Josh Norman Finds A Home; Bucs Move On
April 22nd, 2016
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So now Josh Norman and Kurt Cousins can scream, “You like that!” at each other.
Norman is now a Redskins cornerback with $50 million guaranteed in his pocket.
Per ProFootballTalk.com, the Saints made a late push to sign Norman but lost out. Pretty darn interesting that Sean Payton, with all his salary cap issues — and after watching all that film on the Panthers’ secondary — was eager to sign Norman.
Yes, the Bucs were sniffing hard, no doubt interested in paying Norman more like $11 or $12 million a year, not the outrageous windfall he scored.
Good for Norman. Joe’s always happy for players who negotiate well. In this case, Norman moved to the NFC East champs, and he likely scored at least $10 million more guaranteed than the Panthers were going to cough up.
The Bucs’ interest after signing Brent Grimes big bucks could be a clue to just how much the Jason Licht regime, with Lovie Smith out of the way, values cornerbacks.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:19 pm
Going to a much worse defense, we’ll see how much he earns all that money. But good for him getting paid, glad he won’t be on the Panthers anymore.
Can’t wait to hear the reports of how many INTs he has against Cousins during training camp.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:19 pm
Redskins always take the bait. Good. I’m glad the Bucs werent willing to spend that much
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:21 pm
Another bust to add to the Skins collection. Will be fun to watch!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:23 pm
With every year escalating the salary cap we’re going to start really freaking out when we see the increase in salaries through the years how outrageous is it that these athletes get as much as they do and it just goes to show how profitable the NFL really is
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:26 pm
OBJ, DEZ, Cruz licking their fingers right now! Fresh meat!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:37 pm
Too Much for him…
Bucs Secondary is not as bad as people think..
Wait and see…Verner will have a great year..
LvD. And Kwon will be killing it…
Bucs just need a strong edge guy..
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Win Win for the Bucs. Josh left the division, Bucs saves the cap.
Wonder if the contract has a ejection clause when they play NYG.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:51 pm
LOL @ ejection clause..
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:54 pm
Bucs never had a chance, no elite player wants to join a last place team
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:54 pm
Signing Grimes and trying to sign Norman surely looks like their not high on Hargreaves at #9
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:05 pm
^^^ had nothing to do what that… smackoff
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:05 pm
*with
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:06 pm
I don’t believe that for a second Tony. I think we were too smart to pay him that kind of money.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:06 pm
Its not like the Skins were much better than us. He just wanted to be paid, he didnt care about winning.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:18 pm
Norma was certainky out of our price range. But i also doubt Noman had much interest in joining the bucs. The skins won their division. Sonething the bucs havent done in over a decade. So it isn’t a bad “wins matter” choice either. For the teams with cap room, the skins are the closest to a good team.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:35 pm
Glad we didn’t spend that kind of dough on him. Even happier he isn’t with the Saints. He terrorised us last year.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:49 pm
Cheaper to draft a corner or 2 and let them develop. Winning teams develop players in house and keep them together as long as possible. Maybe Licht won’t find a dominant CB in the draft, but I have faith we’ll add someone that we’ll be happy with, that will be around for awhile and won’t cost 10% of the friggin’ cap.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:53 pm
Okay let’s get something straight 1. The skins barlel won their division I bet top dollar they will not do it again 2. Norman was looking for a big payday not a great team 3. I bet he wanted to come to Tampa but the skins were so stupid they over paid him and now if he sucks they are stuck with him
I say that to say this josh was a man wanting to get paid like an elite player he got what he wanted now he gotta prove it so stop this crap about Norman wanted to go to the skins because they won the division crap cause I promise you this he going to wish he either stayed in Carolina or singed with Tampa a year from now
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:55 pm
Screw Norman, skins will regret giving him that kind of money, you won’t pay your quarterback but you’ll give a 2nd tier corner that kind of money!? That’s surely gonna cause internal issues with the players. What a dumpster fire organization.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:55 pm
Josh Morman can suck it. He’s going down. We’ve got Jameis and Jameis is the man.
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:59 pm
Very true and succinct Sam.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:06 pm
“Bucs never had a chance, no elite player wants to join a last place team”
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Have you ever actually paid attention to football before, or is this your first year? No elite player wants to play for a last place team? Do I need to make a list for you? For the right price, most of these guys would play for an Arena league team! Please tell me you were joking.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:09 pm
This all boils down to a great thing for the Bucs. He’s out of the division, and off the best team in the division. I don’t know how much it’s going to hurt Carolina, but it certainly won’t help them. Then he goes to an organization that will not challenge for a championship. In two years, us playing Washington will be a automatic W. We didn’t commit big dollars to a zone corner who has yet to prove he can be a lock down man corner.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:56 pm
OBJ vs J No. Twice a year. Should be great theater.
April 22nd, 2016 at 11:22 pm
the guy sucks!had one good year and got over paid! come on draft.
April 22nd, 2016 at 11:57 pm
Who is the “president” of Washington? Yeah, Bruce Allen, the same idiot who paid Todd Stussier a six-year, $20 million contract.
April 23rd, 2016 at 12:31 am
So the Bucs have a bunch of unused cap space going forward, you know because having unused cap space = winning the offseason, like this year when we had tons of cap space and turned it into some 2nd tier 30+ year olds.
April 23rd, 2016 at 12:45 am
You guys have to check out ‘Trailer Park Boys’ Season ten!
April 23rd, 2016 at 2:12 am
I’m more of a ‘Angry Boys” Chris Lilly fan myself.
April 23rd, 2016 at 2:26 am
I just want to win, maybe even get a wild card. I don’t care how they do it, who they get to do it, or how much it costs. Just win baby.
April 23rd, 2016 at 4:44 am
Signing a soon-to-be 29 year old one-and-a-half-year wonder with a big mouth who’s not a team player, to a contract worth $75 million with $50 million guaranteed, would’ve split the Bucs locker room and caused a domino effect and would’ve built the opposite kind of culture that Licht & Koetter want to establish on this team. I’m glad Dan Snyder overpaid…again. Can anyone say Albert Haynesworth?
April 23rd, 2016 at 4:54 am
Plus giving 10% of the salary cap to a single player is outrageous unless it’s for an established franchise QB. Talk about a recipe for diluting the talent level on your team and creating future salary cap hell. No thanks.
April 23rd, 2016 at 5:57 am
All the teams w 15 mil corners were in the playoffs last year
April 23rd, 2016 at 6:09 am
🙁
April 23rd, 2016 at 7:31 am
We aren’t quite ready for top shelf free agents yet.
I feel like we need two more good drafts.
Sorta like when we added joe j and km.we just don’t have enough young core talent at this time.
April 23rd, 2016 at 7:39 am
Heard from pft that Hargreaves failed his combine drug test….yyyouch. I wasn’t high in him to begin with but now he’s on my “too stupid (hello, UF) to draft” list.
April 23rd, 2016 at 7:40 am
“It’s a tough league in which to win.” I guess nobody believed him at the time because it seemed like Coach Gruden used to say that at every available opportunity and on any platform he was given. We know the market for Josh Norman didn’t suggest he should get a 5 yr/$75M/$51M deal, but it’s not always about what the market says you should get. It’s about what you negotiate. Is he worth it? Washington thinks he is and that’s all that matters.
Not only that, but in a league in which there’s no such thing as an easy win, every team that can has no choice but to at least kick the proverbial tires of a top tier player when he becomes available, regardless of the circumstances. In the case of josh Norman, yes, He was signed based on one REALLY good year. Yes, his ability was often overshadowed by the his verbal (and sometimes physical) disputes with opposing receivers. In spite of all that, show me another corner that plays with that edge. I’m not saying it justifies the contract, but Josh Norman is the kind of player that helps teams win in this league. Congratulations to him and the Washington redskins.
April 23rd, 2016 at 7:46 am
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April 23rd, 2016 at 10:41 am
Good for Norman. Joe’s always happy for players who negotiate well
Joe as one of the blog’s rare progressives I’m always for the working man..much to the consternation of some here.
And I definitely support the concept of not begrudging the players the millions because they would simply be going to the top 1%…billionaire owners,..I’d rather see it in the players pockets.
But this is not about the players money. That should be argued during the CBA. I have no problem with the players going to the mat in negotiations raising that cap.
But that’s not the issue here. The many millions of dollars became mind boggling and incomprehensible to normal human long ago.
FlBoyinDallas has nailed it!!! Forget talking about millions…that’s irrelevant in a billion dollar game…what really counts is the % of the cap you eat up each year.
This is the REAL reason the Panthers let Norman go. They have too many other good players due big paydays to tie up all that money in Norman.
April 23rd, 2016 at 10:45 am
We dodged a bullet there.
April 23rd, 2016 at 4:14 pm
Bruce Allen loves to overpay Panthers. In 2004 he gave Todd Stussie a six year $20 Million contract. Two years later Stussie is a back up for the Rams making $800K.
April 23rd, 2016 at 4:23 pm
People crack me up talking about players wanting to get paid.
OF COURSE THEY DO ITS A JOB NOT A GAME.
Plus its free agency! Go ahead and pick out all those players (every year) that went to teams that don’t win, the highest bidder, and criticize them as well.
Just because it happened later in free agency doesn’t mean that it still wasn’t part of free agency lolol.
The logic is unbelievable, there are NO GUARANTEES in football other than the guarantees put in ink on that contract. Not Wins, Not Longevity, Not Health. You work to make the most money you can not only for you but for those you support while you can. And just because it happens to be a game we fans get to watch does not mean that these men play just to play. they play cause it’s a job first and foremost.
And don’t come out naming players who took pay cuts because those players only did so after they received their big pay days the first time around and many after that pay day came a few times over.
So yes sure it was a lot of money and maybe it wasn’t the best fit for us in terms of the money he wanted but don’t sit there and act like he’s any less of a man or player because he looked out for his when that’s practically every free player during free agency unless they’ve already gotten their big paydays prior.
April 23rd, 2016 at 5:39 pm
This was huge for us, it really hurt the panthers to lose him. We are on the rise and the panthers are on the hurt right now. Bucs make the playoffs this year baby!!!!!
April 23rd, 2016 at 9:08 pm
This is a huge win for us! He’s out of the NFC south