Latest ASJ Caper Unprecedented
June 10th, 2016
May have made NFL history yesterday.
The longer you live, the more whacked out things you see.
Joe thought he heard it all when it came to players doing oddball things. Of course, teammate-slugging, cabbie-punching, granny-hassling, helmet-wielding, coach-cussing, gun-totin’ Aqib Talib tested that premise almost weekly.
But never could Joe fathom a player getting run out from an OTA practice — underwear football! — until it happened right in front of him yesterday at One Buc Palace.
And no, it wasn’t some dopey undrafted rookie caught daydreaming. It was a high profile, highly drafted player being paid millions of dollars.
Yes, third string tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins added to his growing list of foolish stunts yesterday when he got run from OTA practice by Dirk Koetter for not knowing what he was doing. Odd, to say the least.
And this ejection just happened to have played out before the watchful gaze of Bucs co-chairman Bryan Glazer, who was on the sidelines during practice Thursday.
Before Joe heard Koetter’s explanation, Joe thought about the only way a player could get run from an OTA practice was if he clotheslined a quarterback or kept grabbing a teammate’s nads during a 7-on-7 drill.
So Joe starting doing some research. Joe asked a long-time Bucs beat man if he could ever recall a player being tossed out of an OTA practice. Said beat man said it was a first for him, and he has worked on the beat since the Father Dungy era.
Joe then decided to reach out to two well-respected national football writers. One works for a large national publication, and once covered the NFL for no less an authority than the New York Times. Joe asked if he could recall any player being thrown out of an OTA practice. The reporter replied, “No, that’s crazy!”
Joe then contacted a man who is an esteemed selector for the Pro Football Hall of Fame now in his fifth decade of covering the NFL. Joe asked him if he had ever heard of such a move. While the scribe was clear to point out he wasn’t sure if that hadn’t happened before, it was the first time he had ever heard of a player getting booted from an OTA practice.
(Joe is not naming the three reporters as they spoke to Joe without any reasonable expectation of being quoted on the record.)
Say what you will about ASJ, but it seems he may have made NFL history. Who knows how long ASJ will remain in the NFL, much less the Bucs? It is difficult to remember any play on the field ASJ has made. But with all the stunts he has pulled in his short NFL career, ASJ won’t soon be forgotten.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:03 am
ASJ: The BIG POOP……
“If, but, potential, …….” all words his supports have to use….
Definition of “potential” : “Potential means that right now you suck.”
June 10th, 2016 at 9:08 am
Dump ASJ and plug in that rookie Vitale. Super H back? Forget it! Just make the rook an every down TE.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:12 am
Well, he just topped his high stepping into the end zone when the Bucs were cleary blown out late in the Titans beatdown of the Bucs!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2016 at 9:16 am
Was it clear the Koetter told him to go home? Or was he simply tossing him out of the drill and ASJ reacted like the teenage boy he is?
June 10th, 2016 at 9:23 am
Arrested development. This guy has the emotional make-up of an 8 year old spoiled brat.
Last I checked if you don’t show up at work and do the job you are paid to do you get to go home for good.
Sad thing is we aren’t talking about football anymore and what is going on with this team on the practice field. It’s all about this petulant child’s misbehavior. What A Stupid Jerk!
June 10th, 2016 at 9:24 am
Hopefully, we will know exactly why he was tossed…..
As for cutting ASJ….I don’t think so…..he has 2 years left on his rookie contract and there are too many coaches who believe that they can coach him up to his star potential.
Perhaps ASJ wants to leave Tampa…..maybe he feels he isn’t wanted here and has been treated unfairly (not saying he is) just saying he might feel that.
Since he is only our “third string” TE….perhaps some more time on the bench will bring him around.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:25 am
Meaning he is tradeable…..rather than cut material.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:26 am
He is a big guy, air is thinner up there, from dunkaneer to flunkaneer.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:41 am
Tampabaybucfan
7th round or a conditional 6th rounder at best… Just like Glennon he’s simply not worth anything to another team because in Glennon’s case he will walk next year and in ASJ’s case he will likely be cut. I don’t think he can recover from this. What has he done to show other teams he can be reliable. Winning teams / coaches are not going to give away a draft pick for a guy who is fragile, mentally weak and has done ZERO on the field. 4 or 5 good plays over a 2 plus year period is hardly going to make other teams water at the mouth for this fool… He being on a cheap rookie deal is meaningless.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:44 am
I think>>>> cutdown day = dead man walking…..
Cant win with em, cant play with em I want someone who loves football.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:46 am
BigPoppaBuc…from what I gather it was off the field and to the showers.
Right Joe?
June 10th, 2016 at 9:48 am
Nothing here!
June 10th, 2016 at 9:52 am
BigHogHaynes Says:
Nothing here!
Nothing except a “real” head coach changing the “Culture” that the Incompetent one let fester at One Buc!!!!
June 10th, 2016 at 9:52 am
@tmaxcon
Think he will bring more than a 7th rounder……there are examples, I’m sure of younger players who had head problems being traded for more……many coaches/gms will think a change of team would make the difference……He has talent and has displayed it when playing.
We will see….
June 10th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Yikes! It’s even worse when one of the owners is there to witness things. Come on ASJ, at least give 100% while the guy cutting your pay check is watching. Learn from Josh F…talent only gets you so far at the NFL level.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:09 am
I don’t care what time of year it is – players get tossed from PRACTICE.
For a varity of reasons – anywhere from fighting – to bad practice habits.
Its a teaching moment – bust his arse.
Punish’em w/ tons of gassers.
Plus give him few extra hours w/ his postion coach – to run drills.
Nuff Said. Moving On
June 10th, 2016 at 10:14 am
I think its time for Jameis to “do his thing”…..somehow the optimist in me believes that this will work out and end up being a positive turning point with ASJ.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:14 am
There’s more than what’s being shared about ASJ’s being booted from practice. The truth behind it all will at sometime be revealed. He is a generic version (behavior) of Kelen Winslow Jr. I say we move on with this guy because it’s apparent he’s all about himself n does not care about the team as a whole. This is a “what have u done for me latey” league. In his case…nothing. Let’s go with Brate n b done with ASJ AKA “Another Simple Jerk”
June 10th, 2016 at 10:18 am
Trade him to bill bellicheat
June 10th, 2016 at 10:26 am
Tampa Lench Mobb N’ Full Effect.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:28 am
LUVMYBUCS
Do you really think ASJ can overcome this latest round of childish antics my friend.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:36 am
tmaxcon
I don’t have a crystal ball my friend. But this is what coaching is all about.
Koetter & Embree should be able to get this kid shaped up. IMO this was just part of process.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:42 am
I still don’t believe this is what we are being led to believe.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:48 am
This could be anything. He could have had cramps and so was not performing up to expectations.
He could have been confused due to heat exhaustion.
He could have simply studied the wrong things.
He could have just needed brushing up on a particular area and was sent in to watch film.
The truth is we DON’T KNOW. The reporters don’t know. At least not yet.
And EVEN IF he was kicked off the field…it may amount to nothing. Koetter could have said “the next person to blow his route is heading in” and ASJ happened to be that guy.
A lot of assumptions are being made without one bit of facts. That’s a Tampa Fan for you. Giving up on players and hating on them is easier than showing an ounce of loyalty.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:50 am
This is certainly not an isolated incident. It’s OTAs, this is the time when teaching happens. Koetter has shown nothing to indicate that he’s the kind of person that does this sort of thing lightly. There’s no way that this play wasn’t the culmination of other shenanigans that we didn’t see that showed Koetter that this guy was a clown and needed to get out of the way. He can spend some time on special teams for a while and see if he can work his way in to a more prominent position. Chances are he’s going to pout and do more self congratulating and continue to be a waste of potential.
June 10th, 2016 at 10:50 am
Trade him to the Browns
June 10th, 2016 at 10:55 am
Reality check: with all the love and admiration to Litch and his drafts, how is ASJ overlooked? I like Licht and last year’s draft appears excellent, although still premature to say GOAT.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:01 am
Okay…I spoke without reading the other articles that appeared below.
While I think he was attacked on Twitter and felt the need to defend himself, he should have ignored it.
But we still don’t know the truth of what happened at OTAs.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:07 am
What a lot of people don’t know is that right after he got kicked off the field and into the clubhouse, he twittered at 11 am about how marijuana should be legalized. Think his head is into what the Bucs are trying to do. ?
June 10th, 2016 at 11:09 am
Coach said this is NOTHING.
That the MEDIA is OVERBLOWING it.
So until hear or see other wise.
I’m gonna believe him.
Nuff Said – Moving On
June 10th, 2016 at 11:11 am
If I was jason licht I would tel asj to stay away from Twitter or he will stay away from the field. He’s got a seat on the bench with his name on it which is like being put in the corner for a football player. Let him learn the hard way. I dont care how much hype there is about a player and his so called potential. This team needs players who are about the game and the team and that’s it. He seems like a selfish drama queen.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:12 am
WEED should LEGALIZED.
THE NFL is currently trying to come up with a more sensible solution.
Concerning their Sticky Lime Green Problem.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:12 am
WEED should be LEGALIZED.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:15 am
Lol Luv I was thinking the same thing. If he was in WA he could self medicate LEGALLY and deal with his tension. #FREEtheTHC
June 10th, 2016 at 11:15 am
I agree WEED should be LEGALIZED….
June 10th, 2016 at 11:18 am
What happened in ota with him being kicked off the field means nothing. It’s the fact that he decided to attack fans verbally on a social media site. That shows immaturity. Not growth. Not maturity.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:18 am
DB55/Tmaxcon
Lol – Most of West Coast (Dubbs Up) Legal.
Gone are the days when you could get 10yrs for a seed.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:32 am
I would not cut him. Not now. I would, however, suspend him. I would also make it clear to him that this behavior will no longer be tolerated. If he continues to be a problem, I would “Keyshawn” him. He doesn’t deserve to be able to pick his team. The only teams I would trade him to would be Cleveland or SF. Let’s see how it likes it there.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:35 am
@BuccaneerBonzai,
You bring up some excellent points. I don’t really care so much about him being kicked off, but more so his attitude after the fact. I promise you there is no one in the organization that is happy with his Twitter behavior. Also, I do think there is something to the fact that he took off all things Bucs off his Twitter feed. That tells me he thinks whatever happened is a big deal. It also tells me he’s not thrilled about being here.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:39 am
Hawaiian Buc
No reason to suspend him. Keep his young arse in the building. Not away from team where he can be left to his own devices. Once again this is a teaching momenet.
Bust a$$ on that practice field.
Grind him out in that heat.
That’s how coaches get there point across.
That’s how U humble a young buc.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:42 am
Bust his a$$ on that practice field.
Grind him out in that heat.
That’s how coaches get their point across.
That’s how U humble a young buc.
June 10th, 2016 at 11:46 am
My crystal ball is showing me ASJ on a 4 game suspension in the near future. #DontInhale
June 10th, 2016 at 11:53 am
@LUVMYBUCS,
Normally I would agree, but this isn’t a normal situation. He MUST be put in timeout, if for nothing else for his treatment of an already dwindling fan base. He obviously didn’t learn his lesson from getting kicked off the field, because he was still probably dripping from the shower when he was tweeting at fans. The one way that tends to work is to affect their wallet. If that doesn’t work, then it’s probably hopeless. But this isn’t high school, these guys don’t respond to running laps. Think about it, if you messed up at work and your boss gave you extra work, would that be an effective punishment? It would probably make you more upset, and less likely to give maximum effort. Now if he cut your pay, I guarantee you would feel differently. These guys are no different. It’s a job, no matter how much the fans want to believe otherwise.
June 10th, 2016 at 12:15 pm
June 10th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
*This should serve as a wake up call.
Side Bar: Whenever I was in the wrong – and reprimand.
I took it on the chin – and moved on.
‘That which does not kill me only makes me stronger’
June 10th, 2016 at 12:35 pm
We’ll never know what really motivated the booting, but there’s a small chance this was an overreaction from a rookie HC. I mean, if ASJ is consistently lining up wrong and not knowing his assignments, it’s understandable. But lining up wrong one time shouldn’t get a guy booted. Like I said, we’ll probably never know what caused him to get kicked out.
ASJ needs to close his twitter account and focus on himself instead of engaging with trolls and haters, or spouting off with phony self-motivational nonsense or trash talk. These are all distractions.
June 10th, 2016 at 12:47 pm
Always scared if we cut him or trade him for peanuts, ASJ will become a really good TE for someone else, that’s the “Buccaneers Way”, play out this year, he flops move on, but if he shows any signs of improvement then his contract year next year, might as well enjoy the spoils of a motivated player
June 10th, 2016 at 12:53 pm
@LUVMYBUCS,
These gassers you’ve seen aren’t usually for punishment. At the professional level, there is only so much you can do to these guys. Typically punishment is something like pushups, but I have never heard of a NFL player having to stay after practice and run gassers as punishment (and I’ve been to my fair share of practices as well).
These guys have all gone their separate ways. They don’t hang around each other when OTA’s are over. Perhaps a guy like Jameis is in his ear, but there comes a point when even that isn’t going to be effective. I believe he’s trying to get himself released so he can join another team. I just wouldn’t make it that easy and give him what he wants. However, he has to be punished in a way that matters – his wallet. He’s 23, I highly doubt he’s got millions in the bank, so that will hurt him.
June 10th, 2016 at 1:55 pm
Hawaiian Buc
I hear U
I did respond – but my post are not show up.
June 10th, 2016 at 2:17 pm
my post are not showing up.
June 10th, 2016 at 2:27 pm
All I keep hearing from Bucs fans over the past few years is how the coaching staff was not coaching up the players.
Well?
June 10th, 2016 at 2:50 pm
HB…I’ve been thinking that all morning. ASJ is trying to get kicked off the team on purpose.
June 10th, 2016 at 3:21 pm
This is the new ALL-WORLD CLASS first real test COACH K you did your thing, now don’t screw it up by following the likes of Tmaxcon or The BucRealist, you’ve fired the warning-shot, let him know you won’t miss the next time! Your in control now Coach K, it’s your BALLS not LOVIE BALLS that they will come for like a pack of African wild dogs! But don’t worry it’s all LOVIE’S fault!
June 10th, 2016 at 3:33 pm
@BigHogHeinous
You better hurry up, The Pirate ship is leaving!!! You might want to hop aboard before you watch it disappear into the horizon!! They cut the anchor that was coach my scheme!!! And now its full steam ahead!!! If you jump on now and swab the deck and earn your keep, we might let you stay as a CabinBoy!!!! (that was a funny movie by the way)!!!!
We all see it turning!!! I am so proud to be a Bucs fan right now!!!! Go Bucs!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2016 at 3:50 pm
BigHogHaynes
you need to prepare for you next crusade… http://www.fightingillini.com
Lovie will fail at IL just as horribly as he did in Tampa so you might as well start your crusade there. move on from Buc fan sites since you are only a fan of Black head coaches and not the tampa bay bucs team. don’t worry us lily white fans won’t miss you.
June 10th, 2016 at 4:03 pm
All I have heard is how this guy is and it’s not his fault he got hurt…He is Lazy and a Premadona ….
Trade him or just cut him….Brate is the Man
June 10th, 2016 at 5:05 pm
@Tmaxcon
He might wanna to hurry to check it out!! They must know that coach my scheme is only going to be there for a short time, or they would change their name to something more appropriate!!!!!
such as
The passive lllini!!! or my favorite
The Fighting Incompetent!!!!!
June 10th, 2016 at 5:27 pm
Tmaxcon that Lilly white statement I made was made in reference to the many Buc fans who hated on Lovie just because he was black, at the time I made that statement I didn’t know you were a part of that group, but it doesn’t effect me no one can be a bigger Buc fan than I, no one has been a BUC fan longer than I. The Buc Realist the ship may be about to sail,but the tide of life has already come in, I no longer have to play the part of “Cabin Boy”, for you see, you didn’t teach me but you screwed up and let me learn how to steer my own ship, no more swabbing the deck for me, I just hired a couple of deck swabbers, you would be surprised who they are….I’m gonna stop before I cross my own moral lines, ummm Buc1987 is Cabin Boy a racially motovatied phrase? I smell you Realist, and it stinks like a 2 week old pile of garbage !!
June 10th, 2016 at 5:42 pm
Actually BigHogHaynes, your reference was to the Lily white coaching staff. Which makes no sense because its a fairly mixed staff. You make racist comments here all the time, like the one above. We just ignore most of them. We get it, you hate white people. Thats ok, we’ll continue to ignore you most of the time.
June 10th, 2016 at 6:44 pm
Dreambig …correct he’s the MOST racist fan on the site….
June 10th, 2016 at 7:10 pm
Birds of a feather stick together, realist and Tmaxcon can but I can’t but il give 1987 credit he did tell me to ignore their a$$es!
June 10th, 2016 at 7:25 pm
@ Dreambig: fairly mixed? Can you please give the number of blacks on staff in comparison to the number whites on staff? Tmaxcon BucRealist Buc1987 can anyone give a quick answer please? Knowledge is power!
June 10th, 2016 at 7:47 pm
Not wanting to wait on an answer, I did some research on my own and to my surprise we do have a diverse staff, and I must say very diverse staff with a lot of experience, Dreambig I stand corrected.
June 10th, 2016 at 8:24 pm
Hmm, and I thought everyone hated Lovie because he sucked. Turns out it was because he was black. Guess being a horrible coach had nothing to do with it.
June 10th, 2016 at 8:37 pm
Bighog
I don’t see color… I could care less what color they are or what the number black / white. All that matters is are they qualified, can they earn earn the players respect, and do they hate losing. That’s all that matters.
June 10th, 2016 at 9:03 pm
Game time: Robertg you better get your head out your ass, that statement couldn’t be father from the truth for some people!!
June 11th, 2016 at 12:46 am
Another bust pick by garbage ass ac/dc lovin Jason Licht
June 11th, 2016 at 1:55 am
Buc 1987; no such thing as MOST racist, if your it, your it!!
June 11th, 2016 at 9:36 am
What people Hog? Seems to me you’re the only one bothered by skin color. I think you’re it buddy.
June 11th, 2016 at 10:38 am
I’d say coach just sent Softagain Jenkins a strong message that he is in danger if losing his job. Message is you had better show up to camp and know your Playbook and do a better job of doing your job or I’ll find someone else out here who will. I think he’s already in koetters dog house for turning a 4 week injury into an 8 week injury last year. I remember him saying about week 8 he didn’t think it would be fair to his teammates to come back at less than 100%..while V Jax is out there minus a step and on a bad knee and basically week 8 NFL nobody is 100%. Given his history I gave up on him right there. That Brate kid sure plays hard.
June 11th, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Did you see how the rest of the players stared after him as he left the field. Koetter set an example by sending him into the locker room.
ASJ may not have learned much, but his teammates did.
June 11th, 2016 at 3:02 pm
@BigHogHaynes
Is it racist to recognize facts?
It may not be politically correct, but if you compare the percentages of players by race, and the percentage they get into trouble, the hard truth is that the majority are African-American.
It’s not racist to acknowledge that. How else will those issues be addressed? Ignore the problems and their causes so that they get worse?
The term “racist” is thrown around a lot, even when it does not apply.
June 11th, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Bonzai: the answer is no it is not racist, doing dumb stuff effects us all across all racial lines. But let me be clear I don’t equate ASJ troubles with being shot in the leg or beating up your female partner.
June 11th, 2016 at 4:24 pm
@Robertg: you keep spinning things around and you’ll get dizzy!
June 11th, 2016 at 5:32 pm
You never really know how nutty a butt job can be… It’s hard to rate the level of nuttiness