get his players going….with a so called great defensive mind like his, there’s no way LVD should have zero tackles….
dirk is suppose to be a great offense mind…he was hired because of his work with Winston but the offseason improvements have yet to be seen from jameis…I’ve said all along that Jameis made dirk look good and not the other way around….his mechanics are still horrible….his footwork still needs major improvement….I’ve noticed last week and this week that Winston often drops his elbow when he’s throwing which causes his balls to sail high….dirk and his coaching staff should’ve noticed this last year and dealt with it….with that being said im a life long bucs fan so im here to the end but for us to regress after a solid performance regardless of opponent is concerning….GO BUCS!!!!
September 19th, 2016 at 1:19 pm
WOW!!! I have not seen BighogHeinous so happy since he learned he can watch Good Times reruns on one of those rerun station that he now gets on his TV antenna!!!!!!
But one thing you are right about bighog, is that they are learning the new scheme!!!! and they have had improvements in the penalty department for sure!!! We will give them time to learn the scheme and each year they will improve the roster!!! I look forward how they turn this last game into a lesson to be learned!!! I look forward to the coaching staff to keep adjusting and changing the culture!!! I look forward to the “coaching the lovie out of this roster!!”
Go Bucs!!!!!
September 19th, 2016 at 1:49 pm
Crap happens sometimes. Just a bump in the road where everything pointed to a Cardinal win before the game got underway. So many here predicted a Bucs win, welcome to reality. It bit real hard.
September 19th, 2016 at 1:58 pm
Every quarterback in the NFL has a bad game from time to time.
Jameis will learn from it, and Get better.
This loss was really no big deal.
Historically speaking the Bucs have always played less than stellar games when traveling West…
Unless there’s a Super Bowl involved!
September 19th, 2016 at 2:28 pm
Which was worse?
Jameis having ample time to throw yet throwing high or behind his targets or his #1 and #2 receivers inability to get open and not being the ball is so at least they could have contested the 2 interceptions on the off-target passes by Winston.
Mike Smith should be called out for not having them in the prevent defense in the waning moments of the first half. There was no reason to let Brown run through the defense and pick up a 51 yard touchdown and getting 10 yards past the defense. That was inexcusable.
Kwon Alexander whiffed on David Johnson 2 or 3 times.
Something went very wrong yesterday and didn’t even mention Gerald McCoy who was knocking down passes against Matt Ryan, a taller QB than Carson who was rarely knocked down the who game.
September 19th, 2016 at 4:27 pm
@realist….no excuses…this staff has had plenty of time to “coach the lovie out of players” and I think they have….as you’ve stated the penalties have drastically decreased….as you can see the blow outs are still alive and well….the only in game adjustment dirk made was to abandon the run game while smitty declined to make any adjustments at all….an incompetent GM along with the lack of quality talent and depth is whats holding us back…giving up draft picks for a kicker that’s still whiffing instead of addressing our needs(wr, de, saftey)….GO BUCS!!!
September 20th, 2016 at 1:41 am
^^^^BAM A LAM A LAM!!^^^