Jameis Winston’s Stats “Huge”
June 13th, 2016
Former NFL QB Brady Quinn lauds America.
Yes, we all know that America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had a fine rookie season.
In fact, Jameis was one of the few things former Bucs coach Lovie Smith got right (the other two were the hirings of AC/DC-loving Jason Licht and Dirk Koetter).
Recently, Joe brought word how CBS Sports and SiriusXM NFL Radio’s Pat Kirwan did some digging and determined only two quarterbacks were better protecting themselves against the blitz than Jameis, and those were two veterans Eli Manning and vagabond Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Co-hosting “Movin’ the Chains” last week with Kirwan, Brady Quinn, who was too cut for Chucky, sort of dismissed Kirwan’s findings on Manning and Fitzpatrick, saying their respective offenses are designed to quickly get rid of the ball before a blitz blows up the quarterback. Quinn noted the two QBs also have the benefit of many years of NFL experience reading defensive packages, which gives them an advantage.
But when Kirwan mentioned Jameis as being the third-least sacked quarterback against the blitz, Quinn raved about Jameis and said this underscores why Team Glazer did what it in January.
Pat Kirwan: The next guy, and I want your reaction the second I say it. One sack every 22 times they send pressure: The name? Jameis Winston.
Brady Quinn: I mean, that is huge, right? You are talking about a guy that early on in his career understands how to get the football out of his hands. Maybe that stat – obviously, not alone – maybe that goes into consideration when you want to make some changes on a staff and you are looking at yourself and saying, “Look at what this young man has accomplished his rookie season. We can’t allow Dirk Koetter to go somewhere. We can’t allow him to go be the head coach somewhere else because we want to continue this progression. We really like what the analytics and the statistics are showing us.” That could be a huge part of [the decision to run Lovie Smith and promote Koetter].
Precisely. Jameis may be the biggest investment this team has made since Lee Roy Selmon, and Joe is not being facetious. A quarterback drafted No. 1 overall in the 21st century is a major, major investment, much more so than when Vinny Testaverde was drafted nearly 30 years ago.
There’s no question Team Glazer didn’t want to screw up what looked to be a perfect football marriage between Jameis and Koetter. This nonsense pushed to the talking heads at the four-letter that there was a palace coup by Koetter or Licht is such garbage. The evidence of why Team Glazer did what it did in January is clear for everyone to see — provided they want to see.
June 13th, 2016 at 5:59 am
Jameis certainly deserves the lion’s share of credit for only being sacked once in every 22 he’s pressured. But I’d think there are other factors at play that contribute significantly to that stat. OLine’s capability to pick up and adjust to the blitz for one? Same for the RBs in picking up blitzers? I’d also think that play design (providing viable dump-off options?) would also play into that stat, as well as using TEs as stay-at-home blockers to protect Jameis. It took a lots of folks, Coach Koetter as much as anyone, to keep those sacks down. Since the pieces are largely the same this year, I’d expect 2016 stats to be just as good if not better.
June 13th, 2016 at 7:07 am
It’s mostly on the QB, Doug Williams was sacked only 7 times in 1979 in 16 games. His backup (Mike Rae) was sacked 5 times in garbage duty in only 5 games. Doug was never sacked more than 23 times in a season, he was sacked 65 times in 5 seasons with the Bucs. When it came time for Doug to get a new contract, Hugh Culverhouse was giving credit to the O-Line for Doug lack of sacks. Finally, he just let Doug walk and for the next 5 seasons, the Bucs won 16 games and gave up 233 sacks. Then it was 15 consecutive years with a losing record. All of this happen because Hugh Culverhouse refused to pay his franchise QB. Who had taken them to the playoffs in 3 of the 5 seasons that he was here. He gave credit to everyone except his QB and it cost him big time.
June 13th, 2016 at 7:59 am
LakeLand Buc… Doug Williams too was exciting to watch, Jameis brings that edge of your seat thrill also. Go Bucs!!
June 13th, 2016 at 8:24 am
The rookie salary cap mitigates some of that investment so teams are not crushed if they select a bust.
June 13th, 2016 at 8:33 am
“The evidence of why Team Glazer did what it did in January is clear for everyone to see — provided they want to see.”
Correct Joe now all we need in here is tmaxcon and Realist to see it too…
Faceitious. 🙂
June 13th, 2016 at 8:38 am
LakeLandBuc ….I’d like to argue that Culverhose refused to pay not just Doug, but anyone for that matter. The way I used to describe Hugh was like this. He’d sign one or 2 big names to get the fans into an off-season frenzy, but he never truly cared whether they won or lost. He cared about money too much. Clueless youngsters like me would see a name like Alvin Harper, get all excited and buy tickets.
June 13th, 2016 at 8:39 am
Damn I meant to add I intentionally spell his name Culver-hose, cause that’s what I used to call him.
June 13th, 2016 at 8:48 am
How effective were the Bucs when they blitzed? Why would they or any team feel the need to do so? Why has everyone in the league been looking to add to their passs rush talent?
One other possibility to add to the excellent list from Defense Rules above:
Suppose the defensive line of our opponents is not getting any pressure with their standard rush. So they decide to add a blitzer to try to get pressure, which means they have one less defender on a pass. The weakness of the Bucs opponents defensively may have contributed to their need to bolster their ineffective pass rush with blitzers, and therefore less defenders against the checkdowns and passing options.
tickrdr
June 13th, 2016 at 10:13 am
LOVIE left a strong foundation! I have always admitted that he had no success here, but he did leave a foundation for Coach K to continue to build & the BACK/STABBER to continue to build. I know I have those that don’t agree, but without this foundation, wouldn’t we be in rebuilding mode?
June 13th, 2016 at 10:14 am
I will boldly predict that Jameis Winston will
Win the Super Bowl
Win MVP
Break record for TD passes & completion percentage.
Invent a cure for cancer.
Rid the planet of ISIS
Visit Mars during Bye Week
OMG Joe’s fanboy crush on Jaboo is starting to wear off on me.
I also expect improvement in his performance. I would be happy to see the TD #’s and completion percentage increase. Healthy WR’s and ones that dont drop the balls constantly and a good running game is important. But it comes down to the guys in the trenches. The Bucs Oline was a pleasant surprise last season. I hope it continues.
It is hard not to get pumped up for this season. I expect the defense to make a rapid improvement. Stopping the slant pass would be a nice start.
The Bucs are way under the radar…….would be nice if the Bucs were the Cinderella team that came out of nowhere and shocked the league.
Its the off-season, all teams are 0-0. We can dream….at least until the reality of October & November set in.
June 13th, 2016 at 10:44 am
Like I said yesterday, Lovie was not hired to start this massive rebuilding project. He was brought in to use his nine year experience to take a team with some decent talent and a pretty good defense and was expected to compete with that core group while drafting some offense and signing whatever players Lovie felt necessary. That whole offseason, all we heard was how we were ready to compete and every move Lovie made was justified for being “4-12”. And then a few months later Lovie ended up making the team pretty weak, cutting key players and replacing them with lesser talent, if at all. And suddenly they were selling us that the team was about to turn the corner and how we need patience. OHKAY…
And that was what lead to Lovie’s firing. Understanding that Lovie was hired to compete and not enter total rebuild mode, AGAIN, it shows just how little room for error Lovie had going into 2015.
June 13th, 2016 at 10:49 am
These guys don’t know squat. Donovan Smith and the OL kept the sack numbers down, right? Tell em Joe.
June 13th, 2016 at 10:55 am
Largo….and “Tennessee Ready” certainly didn’t help.
Much of what Lovie said at the podium ever transpired onto the field.
Poor Illini they have no idea what they’ve gotten themselves into.
June 13th, 2016 at 11:57 am
Quinn has said nothing but good things about JW everytime he opens his mouth. And he’s right. Jameis, like all great QB’s avoids sacks whenever possible. Watching the Colt game on Redzone yesterday you saw proof of that on quite a few occasions. Whether sliding in the pocket or getting out and making something out of nothing, the kid has the knack. With the time he’ll spend this year studying the defensive schemes more than his own playbook, he’ll only get better.
June 13th, 2016 at 12:24 pm
Gilhealy Says:
June 13th, 2016 at 11:57 am
….. Jameis, like all great QB’s avoids sacks whenever possible. Watching the Colt game on Redzone yesterday you saw proof of that on quite a few occasions……
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I am quite surprised that you would pick the Colts game to make your point, because Jameis was sacked FIVE times that game. The Bucs scored only 12 points total for that game, and lost 25-12, and went scoreless in the 2nd half.
In the 2nd half, JW3 was 11 of 25 for 115 yds, 0TDs and 1 INT.
tickrdr
June 13th, 2016 at 12:41 pm
You’re correct tickrdr, but it could’ve been a lot more. They were all over him . But he also made a couple of nice moves to avoid a sack. Also, a couple of key drops in that game hurt.
June 13th, 2016 at 3:09 pm
@Gilhealy:
Thank you for your thoughtful response! I am sure you know that I am the last remaining poster on JBF that has not yet voted for Jameis Winston’s enshrinement in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
tickrdr
June 13th, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Gilhealy …tickrdr doesn’t count drops.
June 13th, 2016 at 10:26 pm
The reason Love was dismissed was simple.
The defense he designed, hand picked the players to play it and called the plays for was abysmal.
Stephen Smith, who sees racism everywhere he looks with his jaundiced eyes, can spout all of that nonsense he wants, but Smith, who was supposed to be a defensive coach, was a failure bringing a good defense to Tampa.
June 13th, 2016 at 10:29 pm
Lovie took the college job for the same reason he took the Tampa job, to get his incompetent son a job.