On The Backup Quarterbacks
August 30th, 2016
Team preparing for his exit.
It seems the Bucs are preparing for the post-Mike Glennon era.
Glennon, a favorite of former Bucs commander Greg Schiano, was shat on by Lovie Smith, demoted twice in favor of career stiff Stewart McClown, a man Lovie himself once cut in favor of the immortal Jason Campbell.
When McClown did what McClown does — earn his team a coveted top-two draft pick — it was a no-brainer that the Bucs would take a franchise quarterback, setting them up for the future.
Enter America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, and Glennon was quickly shoved aside.
Since, Glennon had been in the middle of wild trade speculation whenever a starter in the NFL is hurt, or when a team (Broncos, Cowboys, Jets) goes dumpster diving for quarterbacks. That trade chatter all but died this month, when Glennon’s preseason performances were subpar.
There likely will be a team next year that will either offer Glennon, currently in his final year of his contract, a shot at competing for a starting gig, or maybe even sign him with the intent to start him.
Clearly, Glennon knows barring a disastrous injury to Jameis, he would be just a backup here. So Joe cannot blame Glennon for having no interest in staying. It seems by the words of Bucs coach Dirk Koetter, the team is preparing for just such a move by Glennon.
“I think it’s safe [to say] that we’re probably going to keep three quarterbacks,” Koetter said yesterday. ” Two reasons: one, we put a lot of time into Ryan Griffin and I think he’s proving that he’s capable of being a backup in this league. And then the second thing is, obviously, it’s not a big secret that Mike Glennon is going into the last year of his contract. Jameis [Winston] is our quarterback for the long haul, but we’ve got to have a two and those guys take so long to train and with the calendar the way it is in the NFL where you can’t bring guys in early…
“I mean we’ve invested – well, we picked ‘Griff’ up at this time last year – so we’ve invested a full year into his training. A lot of that is him and [Quarterbacks] Coach Mike Bajakian a lot of time that you guys don’t know about.”
One doesn’t need a translator to figure out the Bucs fully believe Glennon is gone after the season. Oh, sure, it would be cool if he stayed. The Bucs could do far worse for a backup.
But Glennon is like every other NFL player. He wants to play. Joe can’t blame him one bit. Again, unless something catastrophic happens to Jameis, Glennon won’t be take snaps here outside of preseason games.
August 30th, 2016 at 7:30 am
I’m so glad that Jameis is our QB of the present and future, but I always liked Glennon and I hope he succeeds…wherever he goes next year. I think he probably could start for a few teams, and if he decided t stay in Tampa, I’d be fine with him being Jameis’s backup for 3 or 4 more years too!
Come to think of it,that wouldn’t be such a bad gig, would it? A good backup QB these days can make $5-$7 million a year, and doesn’t have to take the pounding every week that the starter does.
August 30th, 2016 at 7:34 am
Looking back, Lovie really set this franchise back a lot. Playing McCown at QB did absolutely nothing for this franchise. When Glennon won the Steelers game he should have kept the QB spot. I know McCown was injured, but c’mon, he was taking this franchise nowhere.
Now having said that, I really don’t think Glennon will ever be a starter in the NFL. He may get a start, but I don’t honestly think he has the skillset to keep the job. There are 31 teams out there who may pick him up, but if he was that talented, he would have been gone by now….
August 30th, 2016 at 7:47 am
Glennon is better than he has looked in preseason games this year but is really not starter material in this league. He’s got some solid intangibles like height and arm strength and high intelligence and experience. MG8s NFL statistics also show that he is a pretty good game manager which is exactly what you want in a back-up QB.
But Mike is not a “difference maker”. He will make some nice throws from time to time and in the past has usually made mostly good decisions. Glennon will not lose many games because of bad play – but he will not win many games because of great play either. A team like Denver would have been perfect for him to likely be successful as an NFL starter. But most teams want and need a difference maker at QB and Glennon doesn’t have “IT”.
Sorry MGM. If Glennon is a starter – its because a team has very few options at QB and he would be one of the least capable starters in the league. There’s no shame in being a solid back-up QB in the NFL which is squarely where MG8 sits right now. No more- no less.
August 30th, 2016 at 8:08 am
I agree with Wombat and Pickgrin except for 1 thing. I think if Lovie hadn’t started McCown the team probably would’ve won another game or 2 and wouldn’t have Winston.
August 30th, 2016 at 8:19 am
Why don’t they just cut the Bum, he’s garbage, trash. We wasted a 3rd round pick on this bum, just admit it and move on.
August 30th, 2016 at 8:46 am
31 other teams put the best players on the field and roster, we keeps players because we invested time in them???
” if they suck, they suck” Kobe faker
August 30th, 2016 at 8:54 am
Well said LakeLandBuc… you are absolutely right.
I said 18 months ago Glennon was completely irrelevant to bucs future and once again i was right. Glennon has played himself out of a chance to start and his horrible preseason play, lack of heart and the inability to shine against lesser talent have cost the bucs a draft pick.
August 30th, 2016 at 9:02 am
I totally think Mike leaves for a shot at a starting gig elsewhere even if the Bucs were to match the money. The guy seems like he wants the chance to start (which he won’t have in Tampa). That said you never know how things play out. If Koetter is successful and still the HC here 5 more years down the road there’s always the possibility Glennon returns to Tampa (probably to back up Jameis) if his quest to be a starter doesn’t pan out. The guy will never be the “sexy face of the franchise” QB that gets so many fans cover and get hot to buy jerseys for, he’s more a solid guy who can be very effective with an average to above average cast around him.
August 30th, 2016 at 9:10 am
ToesOnTheLine and rest of Glennon excuse makers.
If glennon can compete to start or be a reliable backup for years to come how come he cant dominate against lesser talent each and every tine he takes the field. Can’t wait for the excuses after all life is so unfair for little mikey.
August 30th, 2016 at 9:13 am
The commentators made a intrest ing point during the game when asked if he thinkam Glennon can start in this league and he Awnser ed absolutely, he mentioned a team like the Cardinals who will be looking for a replacement for Palmer after the season and said that Glennon would fit perfect in that offense they run up there. He will get his shot I’m sure of. Hoping the bucs can get something from him b4 he leaves.
August 30th, 2016 at 9:20 am
Stop it tmax. Mike didn’t cost us a penny. There’s no “what if” scenario that guarantees that we get a player from a draft pick that is even as good as Glennon. He’s a back-up and will be valued as such by other teams, even with his experience. Therefore, no team is going to give the Bucs a premium (3rd round or better) draft pick for him. Even if they got a 3rd, it still doesn’t guarantee that the player selected even makes the team.
He’s still on the team because he’s better than all but 1 QB on the roster whether you like it or not. That he’s not another Jameis, doesn’t make him a bum. And your statement about competing against lesser talent stands true for Griffin as well. What has Griffin shown that makes you go hmmm? He’s behind Mike on the depth chart for good reason.
So what if Mike is still on the depth chart if his contract is up after this year? The team’s better with him than without. If the team decides to part ways it’s what is in the best interest of the TEAM.
I will never understand the fervor for which some want this guy gone. He’s a Buc!
August 30th, 2016 at 9:39 am
Am I the only one who thinks Griffin will amount to nothing? Sorry, I just don’t see it.
August 30th, 2016 at 10:03 am
@ tmaxcon
Why are you so obsessed with his preseason performance!? That’s the only time he has played against (and WITH) lesser talent. If wins-losses is your only barometer of worth than you shouldn’t be thrilled with Jameis either. Any fan with a functioning brain should realize wins-losses is as much an indication of the quality (or good fortune…see 2010 Bucs) of the whole team as it is the QB. This is not an excuse but rather common sense. When given the limited opportunities he’s had in 2013 and 2014 he’s shown some traits that some teams with (1) a fanbase that doesn’t require energizing from a shiny new first round pick to sell tickets/merch (read as a winning franchise), and (2) a HC who is in no danger of being in the hot seat for taking a gamble on a 3rd round pick to start at QB (again read as a winning franchise or one with very patient ownership) will probably interest a few teams either needing a QB next year or have an aging star QB with not many years left.
August 30th, 2016 at 10:14 am
And the Glennon to Arizona scenario makes too much sense…they recently cut the guy out of Alabama they picked up this year (Coker) and have Matt Barkley and Drew Stanton left (both who have done far less with their opportunities than MG). Carson Palmer is gonna be 37 this season, so hopefully MG signs a fat contract there next year and the Bucs get a solid comp pick in return. Win-win scenario for Mike and the Bucs.
August 30th, 2016 at 10:19 am
Much like The Morning Cup of Joe cheerleader pics are easy on the eyes, watching Glennon play if not stand on the sidelines is very rough on the eyes. It’s like watching Peyton Manning minus the elite talent with Merton Hanks neck thrown in for good measure. Call me a mouth breather…but it doesn’t make me wrong. 🙂
August 30th, 2016 at 10:23 am
Wait for the season boys!
A few starting QB’s are gonna go down for the season.
That phone will ring before seasons end!
Just watch.
Orrrrr….
The saints will cut Drew Bree’s next year and sign Glennon and steal our play book.
August 30th, 2016 at 10:53 am
Bucsfanman and Toes
you are dead wrong if you don’t think glennon’s poor play the last two preseasons has not cost the bucs it has. All Mike had to do is go out and kick ass and teams would have been willing to give up a pick fo him. Glennon could not distance himself from McCown even with the cards against him if he would have played better lovie would have had no choice. Why are you giving Mike a free pass for poor play during 2 preseasons in a row. I could careless about wins but his play has been undeniably sub par. he had a decent game 2 weeks ago but did not wow anyone. If he is ready to take the next step and start, the preseason is where he needs to WOW people both the bucs and potential teams for next year. you say the preseason is meaningless and I agree for the most part that being said the preseason might as well be the playoffs for glennon that is his only chance to show his abilities he took ZERO snaps last year and everyone hopes to god he does not have to take any snaps this year. so yes the preseason is glennon’s superbowl whether you agree or not. he had a chance to shine andidid not. simple as that and yes it cost the bucs a draft pick.
August 30th, 2016 at 11:41 am
tmaxcon… see your doctor about medication for your Glennon anxiety attacks.
August 30th, 2016 at 11:51 am
Buccfan37
no medication needed. just setting the record straight when delusional glennon fans start with the quality backup, proven, reliable and future starter garbage. Just trying to help spread reality and the reality is glennon is not a valuable piece to the bucs future and is totally irrelevant. i am worried with glennon leaving Tampa soon and Murphy not being active I am going to have nothing to complain about.
August 30th, 2016 at 12:05 pm
@tmax- I don’t disagree about his performance. You could make the argument that he’s had Dye, Bell, Reedy, and Shepard to throw to but that’s just making excuses.
But, by your logic, a back-up QB costs us a draft pick because he’s in the last year of his contract is kind of silly. That would mean that Griffin would cost us a draft pick at his contract’s end. I don’t buy it. AND, tell me with a straight face that you are MORE comfortable with Griffin as your back-up over Glennon. I don’t think even you can say that!
I’m not as delusional as you suggest (my wife might argue!). I want the best 53 available for YOURS and MINE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS!!!
August 30th, 2016 at 2:32 pm
Tmaxcon says “Just trying to help spread reality and the reality is glennon is not a valuable piece to the bucs future and is totally irrelevant.”
The only reality you’re spreading is that you aren’t in touch with reality when it comes to Glennon. The fact he is currently projected to be the #2 QB on the Bucs depth chart signifies he plays into the Bucs future at least for the 16 regular season games coming up…in the future. The fact that Koetter has said he will carry 3 QB’s going into the regular season should also tell you that the coaching staff has looked at the film and determined that Ryan Griffin currently isn’t as good an option at QB as Glennon. You can spew your opinion as fact all you like, but the truth is Glennon will most likely be your Buccaneers #2 QB for the 2016 season as he gives them the best chance to win games if Jameis gets hurt. Hate that fact all you want, but it’s reality nonetheless.
August 30th, 2016 at 2:58 pm
19 619 364 58.8 32.6 4,025 6.5 211.8 29 4.7 15 2.4 85 51 10 56 405 83.7 These numbers represent a 19 game career for Glennon and on incredibly awful teams with little to no talent at the WR’s outside of V Jax. His TE’s sucked too, but morons like to say this guy can’t play when in reality he is a middle tier QB that played on horrible teams and got screwed by he who shall not be named by me, ever again. As you can see he has 4k yards 29 td’s to 15 int’s and completes almost 59% percent of his passes over those 19 games he played in. How in the hell does this equal a sorry player? Glennon will be a starter next year of that there is no doubt, it’s just a matter of where. Stats don’t lie and the stats show him to be well worth the 3rd round pick. Name 1 GM who would be upset with Glennon for his performance and numbers he put up after playing only 19 NFL games and with lousy Talent around him. I don’t believe thier is a GM in the league who wouldn’t want to be the one to draft a QB in the 3rd round have them put up those numbers in 19 games. Seems to me Glennon has met 3rd round expectations and then some. No I’m not a MGM member, I just speak the truth as do the stats.
August 30th, 2016 at 3:48 pm
I really dont see any team just giving glennon a starting job. That is optimistic even for his own Mother. No teams wanted to trade for glennon, this tells me no one thinks he is a starting caliber QB right out of the gate. Maybe they see potential where if he was ina system for a while he could become a starter. But at this point in his career glennon is far from a starting caliber QB in thw NFL. Im sure some QB thristy team will sign him and sit him on their bench, come April next year. But that doesnt mean they think he will be their starter. No one can honestly think that, they should be fired from their job and quit football altogether if they think that.
August 30th, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Licht obviously didnt care for glennon’s monster stats…. Dirk koetter as a coach has no use for glennon. Koetter likes an aerial assault. Glennon is more of a west coast qb. Dink and dunk, nothing dangerous, just take the check down whenever possible. That is not how a lot of coaches or GMs are. Sure glennon could fit into an offense somewhere, but he won’t fit just anywhere. So i totally disagree that any Gm would take glennon. His skill set is limited, but in the right offense it might be enough to have some success.
August 30th, 2016 at 4:28 pm
Reach out to the Vikings. They need a QB
August 30th, 2016 at 4:40 pm
i will be rooting for MG to go to some AFC team and tear it up. I think Andy Reid would work well with him, and Alex Smith won’t be around forever. The Browns will certainly be in the market after tanking with RG3, and i don’t think the Jets or Broncos have their long term solution locked down either. Unfortunately, if he landed with an NFC team, i would more than likely have to root against him to limit the playoff field.
August 30th, 2016 at 5:51 pm
MG8 for Cordaral Patterson. Teddy Bridgewater just got injured and we need a WR/ KR perfect match
August 30th, 2016 at 5:52 pm
@pick6
Andy has his Mike Glennon….they signed Nick Foles to a 2 year deal
August 30th, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Glennon sucks. Cut him now and keep an extra lineman.