Jay Hayes Talks Noah Spence
May 13th, 2016
Jay Hayes has a long history with the Bucs’ rookie DE.
It’s now obvious to Joe that if new Bucs defensive line coach Jay Hayes didn’t think much of rookie defensive end Noah Spence, then the Bucs wouldn’t have drafted him.
Hayes worked out defensive linemen at the NFL Scouting Combine for all the world to see on NFL Network. Hayes also personally worked out Spence in a private meeting. And of course, Hayes worked out Spence at his pro day, as well.
It could easily be argued Hayes, now Spence’s position coach, knows Spence better than anyone with the Bucs with the possible exception of AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht.
Spence has been on Hayes’ radar for years.
“I’ve seen Noah, really since he was at Ohio State and I was in Cincinnati,” Hayes said. “The first time I got exposure to him, I was coaching at the Bengals and I watched the spring game at Ohio State. They played in Paul Brown Stadium [in Cincinnati] and Noah had like, four sacks in the spring game, so that was my first exposure to him.
“He is a guy that can put pressure on the passer. He’s basically a guy that’s a specialist and that’s kind of where we saw him.”
Again, Joe is willing to lay cash if Hayes didn’t want Spence, then thee Bucs never would have drafted him, given how much time Hayes has spent with Spence.
Hayes, other than the aforementioned comment, was somewhat tight-lipped about Spence yesterday. Joe is guessing that it’s just a veteran NFL coach (the past 13 years with the Bengals) not wanting to anoint a rookie second-round draft pick before he has even worn shoulder pads as an NFL employee.
What is interesting took place a little later Thursday when Bucs linebackers coach Mark Duffner chatted with the Tampa Bay pen and mic club. Licht said Spence “is a defensive end all the way.” Hayes referred to Spence as a “specialist.”
But when Duffner was asked if the draft experts were wrong about Spence when many suggested he could play outside linebacker, Duffner did not rule out using Spence as an outside linebacker in certain packages.
Somewhere amid the Illinois cornfields, Coach My Scheme is shaking uncontrollably at the thought of using a defender in a different way in certain situations.
May 13th, 2016 at 9:24 am
Remember LVD in Schiano’s Defense anyone???
Yeah I thought so. Look for more of That this yr.
So Excited
May 13th, 2016 at 9:24 am
I don’t understand the position questions for this kid… It doesn’t matter if they put him at safety… This dude was drafted to hit the quarterback.
May 13th, 2016 at 9:35 am
“This dude was drafted to hit the quarterback.”
END OF STORY!
May 13th, 2016 at 9:44 am
@Joe
“Coach My Scheme is shaking uncontrollably at the thought of using a defender in a different way in certain situations.”
LMAO, If it is not in the Tampa2 10 commandments, then the Incompetent one cannot comprehend it!!!!!
Thou shalt not adjust!!!!!
May 13th, 2016 at 9:48 am
He’ll be the best pass rusher we’ve had since Rice….and with Smith and Ayers on the other side….we’re about to make some serious noise!
May 13th, 2016 at 9:52 am
“It could easily be argued Hayes, now Spence’s position coach, knows Spence better than anyone with the Bucs with the possible exception of AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht.”
Except for Jameis
May 13th, 2016 at 10:01 am
“But when Duffner was asked if the draft experts were wrong about Spence when many suggested he could play outside linebacker, Duffner did not rule out using Spence as an outside linebacker in certain packages.”
Natural DE’s – that took snaps at linebacker
• Mathias Kiwanuka
• Bruce Irvin
May 13th, 2016 at 10:04 am
+ Everson Griffen
May 13th, 2016 at 10:36 am
Get them dogs that like to hunt!!!
Imagine third downs where the line is getting to the QB, and the corners can jam the WRs, and not play 8 yards off.
I basically had to turn my head on third downs last season. Too painful to watch.
May 13th, 2016 at 10:38 am
Lmao!!!! Love that last paragraph nailed it Joe!
May 13th, 2016 at 10:57 am
Thou shall always be a Class-less Act!
May 13th, 2016 at 11:00 am
Warrick…… spot on. 3rd down look for Smith and Spence at the end positions McCoy and Ayers at the tackle position CBs playing maybe LVD or KA58 blitzing with….. I am predicting Smith and conte as our starting safeties covering the deep middle. Its going to be exciting!
May 13th, 2016 at 11:05 am
**CBs playing press**
May 13th, 2016 at 11:32 am
@BigHogHeinous says:
“Thou shall always be a Class-less Act!”
Is that why the Incompetent one did not apologize??? Is that why he did not thank the fans??? Is that why he acted like a child and gave everyone the silent treatment??? and what number is that commandment on the Tampa2 commandments!!!!!!
I am just happy that the majority got to see coach my scheme exposed for what he really is!!!!!
May 13th, 2016 at 12:23 pm
@ The Buc Realist: What in the world would he be apologizing for: #1 His team did not win #2 He got fired #3 He should apologize// NO CHANCE IN HELL, I don’t see the BACK-STABBER apologizing for throwing LOVIE under the bus ( before the all the BS starts that’s my take on how things went down) but I guess you can keep waiting on it. You won’t even get my name right, that tells me your Class-less among other things, and I still got my race card tucked away in my wallet!!
May 13th, 2016 at 12:28 pm
Teacher man back to school you.
@joe
We don’t need Spence to be 3 down DE. Playing too much fatigues our guys. We must rotate players to keep them fresh.
We need a 3rd down pass rush specialist who will have fresh legs in the 4th quarter.
William Gholston is one of the toughest DE’s in the NFL. He is a 1st and 2nddown specialist. His job is wear down a RT by beating him up! Then we bring in Jaquies Smith and Noah Spence on 3rd down to attack the QB.
OT vs DE is a boxing match. We need DE’s who can stop the run and beat down offensive tackles and then sub them for DE’s with fresh legs.
I love the 8 man front. We need 8 great defensive lineman to win a Super Bowl.
Think Seattle and Denver. It’s all about the pass rush and having fresh legs in the 4th quarter!!
Brought to you by teacherman. The guy who predicted Mark Barron as a LB/SS before anybody!
Go Bucs!!
May 13th, 2016 at 12:56 pm
@teacherman there was actually quite a few of us saying Mark Barron should have been a linebacker… FYI.
May 13th, 2016 at 1:36 pm
I must be the only guy here who’s last name isn’t Nostradamus! So, “quite a few” of you predicted Barron to be a LB?!
Is there any chance you can give me some lotto numbers?!
I predict that Noah Spence will sack the opposing QB! How’s that for a prediction?
May 13th, 2016 at 1:42 pm
BigHogHaynes…I guess you never watched any games then…that’s all I can take from your post and your thrown under the bus comment. Before all the BS starts that’s my take on your thrown under the bus theory.
I’m not going to attack or anything. That’s just how I read it.
You didn’t watch them play.Period.
May 13th, 2016 at 1:46 pm
I’m rooting for Illinois. I want them to win and win and win.
So Lovie stays in college ball and not put anymore NFL fans through what we had to witness.
I see the slants in my sleep.
May 13th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
@87- Every time I saw it I wished that I was lined up against the receiver so I could drop-kick them at the line of scrimmage! Catch the slant now b#$%!
May 13th, 2016 at 2:52 pm
Buc1987 Says
“I see the slants in my sleep.”
You should, because they’ll still be there in Tampa.
May 13th, 2016 at 3:35 pm
Does Lovie still get paid by the Glazer’s if he’s coaching college?
May 13th, 2016 at 8:27 pm
@Bucsfanman,
I didn’t “predict” anything.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out a fast, 6′ 2″, 200lb+ kid that loved hitting people, was excellent in run stopping while just okay in pass coverage, and was the #1 RANKED LINEBACKER coming out of highschool- could be more effective as a LB or hybrid LB/ safety.
Does it? Any yes, there was a few of us saying he should be used in this way. Again, not “predicting”… Good luck on those lotto numbers
May 14th, 2016 at 2:00 am
@ Buc1987: yes I saw them play each and every week, I see you don’t like or understand how I see this whole LOVIE thing, it’s ok we all have a view and this is a place to air one’s concerns, I’ll continue to post and I’ll continue to read other posts! I’ll always feel he deserved another year!
May 14th, 2016 at 4:10 am
@ SB With Janeis I was thinking that exact same thing myself today
May 14th, 2016 at 8:43 am
No one wrote about this but what a advantage it is to have your D-line coach working out all the defensive linemen before the draft. Especially when your biggest need is DE. So you know when Tampa drafted Noah coach Hayes was confident he would be a terrific player for us that he could mold into a even better player and help him reach his full potential. This might be a terrible thing to say but I’m glad Noah did a little partying at OSU, otherwise he probably wouldn’t be a Buc or we certainly wouldn’t have the best cover corner in the draft to pair withat him. I’m more than confident his partying days are behind him and has learned from the experience and was very humbled by it all. It makes him a smarter and more mature person in the long run.
And as far as him being used as a LB he will most certainly be DE, but depending on coach Smith wanting to mix in a 3-4 from time to time you could see him standing up rushing the passer from time to time. Whatever way you wanna look at it his job is to rush the passer. Period.
May 16th, 2016 at 12:28 am
We were extremely lucky in the draft to get Noah Spence. I am dumbfounded why he slipped to the second round? He reminds me of the Texans Whitney Mercilus, who had 12 sacks last year. With Jay Hayes and Robert Ayers to help him add a few more moves he is going to be our best DE. He is a special player. I don’t know if most people understand what we really got with our first three picks. Not only is Spence special, Vernon Hargraeves and Robert Aguayo are too. Hargreaves is going to surprise people how good he really is. He and Brent Grimes are going to have such an impact on our defense. No more slants and no more 70% completion rate. Aguayo is not only going to bring us victories with long FG’s, his “mortar” kick-offs are going to revolutionize the game.