It’s Safety To Start For Fourth-Rounder Smith
April 30th, 2016
Perhaps Joe was too hasty putting Alterraun Verner on cut watch earlier today.
After today’s NFL Draft for the Bucs concluded in the sixth round, both general manager Jason Licht and Dirk Koetter fielded questions from Joe and assembled media.
Licht and Koetter each said fourth-round pick Ryan Smith, a cornerback out of North Carolina Central, will be a safety for the Bucs, at least to start his career.
Licht noted Smith played some corner in college and the Bucs peg him at that position, though Licht said Smith’s versatility is important.
Sleep well, or at least better, Alterruan.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:07 pm
I was on that boat too, Joe
April 30th, 2016 at 6:08 pm
Like this draft a lot more if Smith is a safety he’s already the best safety we have lol
April 30th, 2016 at 6:12 pm
Maybe the second coming of Dwight smith? Small school corner turns into ball-hawking safety.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:13 pm
Boy got some serious wheels.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:15 pm
Was happy with picks 1-2. Acha to could at least have gone in the 3rd, glennpn not being traded is a gaff of historic proportions. 7 teams would have traded at least a 4th months ago. TAKE IT. and don’t trade up for Aguayo or do trade up but get vonn bell. That would have given us 3 4ths. At least. With those we could get a wr and an extra De. I’m sick
April 30th, 2016 at 6:15 pm
Really hoping RB Keith Marshall and WR Keyarris Garrett get to be UDFA they would both look good as BUCS
April 30th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Ugh Marshall just got picked
April 30th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Aguayo* could have gone in the 3rd
April 30th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
This was a really good draft…….in particular…..even with two DEs picked with the first two picks in round 2….Licht held, didn’t trade up and got our guy…..many thought we should trade down in the first and pick him there….so we got Hargreaves & Spence.
If fans can shake off the price for Aguayo and accept that he is likely our kicker for years….that pick works too.
The development players…especially Smith & Caleb…..they look really good.
And….most everybody wanted a FB….especially me, I’ve been calling for us to use the FB more in our offense and I think that’s going to happen.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:16 pm
I and a few others said it at the time the draft pick was made. I pointed out tarnard jackson and tandy took the same route. Where are all the arm chair gms that called this a wasted pick as soon as it happened while I pleaded for thim to chill? Funny nothing but crickets.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:18 pm
In his conference call he stated in so many words his entire family is depending on him. Ima go out on a limb right now and say he will be this years version of last season’s Kwon Alexander.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:23 pm
lol Told y’all he was going back to his natural position.
April 30th, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Let’s give Jeremy Cash a call. He could really work in our new scheme as a run defending box saftey or hybrid linebacker type
April 30th, 2016 at 6:36 pm
Where are the arm chair gms like demboyzfromdabay?
April 30th, 2016 at 6:48 pm
Nole..I am going to agree with you…
April 30th, 2016 at 7:10 pm
Jolly, the most we ever had was 2 4ths. We used our 3rd in the 2nd on Aguayo.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:15 pm
Buccane don’t waste anymore energy explaining that to these numbskulls. Roberto will kick a game winner next season and everyone will love him.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:17 pm
With any luck, all the arm chair GM’s are finished crying and letting the REAL GM run this team now. Maybe alot of them changed teams.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:21 pm
And @813 congrats my dude im glad he a Bucc not salty at all. Far as im concern now he the baddeset CB to go in the draft. You know who in talkin. Not just yours,he all our baby now.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Joe……you should write a piece explaining that we only gave up the 4th we acquired from Chicago from trading down in the first. If we waited until the 3rd to pick the kicker we would have had 1 more 4th round pick. One more tard that mentions how much we gave up I am going to have my 5 year old daughter try to explain it.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:28 pm
Reminds me of Tanard Jackson, except this guy can run a little better. Hopefully he doesn’t have the problems Jackson had though.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Can he play DT?
April 30th, 2016 at 7:40 pm
Bucfan20: arm chair GM’s? We didn’t address our defensive line, but one pick. We got no wr help. We got banged up wr’s and aging wr’s. Explain to me outside of those first 2 picks, how else did we improve again? You can’t. Also while your praising your sissy, settling for 3 points kicker, tell me how did that work for the raiders again? He’s been on their team for 10+ years and now let’s see, just how successful have the raiders are again? You see, while you mock is supposed arm chair GM’s and all, I think you fail to see, just how much we care about the bucs. You see, you just keep settling for mediocrity and you just keep praising the same old tired stay in the same mold, while we real fans actually keep caring about our bucs winning. Tired of you guys acting like we’re complaining. We want our team to win. Explain to me, why wouldn’t we really work on getting our d-line to get after the qb? Love the CB, we needed that too. Why not add a wr? We needed some depth there.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:44 pm
I am essentially ok with the picks we made.
****But am I the only one who sees the gaping f**king hole on our D-Line, especially at DT?!!!!!
-Even at DE, is Spence expected to do anything year 1?
– We have three injury prone DTs on the roster, we have a nothing but unproven and mostly undersized DEs.
I want to know why any decent OC in the NFL wouldn’t run right at this defense and pound them all f**king day???
I see a very weak defense. Hope I’m wrong…
April 30th, 2016 at 7:46 pm
Hey Mike: figure it out. You had a late second pick. You guys keep talking about that extra pick we got from the Bears. Hello, he got picked in the second round. That is a waste of a pick there. It’s not about that pick from the 3rd round moved up to the second. It’s about the pick of kicker there when you have so many other needs. Dallas had the best kicking percentage last year. What was their record again?
April 30th, 2016 at 7:47 pm
I agree who is gonna play wr for this team SMH
April 30th, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Elio T I’ll continue saying after 2014 no one here was complaining about our D line with the exception of M Johnson. The interior was not and is not an issue with this team.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Rswag only part you left out was they didnt have a QB. Good try sport😉.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:53 pm
Still some UDFA talent out there LUVBUCS you’re good bout putting available prospects throughout the draft make a UDFA list my main wish list player is S Jeremy Cash and WR Keyarris Garrett
April 30th, 2016 at 7:55 pm
Nole buc: who didn’t have qb?
April 30th, 2016 at 7:55 pm
If the WRs available weren’t projected to be better than the current WRs, then why would they draft them? Obviously they didnt see a wr worth taking. Sure we coud hve taken any WR just to say we did it. But why the hell would we do that when there are players on the bucs board they they feel worthy of the pick. I feel like Licht and friends put a lot more effort into drafting players than you or I. I have poinded the table for us to draft a WR. But quite frankly i could not tell you if any WR past the 3rd round is better than adam Humpheries and kenny bell. I do know that we needed a reliable kicker. We needed pass rush help (bond) we needed safety help (smith) we need a developmental OT, and we need a FB. So to second a guess a guy who’s job it is to evaluate and decide who to pick. I am going to trust him until he has proven to me he is a hack. Based on past drafts i will give licht some credit and not scutinize every little pick. If they all turn out to be busts then i will lose my trust in licht. But as it is now, Licht has earned some slack.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:56 pm
And the same can be said about Janikowski and the Raiders. People say where has his dependable leg gotten them??? My qeustion to you all is where was the QB???
April 30th, 2016 at 7:56 pm
If healthy our WRs are fine, 2nd year in this offense with an improving QB and OL plus a better scheme on defense will provide a better atmosphere for our growing WR corps, don’t forget Roddy is still out there
April 30th, 2016 at 7:56 pm
Call me a Arm Chair GM all you want but the fact of the matter is this, Last year our D was giving away wins forcing our kicker to try and win us games. If we had a solid D we wouldn’t need to worry about a kicker. Does any remember the statement Offense wins games while Defense wins Championships?! At no point did they say kickers.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Oh and by the way we let 5 players from last years defense go but only picked up older players. Let that sink in.
April 30th, 2016 at 7:57 pm
its done, get over it
April 30th, 2016 at 7:58 pm
@joe
You should do a free agent tracker. Not so much a write up on them unless you find one interesting but just a list that updates. Just a thought. We get all the other info here
April 30th, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Nole Buc: haha…. You think a qb was all the raiders needed yet? Haha….ok, nice to know a qb and kicker was all they needed. Glad you’re not the GM of the Bucs.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Getting Spence in the 2nd alone makes this a successful draft, and in a 10 year kicker and a dynamic FB, that’s 3 starters there, now if VH3 is as good as most so called experts think he is, this has a chance to be another grand slam draft, if that OT turns into a future contributor and Ryan Smith shores up the safety position we are looking at 10 years of playoff appearances GO BUCS
April 30th, 2016 at 8:08 pm
Our rush defense was one of the best in the NFL last season. I have no issue aith our ability to stop the run with out current lot. What we needed was help in pass rushing. And we drafted 2 pass rush specialists. Not sure what else you could ask for…
GMC, akeem spence, and clinton mcdonald is a good rotation at DT. I am sure we will add more before during and after training camp. Teams look at what they have after the draft and make moves accordingly to fill out the rest of the team needs. No team fills all of their “holes” in the draft.
At DE we have rookies Noah spence and bond. Bond is a situational pass rusher like bruce irvin. He is help for the d line. Then we have robert ayers, jack smith, william gholston, and the sackless johnson.
6 DEs. Plus Gholston and Ayers can slide inside when needed. We do need to add more depth at DT. But like i said we can’t fill all of the holes in the draft. Not snough picks and not enough players worthy of being picked.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:09 pm
Good point Nole on Sat. When Romo went down, so did the Dallas season. I get that some people are unhappy with the trade up for the kicker but at some point you simply need to accept what licht has done and move on…. Lets see in 2 or 3 years how this draft turned out and see how many of these mid to late round picks taken by teams actually are still on nFL rosters and contributing. The NFL draft after all the hype is removed is essentially a crap shoot, the GMs do their homework and take a stab at someone and hope they pan out. If they can nail picks at the same rate as a good MLB batting average in the later rounds (1 in 3 picks actually on the roster and contributing) well that is par for the course if you look at most NFL rosters, anything better than that is gravy….
Yes the FSU kicker went a tad early IMHO but Licht obviously thought that someone like NE was going to grab the kid so he acted. The kid will contribute immediately and not just with FGs and extra points but also in the field position battle where the Bucs kickers have struggled recently. Pinning a team back inside the 20 will lead to less TD/FG drives for the opponent than giving them the ball at the 30, 35 or 40 yard line and that is a fact as well as the fact that the Bucs always seemed to let opponents start with great field position after a kickoff last season….
April 30th, 2016 at 8:10 pm
Goodness, the Bucs have signed like what 13 UDFA?? Some of them look really [promising…
April 30th, 2016 at 8:20 pm
@LifeofABucFan
Where do you see that at?
April 30th, 2016 at 8:20 pm
Arm chair gms, it was not Janikowski’s fault that the raiders picked players like Jamarcus Russell and wideouts just because they were fast but couldn’t actually play wide receiver. A gm has to acquire the right talent. Janikowski as an individual was an excellent pick just like Agauyo will prove to be. Are you so clueless to think if the raiders had picked a position player rather than Janikowski then that team would have been a contender during their years of futility? If you think that then you are the ultimate arm chair gm.
We knew defense was a major concern coming into the offseason and all the bucs have done is sign a pro bowl cb, a defensive end in ayers, a veteran linebacker who has been very productive his entire career and another cb that could be depth and competition. Then we move to the draft and the bucs pick the best cover corner according to experts, they pick one of the better DEs, we pick a safety which they needed and they picked a linebacker for depth. By my count, they drafted every position on the defense yet some of you arm chair gms are still not satisfied? By my count they have added 8 players they feel has upgraded their team and that is not good enough. Keep in mind arm chair gms, the UDFA have not signed and then there are always cuts made by other teams where the bucs can improve. Calm the f down. You sound ridiculous.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:22 pm
It’s all over Twitter as they are being signed…looks like all small schools..William and mary has one now a Buc…
April 30th, 2016 at 8:23 pm
I can’t post links here to the other website..but all the new Bucs just signed within the hour are there listed and their stats…
April 30th, 2016 at 8:24 pm
DaVonte Lambert is 6-2, 282 defensive end from Auburn. 48 tackles, 9.5 TFL in two seasons with Tigers
That’s the last one so far…
April 30th, 2016 at 8:25 pm
@TIny Tim
Crappy decisions lead to crappy teams. Yes Al Davis made bad picks and the Raiders suffered for years. The Bucs have made bad decisions and they have suffered for years (Coaching and Players). Picking the kicker is my only issue when you could have had a more talented DT or DE and still gotten the kicker. When everyone is singing the praises of mike mayock and he is left speechless on moving up to draft a kicker in the second round when you need more legitimate depth. Yeah bad decision.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:27 pm
LB Luke Rhodes, William & Mary’
TE Kivon Cartwright, Colorado State
T Leonard Wester, Missouri,
WR Roman Namdar, Mount Union
and 10 more..
April 30th, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Thanks Life for that tidbit. And I was lukewarm on last years draft and was dead wrong so……….I think it’s only fair I withhold judgement this yr.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:29 pm
@LifeOfABucFan
Thanks for the info!
April 30th, 2016 at 8:33 pm
@ Reezy
Kicker was a need to or do you not remember last year? Also, licht has not made bad decisions when it comes to the draft. His record in the draft speaks for itself. As for Mayock, he would not have picked Winston and I believe he had a problem with Cam Newton as well.. Lets not forget that he said Mark Barron’s floor was pro bowl and his ceiling was all pro. Excuse me if I do not put much stock in his assessments.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:35 pm
@Tiny Tim
I never said it wasn’t a need just not needed at the time. As for Mike Mayock he does pretty well on his picks for Talent. Mark Barron in the right system has worked.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Aguayo Was a need. He was simply taken Too early in most of our eyes. I was upset after such a good One and Two round when I heard of this at first. However 24 hours later I can see the rationale. IF he is a top 5 kicker for the next decade then it’s a homerun. If he is with us for two decades like Janikowski or Jason Hanson then Awesome. If not…….well….
April 30th, 2016 at 8:45 pm
@Nole on Sat:
The interior is an issue. We have 3 injury prone DTs, that’s it.
Explain to me how that’s not an issue.
We can’t pick up anyone off the scrap heap that is worth a damn.
I’m concerned.
April 30th, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Already a lot of UDFAs signed nothing special for the BUCS yet
April 30th, 2016 at 8:52 pm
I agree SB with Jameis; Aguayo was a big need and yes he was taken too early but Licht pulled the trigger as he must have suspected that someone else was going to grab Aguayo before the Bucs would go to the podium in round 3. Field position is a big part of the game; how many times did the Bucs set up their opponent on the plus side of the 30 yard line last season? Granted a lot of the probs were associated with Lovies special teams coach O’Dea who is long gone but this kid from FSU can pin teams inside of the 20 and that change in field position alone should lower the % of opposing drives that result in a FG/TD. The fact that he is likely to be automatic inside of the 40-45 yard line is a plus as well. This could turn into a high value pick so i can not understand why some people are acting like the Bucs just drafted Manziel!
April 30th, 2016 at 9:00 pm
Elio any member of NFL can suffer an injury at any time. Excuse me if I don’t buy the whole injury prone label that accompanies certain players. Thanks Tiny Tim you said a mouth full, all of which I agree with just don’t have the patience to type it as good as you just did. After the mid way point of the second round tell me what DT or DE that would’ve contributed more than Roberto will over next five years??? I’ll be waiting on anyone’s rebuttal.
April 30th, 2016 at 9:04 pm
Who on the roster will win more games for the Buccs outside of Roberto Aguayo with the exception of JW???
April 30th, 2016 at 9:04 pm
UFDA’s are nice to have in camp simply from a numbers point of view but realistically the Bucs will be happy if 2 or 3 of them make the roster. Sometimes a diamond in the rough does not get drafted but in the past would have been drafted when the draft went 12 rounds like it did in the ’80s and early ’90s before it was shortened to 7 rounds….
April 30th, 2016 at 9:11 pm
Kickers score the most points on your team. We just got a guy with a great chance of being the best in history. Even the guys misses are good kicks. I still remeber him missing a 53 yarder by putting it directly over the post. He has never missed from inside 40 and I think he will only get better. Ask the Patriots how important a good kicker is, they would have grabbed him if we didn’t. Love the pick
April 30th, 2016 at 9:14 pm
Why does everyone think the patriots would take a kicker in the 2nd they have one of the best in Gostkowski
April 30th, 2016 at 9:16 pm
@ reezy
Mayock said he was a pro bowl to all pro safety. Barron is neither. He is an average linebacker. Who can forget that Mayock said Gabbert is better than Cam Newton? Again, excuse me if I do not put stock into much he says, but you can if you like. Its your life.
April 30th, 2016 at 9:23 pm
@ Guzzie
I do not know why so many think that but Licht had intel that some team was going to draft Agayo before their third round pick came up. What many do not understand is the bucs probably wanted to draft Agayo in the third and there was no one on their draft board they had higher than him between their third pick and when they did actually picked him. That is why you move up if you feel someone was about to take him. You go get your guy just like they did with Marpet when the arm chair gms were saying last year we could have drafted him in the third round and there was no need to move back into the 2nd and draft a D3 player.
April 30th, 2016 at 9:48 pm
I believe they wanted Aguayo…..period……they planned on taking him with their third round pick……when they picked up the extra 4th round pick they weren’t taking any chances……there may have been more than one team interested so they made their move….
They absolutely have no regrets about that so neither should we.
April 30th, 2016 at 9:52 pm
Stop talking so level-headed TBBF. That is generally frowned upon around here.
I wonder what Pablo would say about the Best Kicker in College History becoming the Best in NFL history as a Buc.
April 30th, 2016 at 10:00 pm
Great coverage of the draft Joe’s. Get some sleep guys, you’ve earned it. Hahaha
April 30th, 2016 at 10:15 pm
For everyone who hates the kicker pick –
How many times will the best player at their position come out in the draft? Did he go high in the draft? Yeah he did but the staff thought we needed a kicker and they felt somebody else was going to snag him before they got the chance. Picks in the draft are like anything else it’s the right price so long as you’re comfortable with it. They had done research into the kid, he wanted to play for the Bucs, and we had a need.
So far in the two previous drafts since Licht has been here we have landed Mike Evans, Charles Sims, Kevin Pamphile, Jameis Winston, Ali Marpet, Donovan Smith, and Kwon Alexander and ASJ. That’s 8 hits in 13 picks so not terrible.
We should be giving these guys running the team right now some credit for their decision making abilities. It’s not like the team is missing on every single draft pick.
April 30th, 2016 at 10:19 pm
The sad part is Reezy and Rswag will be rooting for Aguayo to miss every kick now. I guess Tom Brady didn’t need those game winning kicks in his first two Super Bowls. And one of the posters above was talking about Dallas not having a QB last year, not the raiders. Name me the player that the Raiders should have taken in the first round instead of Janikowski. Only Shaun Alexander had an all pro career. I’m sure he would have kept them contenders!!! Not!!
April 30th, 2016 at 10:24 pm
I’m pretty happy with our draft and I’m confident Kenny Bell will be a player this year DT is a concern but when you factor in Ayers and Gholston play inside on passing downs with Noah and Jack coming from the outside its really not that much of a concern GO BUCS
April 30th, 2016 at 10:27 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo hasn’t heard anyone complain about Roberto….the player…..only the price that was paid. Unlike all other players, there have been negatives. This is a good thing because Pablo would consider any criticism of Aguayo to be racist.
Pablo is thinking about offering Roberto free table dances until he misses a kick inside 40 yards….but Pablo doesn’t want to chance having to dance for free that long”
April 30th, 2016 at 10:32 pm
I noticed this very long list of UDFAs……..there were no kickers….
I wonder how Murray & Barth will feel competing in camp?
April 30th, 2016 at 10:35 pm
Guys, come on. We got NOAH SPENCE in the 2ND ROUND!!! No more complaints. When u start to worry about the later rounds (which I was too) just remember that Licht has GIANT BRASS B@LLS!! WE GOT NOAH SPENCE IN THE 2ND ROUND!!
April 30th, 2016 at 10:40 pm
Hey joe(s)… How does it feel to have so many armchair gm’s reading your page? I imagine the joes have to be getting a kick out of some of the crap they read 😂
April 30th, 2016 at 10:44 pm
You kno noswag your thought process must not go very deep into the gray matter that is supposed to be your brain. You keep whining and crying about the same thing. You sound just like the so called realist. The 2 things that lost us the games last year were cornerbacks and kicking game. I mean of course lack of scoring did but let’s talk about what you keep crying about. First of all if you paid attention to the moves made. Ayers gives us a bandaid for the line and Spence now gives us his protege. Grimes Hargreaves and Smith were needs and they filled them. You sit back in your sofa thinking you know what the team needs but you don’t even work for the team let alone you’re not the GM or coach. What do you know? Did you not hear them say they were happy with the current receivers? So what makes you think they were going to draft one? Do you not know how important a kicker is for a team? Offenses don’t always score tds. Licht drafted this kid to give us stability at that pisition. Do you know how many kickers we’ve had in the last 5 years? Posters like you whine and cry and cry and whine are so crazy. There’s nothing you can do to change it sowhy not go be a fan of another team who got fhe players you wanted? Leave us alone with all your moaning.
April 30th, 2016 at 10:46 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
April 30th, 2016 at 10:32 pm
I noticed this very long list of UDFAs……..there were no kickers….
I wonder how Murray & Barth will feel competing in camp?
………….
They feel like they are asking their agents to get feelers.
April 30th, 2016 at 11:04 pm
Eliot
We ranked top 10 in run defense last year and we are bringing everyone back what are you talking about .as well as ghoston could move over to DT at 290 how are we thin ???
April 30th, 2016 at 11:08 pm
But it must be a bad pick! It’s a Kicker! It HAS to be a bad pick! The experts on JBF say its a bad pick! It MUST be a bad pick. We missed out on all of the sure fire HOF’ers. The Raiders would have won the Super Bowl if they took Shaun Alexander instead of Janikowski! DEAN SCREAM!!
April 30th, 2016 at 11:21 pm
The only argument that can be made about the Aguayo trade is Braxton Miller. Best case you stay and grab Miller(3), Billings(4) and Aguayo(4). That is assuming they were still available.
I wonder why they drafted Smith over Killebrew? The name alone is worth the draft pick.
May 1st, 2016 at 12:20 am
How many games did we lose the past two years cause of a missed field goal at some point in game that would have made a difference.
I recall our kicker missing like 3 or 4 in one game only…
RSWAG: HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE A GM JOB ALREADY!!!! its obvious you have more intel and track record than Bucs GM and scouting people.
You trust they know more than the above average fan, JL shows he knows his stuff when they before he tell Hartgraves agent w will trade back and get him than..that tells me he has good idea who will be taking who and maybe he knew the KICKER ROBERTO would be selected.
May 1st, 2016 at 1:47 am
Drafting a kicker in the 2nd rd is a bad move. You can get a good one later. They all seem to have their struggles. It’s just a rule like in baseball you don’t trade a young promising left hand pitcher. I’ve reviewed 3 sites for draft grades and the best grade for the pick was a d-. We could have had 2 players instead of that kicker like reed and pharaoh cooper or Boyd and billings. This gm is feeling heat to win next year so he made a move to try to steal a game or 2 with a kicker. In truth, our team would have been better with a dt and wr prospect.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:43 am
Lol bet the Vikings wish they would of drafted a kicker in the 2nd round last year 😉
May 1st, 2016 at 5:52 am
what Mtbucsfan said! Team got better with this draft. Let’s see how are defense responds. I bet we’ll have a better first game than last year… geeeeez
May 1st, 2016 at 6:02 am
The Bucs would have been 8-8 with a decent kicker last season. They would have been a wildcard team with the coaching staff we have right now. They will be at the very least competitive in 2016. Their draft was graded slightly better than the other teams in the division. They might not win the division, but they won’t be the doormat any time soon. This is a team on the rise.
May 1st, 2016 at 8:30 am
Brentbull talking about draft grades thats giving out before players put on pads lol. Ok you can do that if you like. Ive seen the bucs under dominick get As for his drafts 4+ or so years ago while seattle was getting Ds for their picks (charles davis brought up seattle during the broadcast on saturday) but we see who had the better drafts. If you are going to base your opinions off immediate draft grades then you seriously have no clue. I’m sorry but you seriously have no clue.
May 1st, 2016 at 8:40 am
Hey tiny terd why don’t u go get a life instead of trying to piss everyone off around here. This is why i dont even like to post my opinion much because of trolls like you that will stand by the bucs no matter what horrible moves they make. I want to see them make the right decisions and do what’s best for the team. I can say what i want after spending thousands of money of memorabilia, jerseys and tickets for almost 20,years and watching stink it up for the last 12 years or so.
no one’s trying to play “arm chair gm” lol. I just gave my opinion on the bucs passing on all the good safety’s, WR’so and DT’s that were still on the board. I love the first two picks and I’m OK with getting a kicker even though I think he would of been there still wen we had our pick in the third.
And im also OK with the Smith pick if he converts to safety cause that’s where we need help not CB. I’ve stood behind Licht on every decision he’s made so far so don’t act like you know me, cause I’m not one of these goons that b*itch about every single move the bucs make cause I have always supported them and what they do.
May 1st, 2016 at 8:45 am
@TINY TERD
Who the f*@# are you to say where right or wrong? Like your opinion is any better then ours.
May 1st, 2016 at 8:57 am
@demboyz
You are an idiot. You do not know its a bad decision. They have not played a game yet. I have only pissed off idiots such as yourself. They did pick a safety or because you are an idiot you missed it. I get it…..they picked a safety in the 4th round instead of the 2nd which means they are wrong because your expert scouting says so. Excuse me if i don’t want to buy what you are selling because you are an idiot. And no, I do not praise everything the bucs do, but I atleast wait until things play out before I make absolute judgements……hey everybody, demboyz says the bucs made a bad move before the players put on pads so it must be true lol. You are a bigger joke than I thought.
May 1st, 2016 at 8:57 am
We still didn’t a dress the very depth @ DT or WR. Instead we drafted a LB and a RT. This was not he greatest draft. We left alot of holes.on our roster un-adressed. Out of all,those talented DT’s that u still could of got in the 4 or 5the rnd we didnt get any. So much for helping GMC with the doubpe teams. And we wonder wby he gets injured every year. Hes to busy fighting off double and sometimes triple teams. That was a perfect opportunity to get someone to eat up the dble teams for GMC and we failed to do so. and I looked at the UDFA list for the bucs, Not very amused either. We could of done little bit better than this imo. I hold Licht at a high standard after last years draft.
May 1st, 2016 at 9:05 am
@ demidiotsfromdabay
I do not have a right or wrong opinion. You are a bigger idiot than I thought because you see me as trying to be right. What I’m saying is just to chill 12 hours after the pick was made. Nothing you or I can say will have any bearing on how those players will perform on the field. To call the moves bad is idiotic on your part. If you notice, i have not called the moves good or bad. You know why????? They have not even put on pads idiots. My opinion is to shut the h3ll up and wait until it plays out arm chair gm
May 1st, 2016 at 9:19 am
Arm chair gm
Its your opinion that the bucs need wrs and DEs. They may feel that because gholson and ayers can play inside, they are good there. They may feel with kenny bell coming back and he runs a 4.3 that they are good or as good as they could have been if they drafted an unknown commodity at wr. But hey, you know it all and due to your expert analysis and your multiple super bowl rings, you must be right. After all, you are the arm chair gm and we all know the arm chair gm could win the super bowl every year with their expert moves and scouting lol.
May 1st, 2016 at 9:21 am
^^^^^DTs
May 1st, 2016 at 9:53 am
Wait there were multiple DTs in the 4th and 5th rounds that would take the double teams off of GMC? So there are DTs in the 5th better than GMC?! That would cause o lines to double team the rookie instead of GMC. Well damn i must have missed all of those automatic all pro DTs just waiting for us in the 5th round.
To be frank, none of the 5th round DTs would be ahead of GMC, spence, mcdonald, or Gholston for playing time at DT. Im sorry if you felt like 1 of them might have been a steal, and you could be right. But it highly unlikely. We have a solid 3 man DT geoup right now. Yes we need depth. But you can’t fill every hole you have with 5th round players. Those guys just arent expected to have big impacts. Sure it would have been nice to add depth somewhere in the draft at DT, but the peoples who’s livelihood is on the line didnt think it was the right pick.and i am fine with that. Licht has shown to be pretty good at these drafts. Lets give his picks a chance before go calling Licht an idiot or calls to fire him. That stuff is just absurd.
May 1st, 2016 at 10:19 am
The so called experts arm chair GM’s on JBF last year also said Winston was a bad pick I do recall. I remember that D Smith was called a bad pick and the A Marpet was a reach. We could of got him in a later round didn’t we move up and “waste” another draft pick on him. How did all that work out. I will wait and see before I judge.
May 1st, 2016 at 10:22 am
What Trubucfan just said.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:07 am
I love the kicker pick, even though this article is ABOUT THE CB!!!!!!!
I don’t personally believe in the “reaching” myth. If there is a player you must have, you take him.
People can theorize all they want about him being there in round 3 for us…but every team knew we needed a kicker. Someone could have jumped ahead of us.
The rest of the picks were quiet ones…but I suspect Licht nailed at least 2 future starters out of them…and one of them may well be a historically popular draft pick my next year (FB).
We won’t know for a bit, but I suspect this draft will go down as one of, if not THE, best drafts in Bucs history.
May 1st, 2016 at 11:08 am
I’ve been a Jason Licht hater, as you all know. So me saying that is unheard of.
May 1st, 2016 at 2:09 pm
I see you Bonzai.