A Pamphile Clone?
May 1st, 2016
Dirk Koetter talks about his new O-lineman
So what exactly did the Bucs draft in UCLA tackle Caleb Benenoch?
Jason Licht deferred the question to Dirk Koetter.
It’s unclear whether Benenoch is an NFL guard or a right tackle. Koetter’s answer? Both.
“That’ll sort itself out, whether he’ll be a down the line right tackle or if he’s an inside player, but swing guys, at this point, are crucial – kind of in the role as how we used [offensive lineman] Kevin Pamphile last year,” Koetter said. “That’s how we’ll start him out and we’ll see how it goes from there.”
The head coached added: “Well, in Caleb’s case, he’s graduating early – young guy. But he’s [got] 35 starts, 31 of them as a right tackle. As Jason [Licht] said, [run game coordinator/offensive line coach] George [Warhop] went out there and spent a lot of time with him and we feel like he could be a guard or a tackle.”
Versatile lineman have long NFL lives. It’s why Ted Larsen is entering his seventh season, and why Jamon Meredith just finished his seventh, and Evan Smith has value to the Bucs.
It’ll be interesting to see Benenoch can crack the Bucs’ opening day roster. If he shows a lot of early promise, then the Bucs might even be willing to part with expensive Gosder Cherilus on cut-down day or via trade.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:10 am
“Why didn’t we draft a DL at this spot instead?”
This is a more appropriate question.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:16 am
So two Kevin Pamphiles are the key to success?
Who would have thunk it?
May 1st, 2016 at 11:23 am
6’5 305 4.98 40 25 reps on bench, 35 game starter, production, speed, power, experience, this guy would’ve been a 1st or 2nd rounder next year, UCLA gave up 14 sacks with a freshman QB, and made a 4th round RB Paul Perkins a 1500 yard rusher, that’s a lot to be excited about, our starting RT is injury prone and 31, this guy looks like our future RT, and that future may be this year, Warhop isn’t afraid to play a rookie
May 1st, 2016 at 11:25 am
You guys are really short term thinkers…
May 1st, 2016 at 11:27 am
Were there any questions on how we’re gonna get a decent dt and not some garbage off the scrap heap? Like last years boys lmao.. We could have had reed in the 2nd with that extra pick or billings in the 4th. Instead we get a panty waist dork kicker that could have been had in the 6th rd. There are only a few putz buc fans who like that. Everybody who gets paid to analyze this stuff thinks it was the dumbest move of the entire draft!! I don’t care if this guy is good dumb move. Kickers are cheap. As for this licht love cool down or see if he’ll get a room. Guy has 1 good draft and 1 average draft. He whiffed in free agency once too. He hasn’t proven himself to be Polian or Wolfe yet. We’ll see??
May 1st, 2016 at 11:28 am
Logan mankins would have been a perfect mentor for this kid. Really too bad for our team that he didn’t stick it out for one more year. Def don’t blame him at all but still wish he would have stayed. We don’t need this kid to step in immediately and play this year. Sit a year or two and then lock down a spot on the right side of our line.
Good pick and seems like a good person as well.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:48 am
Granted the new kicker is a big question mark at that pick level. I’ll just have to trust the decision made and think positive thoughts going forward. Higher football acumen made the choice. The draft is over, he is our new kicker. There is no other option.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:49 am
As far as I’m concerned the move Licht made after the first to picks in the 2nd round were DEs…..buy not using our 4th then to move up to get Spence….and holding firm (big balls)…..he could do anything he wanted with that extra pick and he did.
As far as Aguayo going in the 6th round……that sounds pretty unlikely to me…..and it’s easy to claim because we will never ever know….
Bo Jackson would have made a great Buc also…..but we’ll never know, will we?
May 1st, 2016 at 11:50 am
Exactly 37…..Nothing to see here, move along.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:50 am
first two picks
May 1st, 2016 at 11:52 am
Jeremy Cash went undrafted. I hope we bring him in on a flyer. Also Chris Brown WR out of Notre Dame
May 1st, 2016 at 11:55 am
This seems like a good organizational pick. Take a guy late with good upside anticipating that the position might be one of need in the next two to three years and see if he can be the answer. If he isn’t then you can make the decision to either bring in a FA or take another swing higher in the draft. I think it’s a good idea for late round picks. Kind of reminds me of how NHL teams are always building the organization.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:55 am
Hmmm, I can get possibly the best kicker in college history or a DT for depth which I can probably grab during the second wave of free agency or after training camp cuts…what should I do?
One guy is likely to literally win games for us and score a lot of points for the Bucs. The other guys we hope only sees the field if our starter is hurt or tired. What should I do? Best thing I can think of is to ask that dope Brent Bul/Buc because his knowledge and experience as a message board GM is unparalleled.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:56 am
Nevermind……….Panthers just signed Cash
May 1st, 2016 at 12:00 pm
REPOSTED from Previous article.
This site is full of freaking homers, left and right. Can anyone, with any seriousness sit here and tell me it was our corners fault (other than jenkins and jennings) or was it the scheme? If it was the scheme, like many say, why draft so many CBs in the first place? We already had at least 3 starting corners that would start over VH3 in any team. VH3 is not supposed to start this year if we go by some of you guys assessment on why we drafted him.
Our DTs are on the same page as the DBs, as to we have some, but some are leaving next year during FA. What we are STILL missing is the pass rush! I am so glad we got Spence and I am hoping he turns into a a sack machine. Anyways, This draft was supposed to be so DT heavy and we don’t even get one. Not ONE! we should’ve drafted at least 1 in the first three rounds.
Don’t get me going about Aguayo, we are the biggest clowns of this years draft because of that. Besides the homers here, no one else really looks at it as beneficial and I am a Florida State fan. Yes the guy was a great kicker in college, and I am aware of the games we lost last year because of kicking, But the team wouldn’t be in those situations if the defense was effective! It starts in the trenches folks, in the trenches! I don’t care if the patriots wanted aguayo, they can afford him because they are contenders years in, year out! We are still pieces away from any type of contention other then the bottom of the NFC South and we DRAFT A KICKER! Carolina didn’t need a DT, but they drafted one, why? Because it starts up front! Seattle went ahead and got themselves some good line. Does CINCY need another DT, no but guess what, the drafted them.
My point is that Mccoy needs help, and he is not getting it. He needs another explosive DT to really make this Dline go.
No one will admit it, but the bugs reached for aguayo and VH3 – instead of beefing up for the DLine – I hope I am wrong but don’t expect this guys to be that much of an impact this year, so you won’t be disappointed.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:01 pm
C’mon BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!! Panthers and GB are going crazy on the UDFAs……….Get in the ring guys!!!!!
May 1st, 2016 at 12:03 pm
Jaboo stop making so much since. Like I said yesterday after he kicks his first game winner next season they’ll all be on his n@$ s@$. Like I just posed on the other thread who from this draft will have a bigger impact than Roberto on this team next season.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RO – Aren’t we supposed to be short term thinkers? I mean do the bucs really have the patience to not fire a coach because of lack of results?
May 1st, 2016 at 12:06 pm
People sign with those team because the WIN!!! we don’t – as simple as that.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:07 pm
You are right Nole. Just can’t believe we are talking about 3rd and 4th round DT’s who I promise 99% of the posters here couldn’t pick out of a lineup. So stupid.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:08 pm
Buccs fans do seem to have bad memory. Probably a result of all the losing in recent years. Our kicking last season was a str8 up embarrassment. I mean I use to dread going to work the next day.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:13 pm
List of UDFA that the bucs are missing out on…
Safety Jeremy Cash – Duke
DE Shawn Oakman
Safety Tyvis Powell
May 1st, 2016 at 12:17 pm
I LOVE this pick!! We are virtually assured a Pamphile level player…and I like Pamphile…swing OL are a valuable asset…but Caleb has an incredibly high upside!!!
He could be the real deal and have Marpet like success for us. His measurable are great…tons of experience but he’s still young…and his soccer background has given him great feet. I expect him to be the starting RT sooner rather than later.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:17 pm
Oakman may not even play a down in the NFL after the assault issues he has.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:20 pm
Changing the subject…….how would some of you negative nannys like to be a St. Louis Ram fan watching the draft…knowing you have to now fly to LA to see your team play?
What a bummer!!!
May 1st, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Add DE James Cowser from southern utah
May 1st, 2016 at 12:21 pm
On what Nole said. Hell the special teams was horrible. If I remember correctly. We brought in a new punter in Anger. We have the best college kicker ever and some these late rounders will immediately impact special teams. Field position is a must. As far as the kicker crap that is going to continue goin on. Licht as already said he drafts in terms of thinking about 3 years ahead. When we will be contenders year in and out. Now we have hat franchise kicker everyone wants when the game is on the line. Go Bucs. In licht we trust.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:22 pm
As soon as some of you get over the homerism – you will understand football IMO. – i bet some of you were the same ones thinking we would win a Super Bowl when we signed our 20mil kicker during the rah era uh? LOLOLOLOL
May 1st, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Next season there will be no more D. Smith, Cherilus may be cut this year if Caleb is ahead of schedule and 50/50 shot Dotson comes back next year. That’s why they took Caleb. He’s only 21 and can still grow in to that jello body he has… Pamphile will be the RT and Caleb swing T and G backup on game days. Licht says all the time he looks 2-3 yrs ahead, but no one listens.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:23 pm
Didn’t know he had sexual assault charges, no wonder he didn’t get drafted.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:23 pm
I can’t find one guy who gets PAID to analyze football who likes that kicker move. In fact, the four I’ve looked at think it was awful. The only ones who like it seem to be a handful of buc fans. Kickers can be found their cheap. Great bfl teams are strong on the lines and can throw the ball. Ol dl qb wr. As for licht, he’s a promising unproven young gm who I personally think will be good. Until he wins a Super Bowl or we’ve made 3 straight playoff appearances calm down. He hasn’t EARNED this kind of reverence. Besides, nobody is above criticism. The Bucs belong to the fans.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:25 pm
As soon as some of you get over the HOMERISM, the better you will understand football IMO. i bet some of you are the same fans that thought we would win a Super Bowl after we signed that 20mil kicker during the rah rah era uh? LOLOLOLOL
May 1st, 2016 at 12:26 pm
Day 3 is where Licht will unfortunately keep his job. His day 3 picks were better than the 1st 2 days combined with the exception of Spence
May 1st, 2016 at 12:27 pm
We have 3 rock solid DTs. Anyone drafted in the 3rd round or later would be a back up. Get the best kicker ever or a 3rd string DT? Fock the rest of you, give me that kicker.
Kicker is a much bigger need than a 3rd string DT. We will find better, more proven talent at roster cuts or via trade. Lets just stop acting like late round picks are supposed to be all pro world beaters. You make yourself look stupid when you do. It’s possible to find a diamond in the rough but it isnt likely.
Other than kwon we havent had a late round pick contribute much on the bucs. We have more accomplished undrafted guys than late round picks.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Colin cowherd loved the kicker pick. Defended it on twitter. Im sure he will rant and rave about it on his monday show.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:33 pm
Catching up on later draft picks now. Lost all intrest after moving up to draft a kicker. No WR……WTF. When is the open tryout. I’m pretty sure i can beat out Kenny Bell.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:33 pm
trubuc – how about LB Alexander? – the deepest class of DTs and we couldn’t get one in the 3rd or 4th
May 1st, 2016 at 12:34 pm
the best teams in the league have good kickers. just look at the kickers that the patriots have coveted. Vinateiri and Gostkowski. Belichick thinks highly of having a good kicker. And he has had that philosophy help him win multiple superbowls. Who knows is Aguayo will become a great kicker or not. But if he does then he is invaluable to the team. You can’t win games without a good kicker. The kicking game in the NFL is extremely important.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:35 pm
I said “other than kwon”…..
May 1st, 2016 at 12:35 pm
2nd and 4th rd aren’t late round picks. They are early and mid round picks. There were starting caliber dt in both rounds and wr. Do I have to name them? Did you watch the draft? We need a good rotational dt not an all pro and a decent slot receiver. One last thing on this kicker. He was 21-26 last year. He missed 3 between 40-49 how is that great?
May 1st, 2016 at 12:35 pm
I think he would of Def been there with our pick in the third, possibly the 4th. There was no need to trade back up into the second. I heard a lot of playoff teams were laughing at us when we made the selection. Embarrassing. Hope he turns out to be a Janikowski. If not it wasn’t worth a 2ND rounder. And I think he was 14-20 beyond 40 yards. That sounds like a average kicker to me.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Name me one DT that we should have taken in the 3rd or 4th. I bet you can’t even name one without looking it up.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:38 pm
What the bucs just created is a big target on the kicker when he misses, because you know as soon as he misses they will be calling for his head. Mostly because we traded up for him in the 2nd round. Unlike some of you, I can almost put my balls that 2/3rds of the fan base does not approve of the pick.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:38 pm
Herm Edwards Loved the kicker pick too.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:39 pm
Billins was there – a project late 1st/ 2nd
May 1st, 2016 at 12:39 pm
Ok then name a kicker in the NFL that has nailed every fg under 50 yards. Name me one that hasnt missed one under 40 yards. Robbie gould had a massive streak of not missing one over 2 years but then he missed a few last season. Aguayo has NEVER missed under 40. I don’t think you guys understand how impossible of a feat that is.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:40 pm
Mel the hair Kiper liked the kicker pick as well
May 1st, 2016 at 12:40 pm
Trubucfan22 Says:
May 1st, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Name me one DT that we should have taken in the 3rd or 4th. I bet you can’t even name one without looking it up.
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Andrew Billings…………Next question.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:41 pm
I really wanted bullard, who BTW wass drafted near our 3rd round pick
May 1st, 2016 at 12:42 pm
Funny, those against the kicker pick say you can find a good one anywhere which has been our philosophy for years which is why our kicking game sucks. I would argue you can get a depth DT literally off the streets depending on what you ask him to do.
This pick is all about probability. If he proves to be a great kicker, which is high probability, than it was a great pick. Simple as that.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:44 pm
you asked, and i am telling you – specially the ones i really thought could make an impact right away on the team. I really wanted rankins or christ jones with spence – spence was the pick i wanted all along – then bullard – problems likely solved on the line after a draft like that.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:45 pm
40+ is not a easy kick to make consistently. And in college it is even harder with the extra wide hashes. You will never convince me a great kicker is not worth a second round pick. Not when you are pounding the table for a back Up DT.we are not that desperate for a DT we need some depth but that is it. GMC and Mcdonald are excellent starters for DT no rookie would beta them out. The value of a great kicker is much greater and more impactful than a back up DT. Our DTs had a great season last year. Not sure why we have this huge need all of a sudden.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:47 pm
Javon Hagrave will be better than Andrew Billings. I wanted him bad but I’ll take a future HOFer and GOAT too. It’s never bad to have one. Plus I’m high on Ayers. Injuries and misuse have slowed his career but I think he’s ready to explode next year. 12 sacks is my prediction. 9 for McCoy. 8 for Jaques Smith. 5 for Noah Spence. Anyone besides Hargrave in the 3rd or 4th wouldn’t have even cracked the rotation
May 1st, 2016 at 12:47 pm
It doesnt matter what the fans think. It’s not up to them. Its up to Licht, who has many more sources and tips than any poster on this site who is playing nostradomus and pretending to know that there were many “starters” available. LMAO. I cant do anything but laugh at some of the stupidity.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:47 pm
Ok then name a kicker in the NFL that has nailed every fg under 50 yards. Name me one that hasnt missed one under 40 yards over a 3 year period.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:49 pm
“I keep hearing people taking digs at the Bucs for drafting a kicker in Round 2, but Roberto Aguayo really is the kind of guy you take in Round 2. With PATs moved back and the fact that so many games come down to that one big kick, at that point it just doesn’t look that bad.” Mel Kiper
May 1st, 2016 at 12:50 pm
@TruBucsfan
Belichick thinks highly of having a good kicker.
Exactly! I do not know who was scheduled to kick for NE this year. Licht does!
Licht also knows Belicheat very well. NE had two picks ahead of our 3rd round pick…perhaps Licht thought Belicheat would use one of them on a kicker…hence the need to move up.
Whether it was Belicheat or somebody else Licht conceded he moved up out of fear someone else was going to grab Aguayo.
So let’s see…believe Licht..or some of the keyboard GM’s here. Duh…with all due respect to EVERYBODY here…I believe I’ll go with Licht on this one.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:56 pm
SB there’s a reason Billings fell to where he did. GMs are not all that high on just the run stopper DT in this pass happy league. You gotta some ability to do both.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:59 pm
I second that notion Pete and whoever his mole is inside that New England war room I hope they keep a good tight lid on him.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:03 pm
Licht knew for a fact that Aguayo had no chance of making it past the Patriots with back to back late second round picks. We took the player they wanted so they traded back down. I bet Belichick was pissed 🙂
May 1st, 2016 at 1:04 pm
Everyone know’s Belicheat will cut you in a minute to keep from overpaying you if he feels that is what the organization would have to do to keep you. And then turn around and draft at that same position. S@$! is gangsta, it’s why they’re good. They cut throat.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:10 pm
I just want to make sure I’ve got this straight. We drafted arguably the best corner, edge rusher and kicker in the draft but because we didn’t get the 10th to 15h best DT in the draft then Licht is a moron?
May 1st, 2016 at 1:11 pm
Also, Aguayo has only missed one “important” kick in his career, against Boston College last year. That was an awful game and points were at a premium. Only 1 kick that I would consider bad as well. Short from 56 against Houston? Come on Roberto u are better than that. We all know it.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:12 pm
@ jaboobuc
That is what I have been preaching! I even heard a dude say that picking Aguayo canceled out our first two picks and we had a bad draft because of it. Some people are pretty dumb
May 1st, 2016 at 1:14 pm
72% of JBF polled gave the Aguayo pick an A or B. With 3K polled
52% of Bucnation gave the pick a passing grade. A, B or C.
To be fair people should consider the most recent 2nd round kicker (Mike Nugent) not just Janikowski. Nugent washed out after 4 seasons with the Jets and 4 games with the Bucs. Cini not the Jets are now reaping the rewards of his bounce back. Highly drafted kickers seem to hit about as often as other players taken. Personally my money is on Aguayo.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:15 pm
I understand that Nole. That is why he fell. I was just answering TruBucsfan’s queery. He said name a DT that we could have gotten in the 3rd or 4th
May 1st, 2016 at 1:17 pm
Some fans are confused. A kicker isn’t a luxury pick, only one kicker on a team, very important piece to a football team. A luxury pick is taking a DT when you aready have three on the roster along with ayers and gholston who can ply all over the line. Don’t let your passion cloud your minds, fans. I know some of you are confused, you should be, the draft can be a trying time for uneducated keyboard GMs. just believe in Licht
May 1st, 2016 at 1:20 pm
I mean me and you spoke about him off jbf. I wouldn’t have mind him being drafted by us but on the same token I ain’t mad we didn’t. I love every move we just made.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Aguayo was 80.8% last season with FSU, by far his worst season. Barth was 82.1%. Don’t get me wrong I think Aguayo is a better kicker. I just wanted to be fair to Conner because he didn’t have a bad season last year. The big mistake was cutting him in favor of Brinza ( 50% 6 of 12).
May 1st, 2016 at 1:31 pm
Ima give you another one SB, people are butt hurt over us taking not just a kicker a freakin All American Kicker. Imagine the out cry if say Licht had decided to take Billings over Spence in 2nd round. They’d be screaming bloody murder and that he should be burned at the stake.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:32 pm
Kyle Brinzda is proof that Licht is bad at kicker evaluations. Luckily it’s doesn’t take a savant to spot the best to ever do it.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:38 pm
People hating the Aguayo pick didn’t watch us this past year. If they had they would have seen how bad our kicking game was. The pick caught me by surprise but not a bad pick at all when you look at our kicking game last year.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Perhaps a big free agent DT signing is in the works that we can easily afford. If not the the former the assistant ( that we just lost ) was the real reason why our picks worked out.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:48 pm
If we drafted the kicker for 3 years from now. When we are a contender. Then why not sign him as a FA. After rookie contract is up. Not give up these picks. Let him prove himself at someone else’s 3rd or 4th round pick. Buc brass has put this kid in a bad spot. Kickers are head cases anyway. 3rd round without a tradeup would has been acceptable. Maybe he secretly ran a 4.4 40. And will be our slot WR.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:52 pm
Ok get all the b!tc&ing out of your system about the kicker today, he’s a Buc, he’s a talented player, hate all you want today, then it’s time to move on and support your team, even the kicker
May 1st, 2016 at 1:55 pm
You guys saying this guy is goat and automatic. Not so much.. Good nfl kickers make kicks under 40 easy. Get a real good one in 6th rd or even 5th. 2nd and give up a pick. Crazy!!
May 1st, 2016 at 2:00 pm
Keep saying how bad it was- Barth was at the very least average, it was brindza and that problem was fixed
May 1st, 2016 at 2:02 pm
For the record I love that the Bucs drafted a FSU kicker. Wyatt & Coach Sexton have both FB me asking me how fired up I was that he was coming to Tampa. James Colzie and I use to talk a lot about the Bucs so everyone knew we were big buc fans.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:13 pm
BTW Brindza was a self admitted Lovie guy. The guy had the leg but it takes time to adjust to a NFL ball and hashes especially on the mid range kicks. I hated the fact that Lovie cut Conner for Kyle B.. IMO Murrey and Barth both when healthy belong on a NFL roster.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:21 pm
Does this mean Kevin Pamphile is ready to step into more time at right tackle? Or might by next year?
May 1st, 2016 at 2:23 pm
OMG, does kicker talk have to dominate EVER SINGLE ARTICLE in the comments section?????????
Get past it!
The only thing that would make it a bad move is if the guy busts.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:48 pm
It’s amazing to read the rantings of the Lazy Boy gms on this board around draft time! they cry draft after draft after draft! Ohhhhh they didn’t draft this guy why draft that guy??? They reached for him!!! The world is over because they didn’t draft my favorite player!!! Why aren’t they signing all the best UFAs??? These guys act like they know more than an entire NFL coaching staff! Why because you watch so many college games? Do you even realize the games you watch are on t.v.and you only get one point of view while they get much more to watch on their COACHES tape and are paid to do this. It is their job you just do this as a past time! They see more than you ever could. No matter how good a score all the draft pundits could give the Bucs you still will never be happy! You will always find something to cry about! Can you realize that with a limited amount of high picks there’s no possible way they can fill all their needs at once??? Do you realize that they are forced to put a higher emphasis on some positions over others?
It can be argued that Aguayo was a reach in the 2nd but ALL the experts and I’m sure all NFL teams will say he’s a very good kicker. How many 1,2,3 point games do the Bucs have to lose for you to understand we need a quality kicker? Drafting a good one gives us a chance to have one for years to come thus allowing them to focus on other positions in future drafts and free agencies. Ask the Redskins how a kicker carousel can derail your season. It seems to me Licht had some info that allowed him to wait for Spence to “fall” to us in the 2nd. So if it is said he had info saying the Pats were going to draft him next I can believe it being the Bucs were one of the worst scoring tds inside the 20 so I understand why they jumped to get him. Under most circumstances you don’t risk leaving points on the field. Don’t you remember it was said last year the Pats were going to pick Ali Marpet and thats why they traded up to get him? YOU SAW HOW THAT WORKED OUT RIGHT???
Some of you guys should stop watching so much college ball because too much knowledge can make you crazy. It’s better for us to think you’re crazy than for you to post and remove all doubt.
Though Lichts FA record has a lot left to be desired his drafting has been pretty darn good so have a little faith in him.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:53 pm
http://m.620wdae.iheart.com/onair/the-pat-and-aaron-show-55861/charlie-campbell-some-teams-laughed-at-14664542/ To put it in some perspective- some of you don’t wanna listen, fine- he isn’t the know it all but has more insight than we do.
May 1st, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Wish I could have sent my feelings to licht directly. Nonetheless I’m done. Enjoy your second rd kicker. I hope he’s great..
May 1st, 2016 at 4:52 pm
I read Aguayo was a three time All American at FSU, the only other player sharing that distinction was Deon Sanders. We Bucs fans who laugh last laugh best.
May 1st, 2016 at 5:16 pm
Aguayo is a excellent kicker from 01-39..
2013-2015 FGA/FGM
• 01-19: (1-1 ) = 100%
• 20-29: (28-28) =100%
• 30-39: (17-17) = 100%
01-39 = 46/46 (Just a chip shot for this kid)
But he’s an average to below average kicker from 40+
2013-2015 FGA/FGM
• 40 – 49: (18-24) = 75%
• 50 – 99: (4-8) = 50%
In the beginning he should excel in kickoffs, and extra points – but he’s a work in progress from 40+
May 1st, 2016 at 5:22 pm
The riddle Special Teams Coordinator Nate Kaczor, must solve is why has he regressed over the past two seasons.
FG%
• 2013: 95%
• 2014: 90%
• 2015: 80%
May 1st, 2016 at 5:47 pm
@buccaneer bonsai
that is also what I have been wondering about Pamphille.we will see if he
backs up or replaces cherilus or Dotson.I would like to see him get his shot.
May 1st, 2016 at 5:50 pm
Fwiw barth was 3-6 at Fgs 40-49 yards.
And 3-5 at 50+.
May 1st, 2016 at 6:09 pm
@luvmybuc
excellent point as usual.I even this disparity over 40 yards being blamed
on the college kicking game rules.Anybody care to elaborate on that?difference in hashmarks or spotting of ball before the kick?
May 1st, 2016 at 6:17 pm
Luvmybucs,
Thats an easy one. The seminols trusted him more and more and called on him to make harder kicks in his second and third year. He didnt always convert them, but the kid has talent. There is no denying that. He will get better with more experience and it will help that the hashes in the NFL are closer so he won’t have to kick at weird angles any more.
May 1st, 2016 at 6:26 pm
with the exception of halftime or the end of game . if team gets to 28 yard
line or less for 40 yard or less field goal.hope this team gets in the endzone.
May 1st, 2016 at 6:32 pm
thanks trubuc,you awnswered some of the questions i had.
May 1st, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Bob in Valrico
Thank you Sir
In comparions to one of the best kickers in the league.
*K – Stephen Gostkowski | New England Patriots
4-time Pro Bowler & 2-time First-Team All-Pro
2013 -2015
• 0-19: (1-1) 100%
• 20-29: (25-25) 100%
• 30-39: (35 – 34) 97%
2013 -2015 | From 40+
• 40-49: (40 – 35) 87.5%
• 50+: (11-10) 90.9%
FG%
• 2013: 92.7%
• 2014: 94.6%
• 2015: 91.7%
Note: Drafted by the New England Patriots in the 4th round (118th overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft.
May 1st, 2016 at 7:02 pm
Trubucfan22
No doubt the kid has talent, but there’s work to be done from 40+.
An that’s the area of most concern with most kickers.
When their making the transition from college to pro’s.
Example
When Alex Henery was drafted in 2011, the major selling point for him was his 89.4 FG%, which at that time was the best in NCAA history.
“In particular, Henery only missed twice inside 50 (63/65), and was 5/11 from 50 and beyond, including a 57-yarder in 2008 – not bad for a college kicker who was more known for his accuracy.
But After 4 seasons in the league – (3 with the Eagles /1 with the Lions)
He’s now an accomplished greeter at the Piggly Wiggly