Banks’ Struggles Continue; Revealing Video
August 18th, 2016
Another rough day for Johnthan Banks
This was supposed to be a breakout summer for Johnthan Banks, the Bucs’ second-round pick in 2013.
Free from the shackles of Lovie Smith, Banks is primed to thrive in his contract year.
But the opposite has happened. Banks looks like a bubble player, and one lacking the talent he flashed as a rookie covering Calvin Johnson, and as a second-year man leading the Bucs with four interceptions. (Keep in mind all Bucs corners combined for just two picks last year).
Banks was happy for the fresh start under new coordinator Mike Smith. But Banks is struggling mightily and appears to be the No. 6 corner on the depth chart, which is not the safest place when it comes to job security.
Below, the JoeBucsFan.com video team caught this all-around poor effort from Banks yesterday in Jacksonville. He’s covering Jags second-year man Rashad Lawrence, who has zero career catches. Banks gets beat, which happens, but he also gives up on the play before it was over.
Joe hopes Banks can snap out of his funk. He might be running out of time.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:20 am
There is NEVER an excuse for giving up on a play or ever lacking effort! I too sure hope he shapes up. We Need his length, not to mention it would represent another failed high draft choice for a perpetually rebuilding team.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:22 am
Really sad to hear and watch all this unfold for the young n Talented Banks, u know the potential is there, he’s flashed it several times his first 2 years but it’s seems every since Lovie ruining his confidence and mind set he hasn’t been able to recover. There’s no way he’s a 6th corner, but on this depth chart there is no room for the weak. Hope he pulls it together but it doesn’t look good. I’ve noticed that when he has to flip his hips he gets caught and can’t recover, that’s where all that length doesn’t help u. That’s one of VH3s strengths, he has very quick hips and breaks on the ball very nicely.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:25 am
Best of luck to JB going forward. Not so sure that will be with the Buccs, disenfranchised by the previous guy then be forced to sit back and watch all the corner additions to this team. I can see how his spirit might be somewhat shot.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:30 am
This position not easy man. Video from yesterday shows Vjax making Jalen Ramsey look really silly in drills yo.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:38 am
Banks has never been an over achiever. He has always given up when beaten. Drafting him in the 2nd round was a big reach for the Bucs, I feel sorry for the Bucs and for Banks that it never paid off. But his is a league for big boys. The payday is big and the talent needs to be big as well.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:47 am
wants to be traded.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:51 am
Nonsense. Coaches don’t ruin players. That’s moronic fan-speak. Anyone who allows themselves to be disenfranchised by a person is a weak person. What is more accurate to the truth is that the current coaching staff is seeing for themselves all the things Lovie Smith’s staff saw last season. This current coaching staff has given Jonathan Banks every opportunity possible to showcase his skill set. He’s been performing poorly for nearly a month now.
Players say it all the time: The eye in the sky doesn’t lie. He’s had a terrible camp. If he doesn’t want to be in Tampa anymore he’s putting bad effort on film consistently. It won’t do him any favors in free agency.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:53 am
Even if that is true he’s been consistently putting bad effort on film for a month. Heck, he’s been putting out bad film going back to last season.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:57 am
BringBucsBack Says
“There is NEVER an excuse for giving up on a play or ever lacking effort!”
I’m sure he was told to avoid collisions. Banks normally does not give up on plays.
August 18th, 2016 at 8:58 am
After lovies bs, and then us bringing in grimes and hargreaves, then verner returning to pro bowl form, he might’ve realized the highest possible slot for him is 4th and that could damage someone’s spirits.
He probably needs new scenery. A new team and I bet he’d rebound. He actually played nicely in the preseason game
August 18th, 2016 at 9:05 am
passthebuc Says
“Banks has never been an over achiever. He has always given up when beaten.”
Complete bull.
D-Rome Says
“Nonsense. Coaches don’t ruin players. That’s moronic fan-speak. Anyone who allows themselves to be disenfranchised by a person is a weak person.”
I disagree. Most students coming out of college are impressionable. A Man doesn’t (normally) become fully mature until around the age of 26 or so, and Banks is only just now reaching that.
Banks was consistent in his first two years. It was clear he had the talent and the drive. Being yanked from the starting role was a major blow, especially since he didn’t deserve to be yanked (unless there was some behavior issue we all don’t know about).
Everyone knows I liked Lovie Smith, but I have always said he blew it with Banks.
A Coach CAN ruin a player. Gruden ruined young QBs all the time.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:06 am
I still believe Banks has what it takes, but what bugs me is that he won’t likely get to show it in Tampa.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:10 am
It may take a few more preseason games to “coach the LOVIE out of him”.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:17 am
D-Rome, What film…. Practice? He played ok in the first preseason game. He didn’t play much at all last year and the year before that he had four INT’s. Team leading as Joe has pointed out several times.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:18 am
I said last yr Banks Should be a Youth counselor somewhere. He flashed his 1st yr in the league and has been going down hill ever since. Like many in our secondary, he is good at tackling the opposition after..they gain 20 to 40 yrds.
Sorry Harry..You’re to much weight to carry! Cut him and wish him well. We (the Bucs) need ballers!
August 18th, 2016 at 9:28 am
going back to his despondent performances last year, it doesn’t seem like Banks has embraced the “hate to lose” mentality that his head coach and QB constantly talk about. if he’s on the fringes of the 53 man roster, it sounds like he will almost certainly lose the tiebreaker to another player showing more fight and intensity.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:46 am
I was never a fan of his play, but I wish him the best of luck on another squad or with us… In the unlikely event he steps up play. Hard to coach effort and personal fortitude. All in all it sounds like he needs to pull up his skirt and get to work.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:48 am
D-rome have you ever played organize sports??? And who the hell are to say what can and cannot go inside another humans being mind. That’s idiotic in my book. Now if you’ve had a confirmed chat with Mr. Banks and you can elude to a confirmed side of the coin so to speak fine. If yours just like mines is an opinion @$$ hole.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:51 am
I can’t believe that today’s nfl teaches cornerbacks to turn their backs to the quarterback. It just doesn’t make any Sence and This video is proof.
August 18th, 2016 at 9:57 am
Think you might’ve watched “Remember the Titans” one too many time dude. This concept everyone in professinoal sports is built ford tough is nomesince. Some men are mentally stronger than others PERIOD That guy in Miami couldn’t stand the treatment in the lockerroom. It came out and now hazing is a thing of the past. Smart guy.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:02 am
Buc bonzai, I disagree with you. coaches can’t ruin players, if a player is affected by his coaches desisions and teachings(as far as his play and production) then he really has no business making millions while having the mental makeup of an infant. Your arguments sound liberal and blameless. Coaches can’t ruin players, but players can ruin coaches careers.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:09 am
Checki it if I’m a pro player and given an opportunity to play for a guy and do fairly well. A diffrent guy comes in sits me down and gives my job to someone not as good as me. You crazy if you don’t think that would mess with a young man’s mind. JB is a young man still figuring life out. But he doesn’t have the right to be bummed about this situation why, because his salary is greater than most of our??? F@$! Outta here wit that weak @$$ s@$$!.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:11 am
Theses individuals are not preprogrammed robots they’re human beings. You know beings wit feelings and emotions.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:15 am
before d rome comes back with how hes played individual sport and has accomplishments, yada x3, lets just be clear, masturbation is not actually considered a sport. we dont need or want to hear about your accomplishments. plus, we all know pablo leads the league in all athletic and non-athletic related activities
if coaches cant ruin players then they cant make players better is basically what youre saying
August 18th, 2016 at 10:17 am
Thank you dirk.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:37 am
I’ve played both team and individual sports. Yes, I understand and acknowledge the importance of the coach/player relationship. I also understand that a coach can ruin a player when they are children or teenagers by killing their desire to play the sport because they’re too hard on them. At the professional level it doesn’t happen. Coaches don’t ruin players at the professional level any more than a boss at your job can ruin your professional career or ruin your effort. There are a few guys here who were on last year’s team that was benched by Lovie Smith. You don’t see them having as bad a showing.
I don’t believe for one second Jonathan Banks’ fee-fees were hurt by Lovie Smith. He’s simply under-performing at Training Camp. There are people all over watching his performance. He may be able to dog it here and latch on to another team but more than likely his career isn’t going to go anywhere. In other words, as someone else pointed out, he’s likely peaked. The current staff don’t care where he was drafted. He’s likely done here.
Maybe he can hang out with Da’Quon Bowers and they can both complain about how their former coaches screwed them over.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:39 am
That was a bad look. But D.rome… Coaches can absolutely make or destroy a player. Confidence is possibly the biggest key in a cornerback becoming successful. Confidence just doesn’t go away in one play and it doesn’t just come back because there is a new coach. Been watching him as much as possible in the preseason as I can. He looks like a tentative player. Maybe the defensive leader on the team needs to sit him down and help him through it. Maybe he needs a totally new situation to standout. Maybe he will never get it back. I imagine those things are twirling around in his head now.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:45 am
seems like lovie was right about banks….in his first year he was basically given the starting job opposite of revis….once he had to earn his position it was down hill from there….lovie didn’t ruin him….banks is what lovie thought he was which is a 4th or 5th cb at best on this team….I say move him to free safety…we could use his length and ball skills on the back end…3 bad tc’s in a row at cb aint good…say what you want but lovie was right with banks….GO BUCS!!!!
August 18th, 2016 at 10:45 am
Only problem d Rome is that bowers never flashed like banks did. Look how lvd regressed with lovie compared to schiano. Lvd is just obv a much better player(mentally?) but the example is still there.
Why does it seem like so many of our “fans” are actually rooting for our players and coaches to fail? I don’t get it.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:52 am
@nole says,”if I’m a pro player and given an opportunity to play for a guy and do fairly well. A diffrent guy comes in sits me down and gives my job to someone not as good as me. You crazy if you don’t think that would mess with a young man’s mind.”….
its called being a professional….everyone knows when there’s a change at hc everyone except for a few players have to prove themselves and show there worth….banks has been practicing like this for 3 training camps now….GO BUCS!!!!
August 18th, 2016 at 11:09 am
@headball…that’s just 1 example….one could say look how players like doug and gmc thrived under lovie….GMC managed to get the same production in less games…doug had similar production from his rookie year with fewer carries last year….GO BUCS!!!!
August 18th, 2016 at 11:22 am
it seems Banks best fit was with the Greg Shiano defense, Mike Smiths multiple defense calls for a more verstaile corner that is quick and athletic. This might be the edge that puts Josh Robinson over Banks.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:24 am
We can all just agree to disagree on this one.
August 18th, 2016 at 12:15 pm
You say gmc thrived yet how many ppl rip him for poor play and production. Just proves the point that coaches can and do impact players. For better or for worse depending on the player and situation
August 18th, 2016 at 1:02 pm
@headball….wrong…people rip gmc for being injured, helping the opposing player off the ground and not holding his defensive partners accountable…no one has complained about his production….GO BUCS!!!!
August 18th, 2016 at 2:06 pm
Debatable. There are a few that claim his production is not that of a top 5dt in the nfl and especially not that of the top 100 list voted on by the players. Just saying. JJ watt played hurt all last year. And he had injuries in previous years a well. Gmc still has good production as you say. And on the leadership it’s tough to lead sabby the goat or slowborn or countless other teammates gmc has had over the years. He’s a really really really ridiculously good player. Accept it. He’s had some of the worst teams imaginable surrounding him.
August 18th, 2016 at 3:13 pm
Banks cant cover a slant
August 18th, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Joe, Banks is the one got torched @ Carolina last year….I meant the entire defense did, but he stood out. Man, it is nice to have depth this season.
August 19th, 2016 at 7:39 pm
I really like J.Banks and was really rooting him. I could just remember his rookie season shutting down Calvin Johnson the 2nd half of the and got the interception to seal the game or in his 2nd season 6-pick off rg3 and ran him over gettin the the end zone. I hope is can somehow put together 3 great pre season games and make the team