Dirk Koetter Says He’s A Three-QB Guy
August 29th, 2016
No. 3 QB Ryan Griffin (left) is smiling.
Final roster prognosticators will like this one, and it will interest the Mike Glennon Mob.Moments ago, head coach Dirk Koetter said he plans to keep three quarterbacks on the roster this season. The Bucs’ No. 3 QB is Ryan Griffin, the ex-Saints backup who was acquired after final cuts last year and stuck with Tampa Bay.
Joe thinks Griffin might end up serving as a bargaining chip with the Mike Glennon camp.
After this season, the Bucs might make an offer to Glennon to stay a long-term backup to America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. Without Griffin around, Tampa Bay would have absolutely no leverage.
August 29th, 2016 at 3:39 pm
Mike might want to make a deal today…his play has not looked good this year. The Bucs may be one of the few organization that has a bid for his services.
August 29th, 2016 at 3:40 pm
If the Bucs want Glennon it would be best to not wait until the end of the season….perhaps after the trade deadline to make an offer…..if they wait, he will have other offers.
As for keeping Griffin….we all should have known that would happen….they need the third QB in case they trade Glennon this year…..same situation as last year.
August 29th, 2016 at 3:43 pm
because…..?? There aren’t enough 3rd string QBs who you hope will never see the field available? We should be drafting a Qb every 2-3 years.
August 29th, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Tampabaybucfan
why would the bucs want to keep glennon. please tell me when he has ever entered a game as a backup and either won or kept it close. How can you guys keep saying glennon is a proven backup when he has never performed in that role much less proven himself. I just want 1 example. 8 has choked in the 6 of the last 7 preseason games he has appeared in against lesser talent yet he still is being labeled a proven backup for a few good plays 2 years ago. it’s a what have you done for me lately league and believe me glennon barely did anything 2 years ago and has done NOTHING the last 18 months to suggest he is reliable and a proven backup. please I want 1 example of 8 entering a game as a backup and proving himself. the glennon is proven was laughable to begin with but for you people to just ignore how bad he is looked is hilarious.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:00 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if Glennon signed a backup QB contract with the Bucs, if coaching really values him that much. Nobody else wants him or there has been contact about Glennons availability, if I remember correctly. Hey! Trade Glennon for Kaepernick straight up. Man, we’d become real tough.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:05 pm
Nobody else will want him so offer cheap.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:09 pm
Tmax, did he take your lunch money when you were younger? Name me any back up in the NFL that had better stats than Glennon? How many rookies could have performed in a crap fest season after J Freeman torched the season? Point blank, he out performed Lovies boy Mccown, but Lovie wasn’t interested in putting the best players on the field? Is he Winston? No! But my god do you even watch other NFL games? He’s better than most of the NFLs backups. Gauging him against 2nd/ 3rd string receivers and line isn’t a reliable gauge. He has started and won games, that’s more than most teams have for backup QBs
August 29th, 2016 at 4:10 pm
I mean you outright hate the guy, were you a Freeman fanatic?
August 29th, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Why is Glennon’s mouth always half open? Makes him look like a dolt.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Chris
typical glennon guy… ignores the simple questions and resorts to childish banter. Anyhow, answer the question… When has 8 entered a game has a backup and looked good. I can list 10 to 15 backup qb’s with better stats but let’s just end that discussion with Mark Sanchez and his winning playoff record. Again, please explain to me how a guy who can’t look good in preseason over the course of 2 seasons makes you so confident in him. he has done nothing. a few good plays and a few horrendous plays two years ago does not make one a proven nfl backup. very few qb’s are good at the backup role and since glennon has never been called upon in that role it’s impossible to declare him proven, good or any other term. He is an unproven backup that flashed a few plays 2 years ago who lost all credibility diving out of bounds like a little girl right before the first down marker. is that type of qb you want leading your team. no i don’t think so… bucs need a backup qb neither glennon nor griffin are the answer.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:17 pm
“please tell me when he has ever entered a game as a backup and either won or kept it close.”
Trick question day? Now I haven’t fact checked this, but the only game I recollect Glennon coming in off the bench in relief of a QB who started the game was the Atlanta blowout game that McCown pretty much put away in the loss column by the 1st quarter (and managed to hurt his thumb). If you can think of another game feel free to add it, but that’s the only time I remember MG8 coming in off the bench as a “relief pitcher” (and he looked better than the human turnover machine).
August 29th, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Chris
and to be clear. i don’t hate the guy. I just get annoyed when i read all this proven and great stats crap when it’s simply just not accurate. he had a few good plays 2 years ago that’s it. nothing more.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:23 pm
ToesOnTheLine!!!
not really a trick question but yes you are correct. The point is 8 has never been put in a backup role much less a high pressure baby sit the team for 2 games during a playoff run type role yet every day we get to read what a proven backup we have. he has never proved anything. he made a few good plays 2 years ago but never has been a backup in a high pressure situation therefore he has proven NOTHING!!!!
August 29th, 2016 at 4:31 pm
Lol Mark Sanchez? Glennon looked better with a less talented team. Glennon guy? No, already stated that I like Jameis, but you act like backups grow on trees. Cut them both( Glennon and Griffin) thankfully you’re not the GM. I think Glennon is a decent QB that never went into a situation being the guy. If Lovie doesn’t have an agenda for Mccown, the season may have been different. Once again, Mccown had several teams bidding for him, that’s how much of a lack of talent the league has at QB. And between J Freman and Mccown, I’ve never seen two QBs that shat worse on the field than those two. Oh yeah, and you didn’t address the were you a Freeman guy, hence your animosity.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:33 pm
@….TMAXCON
Please note….I said “IF”
August 29th, 2016 at 4:35 pm
Sometimes, a QB just needs to..move on. Glennon may even be tired of TB. And he could have renewed energy elsewhere. Some QB’s have to become journeymen to get better. I believe Glennon is one of these. He’s average..at best. We can always draft another QB in the higher rds next year.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Not a Glennon fan, kid has sucked recently. However, I do remember him beating Pittsburgh the week after McClown got hurt. Don’t think anyoone’s gonna offer anything for him though, praying for a comp pick but not expecting it.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Chris
Not a freeman guy at all. i liked his good season just like any fan of the team would but never was a so called freemanite. Players come and go the only constant is the team. I could careless about loyalty to players if they can’t help the team or there is a better option so be it no one will remember 95% of the players 5 years after their last snap anyway.. I am bucs fan for the team. I don’t get attached to players. don’t get me wrong I have my favorites but if there is a better option available everyone on bucs roster is replaceable minus jameis of course. franchise qb don’t grow on trees.
the question you asked was name a backup with better stats and I did Sanchez has a winning record both regular seasons and playoff. Glennon does not. You once again did not answer the question but spouted off your opinion which is fine bu
August 29th, 2016 at 4:40 pm
How about the one season a coach had confidence in him, 2013, back to back wins and a QB rating above 137? 20/23 against Atlanta and the near win in Seattle with another high QB rating? With a garbage team?
August 29th, 2016 at 4:43 pm
“I think Glennon is a decent QB that never went into a situation being the guy.”
Yes he did, with Schiano. You can say he never had a fair shake but the fact is, good players make plays. Glennon didn’t make enough.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:47 pm
No, Schiano started the season of doom with Freeman and was fired after that season. Glennon didn’t go into the season as the guy. And yeah, high QB rating and good stats on a crapfest team does mean you made plays
August 29th, 2016 at 4:49 pm
tmaxcon… that Glennon led win at the Steelers was a big win.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:51 pm
If either of the “G-rated” QBs…Glennon or Griffin have to play meaningful minutes…we may as well lay the flowers down on the Bucs season. There is no need to keep either after this season. I still marvel at the imaginary trade market that has become urban legend regarding Glennon.
August 29th, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Glennon isn’t as bad as some people think. He also isn’t as great as some people think.
The QB position is the most dependent position in football. In order for a QB to be successful all 10 other guys have to do their job very well. In 2013 and 2014 the Bucs offensive line woefully under-performed with the likes of Garrett Gilkey (remember when he rolled a snap to McCown?), Anthony Collins, Oneil Cousins, Kevin Pamphile (at the time), Patrick Omameh. With the exception of Logan Mankins and Demar Dotson that offensive line unit was pitiful. I think Mike Glennon could be a starter in the right situation. He’s marginally better than a few starting QBs out there.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Buccfan37
the steelers came out flat and did not take bucs seriously. not to take credit away from the team a win is a win but let’s not forget the facts. one game and a couple of plays two years ago is enough for some of you to have confidence in glennon. I have never had confidence in 8 and when given the opportunity with the exception of two weeks ago, his play has done nothing to change my mind. i am glad he has fans everyone needs someone i guess…
matt flynn had a couple of good games then when on to rob teams of 30 plus million in two separate contracts. hopefully glennon does the same.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:01 pm
That’s why we should’ve drafted Braxton Miller
August 29th, 2016 at 5:02 pm
If Koetter is serious about Griffin, then he should trade Glennon for a dime. Doesn’t make sense.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:06 pm
LocalJoker
you are correct. my guess is koetter is not sold on griffin thus forced to waste a roster spot by keeping two bad backups hoping to salvage one backup. i am not sold on griffin that being said Glennon surely did not outplay Griffin significantly or at all.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:09 pm
UGGHGHHH there are many free agent QBs that are better than griffin. and hell. by the time glennon is gone there might be plenty more. a couple of teams are holding on to alot of qbs for competitions right now.
It isnt hard to find a backup at glennon’s level. and its not worth the roster spot
August 29th, 2016 at 5:21 pm
Who’s the stud in the middle?
August 29th, 2016 at 5:27 pm
This just in : Jason Licht ran out of Cheez-It crackers and traded Glennon for another box.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:33 pm
when I grow up, I want to be the third string qb.
August 29th, 2016 at 5:49 pm
It would seem to me they could take a chance and put Griffin on the practice squad…..if someone takes him….just sign another practice squad player……if by some chance Glennon gets traded….just make due…..we will be ok with that after the trade deadline at least…..
August 29th, 2016 at 5:50 pm
@Joe … “Joe thinks Griffin might end up serving as a bargaining chip with the Mike Glennon camp.” Bingo Joe. Sorta kinda think that Licht & Koetter are seeing the bigger picture here, at least more-so than some fans it sounds like. If Glennon gets traded or doesn’t re-sign as a backup come the end of the year, then voila, Bucs have Griffin to fall back on. If Glennon does re-sign, his deal probably won’t be exorbitant if the Bucs still have Griffin in the wings. If Jameis were to get injured, Bucs still have 2 QBs who know their offense. It costs them a spot on the roster, but Bucs will only dress 2 QB on gamedays anyways.
August 29th, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Tampabaybucfan
Griffin is not practice squad eligible
August 29th, 2016 at 6:17 pm
Glennon would be foolish to sign an extension now, while his stock is at the lowest it’s been since arriving in Tampa Bay. There are so many teams hungry for a legitimate starting QB that guys like Kirk Cousins, Brock Osweiler, and Tyrod Taylor are getting paid $15-20M per season.
Glennon’s stock will only go up as the season progresses, injuries happen, and some of the other QB situations play themselves out. There is enough good tape of Glennon’s previous work to justify somebody paying him at least $12M per season with a legitimate shot at a starting position.
There are at least 5 teams with big question marks at QB in Washington, Cleveland, NY Jets, San Francisco, and Dallas. Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, and Philip Rivers won’t play forever. All it takes is one team to fall in love with Glennon’s potential, and there’s a sucker born every minute.
On the other hand, let’s just say we play Devil’s Advocate. Is it worth $8-10M per season to have Glennon around? Winston seems very durable, so his backups may never see the field for quite a few seasons. Also, how would that play in the locker room? Glennon would get paid more than many of the legitimate stars on the team.
In summary, there isn’t a single good reason for either the Bucs or Glennon to agree to a contract extension.
August 29th, 2016 at 6:56 pm
Glennon isn’t going to get a crazy contract, just like Matt Moore who has played similarly won’t. Might as well try to lock him up after his sub par preseason. We will either have a decent back up for years to come or if his value rises in a trade you can get a better return without his contract expiring the end of the year
August 29th, 2016 at 6:57 pm
Soon, Griffin will be #2 on the depth chart
Griffin has shown that he plays to win
Glennon plays to have good stats
August 30th, 2016 at 12:18 am
Who remember’s when Glennon lead his crappy Buc”s up to Seattle and beat the snot out of them in the first half. Like, 18-0 or something like. They blew it of coarse but when they took the shackes off him. In the first half. He lite them up. Plus wasn’t he the QB when the team was trying to lose games. When we went up 2 or 3 scores up at the half. In the season finally. Then processed to pass the ball twice in the second half. As the other team came back and won.
August 30th, 2016 at 12:39 am
@Chris
Team wasn’t as bad as you think. Freeman led us to a top ten offense the year before and we had just come off a 7-9 season and added Revis and Goldson to set us up for a playoff run. If Glennon had played like a franchise QB then Lovie wouldn’t have signed McCown or drafted Jameis. Glennon is no better than average, nothing to be ashamed about.