Titans, Rams And Bucs
April 15th, 2016
No, that headline is not some sarcastic Three Stooges reference. But the three teams, the Titans, Rams and Bucs, all played last year at times as if Moe, Larry and Curly were on the field.
In case you were under a rock yesterday, the Rams acquired the top pick in the draft from the Titans, who now pick behind the Bucs. Logic suggests the Rams will draft a quarterback at No. 1 (but Joe maintains that with Jeff Fisher running the show, he is such a defensive knothead he just may draft Jalen Ramsey).
At No. 2, if the Browns had any sense (debatable). they too would draft a quarterback or trade out to a team that does need a quarterback.
So simple math says the Bucs selecting at No. 9, should get one of the seven-best non-quarterbacks in the draft, and likely get no worse than the No. 2 defensive end or cornerback in the draft.
So the trade, on paper, seems a great deal for the Bucs. Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht this so, too. Well, sort of, so he explained in his pre-draft presser yesterday.
“Yeah it could [benefit the Bucs], but it’s all ifs, ands and buts still at this point,” Licht said. “The draft never works out exactly – you could do a hundred mocks and it never works out the exact way you put it down, that you guess.
“You have to wait until the draft flows and that’s kind of like a play caller. You know, you have your script during a game and Dirk [Koetter] has things that he wants to do. Sometimes it doesn’t work out that way and you have to revise your plan a little bit and kind of shoot from the hip, for the lack of a better term. Every draft is different.”
On paper, Joe cannot envision a scenario where two corners and two defensive ends will be selected by the time the Bucs are on the clock.
Could Joey Bosa really slip to the Bucs?
Or does Licht go really bold and trade up for Jalen Ramsey?
April 15th, 2016 at 7:53 am
Now that the titans have a lot of pick…. maybe they want to get up to 9 and will pay a lot for it. what would be nice if someone in the top 8 falls in love with paxton lynch!
April 15th, 2016 at 8:04 am
Mike
Yes i hope so. I hope the titans wana get back in the top ten. The bff’s could make a trade and get the bucs more picks.
April 15th, 2016 at 8:04 am
The only predictable thing about the draft is that it is VERY unpredictable….mock drafts are like NCAA basketball brackets
April 15th, 2016 at 8:08 am
Bosa is not that good. Even if he is there, pass. And Ramsey has 0 ball skills. Not worth the picks we would lose to move up to get him. Stay at 9 or trade down. We have several holes to fill. We aren’t a top team just missing one or two guys.
April 15th, 2016 at 8:14 am
When I saw the headline, I thought Joe would talk about how the Titans would move back up to the Bucs spot with one of their 2nd rounder. It was part the talk on NFLradio yesterday!!!
Joe wrote about that scenario just after the trade. –Joe
April 15th, 2016 at 8:15 am
Bosa??? C’mon man.
April 15th, 2016 at 8:22 am
Look man Ohio st. plays too many cup cakes for my liking so scratch that bosa noise. Spence gose to eastern K and I’m wondering why he didn’t lead the country in sacks playing over there. Some want Bucker the run stopper but in my opinion everything Oregon produces is soft like cottenelle toilet tissue. I mean show a single bad a$$ that has come out of Oregon. Folks wanna attach the lazy tag to my guy Ogbah to them I say well d@$! he had 28 sacks on that level good thing he is being referred to as lazy were it not we would not have a chance to draft him.
April 15th, 2016 at 8:23 am
Funky, 0 ball skills for Ramsey? LOL. Clearly you never watched him play at FSU.
April 15th, 2016 at 8:30 am
Dream on Buc fans. The Titans have no need or desire to trade with our Bucs. They made a slammin deal yesterday. They get 2 1st rders, 2nd, and third picks plus a 1st rder again next yr. Now that was a trade! They get potentially 4 or 6 fresh future starters for their team. And, they needed it. I’d say, they had a pretty good trade day.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:07 am
Great Logic by Nole
And IMO Licht ain’t trading up for ANYONE.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:07 am
Nose-candy Bosa? No thanks. Wouldn’t draft him in the second round. Let him be someone else’s problem.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:09 am
Hey FuNkY……..I did have a couple beers for you and Rusty Rhinos the night I met up with Nole. Did you feel them. 🙂
April 15th, 2016 at 9:09 am
You right Mike and I wonder what John Robinson thinks of his new so called franchise QB. I’m interested in seeing whether or not he can truly read defenses. Can’t dink and donk your way to canton. The picks are nice but I’ve seen so many read option guys struggle to read NFL defenses. IMO the jury is still out.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:12 am
Top of the morning SB what’s good my brother???
April 15th, 2016 at 9:23 am
If you think D. Buckner or J. Bosa are super dynamic multiple pro bowl players who will be sack machines I think you don’t know very much.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:23 am
Just getting ready for work bro as I do my every morning reading of JBF.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:25 am
I’m really hoping we trade down… Just like when MD traded down but drafted the wrong player…
April 15th, 2016 at 9:31 am
Part of the reason Robinson made that trade was because a) he’s not stupid, and b) he wants to have those picks to move around at will. I believe that, not just because he said so, but because it makes such obvious sense. So, could the Titans make a deal with us? Sure, if both Robinson and Licht like the terms of the deal. Just because Robinson was mentored by Licht, it doesn’t follow that Robinson will agree to a Bucs-friendly deal if he’s not getting what he wants from it. He’ might be good friends with Licht, but he’s cashing Titans checks now.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:34 am
I can’t believe how stupid the Rams were, for doing this trade. There is no Cam Newton or Andrew Luck in this draft. IMHO, th Rams would have been better off with Mike Glennon.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:37 am
Safe bet Jared Goff is much better than Nick Foles or Case Keenum, right now.
Los Angeles is a buzz, what’s-hot, TMZ town, for better or for worse (just look at the stunt they pulled not announcing the trade because of Koby Bryant), Rams trying to get an identity in a newish market. Good luck doing that with Nick Foles and 10 losses a season.
If the Rams draft a quarterback, it’s a smart trade business wise.
April 15th, 2016 at 9:41 am
This deal kind of makes me wonder who really had the most influence during the last couple of drafts for us. Robinson certainly seems like the real deal. With that said, I believe Licht is very intelligent and I will support whatever he decides to do come draft day.
April 15th, 2016 at 10:24 am
I cannot believe you guys would even criticize that Titans/Ram trade. man, the Titans got a 6 for 1 deal. And solidified their draft the following year. Very savvy smart move. As for LA, hey, its Los Angeles. Smart by them too. Letting their future fans know they are looking towards the future by selecting a good QB. Wish we Bucs had been the Titans.
April 15th, 2016 at 10:39 am
Curly just weighed in on the Rams-Titans trade. He only said nyuk nyuk nyuk and so on.
April 15th, 2016 at 11:12 am
Losing picks and reaching for a QB are not smart… Is Goff or Wentz actually worthy of a number 1 pick… Hell’s NO!! Are either better than MG8? Will never know because he’s been in a bad situation since he got here and no I’m not one that says we should have passed on JW because we had MG8. Good QBs wash out on bad teams when they are young.
April 15th, 2016 at 11:44 am
@dick….@funky is right…he has no ball skills along with m.alexander…ramsey has 4career ints…3 freshman 1 somph year 0 last year…alexander never had a pick in college….that’s why most scout suggest ramseys best position is safety even though he never started or played the safety position before….the db with the best ball skills, technique and footwork is vhg who has 10 career picks in the toughest conference in cfb with 4 coming this year….GO BUCS!!!
April 15th, 2016 at 1:10 pm
I’m not that excited about Bosa if he falls to us. He strikes me as a potential bust. Drugs, partying, and he looks like a roid-freak. Also heard he didn’t interview well, which could indicate a me-first player. I think the Bucs pass on me-first guys.
April 15th, 2016 at 1:32 pm
Perfect clip to exemplify the Bucs! I do prefer Horse Feathers though 🙂
April 15th, 2016 at 2:09 pm
Other teams could trade up though. Anything is possible. I think it will be pretty obvious who the Bucs want by then. A team may want that player and trade ahead of us to get it.
Either way, I say sit pat.
April 15th, 2016 at 2:38 pm
SB w Jameis
I thought I felt a lil different the other night lol!! That’s dope you all got together. Hope you all had a great time and thanks for drinking one for me!!
And I love it, dude calls me out about Ramsey, and 813 comes in like no. And lays out basically the exact argument I was about to type out. Thanks 813
April 15th, 2016 at 2:43 pm
I don’t understand how anyone could not like the trade made yesterday. The Titans got tons of premium draft picks. And LA got exactly what it needs. They now will be the headline of the draft. Also, they more than likely get a new QB to help get the fan base excited. Its a win win for both teams. LA could never start their 1st season with the QB’s they currently have on their roster. It is LA for God’s sake. And, when they draft Goff in a couple of weeks. They will have the local boy to pull for. Even if he doesn’t produce. It still gets the hype built up for their new beginning in LA.
April 15th, 2016 at 2:44 pm
It was smart. For both teams.
April 15th, 2016 at 5:54 pm
I hope we don’t get Bosa. I would prefer Noah Spence.
April 16th, 2016 at 10:24 am
yes it was Joe
April 16th, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Forget this crap about people wanting to trade up for our spot. We’re at 9, not the top 5. Also, the DE position is incredibly deep. We would be dumb to draft a DE in the first round when there are 4-5 guys that we could get in the second round for less money and same talent. Let’s be real, if for some crazy reason Ramsey falls to us we must take him (oh, and he has ball skill, that’s to whoever above said he doesn’t, smh). IF no Ramsey, which I betting he won’t be VHIII is a must draft. I assure you all its a huge mistake if we miss on either one of these guys for a DE talent that we can get later. Oh, and as far as Bosa goes, I love the mans hustle and I think he’ll be better than what most of you say, but definitely not the guy for us. Hopefully the dumba$$ cowboys draft him so he doesn’t have to be one our minds.