Immense Pressure On Dirk Koetter
April 8th, 2016
Joe communicates with loads of Bucs fans, and there’s a trend developing.
Many fans don’t grasp the immense pressure on first-time head coach Dirk Koetter. He must improve the Bucs immediately. Simple as that.
Many speculated Lovie Smith had three years to right the Bucs’ ship. He only got two. How long does Koetter get?
God help Koetter if he wins six games and comes in last place next season. He’d be on an instant hot seat. Joe can’t even ponder what might happen if the Bucs regress and win just five.
Team Glazer tolerates losing about as well as Joe would handle the third row at a One Direction concert. And good for Team Glazer. Time doesn’t fix bad coaching.
Joe is very optimistic about the 2016 season, but Koetter simply can’t take the Bucs even an inch backwards. The whole point of hiring him was to build on the good offense in place, and rework a defense that Lovie Smith drove into a sewer.
Remember, Jason Licht publicly talked playoffs in 2016, and Tampa Bay signed three win-now, big-money free agents on defense. The offense was top-10 last year.
Koetter seems relaxed and equipped to handle the pressure, but most important, he’s got the franchise quarterback in place. That fact alone doesn’t buy time for any coach not based in Jacksonville.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:08 am
Lovie Smithad and his staff set the bar so low and failed to utilize the talent they had I firmly believe with a good draft from licht and limited injuries this season bucs will challenge for a playoff spot. I don’t think they seriously challenge the big dogs this year but they will not be embarrassed they way they were routinely under the incompetent lovie. The 4 or 5 blowouts lovie lead and the epic failure in Washington were lengendary in league history just not bucs history.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:08 am
for me the number of victory is not the only parameter to take in account.
The whole picture should be look at:
is there an improvment ?
Is there a streak going on ?
is there any circumstances explaining why we haven’t been that succesful ?
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Firing HC Koetter next season would be a big mistake. As we say here “Rome has not been built in one day” and it is the same with the Bucs. We will not be Superbowl contenders next season.
We were playoffs contenders until Kwon Alexander suspension, so we should/will/have to be playoffs contenders next year.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:12 am
Lovie only got 2 years because of his horrible team decisions str8 outta the gate, starting with “not needing” future hall of famer Darrelle Reevis. When you come into Tampa and use “We were 4 n 12” as you excuse for every bad head scratching decision you make, then fast forward 2 seasons and all you can show after 2 years is “we’re 8 n 24″…smh.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:22 am
I saw an article a while ago that was bashing lovie ( for good reasons) and the record of 11-21… That was not a win loss record, but of lovie getting blown out in games!!!!! thats about 1 out of every 3 games the Bucs game was out of hand!!!
So I do not care what the record is this year,,, I want to see the Bucs Competitive into the 4th quarter!! I want to see adjustments during games ( not a year later like the last coach!!!) I want to see this team look like they practiced during training camp and preseason on both sides of the ball!!!! I think this coaching staff will do all these things!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 10:30 am
Howard pictured the Joes in the 3rd row at a One Direction concert.
LOL!
(getting their beers knocked over by groupies, hating the music, it’s a funny mental picture)
April 8th, 2016 at 10:32 am
You’ve got Licht, Dirk Koetter and Jameis Winston all working together.
That, my friends, is an A-Team.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:39 am
What coach is not under immense pressure? Heck, the brass can’t afford to fire another coach and be taken seriously as an organization. Koetter is in for the long haul regardless. You wasted my time on this article.
April 8th, 2016 at 10:51 am
Duh! Every coach is under pressure! I honestly dont see this team being as bad as the past two years. And with Dirk being a first time NFL head coach, some leeway must be given. I just want to see the team playing hard and disciplined evey game! Not pouting at the beginning of the game after one bad penalty. We’ll see, but i think the future is bright. The main thing is that Dirk seems like the type to make adjustments quickly and not stick with something that isn’t working. Hopefully the results will show on the field.
But i am so glad we changed coaches. There would be no excitement for the upcoming season with Lovie in charge. Just the same excuses every week.
April 8th, 2016 at 11:10 am
Realist hit it on the head … getting blown out of games doesn’t hack it. And from what I’ve read about Dirk Koetter, no one puts more pressure on him than Dirk Koetter himself. He’s just as competitive as Jameis is; maybe even more. And again from what I’ve read, so is Mike Smith. Fix our defense and the Bucs will be able to compete with anyone. Go Bucs!
April 8th, 2016 at 11:34 am
Extra Extra -Read all about it! NFL Head Coach is under pressure to win or he will be fired…
April 8th, 2016 at 11:35 am
Cant see this team regressing, even in win-total with a harder schedule.
The coaching additions alone are INSANE. I mean, Todd Monken as OC and working alot with the receivers? that group will be good, ESPECIALLY if any talent is added. M Evans will get his hands screwed back on straight hopefully.
Add in the great job of Warhop and the growth of the Oline. they should be even better. Jameis is in year 2 and should be even better. My biggest concern is Dougie losing some of his fire due to it not being a contract year. Nonetheless he is a good back and Sims is no joke either.
On the defense, adding Jay Hayes is IMMENSE. If anyone can make our Dline great it will be him. More growth for Gholston and Jaq, addition of Ayers, and hopefully some rookie talent. A full year for Kwon (hopefully) and his continued improvement plus the addition of Daryl Smith. Throw in the additions at the CB spot via free agency and hopefully through the draft, and then removing the WORST COACH in Bucs history. This Defense could actually be very good
This team can actually be very scary. Not SB bound yet. but I am absolutely eyeing playoffs. and I would put money on us at 8+ wins
April 8th, 2016 at 11:37 am
All about progress
I expect 6-7 wins in year 1 anything less and it won’t be pretty
April 8th, 2016 at 11:41 am
I wonder if the..fickle minded fans who post here will bash Koetter like they are still bashing Lovie..If he loses? Probably not. And we all know why….Don’t we?? Read into this..what you may….
April 8th, 2016 at 11:44 am
The pressure is on Mr. Koetter. Anything less than 8 wins is unacceptable. Ccourse, you guys will say, Look at our schedule. That’s just another excuse.
And the year after that, it will be injuries..and on and on and on…
BASHERS UNITE!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 11:49 am
mike johnson
the question is next year after koetter goes through the entire season without any embarrassing blowouts, will you finally admit and accept what a total embarrassment Loive was to the team, the city and the NFL.
April 8th, 2016 at 11:54 am
Only 8 win will still make someone a loser after 2 years. No excuses. So how long does Boy wonder get?
April 8th, 2016 at 11:57 am
Anything less than WINNING..is unacceptable. Llaughs and smiles will not get it done. Batter up coach Koetter. And..Good luck. The honeymoon is over.
Who..will we Bash when or IF..the losing starts? No Lovie now!! Its all on the new Regime..HUH?
April 8th, 2016 at 12:03 pm
@mike johnson
Where were you when your hero finished 2-14 in his first year in 2014??? Where were the calls for fairness after he turned this team into a “fiasco” ( that is what his players called it!!)?????
April 8th, 2016 at 12:06 pm
I wonder if this is the same Mike Johnson Lovie paid all those millions to and did absolutely nothing in return. I’d have lovie’s back too
April 8th, 2016 at 12:07 pm
For your Info there Buc fakeist…I Was at the Bucs very 1st football game when you..were in Diapers. As for the other stuff? WINNING IS ALL THAT MATTERS..Vince Lombardi.
Batter up Coach Koetter.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:10 pm
I think a good measuring stick is to win 7 games or more and not get BLOWN out as Lovie did in embarassing fashion several times in 2 years….be competitive have a chance to win or be winning in the 4th quarter and don’t fit square pegs in round holes, firing lovie was the best start to the season so they are up already
April 8th, 2016 at 12:12 pm
Mike…no disrespect but what did you see that Lovie showed he deserves another year…i personally felt that schiano should not have been fired and lovie never hired
April 8th, 2016 at 12:16 pm
@mike johnson
We bash lovie because he was a failure, you bash the current coaches who we have not even seen on a practice field as a head coach yet why?????
And FYI I was in diapers!!! But I have a feeling you will be wearing them again soon!!! And for the record old mike johnson,,,We do though expect more out of elderly Race-baiters—eerrrrr I mean fans!!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 12:29 pm
It’s not just losing, it’s how you lose. It’s second half collapses. It’s allowing nearly every third down to turn into a first. It’s playing guys who are clearly inferior to guys on the bench. It’s bringing down the momentum of a surging team because someone *gasp* cursed.
And for ol’ MJ, 5 of the last 10 Super Bowl teams had mediocre to poor defenses. That’s a fact. You can’t argue it.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:29 pm
I’ve been visiting joebucsfan for a few years and have never posted anything. However, as a black man, I am sick of hearing people allude to Lovie’s firing being about race. Not everything is about race. Love was a poor coach, it’s that simple. He has been exposed. He can no longer ride on the coattail of other great defensive minds. I am thankful for the 2-14 season that brought us a franchise quarterback, though.
Let’s save the race commentary for things that are actually important and relevant to racial equality…Lovie’s firing isn’t one of them.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:30 pm
Hmnnn. there Buc Fakeist, I’ve never mentioned race in any of my postings. Whats up with that? Can’t let the confederacy go huh? And now a great Quote…WINNING ISN’T EVERYTHING..ITS..THE ONLY THING.
The Great..Vincent Lombardi.
Batter up Koetter. No..excuses sir.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:33 pm
Guys the reality is not that the Bucs had it in for Lovie. Lovie was done in by the hiring of Koetter as the OC. The offense was too good versus the defense; Koetter would have been hired by another team to be their HC so the Bucs had to make a move. If we are willing to understand the importance of a consistent offensive coaching staff on a young QB then it is clear why they moved on from Lovie.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:38 pm
Plus, you can always hire a hire a mercenary defensive coordinator. But, great OC’s will get hired away from you. That’s why I prefer having an offensive HC that can call his own plays.
April 8th, 2016 at 12:40 pm
duthsty Rhodes. I agree with that. Schiano should not have been fired. But you see sir. The Buc way is 2 and done. The Glazers don’t know football and want that..instant winner. It might happen with a few other NFl teams. But its not going to happen with our Bucs. Just search our history. You draft 2 straight yrs offensively then tell a coach, Win with what you got on defense. Remember, Our bread and butter has always been Defense. So you fire the next guy after 2 yrs. And now you bring in ye golden boy on chariot and white horse. Koetter will save the day. I hope so…For his sake! Bucs are locked in a cycle like that sci-fi movie with tom cruise. They keep waking up repeating the SOS!
April 8th, 2016 at 1:33 pm
The sky is the limit for this years Bucs. I expect the team will be reaching for it.
April 8th, 2016 at 1:48 pm
@Love and WarrickDunn – I agree but like some have already posted here I think our future DC is already on the staff and just waiting to be promoted.
@Buccfan37 – I think in the future the sky is indeed the limit but for this coming season I’ll be happy with 8-8.
April 8th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
Scurvy Dogs, well said…..regardless of what you physically look like if you are good at something AWESOME….but if you suck at something you get what you get and my main padt for thinking lovie was a lousy HC was he could not adapt at least defensively and picked some TURRIBLE players to run his scheme…i feel in my opinion that koetter to me seems like the first year of raheem someone with a new way of doing things and a change for the best
April 8th, 2016 at 2:05 pm
His contract is guaranteed, and if he doesn’t produce wins quickly the owner boy’s call him on the phone and fire him. Then he gets another job coordinating an offense after his contract is up. Sign me up for this pressure you speak of.
April 8th, 2016 at 2:07 pm
@Scurvy Dogs
I stand up and applaud you sir!!! For a 1st post, that was one of the most excellent and clearest messages ever!!! Welcome aboard sir and I speak for most around here saying we look forward to more post from you!!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 2:21 pm
@USF Good point. I can’t wait to see the line play for this guy.
April 8th, 2016 at 2:45 pm
@Duthsty
I totally agree. Finding the perfect players for your scheme is not the hallmark of a great coach. Great coaches will work with what they have. Hell, Raheem got us 10 wins with far less talent. I can’t think of one player that actually got better under the previous regime. There is no reason to give him another year when he clearly was not the answer.
@Realist
Thanks man. I always enjoy reading your posts.
As far as Koetter goes, every coach has pressure. It’s a “win now” league. There should be no excuse for perennial losers. The league is designed for parity. I have confidence this staff can turn it around. This is an all star cast of coaches in comparison to the last decade.
April 8th, 2016 at 4:39 pm
@mike Johnson….I hear you bro…I said this earlier in the week that dirks coaching seat is already luke warm….licht suggest this team is ready to win now….dirk and licht only have one side of the ball to focus on…anything less than 10 wins and the playoffs is unacceptable and he should get canned…who cares about blowout loses….in case some of you haven’t noticed losing by 1 and losing by 50 equals the same thing a “loss”…but most of you will still blame lovie if dirk finishes 8-8 missing the playoffs and will say dirk showed enough improvement to keep his job….I find it hilarious quick frankly….people on here blame lovie for players dropping passes, fumbling balls and throwing int’s even tho lovie was hands off when it came to the offense….people will make more excuses for dirk than a inmate serving 20years….the pressure is on BIG TIME for dirk as well as licht…but after the draft fans cant blame lovie any more…it will be dirks and lichts draft picks, dirk and lichts FA dirk and lichts team….GO BUCS!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 4:43 pm
I’m expecting 9 or 10 wins this year.
April 8th, 2016 at 5:19 pm
And no Mike Johnson you didn’t mention race per say…you let everyone else do it for you after you implied it…hence why a supposed black poster called you a race baiter…you can keep quoting Lombardi though
April 8th, 2016 at 5:37 pm
Oh, and healthy applause from me to you, Scurvy Dogs. I’ve said before that I was in full support of hiring Lovie Smith after Schiano was let go. He was a great position coach for us when he was here under Dungy and Kiffin, and I had no insight into his performance in Chicago other than his record, which wasn’t terrible, and I was really hoping Lovie would put it all together for us.
As we all know now, that was completely wrong. I was so disappointed because I really wanted Lovie to be the guy. It wasn’t about race. I never thought about race. I only thought about the success we had under Dingy and Kiffin that Lovie was a part of, and I wanted that feeling back, of being a proud fan again.
But he was a poser of the first order. On his own, he brought nothing to the table apart from ineptitude, nepotism, failure, and excuses on a colossal scale. I was more embarrassed than ever to be a fan, and there was no one else who could rightfully be held accountable than Lovie Smith. It’s still not about race for me, and it never was. I just have an expectation that professionals being paid multi-million dollar contracts be able to earn the money they’re being paid and be competent. That’s a fair minimal expectation and Lovie never came close to meeting it. He not only failed, but what was worse, he blamed others and only pretended to accept responsibility for his failures. I supported him and ge made me look like an ignorant fool, and yeah, as a life-long Bucs fan I take that personally.
So, Lovie Smith is persona non grata to me, and it’s still not about race. It’s actually a little more personal than that.
April 8th, 2016 at 5:49 pm
Lovie wasn’t judged by his record….Lovie was judged by his defense. PERIOD!!!
Anyone with a pulse could see Koetter brought the offense to life. Same people could also see Lovies defense HAD no pulse.
If Koetter makes the offense produce and the defense continues to stink it up…say goodbye to Mike Smith and promote Hayes. But I don’t see that happening. The defense will show up, Smith will get a HC gig next season and Hayes will be promoted to DC.
Koetter will get four years to build because he actually knows how to coach.
April 8th, 2016 at 8:13 pm
813bucboi..I hear ya!! My thing is..NO EXCUSES. I’m a Lombardi man.
I’m deeyam..sick of excuses. Excuses from Owners, fans, Schiano and yes..even Lovie Dubbie. Every yr, its the SOS. Fans and owners wanted a new coach? Well, we got him and spanking new crew to boot. Now win some GD games! I don’t wanna hear schedule tough. Guess what/ Everybody schedule is tough. This is the NFL. I don’t care of Winstom goes down 1st game. Next man up baby. You still gotta win. I’m sick of all this perfume and what we gonna do. JUST DO IT! We..are..Waiting…..
April 8th, 2016 at 8:21 pm
They have already started with the if this and when that, a loss is a loss no matter the margin, with the talent we have now, new coaches, new assistants, its play-off time! And anyone who disagrees with me is “not” a race baiter, what ever the hell that is!!
April 8th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Talk about covering your ass, no blow/outs, be competitive, wins and losses is all that matters, BLACK OR WHITE: when you start using nepotism, ineptitude, make sure color is not the issue. When I disagree with you does not make me a race baiter, whatever the hell that is!
April 8th, 2016 at 8:51 pm
And the Baiting Brothers have spoken! Let the record state that they will not give an inch to the current coaching staff. Lovie has been done wrong and was “due” for a break out season even though he would have been desperate and made moves like trading multiple draft picks for jadeveon clowney and had this team finish dead last in the division as always!!!!!
April 8th, 2016 at 11:17 pm
And the Beat Goes On!
April 8th, 2016 at 11:17 pm
Our schedule is much tougher this year. My guess is we go 6-10 like last year. I’ll be more than happy to be proven wrong, but even with a record like that I don’t think Koetter should be up for firing. Are we just going to keep firing coaches every year until one of them is lucky enough to get a winning record?
April 9th, 2016 at 5:53 am
The GLazers kept Gruden way too long and then became impatient with three coaches who absolutely deserved to be fired. I believe the Bucs have the best coaching staff in franchise history right now along with our first true franchise QB. Thanks in part to Licht, we have a great base of young talent starting on this team. I would now like to see the Glazers follow the lead of the Rooney family and leave well enough alone. Most great franchises are built on a foundation of stability of great leadership. I believe we finally have that leadership. Let them build on what we have.
April 9th, 2016 at 1:58 pm
Couple of ridiculous posters embarrassing themselves on here again. Grow up. The future finally looking bright again
April 10th, 2016 at 1:47 am
The future looking bright again: maybe, I hope so, camp hasn’t started yet! I post my own thoughts, formed by my preseption of the matter at hand or subject matter, I may not agree with another post but I will respect the fact that we are both free to post our different opinions, call me out on my post, but just be respectful, if the winning begins we’re all going to be happy! GO MY BUCS!!