Scouting Report: Blitz Mariota, Not Jameis
June 8th, 2016
Joe touched on this topic recently, but here’s more data and a breakdown from a renowned personnel guru and ex-Jets linebackers coach.
Pat Kirwan is seen below on RealFootballNetwork.com video talking about quarterbacks who fare well against the blitz. The breakdown looks specifically at how many times the QB is sacked when blitzed. Third-best in the NFL is America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. Worst last year was coach killer Marcus Mariota and Russell Wilson.
The presence of Wilson surprised Joe. It’s interesting the Bucs now have the Seahawks’ starting right guard, who will be asked to play the left side in Tampa. Wilson, however, threw the most touchdown passes per blitz.
Enjoy.
June 8th, 2016 at 10:48 am
And still according to PFF we have issues with our offensive line …
June 8th, 2016 at 11:51 am
Most qb hits for any qb in the league, yes our o line is still a work in progress. PFF is not wrong, sweezy has not been a good pass blocker.
Im a homer like any other buc fan here, but don’t twist the stats to say whatever you want it to say. Most hits on a qb is not a good quality for an o line.
June 8th, 2016 at 1:18 pm
As far as hits on the QB. There are many factors that go into that. Winston at times did not get rid of the ball quickly enough. As far as the WRs, they weren’t getting separation or getting open period at times. Yes, the OL had some holes at times but having a rookie QB is gonna lead to some hits and although by the stats it was alot of hits, in reality it didn’t look as bad as the numbers. Imagine this, Winston isn’t a rookie anymore, the OL has had time to gel, this the 2nd year in the system. Last year he threw for over 4000 yes with being hit alot. If they clean that up along with some of the other areas mentioned he should be much much more accurate, efficient, and throw more TDS or at least the TDs may be more dialed in and efficient in that regard. I firmly believe he has the tools to be even better.
June 8th, 2016 at 1:22 pm
@TruBucFan The point was sacks. Arent you doing the same thing but for another stat? QB against the blitz being sacked with the ball. Not how many hits he took after he delivered. Don’t twist another stat to make the line look worse than it is. Go Bucs
June 8th, 2016 at 1:58 pm
I agree with Trubucfan22 the oline is still work in progress. right tackle is still a need. Dotson is average to below average at best. Gos is done and is a better leader / backup than every down player. Marpet is up and coming but missed games last year. I like what I saw in Donovan Smith but the real key is how he develops this year. The oline is hardly perfect nor should it be ignored or chalked up to as a huge strength. It takes more than one season to crown a position group great.
June 8th, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Dotson is below average? WTF!
Going into 2015 he was considered among the top-tier RTs i
n the NFL and a cornerstone of the OL!
June 8th, 2016 at 2:42 pm
Dotson is horrid
June 8th, 2016 at 3:02 pm
Dotson can get the job done but I certainly wouldn’t rate him as above average.
Being considered the “best” player on the historically bad 2013 and 2014 Bucs Olines was more of a condemnation of those he was playing next to than a major complement toward Demar Dotson.
The right tackle position is definitely upgradable and I hope that either Pamphile or Benenoch can step up and earn the job sooner rather than later.
June 8th, 2016 at 3:34 pm
^^^ Not that Dotson was better than Mankins obviously – but Mankins would surely tell you that 2014 was by far the worst year of his career. I was proud of Logan for stepping up – working super hard and coming back in 2015 with a darn good year for a player with as many miles on his body as he had. Earned another pro bowl nomination and went out on top. The way Mankins took Marpet and Smith and really the whole line under his wing and taught them all he could was such a good thing for this franchise moving forward.
Dotson was the best Bucs Olineman in 2013 though. Nicks never played, Joseph got hurt early and was done, Penn totally sucked that year and Zuttah was even more average than Dotson. And Ted Larson was Ted Larson.
God that Oline was bad. And 2014 with Collins and Evan Smith and Cousins/Gilkey alongside Dotson and a still in shock Mankins was as bad or worse.
I was amazed at how well the Oline played last year – but in retrospect – they weren’t that great really – pretty average overall but above average in run blocking. Winston and Martin made the line look better than they were. But compared to what we had seen the two previous years – it sure looked a lot better. Hopefully the progress towards “GOOD” Oline continues this year.
June 8th, 2016 at 5:46 pm
This only applies if Mariota isn’t in Winston’s head from the Rose Bowl.
June 8th, 2016 at 8:16 pm
Im not saying thw buc o line was bad last season. But everytime we get this type of article Joe starts talking like the 2015 bucs oline was some dominant world class pass protectors. They did good. But they have a lot to improve upon. And im sure the second season they will improve.
If you look at just the sacks, then yeah the o line was a top 5 unit. If you account for qb hits and pressures then they look like a bottom 5 unit. They are somewhere inbetween there. Someone ranked them as the 14th best o line in the NFL. I would agree with that. They are an average group as of last season. They could easily break the top 10 if they have natural progression in their second year.
With that said. RT and Center could use upgrades. Both positions performed well last season, but we could still use some upgrades.
June 8th, 2016 at 8:20 pm
We are used to having absolutely terrible o line, so naturally we think last season’s o line was amazing. But for league rankings they are around average. Which is still awesome. But they are not as good as Joe’s posts Make them out to be.
June 8th, 2016 at 8:32 pm
Mariota sucks and we all know it. He doesnt have an NFL QB mind yet. He could improve but i doubt he becomes anything special. I see him as an RG3 or Vince Young, he could see some good success for a few seasons, but he doesnt have the tools to be a long lasting great QB.
He did have a pretty bad o line last year, which could impact his poor sack rate, but a good QB will still recognize the blitz and get the ball out early if need be. Winston did that expertly. It’s what makes him great. And it is those small things that a QB can do successfully that makes them franchise worthy. It is more than just being comfortable in a pro style offense. It is the intangibles, a QB has to do more with his mind than he does with his arm.
June 8th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Read somewhere that in the all 25 and under team chose Mariota over Jameis, smdh
June 9th, 2016 at 8:26 am
Interesting fact, if I told u before the season started, who would be better against the blitz 98% of u would of said the quick footed MM. And me as well. Most of those Hits that Winston took were in the begging of the season when the Line was still trying to gel and get to know one another. As the season went on, they certainly got better, and Jameis was not on his back as much. Winston is a smart player and will get rid of the ball when he starts to feel the heat. For a rookie QB to hAve a Stat like that. And be the 3rd best QB against the blitz in only his 1st season is very encouraging news for tye future. That’s were most qb’s begin to make mistakes. Even the best of em. The future is soon bright for this young man.