“It’s Going To End Up Being A Factor”
July 25th, 2016
New JoeBucsFan.com columnist eye-RAH! Kaufman, Tampa Bay’s only Hall of Fame voter, disagrees with Joe on a very hot Bucs topic — on national radio.
Newcomer to the JoeBucsFan.com family, Tampa Bay’s only Hall of Fame voter eye-RAH! Kaufman has been liberated from the shackles of mainstream media.
And just hours into his new gig, Kaufman was loudly and boldly disagreeing with Joe on national radio this morning.
Joe applauds the behavior.
Joining PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio with ProFootballTalk.com guru Mike Florio, the discussion quickly turned to Miko Grimes, the outspoken wife of new Bucs Pro Bowl cornerback Brent Grimes. Miko, as many fans know, has grabbed many headlines for all the wrong reasons over the past year.
Kaufman believes Grimes is a calculating powder keg ready to explode when she doesn’t like what she sees on the field.
“History has proven she can’t help herself. Whether she’s weighing in on Black Lives Matter, or in two months, The Bucs Don’t Matter, it’s going to be a problem, Mike. Now look, she’s very calculated. She wanted to get her husband out of Miami. It ended up working and [Dolphins owner] Stephen Ross said she was a factor. She started [this month] with a quasi-anti-semitic remark a couple of weeks back. It didn’t sit well with the Bucs front office. They decided to take a pass in terms of response. But if the Bucs start 1-4 and she starts going after Jameis Winston or Vincent Jackson or Gerald McCoy, there’s going to be a problem here in Tampa. …
“It’s only a matter of time before those Tweets start referring to a player on this [Bucs] team, and when that happens, it’s going to be a big story down here.”
Florio asked Kaufman if he thinks Miko puts Brent Grimes on a shorter-than-usual leash for a veteran player. “Even if [Miko] never [attacks Bucs players on social media], doesn’t what she’s already done make Brent Grimes vulnerable, if and when they’re trying to asses, ‘Do we keep him? Do we keep a younger guy?’ Won’t that be a factor in that overall analysis? … Because we’re moving on from this chronic headache that we have that potentially at some point is going to turn itself back on us?” Florio asked?
“I don’t think it’s any question it’s going to be a factor,” Kaufman said. “Grimes better play very well at the age of 33.”
Kaufman noted the irony of Dirk Koetter and Mike Smith knowing Grimes and Miko as well as any coaching tandem in the NFL from their days with the Falcons.
Joe really thinks Miko is a non-factor regarding the Bucs’ decision-making. They signed Brent Grimes with their eyes wide open. Team Glazer and Jason Licht and not reckless or unseasoned businessmen. Brent Grimes is scheduled to make a pile of cash and he’s 33 years old. If he performs, he sticks. If he is second-rate, then he’ll be a distant memory next season. Miko is just noise, Joe believes.
As Lovie Smith would say, simple as that.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:07 am
If the media just ignores Miko nobody would know who she is, yeah that’ll work.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:08 am
If Joe thinks Miko should be ignored, he could start by ignoring her.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:11 am
Joe is right. Miko is s non factor. She is only a entertaining side show. Glazers should embrace her she gets more national press than the bucs PR department
July 25th, 2016 at 11:19 am
Ira’s offended by her. It’s his right. Maybe there’s SOME truth as to her effect on Brent’s career. There shouldn’t be.
A lot of people spend a lot of time being offended. Just remember, we create our own Karma. So, is it worth it?
July 25th, 2016 at 11:29 am
To think that she is not a factor is living in a fantasy world.
Your family and especially your spouse is a direct reflection of yourself and to think that an employer doesn’t take note of that kind of disfunction especially if it turns to negative press of the Bucs is not reality.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:30 am
Sorry Joe’s but I completely agree with this comment by TampaBayBucsFan. Miko Grimes is only as relevant as the media make her out to be starting with the local media.
When Joe thinks the Miko subject is relevant, Joe will write about it. Really simple. Joe follows only one rule here. If it’s grabs Joe’s attention, then Joe writes about it.–Joe
July 25th, 2016 at 11:39 am
Steve from oregon
If players are so mentally weak a loud mouth wife affects thier play they should not be in the nfl.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:42 am
See if Joe can get this straight: If the fans claim Miko is a distraction (she isn’t), then why would “the media” ignore her? That seems bassackwards.
So you are suggesting players don’t use social media and the lone way the players learn of Miko’s writings is if “the media” writes about it? Fascinating!
Miko is good for the Bucs. Yes, really. If she really is a distraction (she isn’t), that tells Joe there are very weak and sensitive minds in the locker room and they need to be flushed out.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:49 am
This is just silly.
As Joe wrote before Jason Licht said it, losing is a far bigger distraction.
Tom Brady’s wife shoots off her mouth about Pats receivers.
Kurt Warner’s bulldog wife shot off her mouth when he played for the Rams.
You want distractions? How about your No. 3 receiver having his infant son dying in a hospital room the day before the NFC championship game. Hint: Bucs 2002.
Claiming a player’s wife on social media is a distraction is manufactured nonsense.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:53 am
Not sure about this guys. You lose your winning formula if you say “Ira says this, but Joe says that.” I’d kind of like for eye-rah to be one of the joes, but I understand you want to promote your hiring coup. I’m thinking “The Joe with the hall of fame vote says this, the Joes (a Joe) without one say (says) that.” I would hyphenate the entire moniker in the genitive, but not the nominative.
July 25th, 2016 at 11:56 am
The last time I can recall reading about a player’s spouse comments on JBF was Amanda Tynes….looking forward to hearing more from other Buc wives…
July 25th, 2016 at 11:58 am
Joe beat me to it. Tom Brady’s wife calls out referees, Wes Welker, o linemen etc etc. And it’s literally just white noise because it’s the Patriots and that kind of stuff is not going to play a role and influence their play.
Then you look at the Dolphins. They are weak. They actually let Miko impact what happened on the field.
Now if Miko mouths off in Tampa, we may truly find out if this team really is transitioning into a winner, or if we are still just losers like the Dolphins.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:01 pm
These threads really make me wonder about the psyche of some of the posters.
I’d be curious to hear a female perspective on this. Realist?! 🙂
July 25th, 2016 at 12:06 pm
a player’s wife has the ability to take something that was supposed to stay in the locker room, on the practice field, or between teammates and put it out there for fans and the media to analyze and criticize. coaches and owners HATE breaches of that type, whether it’s a player, agent, wife, a low-level employee, former coach – franchises don’t relish forced transparency. Miko’s run at Tannehill and the Dolphins organization often involved information that could or should have stayed behind closed doors. Ira is right, if the content turns from heated takes on current events and feuds with journalists over to dirty laundry from inside one buc, coaches, players, and the owners will take issue with that
July 25th, 2016 at 12:07 pm
Largo:
I don’t blame Miko one bit for loathing Ross. He’s a clown and tried to make her a scapegoat for his losing franchise, meanwhile trying to renegotiate Brent Grimes’ contract.
Now that she is out of Miami, what is Ross going to use as an excuse for losing if the Dolphins have another dreaded season?
Remember when Jeff Garcia’s dad used to rip Chucky? Pretty sure the Bucs won 18 games in two years with Garcia’s dad being a “distraction.” smh
July 25th, 2016 at 12:07 pm
@bucsfanman
I had to wake up your mom, but she said that miko will be arrested twice at RJS for disorderly, and that B Grimes will be cut at the end of the year!!! anything else before she makes me a samich!!!!!!
July 25th, 2016 at 12:09 pm
LMAO! Just checking to see where that chicken-head ended up!
July 25th, 2016 at 12:10 pm
I’ll take the over on that one Realist. Especially for the later games.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:12 pm
if she keeps tweeting inflammatory stuff that has nothing to do with football or the bucs, so be it, but when she runs out of other fodder, i’m assuming she’ll fall back on the fact that the main thing that makes her relevant is the football team her husband suits up for and the inside takes that gives her access to. Brent’s career is almost over, she may feel compelled to start a few more very public dumpster fires to clinch the necessary fame launch her reality TV career
July 25th, 2016 at 12:13 pm
@Bucsfanman
Sorry, Just jokes!!! I think I am all fired up this year and its just the rookies reporting today!!!!
July 25th, 2016 at 12:15 pm
Joe,
You are comparing the distraction of this dumbass hood rat to Jurevicius’ son’s illness and death? One distraction can divide the team while the other no doubt lifted up and inspired the whole team.
You are a complete dumbass for making that comment. Simple as that.
I’ve lost some respect for your integrity.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:16 pm
All good! I wouldn’t have it any other way!
I’m starting to get restless myself. Football is on the horizon, and not a moment too soon. Watching the Rays this year has been like watching paint dry. Almost as bad as the Bucs defense last year, ALMOST!
July 25th, 2016 at 12:24 pm
So there are good distractions and bad distractions? Do tell! Never heard a paranoid football coach utter such a thing, and Joe has been around paranoid football coaches damn near his entire life.
Anyone who believes a player’s wife is a distraction — unless she’s banging half the team — is the same type of person who sees black helicopters hovering over them wherever they walk and lay awake at night worried about SkyNet.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:26 pm
See that?! That’s what I’m talking about. Who here drew the same conclusion as ElioT? SMH
July 25th, 2016 at 12:33 pm
Well..I do agree in part with Ira..
But I guess we will have to wait and see..nothing else to do at this point..Brent is signed and now it’s just a matter of the waiting game..
Just wish she would have gotten tix behind the bench of the visitors..I meant to say that in the other thread..
July 25th, 2016 at 12:34 pm
@Joe Elio T. does have point] about the type of distractions.But everybody here has opinions and most are smart enough to not call people dumbasses for having one.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:47 pm
Ruffling feathers today I see.
July 25th, 2016 at 12:47 pm
Some distractions are good for the team though..When Kwon’s brother was killed two days before game day..it made our Bucs like a SB bound team..they rallied together like with Joe’s son’s death..
AND let me say, we would have been playoff bound if Kwon would have played..I remember when NFL network had us to be the tough team to beat in the last 4 weeks..before Kwon’s suspension though..
July 25th, 2016 at 1:04 pm
i think it’s fair to say that players and fans feel differently about a “distraction” that folks would generally deem as beyond someone’s control (a family tragedy, a natural disaster, a controversial call or ruling going against a team or player, etc) than they do about a distraction that reflects poor choices or a lack of regard for the team goal (a spouse or hanger-on of a player sowing discord, infidelity involving players’ spouses or significant others, a leaked or intentional negative statement about a teammate, league or team discipline due to obvious carelessness or poor decisions, etc). The former is more likely to be a rallying point, while the latter will at best be brushed off and at worst could derail a locker room
July 25th, 2016 at 1:05 pm
If it wasn’t for Miko, the Bucs wouldn’t be getting any national press.
July 25th, 2016 at 1:14 pm
I continue to be amazed at the media’s simple ignorance of the fact that THEY are the ones who make her an issue. She is a nobody with a loud mouth on twitter. Who foeking cares!?! She does not exist unless the media start reposting her twits and talking about distractions… Do the players care what she has to say? Probably not. Coaches? Probably not. Do they resent the MEDIA bringing it up all the time? Yup. There’s your distraction… Next subject.
July 25th, 2016 at 1:45 pm
Joe….you are not thinking about this as a business. If an employees wife is a distraction to the greater good of the business with her antics, that employee is getting fired.
It has nothing to do with emotionally week employees.
July 25th, 2016 at 1:52 pm
Also…yes there are distractions that bring a team together, your 2002 reference, most recently the Colts coach going out with cancer and Arians and the team stepping up.
There are also distractions that run down the team….too many examples to list.
July 25th, 2016 at 2:11 pm
It won’t be a distraction, until it is!!!!
Some thought having parties and mattress in the front yard wasn’t a distraction as well!!!!!!
July 25th, 2016 at 3:15 pm
I have to say I think Miko goes off the rails if the Bucs are losing… you’re going to see tweets to the tune of “WHAT THE F DID WE DO SIGNING HERE!?” It’s all well and good when you have high hopes, but when they’re out of it by Halloween, don’t be surprised when….
…. .”MOUNT SAINT MIKO…..”
…. erupts.
** Yes, Joe. That one is yours… from me to you. Feel free to use that as Miko’s moniker. 😉
July 25th, 2016 at 3:39 pm
Miko? Is that a Pokémon character? What is a Miko?
July 25th, 2016 at 4:21 pm
If a Miko tweets and nobody is there to see it, did it really happen?
Don’t feed the trolls! Ignore Miko.
July 25th, 2016 at 4:50 pm
Uh, is this Ira’s first official JBF post?? What a way to hit the history books…
July 25th, 2016 at 7:05 pm
TMAX Yeah we’re in agreement!
@JOE
This is a thread that makes me think very highly of you. First of all because you’re behaving like a winner by letting IRA do what you hired him to do. You appear to be comfortable in your own skin. 99% of the time you handle posters very well because of this “comfort” in your own opinion. The 1% are for the jackwads that aggravate us all.
I also totally agree with your take on this particular issue. IF…MIKO is such a distraction that she can upset this team’s chemistry then this is not a real team but simply another collection of NFL football players. That’s what we’re used to watching in Tampa..not football teams but collections of players. Hopefully those days are behind us!
I’ve worked in broadcasting and then spent a couple of decades managing my wife’s dental office. I recall plenty of times when spouses of employees were total PITA’s. If the employee was talented or a decent human we certainly didn’t hold the spouse against them.
This country is yyyyuugggeee on observing the 2nd Amendment. The 1st Amendment…not so much.
July 25th, 2016 at 9:01 pm
BucTrooper..
That was good..lol…
July 25th, 2016 at 11:26 pm
I say completely ignore everything she says and only post her scantily clad pics (she’s hot).
July 26th, 2016 at 5:01 am
He said asses
July 26th, 2016 at 7:19 am
Speaking of Kwon, has any one seen how big he’s gotten in the offseason?? Holy cow. He’s huge now. Check it out.
July 26th, 2016 at 3:27 pm
She definitely can be a distraction. You can’t ignore her when she slams the QB, the offense and the owner like she did the entire season last season. Don’t you think the guys on offense would get ticked off by constant attacks by the wife of a guy on the defensive side. Damn right it would cause trouble in the locker room. This site definitely propped her up when Grimes signed with the Bucs. So it definitely isn’t just when she makes news that this site has talked about her. I believe Giselle only limits her comments to after the Super Bowl. She’s not a constant complainer. I don’t recall Kurt Warner’s wife being all that bad. That was before twitter anyway. Both comparisons are stupid as hell.