Lame Duck Backup
May 6th, 2016
Jason Licht speaks.
Man, just a few weeks ago, all sorts of trade chatter claimed the Bucs actually could get something for backup quarterback Mike Glennon.
With solid teams starving for a quarterback, any quarterback, from the Broncos to the Jets to others, it seemed Glennon was surely on his way out. Given the fact Licht admitted recently he sought ammo in order to trade up to get kicker Roberto Aguayo, it seemed Glennon should have been as good as gone.
And he may well be. After the 2016 season.
Appearing on “The Blitz” earlier this week, co-hosted by Bruce Murray and Phil Savage, Licht confessed trade talks for Glennon are dead. He laments Glennon will likely only be with the Bucs for months.
“I think when the draft comes, teams started focusing on what they could get in the draft so when that third day [of the draft] came and I did not receive any calls, teams were satisfied, I think, and excited about getting their shiny new toy,” Licht said. “To be honest with you, it was not a consideration at that point to trade [Glennon] away. I know we run the risk of just having him for one more year. But one year in the NFL seems a lifetime.
“For us to know that we have a very good backup if not a very capable starter sitting behind Jameis, allows us to sleep a lot better at night knowing we have that. You really cannot put a price tag on that.”
For Joe, this is more of an outrage than Licht trading up for a kicker. People are screaming Licht could have drafted an every-down starter on defense with that pick. True.
Well, the same could be said about Glennon. Instead of an every-down starter, you have a guy you hope never steps on the field. At least with Roberto Aguayo, he will score points and he may be a weapon.
Let Joe know what kind of a weapon gets blisters on his rear end from the blazing hot aluminium bench at the Den of Depression.
If Joe is going to nitpick Licht, it is on this, not that he drafted a kicker. Choosing a benchwarmer over a potential starter for a defense that needs help, or another weapon for America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is a true insult, not drafting a kicker.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:11 am
Train the giraffe’s legs to kick field goals. That would’ve solved everything.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:23 am
You still butt hurt Joe, that they didn’t follow your plan to dump Mr. Glennon. Let it go brother. The powers that be in the Buccanners organization are doing what they feel is the best for our team. Would a, could a, but didn’t trade him. Time to be glad we have a capable experienced backup QB just in case something should happen to Mr. Winston. Let it go Joe. You will feel better.
Go Bucs!
May 6th, 2016 at 7:29 am
Did anyone think maybe there is not a lot of interest in Glennon? Maybe teams said they would rather pick “their guy” I know Houston singed a guy with only a couple starts, but he played last year. Glennon did not start last year. He might end up a Chase Daniel and get a good deal
May 6th, 2016 at 7:30 am
Told you Glennon is just not that good. If he was, he’d be gone. If a team really wanted him they would’ve paid whatever price to get him. Maybe teams offered the Bucs a 4th rounder or higher draft pick. But really, who cares. If he starts for this team the season is shot. I wish him the best of luck when he moves on but Glennon, on his best day, is average!
May 6th, 2016 at 7:34 am
But Joe believes that if Jameis goes down for a small stretch (2 or 3) games its better to just lose so we improve our draft position. So there is no reason to have a capable back up on the roster.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:37 am
Perhaps Jason Licht is scheming for next years supplemental pics…..we flushed our Lovie reserves prior to the draft, this team is very young, perhaps we are positioning to have less free agent signings than losses …we are pre positioning to have a young veteran team for the beginning of our long term run of a playoff quality team
May 6th, 2016 at 7:44 am
So I guess joe doesn’t believe in insurance.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:53 am
I think Joe believes in getting back some value for Mike. It’s still possible if another NFL quarterback gets hurt and the need for a QB rises again during the NFL season.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:55 am
BAck up QB isn’t important?
Tell that to the 72 Dolphins.
May 6th, 2016 at 7:56 am
Imagine this. It’s game 10 and we are 6-4 but #3 sprains his ankle. #8 comes in and wins 2 of the next 4 thanks in part to a 55 yard winning FG from Aguayo.
#3 returns we win the final two to reach the playoffs with 10 wins.
I want to read the Glennon and Aguayo hate then.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:03 am
Maybe Licht and Koetter aren’t completely sold on Jaboo and want Glennon around just in case. Winston wouldn’t be the first QB to flop after the first year.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:05 am
St Pete, Glennon’s winning percentage as a starter is far less than 500 so I doubt we would go 2-2. So many fans act like we have Steve Young onto bench. He is just your run of the mill backup QB. Obviously there was no real interest from other teams and that is why he is still here.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:06 am
It takes two to tango Joe
May 6th, 2016 at 8:10 am
I think it’s time you faced the fact that Glennon is just not that coveted in NFL circles. We spent a 3rd round pick for his skinny ass so long ago. Probably the best Licht could have gotten for him this year was a 6th or 7th rounder. You don’t get any great defensive starter in those draft spots.
He’s more valuable to us riding the bench and being ready in case the unthinkable happens to Jameis.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:11 am
Joe your position here is just not realistic. You have to have someone interested enough to trade with. Only 6% of 4th round draft picks become starters, therefore for a trade to make sense, the Bucs needed a third rounder or better. Who in their right mind would give that up for a guy who couldn’t beat out McClown? Maybe if a QB gets hurt before the season starts the market will change, but for now he has more value to us as a backup QB then he has for someone else. I know if I was a fan of another team and their GM gave up a third or better for Glennon, I would be a little pissed. If you can’t trade him for a starter then why trade him at all?
May 6th, 2016 at 8:25 am
Yea – WTF Jason Licht??? You could have had a sure fire “every-down starter” with that 5th round pick you should have traded MG8 for…
Now all you have is an inexpensive, top notch back-up QB who might just blow next year’s draft positioning by winning “meaningless games”.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:26 am
People, Joe’s hatred of MG8 goes back to the bromance he had for the mental case known as Josh Freeman. Then for whatever reason Joe is still probably a bit butt hurt about the Bucs passing on Johnny football. Notice that both Qb’s are now out of the league. That should tell you all you need to know about how smart a football guy Joe is.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:47 am
The problem for me with the Glennon situation is that we carried Ryan Griffin on the active roster all last year and he never made the gameday roster…..and, I suspect we will do the same this year so we had better secure a longer term contract or we will lose him also.
With injuries, that roster spot could be an extra WR/RB or developmental Oline or Dline player.
It is still possible we get a trade for a pick or player for Glennon if one of the teams has an injury.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:54 am
Don’t hate Glennon at all, but nice try.
But DO hate how the Bucs passed on a chance of adding a defensive starter by not trading him. No one can convince Joe a guy who doesn’t play is more valuable to a team winning than a guy who starts, sorry.
Defensive starter > backup quarterback every day all day.
May 6th, 2016 at 8:57 am
The way I see it is if Belicheat uses good draft picks to pick him a backup and/or future starter when they have Brady, I can handle this. If its good enough the dynasty, its good enough for me.
May 6th, 2016 at 9:07 am
“Defensive starter > backup quarterback every day all day.”
True! However, there’s zero guarantee that a draft pick=starter. So if you swing and miss, and then end up needing MG8’s services…
There are so many ways you can slice and dice this scenario. I think at this point, we should come to the realization that Glennon is your back-up and guess what, that ain’t so bad!
May 6th, 2016 at 9:10 am
Still putting out that Glennon garbage? I read this site everyday and it’s the only thing that makes me cringe. I mean, the value of a strong backup QB is huge in this league. Some nobody defensive tackle vs a guy who can singlehandedly win you football games? Come on? Plus Glennon is smart and good for Jaboo’s development. Senario, it’s week 16 and we are 8-6 making a strong run at the playoffs. Are we really rolling out Ryan Griffin? “I think not” – Jason Licht
May 6th, 2016 at 9:11 am
Joe, I think everyone would agree with you to make the trade if you could have landed a defensive starter. Unfortuneatly that scenario did not exist, so you can’t really fault Licht for that.
May 6th, 2016 at 9:12 am
Mikey’s back, he wandered off a spell into the savannah munching leaves in the really tall trees. It’s a giraffes life.
May 6th, 2016 at 9:46 am
Hey Joe…..and everybody’s a karate expert when they walk into a spider web too!
May 6th, 2016 at 9:50 am
Mike Jenkins > Glennon ?
Hey Jude > Glennon?
Chris Conte > Glennon?
Tim Jennings > Glennon?
Dontae Dye > Glennon?
How soon we forget Pittsburgh 2014 come from behind win. If I recall correctly Glennon had to step in when mcclown got hurt. Easily one of the best wins in recent history.
When you say Glennon’s name PUT SOME RESPECK ON IT!
May 6th, 2016 at 9:59 am
TDTB Let’s play your stupid game. People are already getting the excuses ready including Joe. Glennon was 5-13. Loser. Winston the back door Pro Bowler was 6-10. Loser. Not that far off. Remember that is how everyone wants to play the game. Winston will be what his record say he is. So you better hope they win a lot of games or guess what. He will continue to be a loser.
May 6th, 2016 at 10:00 am
When Griffin out plays Glennon this pre season and 8 is released the mob will be humbled to the point of silence. Griffin has more upside than 8. It’s not about hating Glennon it’s what is best for the team. Glennon will be a nice backup for 10 years. He will never lead a team though. I guess all the gm’s and coaches on qb needy teams didn’t buy into the excuses and the fact poor Mikey was treated unfairly. Reality check Glennon fan boys 8 is just not that good. It was a big mistake for licht not to get anything for him though. Licht overplayed his hand and got beat.
May 6th, 2016 at 10:08 am
Whatever!
May 6th, 2016 at 10:19 am
Lovie lost us two seasons… Glennon may well have been starter material but never got a chance… Are any of us really that bummed out? $#it we got jameis
This year under a professionally run staff we may to see exactly what we have
Also my girl finally agreed to wear bucs apparel over her jets crap thanks to beyonce weirdly enough lol go BUCS
May 6th, 2016 at 10:21 am
DB55 you funny as hell too
Respeck to you
May 6th, 2016 at 10:26 am
The market for Gallopin’ Glennon was similar to that of a “sweet” collection of baseball cards. Declared to be worth X….yet in actuallity there never is or was a potential buyer.
May 6th, 2016 at 10:30 am
I guess Jameis must not be very good. They were so affraid to lose Koetter because it would totally screw Jameis up they hired him as head coach. So keeping the same coach, same system and QB coach does matter? Jameis would have been that Fkd up?
May 6th, 2016 at 10:37 am
May as well look on the bright side at this point…god forbid we start fast and Jameis goes down for 4-5 games mid-season…Glennon could keep us in contention.
May 6th, 2016 at 10:39 am
@JOE…. Your opinion of the current situation is foolhardy at best…. This team is looking to win this year… JW is not the only thing this team needs to insure it can overcome and win in any situation…. The way your talking about MG almost makes me feel like seeing JW go down for a game or two just to have MG step in and NOT LOSE us a game…
You need to understand that teams lose players every year based on contracts… If he was a nobody in terms of potential other teams needs… No one would care that he is still here… But because suddenly you can put a “value” on him based on other teams needs… Suddenly his value based on our teams needs mean nothing!!!!!!!!!!!
In short, why trade a guy that you yourself admit would be needed on a team that was ready to compete for a Title??? How gives a flip if he walks next year… we were not gonna add anyone that was gonna make the POTENTIAL impact IF THEY played…
The Brass Knew we had our team together and adding one more guy just cause for MG was not worth it… Use your brain donkey!!!!!!!!!!!
May 6th, 2016 at 10:48 am
Hey it is not to late to get your very own Mike Glennon Yard statue there is one left, Lovie bought all the rest..
May 6th, 2016 at 11:11 am
It’s all shoulda coulda. Licht should have traded him last year when the phones were ringing. Without Glennon playing any football ppl forgot about him. As the draft got closer teams were looking for younger and more talented QBs. Why trade for Glennon when you can have Hacklengburg, Brissett, and Kessler. Same talent only 3 years younger. Probably didn’t spell their names right, but you get the point.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:12 am
Glad we have a competent GM and not a foolish imbecile who complains about not having depth while giving our best depth away for practically nothing. I wish Glennon the best of luck on his future, he deserves to start but a part of me wants Glennon to stay just to irritate the Joes for another couple years.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:13 am
@tmax- If Griffin beats out Glennon then that is what is best for the team and yes, there should be no argument whatsoever. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have this type of conversation going into camp. May the best man win.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:22 am
looks like there’s no market for the guy.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:24 am
When we talk about getting rid of a capable backup let’s remember as was said earlier the ’72 Dolphins. But let’s also remember the ’99 Bucs who went 3 deep with QB’s. Also our Super Bowl Team that had to use their backup QB against Pittsburgh to make it to the Super Bowl.
You need a good backup, not just starters. You need depth. This is not Madden Football to just plug and play. Or Fantasy football, this is for real. Let’s get over this issue of trading good players for draft picks of tomorrow.
Also I am so tired of hearing about Aguayo pick. Ask the ’98 Vikings about a good kicker. How about the Raiders since they haven’t had to worry about kicking for almost 10 or more years with Sebass. Philly hasn’t been the same since Aekers left. The Saints would have been in the playoffs with a consistant kicker. How much did the Colts and Patriots pay for Vinateri to get their Super Bowls. Aguayo is a model player and person and he will prove to be a great pick up. Barth was not going to get us there, just move on about that move.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:41 am
I get a kick out of all those who have joked about Glennon’s “giraffe” body. From what I can see…..he is a NFL player & one who took quite a beating without being injured.
He is, and has been, a class act…..not a whining crybaby like Freeman. I sometimes wonder what sort of frame some of these posters have…..
Poking fun at our players is classless and immature.
Mike Glennon could probably whip several of you at the same time.
Is he the second coming to Joe Montana….no….but he is one of the very few that made it to the NFL. That deserves some respect.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:46 am
Bravo TBBF! Bravo!
I will never understand the constant degradation of the players who play for the team that we are “fans” of.
May 6th, 2016 at 11:50 am
Glennon doesn’t have a fully grown giraffe body. He has the body of a baby giraffe on ice skates. AND he still made the NFL ! The guy must be great, just very limited by his figure
May 6th, 2016 at 11:56 am
Two years ago it was assurances Brett Smith was the second best QB on the Bucs roster and Glennon would get beaten out in camp and let go. Now it’s yet another QB with no NFL starts let alone wins (Ryan Griffin) that these JBF fortune tellers say is the second best QB on the team and will beat out and cause Mike’s release. Three different HC’s and two different GM’a and yet Gleenon is still considered worthy of being on the roster, this must give the poor Glennon haters ulcers? I’ll keep saying it, we should be thankful we still have Mike as insurance at the (per Joe) most important position in football. I’m sure the Cowboys wish they had a good QB on the roster after Romo got hurt not once but twice last year. Injuries happen folks, even to QB’s.
May 6th, 2016 at 12:02 pm
I will never understand the constant degradation of the players who play for the team that we are “fans” of.
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Its pretty simple really. Its a combination of people who loved Freeman and/or hated Schiano, who want to take out their rage on Glennon but try to validate the hate with ridiculous statements such as “he went out of bounds 1 yard short of a 1st down.” LMAO, I still get a kick out of the stupidity everytime I hear it.
May 6th, 2016 at 1:04 pm
He did suck at scrambling, there’s no denying that. It was painful to watch. That being said, he does have some skills and if given some real playing time, could probably turn into a decent starting QB.
Back to Joe’s gripe w/ Licht re: trading Glennon, have we heard of any actual deal that was ever offered for him? I don’t think we have, it’s all been speculation. Maybe there never was a market for him, or maybe it was never higher than a 6th round pick.
May 6th, 2016 at 1:35 pm
Couch Fan Says:
May 6th, 2016 at 12:02 pm
I will never understand the constant degradation of the players who play for the team that we are “fans” of.
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Its pretty simple really. Its a combination of people who loved Freeman and/or hated Schiano, who want to take out their rage on Glennon but try to validate the hate with ridiculous statements such as “he went out of bounds 1 yard short of a 1st down.” LMAO, I still get a kick out of the stupidity everytime I hear it.
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My favorite are those who continue to say that “he couldn’t even beat out McCown”. To my knowledge, McCown is the only player I’ve ever seen who fumbled the ball and then threw an interception on the same play.
tickrdr
May 6th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
Hear, hear TBBF
I can excuse Joe making outlandishly moronic remarks as that’s just how he keeps interest in the site, but some of the other cretins on here are simply pathetic
May 6th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
^^Exactly. Another example of a ridiculous statement.
May 6th, 2016 at 2:31 pm
I would love to see some of the keyboard warriors call Glennon a giraffe to his face.
On point, nobody has any clue what, if any, picks were offered for Glennon. Very unlikely to have been anything more than a 4th or 5th, in which case you probably have another bench warmer.
May 6th, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Joe, your bona fides as a player personnel guy ain’t the best. Do I need to say Johnny Rehab err Football? Besides Manziel there have been others that you had your regularly scheduled man crushes on that have tanked. You probably need to begin staying away from player personnel.
May 6th, 2016 at 9:17 pm
Joe – guess you are not a big fan of savings accounts either