Greg Hardy And The Bucs
May 31st, 2016
Don’t bank on Greg Hardy landing with Bucs.
A winter ago, a whole lot of Bucs fans were freaking out when it appeared the Bucs had a shot at landing accused woman abuser and gun nut defensive end Greg Hardy.
One of the more gifted defensive ends in the game at the time, Hardy was left on the curb by the Stinking Panthers after his hassle with a girlfriend. He was accused of slapping the woman around and initially found guilty by a judge before Hardy appealed. In the subsequent jury trial Hardy all charges were dropped after the victim blew off the court date. It was learned, in layman’s terms, Hardy’s legal team bought her silence.
It seemed the Bucs and the Cowboys were down to the final two teams interested in Hardy. It sure looked like Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht got tired of being used by Hardy’s agent, oily Drew Rosenhaus, as leverage to up the ante and price tag for Jerry Jones. The Cowboys signed Hardy after Licht threw in the towel.
In Dallas, Hardy proved to be even more of a turd than he was with the Stinking Panthers, if that is even possible. Jones even locked the doors on Hardy, waving goodbye.
With Hardy still looking for work, Dallas Robinson of Pro Football Rumors looks at teams that may still land Hardy. Robinson types about Hardy’s chances of coming to Tampa Bay.
The Buccaneers reportedly considered Hardy prior to the 2015 season, and general manager Jason Licht said in March that the club had not discussed the possibility of signing Hardy this time around. That stance could obviously change if Hardy’s price drops enough, and Tampa Bay could certainly use him, as while the club has a solid rotation at defensive end consisting of Robert Ayers, Noah Spence, William Gholston, Jacques Smith, and George Johnson, it doesn’t have a singular talent like Hardy.
Joe isn’t sure Licht would bite even at a drastic discount. Aside from Hardy’s massive baggage — and folks think women don’t like Donald Trump! — Hardy was a major pain in the posterior for the Cowboys last year. There’s just way too much baggage there to swallow and not enough production (six sacks in 2015). The Bucs have that in Jacquies Smith, a solid teammate with likely a cheaper price tag than Hardy.
Joe is going to guess Licht is satisfied right now with his top defensive ends, Robert Ayers, a class act, talented Noah Spence and Smith.
Don’t get Joe started on sackless Houseplant Johnson.
May 31st, 2016 at 5:44 am
No thanks
Weve had enough young sociopaths, also bucs, putting the area at risk over the years. Go bucs
May 31st, 2016 at 6:10 am
There is so much of the right kind of positive energy flowing through the Bucs organization right now, bringing in a low life like Hardy would be a really bad move. I think Licht is smarter than that. Hardy has not shown any signs that he is done self distructing and all he would do is become a problem/distraction for the coaches and players
May 31st, 2016 at 6:34 am
The Bucs going after Hardy last year is just another reason The Incompetent one is gone!!!
May 31st, 2016 at 6:41 am
Nope, sorry, we dont want your sorry ass here Greg. Go on down the road and play for the CFL, or do whatever ray rice is doing. Nobody wants you.
Dueces!!!
May 31st, 2016 at 6:47 am
It’s much easier to say no this year. He doesn’t even look like the kind of talent that you make exceptions for anymore. Besides, the last thing we need is Noah Spence looking up to this guy.
That said, if we could bring him in at an extremely cheap and team friendly deal, I could be ok with that. If we bring him in on a deal where we can easily and cheaply cut him the moment he starts his bad teammate shenanigans, I’d be ok with that. Given the general lack of interest around the league and Hardy likely having very few skills that make him employable outside of football, I think they would be wise to take such a deal if it’s offered.
May 31st, 2016 at 7:03 am
Sign Greg Hardy !!!
May 31st, 2016 at 7:38 am
You’d have to be absolutely certain he would be positive to team chemistry & I don’t think there is any way you could determine that….so, not worth the risk….
May 31st, 2016 at 7:55 am
Nope nope. He is neither needed nor wanted here
May 31st, 2016 at 8:04 am
sign him for the league minimum and if he misses or is late 1 time cut him
May 31st, 2016 at 8:10 am
Now that Frends and Family is gone, and we now have ALL WORLD CLASS, TEACHING, HIGHLY QUALIFIED STAFF, it would seem they would be able to handle HARDY since they allow cussing in OTA’s……bring HARDY in and this defense will be SOLID AS A ROCK, pull the trigger GM GOD LICTH, make the BUCS an instant contender!!
May 31st, 2016 at 8:12 am
Just say no
Locker room cancer
Complete a-hole
And did not produce on the field
May 31st, 2016 at 8:17 am
The Buc Realist Says
“The Bucs going after Hardy last year is just another reason The Incompetent one is gone!!!”
You may have missed this:
“The Cowboys signed Hardy after Licht threw in the towel.”
The “The Incompetent one” is still with the Bucs.
May 31st, 2016 at 8:27 am
If the Cowboys don’t want hi anymore that should say everything you need to know. Jerry Jones would sell his soul to the devil for a couple more wins so if he wants nothing g to do with the psycho path what does that tell you?? He is a cancer to the locker room, evident of last year with all the drama he was starting with teammates. There’s no way in hell Licht is pondering that decision anymore, his stint with the Cowboys just verified that. What a waste of a talent. We could certainly use his skillset, but not at that price, and I’m not talking money.
May 31st, 2016 at 8:29 am
I actually understood going after Hardy for a low price last year. The fact that Licht got in any sort of bidding war for him is more of a condemnation of Licht.
Last year, Hardy was worth a gamble at a low price because leading up to his legal issues, Hardy showed few signs of behavior problems. A small “prove it” investment to see if he put it behind him would have been worth it.
I wanted him last year, but when I saw the price going up, I changed my mind. People make mistakes. Jones paid Hardy way, way too much, essentially giving him a pass on his past, instead of making Hardy prove himself.
The lack of accountability, as a result, allowed Jones to act out again.
As to this year, I don’t want that cancer anywhere near the Bucs. He has already proven that he DID NOT learn any lessons. We have Spence, who may or may not have potential issues, depending on how he develops as a professional. We want good influences on him, not cancers like Hardy.
Spence made mistakes in college and owned up to them. He could have entered the draft a year sooner, but had the fortitude to prove himself for another year. As a result, he got picked higher in the draft…but it also showed that he could learn from his mistakes. Fix them.
Maybe I’m biased toward Spence. He was on my wishlist this year (along with our kicker).
No to Hardy, for the locker room’s sake.
May 31st, 2016 at 8:33 am
“The lack of accountability, as a result, allowed Jones to act out again.”
I meant Hardy there.
May 31st, 2016 at 9:04 am
No to Hardy, no to Incognito (NFL Net’s Top 100) and no to any other bad boys.
We want sissies….
We want players that want to have “fun” and help opposing players up after the play is over.
I WANT killers out there on the field. Players that snarl!
May 31st, 2016 at 9:06 am
Keep him AWAY from the Tampa Bay community……how’d you like to have him living next door?
May 31st, 2016 at 9:07 am
After Sitting Out *15 games in 2014
Followed Up by *4 games in 2015
Greg Hardy Stats – 12 Games in 2015
• Games Started: 12
• Snap Count: 596
• Percentage of Plays: 56.44%
• Sacks: 6
• Tackles: 23
*How his numbers stack up against our lineman – 2015
Defensive Line – Number & Percentage – Snap Counts 2015
01. William Gholston DE 671 || 61.28%
02. Greg Hardy DE 596 || 56.44% ← 2nd
03. Jacquies Smith DE 543 || 49.59%
04. George Johnson DE 433 || 39.54%
05. Howard Jones DE 386 || 35.25%
Defensive Tackle – Number & Percentage – Snap Counts 2015
01. Gerald McCoy DT 799 || 72.97%
02. Henry Melton DT 511 || 46.67%
03. Tony McDaniel DT 293 || 26.76%
04. Akeem Spence DT 289 || 26.39%
05. Clinton McDonald DT 246 || 22.47%
Tackles
1st. William Gholston: 46
2nd. Gerald McCoy: 26
3rd. Greg Hard: 23← 3rd
4th. Clinton McDonald:21
5th. Henry Melton:19
6th. Jacquies Smith:15
7th. George Johnson:14
8th. Tony Daniels:13
9th. Howard Jones:9
10th. Akeem Spence: 8
Sacks
1st. Gerald McCoy: 8.5
2nd. Jacquies Smith: 7.0
3rd. Greg Hardy: 6.0 ←3rd
4th. Howard Jones: 5.0
5th. William Gholston: 3.0
6th. Henry Melton: 2.0
7th. Tony McDaniel: 1.0
8th. Akeem Spence: 1.0
Note: Greg Hardy wasn’t in game shape in 2015
+ He Lacked the interior/exterior defensive lineman – He had in Carolina
When he’s in game shape – he’s still one of the best 3 down lineman in the league.
Top 100 Players of 2014 #53 : Greg Hardy Please Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkuXr_VHpKk
May 31st, 2016 at 9:14 am
LUV…these people are ridunkilus.
Said the same things about Incognito and his teammates LOVE him.
They said stuff like if they sign Incognito I won’t go to any games…
May 31st, 2016 at 9:16 am
Look Michael Bennet is not walking through that door.
If you can someone of that Elk – with something to prove- Sign’em
Especially – since this seriously might be his last shot in the league.
So I expect his best behavior
May 31st, 2016 at 9:18 am
Tom…I’d let him move into my house with his new girlfriend if he gets us 10-12 sacks per season. 🙂
May 31st, 2016 at 9:19 am
Tom Edrington
So what If he lived next door. U scared?
May 31st, 2016 at 9:20 am
@ Buc1987
They also said the same thing about drafting Jameis…
You can’t rely on the mob.
May 31st, 2016 at 9:25 am
Not worth messing up the positive flow now evident moving forward. Instant karma, no thanks. Hardy har har
May 31st, 2016 at 9:26 am
1987
“When you’ve got a good solid locker room w/strong staff – character issues are nothing to worry about”
Per:
Bill Belichick
Bill Walsh
Bill Parcells
Don Shula
Tom Flores
Pete Carroll
May 31st, 2016 at 9:29 am
GMC can help the QB up off the ground after Hardy sacks him.
May 31st, 2016 at 9:30 am
Greg Hardy is an ahole but talented. You can’t judge his time in Dallas he was playing for one of the Tampa 2 Failures in 0-16 Rod Marineli on a bad defense. I would be livid too if I was setup to fail each and every Sunday knowing the scheme gives you no chance to succeed is frustrating. Give Hardy a prove it deal. Jac Smith is NOT an every down player. Rotate Ayers, Spence and Hardy… I like it.
May 31st, 2016 at 9:37 am
tmaxcon
There’s a couple different combinations that would drive the opposing offense crazy
May 31st, 2016 at 9:39 am
<em"Tampa Bay could certainly use him, as while the club has a solid rotation at defensive end consisting of Robert Ayers, Noah Spence, William Gholston, Jacques Smith, and George Johnson, it doesn’t have a singular talent like Hardy."
Ha
May 31st, 2016 at 9:42 am
Luv……………and they have the $$$ too.
May 31st, 2016 at 9:45 am
No doubt
May 31st, 2016 at 9:52 am
@1987,
First of all, Hardy hasn’t done squat in the NFL in 3 years. 3 years in the NFL is longer than the average career. He’s washed up. Second, he is a locker room cancer. Perhaps you didn’t pay attention to what happened in Dallas (who could blame you), but his teammates hated him. Many even came out saying so, even putting their name on it (which rarely happens).
All that being said, read the story of what he did. This isn’t a guy that slapped his girlfriend once, or pushed her against the wall. This guy is a turd in every sense of the word. The 6 sacks we would get from him (probably at best 6 sacks) are nowhere near worth what he brings to the table. He’s not Lawrence Taylor. Never has bee, never will be. We won’t win 4 games with this lunatic on the roster.
May 31st, 2016 at 10:01 am
I don’t have a crystal ball – so I can’t say what the outcome WOULD BE.
I’ll never condone – A man beating on a woman, a woman beating on a man – or ANYONE beating on a child. But I do know that folks make dumb decisions all the time.
***Especially when their under the influence of drugs, and or alcohol.
From my favorite artisans,authors, musicians, actors, comedians, and athletes.
U Live long enough -you’ll heard about a few of them doing something similar – if not worse.
If its not a repeated pattern – MOST turn things around.
May 31st, 2016 at 10:05 am
“sackless Houseplant Johnson”
I just fell off my chair I laughed so hard at that. Amazing, Joe.
May 31st, 2016 at 10:07 am
MTLBucsFan514:
Joe aims to please. 🙂
May 31st, 2016 at 10:16 am
Greg Hardy 2013-2015
2013* (25) CAR DE – 15 Sacks ←
2014 (26) CAR DE – 1 Sack
2015 (27) DAL DE – 6 Sacks
Note: The last time he had a full off season was 2013
2013 – 13 games
2014 – 1 game
2015 – 12 games
May 31st, 2016 at 10:18 am
Greg Hardy (2013 – (2015)
2013 – (25) CAR DE – 15 Sacks
2014 – (26) CAR DE – 1 Sack
2015 – (27) DAL DE – 6
Note: The last time he had a full off season – 2013
2013 – 13 games
2014 – 1 game
2015 – 12 games
May 31st, 2016 at 10:58 am
LOL Joes! I can’t keep track of all of these nicknames!
May 31st, 2016 at 11:20 am
If there is almost no chance this guy is coming here why are we talking about him. I would bet deeeese nuts he will never be a buc. We already cut the cancers out. why put that $hit in the locker room. Greg hardy > mersa.
May 31st, 2016 at 11:45 am
Hawaiian Buc ….I’m rolling my eyes.
I’m a gambling man. I’d gamble with Hardy considering we’ve essentially had NO pass rush from our ends since Bennett left. He can’t be any worse than what we’ve had. If he busts, he busts. What’s the difference?
Yeah I’d gamble on Greg Hardy. 1 year prove it deal.
May 31st, 2016 at 11:49 am
Oh nevermind. I’m not going to argue with the biggest McCoy fan on JBF anyways. It would be like swimming up stream with one arm.
May 31st, 2016 at 11:54 am
@1987,
What does Hardy have to do with McCoy? I never said we need choir boys, but there’s a line between a guy with an edge and a thug. He had a 16 sack season, and still only has 40 career sacks in 6 season. He only has 5 more sacks than McCoy (since you brought him up) in basically the same amount of games played. He’s according to you a superstar defensive end who has admitted he has zero interest in stopping the run. You can be a gambling man all you want, but you’re a terrible gambler if you think you’ll get any production out of that idiot.
May 31st, 2016 at 12:06 pm
Dude is average at best anyway.
May 31st, 2016 at 12:07 pm
I’d gamble we get more production out of Hardy than George Johnson or Robert Ayers or Gholston. Which is basically my point. What’s the difference? What we have now…. sucks. Spence has yet to take the field so he’s still a question mark and a rookie at that.
May 31st, 2016 at 12:08 pm
No Thanks. 31 other teams are saying the same thing so far. If there were talks with ANY team you know his agent would be making sure everyone knew about it. Hardy will probably get another chance somewhere – but probably not unless/until he humbles himself and admits publicly that his behavior has been messed up and vows to work hard to become a better person and teammate.
’87 – care to make a jersey wager that at some point before he retires in 2-3 years there will be more “problems” involving Incognito?
May 31st, 2016 at 12:18 pm
@1987,
Ayers had double digit sacks more recently than Hardy. I guess you never played sports and don’t understand the concept of how much a guy can destroy a locker room. Why do you think no one has signed him? Do you know more than all 32 GM’s?
May 31st, 2016 at 12:19 pm
Pickgrin…that’s too vague of bet and 2-3 years is a long time. So I lose if he gets a speeding ticket right? lol
He was voted by his peers into that top 100 players….
Why do you think he was voted in there? Because he’s an a-hole?
I saw a pic of him on NFL Network out to dinner yucking it up with his buddies. They all seemed pretty happy with him to me.
If you’re saying “problem” as in he becomes a team problem or “locker room cancer” then I’d have to think on it, but I’d lean towards taking that bet. 2-3 years is a long time.
I’ve learned long ago not to trust the media and their smear tactics. Some of us buy into it, I’m not one of them. Seen it with Winston too.
May 31st, 2016 at 12:20 pm
Hardy is the worst run defending DE in football.
May 31st, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Hawaiian Buc …yes yes tell me about all the great stats other FA’s had before they became a Buc while you’re at it. Don’t stop at Ayers now..
May 31st, 2016 at 12:21 pm
LMFAO – Greg Hardy’s average at best.
C’mon y’all I don’t give a flying f**k about basketball or any other sport.
But FOOTBALL, your not gonna just miss *18 games (Plus a couple Training Camps)
An just walk on the field and BE THAT GUY.
Get the guy in training camp – jell w/ the rest of squad. Good things will happen
May 31st, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Let me see what team signs Hardy and I might bet he has a better year than Ayers. 🙂
May 31st, 2016 at 12:25 pm
Hawaiian
WTF did U get that?
Sure he wasn’t in game shape last year (After missing 18 games)
But before that – he was one of the better all around 4-3 Defensive Ends in the game. Please validate your claim w/ link
2011
2012 <—Please Provide Link
2013 <—Same
— Sure
—Ok
May 31st, 2016 at 12:25 pm
Buc1987
No doubt
May 31st, 2016 at 12:26 pm
Ya know I’m only doing this for you Hawaiian and it’s been awhile. I know how you enjoy this shyte.
Anyone new to the site missed some epic battles between me and Hawaiian in the past. It’s been awhile.
Get’em LUV!
May 31st, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Slow news day….
May 31st, 2016 at 12:46 pm
PFF (2012 – 2013)
Greg Hardy, DE, Carolina Panthers
Hardy earned himself the Panthers franchise tag with his best year to date, taking a step forward from his 2012 breakout year. Ending the season extremely strongly, he was the type of defensive end who would feast on tackles that showed any weakness, three times picking up three sacks in a game. What’s more, he was relentless against the run with six games graded in the green and the ninth most defensive stops against the run of his peers.
***Key Stat: One of three defensive ends to walk away with a pass rushing and run defense grades above +10.0.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:04 pm
I have no problem signing a no risk contract with DE Greg Hardy if he will agree to the following terms and conditions.
First he must acquire absolution. This would require an admission of fault (not guilt) and ask for a second chance to prove that he is today a different person. I would suggest time spent with Father Dungy and a commitment to contribute and provide personal assistance to Women’s protective organizations (community service).
Secondly, he must sign two contracts – one that expires at the end of training camp and before the first week of the regular season at veteran minimum and another after the second week of the regular season (no veteran guarantees) for 1 year at 3mil (the value of DE George Johnson’s contract) with a second year Bucs option at 5mil/year. One of them will not make it.
Result is the player would have shown contriteness and willingness to salvage his reputation. Bucs would have offseason to get an up close look at the player on field and in the locker room. Player would have incentive to make a meaningful first year salary and get a second year increase. Bucs would have no risk as second contract has no veteran guarantees after the first week of the regular season if the player is cut. Win/win for both player and team if he performs as expected.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:05 pm
@LUVMYBUCS,
Hardy signed with Dallas in March of last year!!! So how in the hell are you saying he wasn’t gelling with the guys in training camp? The guys hated him, which is why they didn’t re-sign him. Hardy has a long history of skipping or being late for practices for crying out loud! That’s what you want to bring to Tampa? He’s going to make the difference? Again, even the Dallas damn Cowgirls don’t want him back, and Jerry Jones would bring in a convicted murderer if it could help his team win.
Have you ever see Hardy show any bit of remorse? Have you ever heard a teammate of his defend him? More importantly, what player can you think of that hasn’t done squat for 3 years come back and make an impact? It just doesn’t happen, and it certainly won’t happen with that woman-beating, practice-skipping, locker room cancer-causing, low effort unless he’s in a contract year-playing thug. If any team thought he was worth a damn, he would have been signed already. He plays the second most important position in football. No matter what yoiu can give me from whatever bogus website you can find doesn’t make up for that simple fact. Yes, some team will eventually probably sign him, but it will be an act of pure desperation by a bad team. He will then proceed to do what he has done at every single place he’s been to.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:07 pm
As for his run defense, I’ve seen him quit on plays in the running game. His effort isn’t there. I don’t care what he did 3 years ago in Carolina. I saw him get man-handled by a rookie LT in Tampa, in particular in the run game. Yet he spent each timeout mocking the fans. He’s an absolute joke, and it’s really sad that you can’t see it.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:12 pm
’87 – yea I guess we would have to define what level of “problem” he would have to cause for it to count as a problem. So that will likely make it too difficult to define a clear bet.
My point regard Incognito was – there have been “problems” everywhere Richie has been going back to high school. Go read on his wiki listing the list of “problems” he has caused for his teams with his behavior over the last 15 years. We’re not talking about 1 or 2 or 3 incidents in his past – but a pattern of bad behavior and bad decisions spanning his entire career. He might go 2 or 3 years without “blowing up” – but his history says it WILL happen again at some point so I figured it was a pretty safe bet he will screw up again somehow before he retires.
The overall point was – Incognito and Hardy are both ticking time bombs waiting to explode and blow up a teams locker room chemistry. We don’t need any players like that on the Bucs roster. We have GREAT chemistry among our players right now and its not worth it to bring in someone with a history of making bad decisions and causing problems – even if they are a good player.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Greg Hardy why not? who cares if hes a time bomb.. is he does explode just cut him… give him a try out atleast gee whiz our team has sucked for a long time character issues don’t matter when your team sucks inmo…
May 31st, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Hawaiian Buc
LMFAO – 1st off I don’t give f**K about what 31 other GM’s think.
Why? Because they overdraft – and walk over great prospects ALL THE TIME.
Too many Low Round – Undrafted Free Agents can attest to that.
31 GM’s thought Marshawn Lynch was a Thug – when he was in Buffalo.
But he’s a GOD in Seattle.
30+ GM’s thought Charles Haley was a cancer. But the worshipped the ground he walked on in Dallas.
I can go on and on -(w/ hundreds of examples)- but don’t have all day
As for as DALLAS that Locker Room has been screwed -up for YEARS.
So if them dudes wanna whine about this and that who gives a f**K.
I know a lot dudes in Carolina had his back – and speak highly him.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:24 pm
Hmmm – after 4 different post over 15 minutes period.
My post don’t show up – ok
But after dude post – I can now …lol
Classic
May 31st, 2016 at 1:30 pm
For the record I am NOT a fan of Greg Hardy. He’s like a pit bull that’s been raised to fight. I don’t think he knows anything else and he’s not good for anything else. He’s like Mike Tyson, a powder keg.
All that being said, he can play football. Do I want him? No, I’d prefer that our current players step up. BUT, remind me of the last time that happened!
May 31st, 2016 at 1:33 pm
@Pickgrin- I’d take Incognito before I took Hardy all day long. To me, they are very different situations. Bullying?! In the NFL?! Give me a break!
May 31st, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Hawaiian Buc
The thing about FOOTBALL – I can’t speak on a basketball locker room.
You’ve gotta have a FEW riddahs on the squad – or that one Alpha will walk all over them. I can’t recall Dallas having ANY on that defense last year.
Fortunately – we’ve got a few on our defensive – Big Clint, Gerald, Lavonte, and Kwon. So them dudes can balance him out.
Folks forget — A lot of dudes didn’t like Sapp – He was punkin dudes (In our Locker Room) Left and Right. But guys like DB, Culpepper, and Lynch – balanced him out.
Him and Simeon Rice even but heads – sure Sapp speaks well of him NOW.
But it ain’t like their Hommies .
May 31st, 2016 at 1:43 pm
@LUVMYBUCS,
Too bad you aren’t a GM, but thankfully you aren’t one for the Bucs. I love how you try to make a comparison to a woman beater, locker room cancer, and practice skipper to Marshawn Lynch, who is literally one of the most respected players in the NFL by his peers. Charles Haley was an All-Pro in SF who was traded because he got in a fight with the QB, and nearly with the coach. If he was traded for, that tells a smart man that he was desired. I’d love to hear you give an example of a player that has bought his way out of jail after nearly killing someone, and who consistently misses or is late for practices, and who is a known locker room cancer, and who has shown no remorse whatsoever for any of his actions, and who has really only had two good years, one who hasn’t done squat in the league in 3 years. Maybe you can give me an example from one of those, but you won’t find me anyone to compare that has all of those blemishes. But go ahead and keep trying. I’m enjoying talking about things that will never happen.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:46 pm
Sapp has tackled and slammed a few chics.
Smacked a dude or two – around in looker room.
Cussed out a few coaches – and media types.
But I still see folks wearing his jersey proud.
May 31st, 2016 at 1:59 pm
I love how you try to make a comparison to a woman beater, locker room cancer, and practice skipper to Marshawn Lynch, who is literally one of the most respected players in the NFL by his peers
So are saying Marshawn Lynch wasn’t investigated for Sexual Assault or Domestic Violence by Oakland PD. Are you saying he didn’t run into any legal trouble in Buffalo?
Sure guys LUV Marshawn NOW – But he does have a past.
Charles Haley had several issues – not all them about coaches and players.
He’s one of the LUCKY few that didn’t play in the social media era.
There’s tons a guys with domestic assaults -etc (YES some of them Hall of Famers)
May 31st, 2016 at 2:03 pm
Bucsfanman Says:
May 31st, 2016 at 1:33 pm
@Pickgrin- I’d take Incognito before I took Hardy all day long. To me, they are very different situations. Bullying?! In the NFL?! Give me a break!
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Bucsfanman – this is not about a single incident regarding Incognito’s “bullying”. The dude has a looong history of trouble – more on the field than off. Like I said – go read on his wikipedia page the long list of problems he has caused for just about every team he has ever played for going back to 2002. It is too long to list here.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:11 pm
@Pickgrin- He’s a head-case, no doubt! I would still rather have a guy who is more reckless on the field than one with more problems off the field.
I’m not condoning anything he’s done. As a preference, I’d rather have a guy willing to “mix it up” with other grown men than one who beats on women.
It doesn’t matter anyway. He’s playing for the right coach!
May 31st, 2016 at 2:14 pm
@LUV- There’s a loooooooong list of Dallas Cowboys that make that list.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:16 pm
Charles Haley was an All-Pro in SF who was traded because he got in a fight with the QB, and nearly with the coach. If he was traded for, that tells a smart man that he was desired.
Yep he was traded to a Contending NFC Division Rival#smart
If I recall everyone in the League knew he was about to be released.
Dallas called them up(49ers) with an offer they couldn’t refuse
(just in case – somebody else wanted his services)
May 31st, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Bucsfanman
Lonngggggg list of Cowboys, Raiders, Steelers, Giants, Rams, etc etc etc.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:19 pm
@LUV,
Are you struggling comprehending? I don’t get where the confusion lies. Does Marshawn have ALL of the issues Hardy does? Did Hardy? What part of that is getting tricky for you? If Hardy had one of those issues (maybe even two), then I would be open to bringing him in. He doesn’t, and he proved last year he’s not really that good of a football player. At least not now. This is a what have you done for me lately business. Hardy hasn’t done much more in the NFL than you or I, and that’s why he’s sitting on his couch right now. Argue for the guy all you want, he’s not coming to Tampa. Dry your little eyes and move on.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:24 pm
@LUV- I know, but I just like baggin’ on the ‘Boys!
Didn’t Marshawn kill somebody in Buffalo? A DUI I think.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:25 pm
I’d love to hear you give an example of a player that has bought his way out of jail after nearly killing someone, and who consistently misses or is late for practices, and who is a known locker room cancer, and who has shown no remorse whatsoever for any of his actions, and who has really only had two good years, one who hasn’t done squat in the league in 3 years
Even worse a player that Killed a mother
DUI – Leonard Little
Still can’t believe this guy – was even in the league after that.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:31 pm
I just want another wr and dt at this point draft a de early next year.
May 31st, 2016 at 2:37 pm
My comments are waiting for moderation#again
May 31st, 2016 at 2:49 pm
Luv + 87
Have you guys seen the interview he did with adam schefter? Google -adam schefter greg hardy interview- that dude is trifling. I’m all for rough necks but this dude takes the biggest L in the world.
May 31st, 2016 at 3:32 pm
I really enjoyed that string of comments above. lmao
May 31st, 2016 at 4:59 pm
It was fun stirring up thread and then dipping out. I didn’t want to dip out. I was having fun, but a doc’s appointment pulled me away.
Sorry LUV I wasn’t here for back up.
@37…lol just like the old days huh…
May 31st, 2016 at 11:31 pm
Hardy is way too talented to not give a prove it type contract. As one of the above posters mentioned this is going to be his last chance. What’s a few million dollars of the Glazer’s money if it doesn’t work out?? If it did work out, then we would have a beast of a DE pairing for the next several years in Hardy and Spence.
This year we could play Ayers n Hardy the majority of the time n put Spence in on passing plays. Not only would it help Spence by giving him more time to develop it would also give us a formidable edge rush this season. Get it done before training camp starts before the Raiders pick him up.
June 1st, 2016 at 8:25 am
This person doesn’t need to be rich. He needs less leverage over people. He can’t be trusted to be powerful.
June 1st, 2016 at 11:31 am
Obviously, 87 doesn’t have a teenage daughter.
Here’s the problem I have…Hardy HAS formed a pattern. HE has a hate on for everyone. He is out of control off the field.
Incognito is just a tough guy. The whole bullying thing was a complete joke to me. I’ve gone through much worse in my life. IT was nothing.
Incognito has also demonstrated the desire to move on and improve himself. Hardy has not. Hardy has continued to have issues.
My theory is that he feels he was mistreated by the NFL. He just doesn’t feel he’s done anything wrong…and that means he’s not changed for the better at all.
The man should be kicked out of the NFL at this point.
Bringing him in would be disastrous. This isn’t just about what he does on the field, but also on how his presence affects our young players on defense…especially Noah Spence, who Hardy would likely spend time with.
June 1st, 2016 at 11:33 am
And the difference between Incognito and Hardy is that BOTH had their second chance, but only Incognito demonstrated that he had changed.
You guys act like Hardy just needs a chance to prove himself. He HAS had that chance…and he blew it.