Friday Afternoon Laughter
April 22nd, 2016
In what may be an effort to justify upgrading their Excel software, the PFF tribe cobbled together a draft board for every team.
Yes, the Bucs are included.
Chief spreadsheeter and former minor league baseball pitcher Steve Palazzolo believes the three players the Bucs should strongly consider with their No. 9 overall pick are Baylor wide receiver Corey Coleman, Clemson defensive end Shaq Lawson and Mississippi State defensive tackle Chris Jones.
Joe will start with Coleman.
Now Joe would not lose a wink of sleep if the Bucs drafted a wide receiver. The Franchise, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, needs weapons. But Coleman at No. 9 is beyond a reach (although watching the complete freakout and meltdown of the best-available-player crowd might be worth the selection just for entertainment purposes alone). Nowhere, and Joe means nowhere, can Joe find a reputable outlet labeling Coleman worthy of a No. 9 pick.
In fact, Joe spoke with a trusted NFL suit at the NFL Scouting Combine and asked about Laquon Treadwell and Coleman. Joe was told late first round at best, and the source thought Coleman was no better than a high second-round pick.
To suggest that Coleman is a No. 9 pick borders on outrageous and is, in fact, high comedy.
Second round? Sure. No. 9? BUHAHAHAHAH!
As for defensive tackle, Joe doesn’t get where this sudden infatuation comes from. The Bucs already have a stud there in Gerald McCoy. Clinton McDonald and Akeem Spence are serviceable starters.
Could the Bucs use depth there? Sure. But not at No. 9 while ignoring the Grand-Canyon-like hole at defensive end, unless Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht thinks a defensive tackle taken at No. 9 can move outside on passing downs and rack up sacks.
The only logic Joe can imagine for drafting a defensive tackle at No. 9 and ignoring an edge rusher is that this dream is being hatched by the GMC haters, hoping drafting a defensive tackle at No. 9 leads to GMC being cut. That’s the only way such a selection makes any sense.
And, no, GMC will not nor should not be cut.
April 22nd, 2016 at 3:58 pm
Dumb, Joe, just dumb. Let’s not get tunnel vision. The goal is to collapse the pocket and create hell for the QB. If taking Rankins at #9 is more likely to generate havoc for the QB than a reach for a DE not in the same class (and I think that’s the case), then passing on Rankins would be idiotic. This is where the myopic need-obsessed drafting gets stupid. What’s the goal here? Is it to fill a position, or is it to fulfill an objective (rattle the QB)? I think we know the answer, and I think the solution will be Rankins. He’s drawing comparisons to Aaron Donald and Warren Sapp. How can you pass on that in favor of a DE class that won’t make anyone forget Simeon Rice?
[Drops mic]
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:01 pm
So Joe would rather reach for a DE than take a stud at DT? Brilliant!
Hanging out with the “Rockstar” huh?
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Yes, do you want disruption up the gut or defensive Es on their rears. Choose.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Rankins ain’t Sapp or Aron Donald don’t play yourself. Good writing Joe. Its funny how after 2014 everyone was moaning over getting a quality DE round here but all of sudden we can’t She
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:06 pm
—all of sudden we cant win without. Sheldon rankins PLEASE.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:07 pm
Joe, if none of the DEs are worthy of a top-10 pick, but there is a beastly DT, why would you not take him? You just want to reach for need like Dominik used to?
Mike Smith defense in Jax had 2 dominant interior DL, so it could make sense to have a ferocious interior rush, allowing lesser DEs on the outside to clean up. Then you draft a DE in round 2 and/or 3.
Now as far as Coleman goes, I totally agree, laughable!
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:08 pm
So basically you’re saying its impossible to get a good pass rush up the middle and its only possible from the edge? Joe, Sometimes you make no sense whatsoever. Its highly possible and highly probable the best draft a DT at 9 who can rush the passer, put him beside McCoy and keep them both. All that other garbage you said, is exactly that… garbage.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:09 pm
Joe’s head will explode when we draft Coleman in the 1st round. I’d take him at 9, but if they can trade back into the teens and get him that would be great.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:11 pm
And another thing, Mcdonald nor Spence are pass rushers, they are run stoppers to assume we cant use an upgrade there is ridiculous.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:11 pm
Y’all funny cause truth be told none of you would even be mentioning him were it not for joe writing a article on the guy. Weeks ago when I was saying Jay Hayes might be able to turn him into the next Geno Atkins I didn’t see this drooling for him then.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:14 pm
Who exactly thinks a defensive end at No. 9 is a reach with two QBs going in the first two picks? Or are you just waking up from a six-month nap?
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Corner then.
DT is a luxury. Not even close to a need. Depth? Sure. That comes in the third day.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:17 pm
First, those 2 QBs going in the top 10 will be reach of epic proportions.
Second, so because someone else does something stupid, we should too?
C’mon Joe, Coleman at #9 is dumb of course but a beastly DT, or even OT, would not be crazy or surprising.
It all comes down to whether Licht feels one of these DEs are better than what’s being said about them publicly.
In Licht we trust.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:19 pm
The Pewter report did two separate mocks the first one had Ogbah going first the second one had Rankins going first. I didn’t see this adulation for Rankins then.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:20 pm
That settles it all…..Just draft a QB, RB, TE, K or Oline….
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:26 pm
DT is a luxury. Not even close to a need. Depth? Sure. That comes in the third day.
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Incorrect again Joe. The need is a pass rush which can come in a variety of ways. Nice try though.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:27 pm
All I’m saying is, when you look at a wide variety of different analysts on the draft prospects, and so on, there seems to be a general consensus that:
The best value for talent at DT will be in round 1 (2 -3 guys).
The best value for talent at OT will be in round 1 (2, maybe 3 guys).
The best value for talent at DE will be in rounds 2 and 3, because there are question marks with all the DE prospects this year.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:27 pm
Repeat this: Even with a defensive tackle (not a need at all) where exactly is the edge rush coming from? Sackless George Johnson? Everyone and their brother for years claims GMC needs help from the outside, not inside. This guy’s career (and tens of millions of Team Glazer loot) is being p!ssed away with no edge rush.
How many times do people have to write a right tackle at No. 9 is way, way, way too high (no, the Bucs do not need a left tackle; they have one they like very much). You have to go back 12 years since a right tackle was drafted in top ten (Robert Gallery).
Cornerback? Joe can easily see that at No. 9. Edge rusher? Of course.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:28 pm
How can you say a DT is not a need when Spence and McDonald and McCoy were out there was zero pressure from inside the pocket. Because you say what is and what isn’t doesn’t make it true.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:31 pm
Once again, why was that? No. Edge. Rush.
For a guy who missed a games because of injury, GMC did OK if not good. Yes, really.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:32 pm
Again…Mike Smith defense in JAX had a beastly INTERIOR rush.
Yes, we need to pair McCoy with someone who can rush. Does it matter if it comes from the inside or the outside? Not really.
If they have a 1st round grade on a DT and a 2nd round grade on a DE, why does it matter?
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:33 pm
So let me get this straight, we can get no pressure from anywhere on the line except through a semi consistant GMC, but a DT who can rush the passer is not a need?
But according to you, CB is a need even though he probably has no chance to start over Grimes, Verner or Banks…?
If Joe was a GM, this team would be screwed to hell and back. LoL
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:36 pm
How is DT a luxury? If creating chaos for the QB is the objective, Rankins will probably do that better than the DEs on the board. Him and McCoy in the middle. Teams will have to gameplan seriously against that. None of the DEs from what I can tell, seem to be likely to have the same impact unless Buckner falls to us. Reaching for one of the other DEs at 9 is STUPID if Rankins is sitting there, which he probably will be. We can get a DE in round 2.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:37 pm
I’ve seen lots of tape of the top d ends and d tackles. Rankins looks like the most athletic and disruptive of all of them to me. What difference does it make which position on the line he plays if he’s the best d lineman available. I believe he is much better than Buckner. I also have a bad feeling about Bosa. Nothing at all wrong with taking one of the 3 stud offensive tackles
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Joe would be the worst GM in the history of the NFL, worse even than Bruce Allen or Matt Millen.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:39 pm
yea, I agree with those here in the comment section saying a DT could be just as beneficial as an “edge” rusher
If we’re collapsing the pocket up the middle, who cares? Does it matter where the pressure comes from? If Licht thinks that Rankins is a perennial pro-bowler and that the DE’s in the top of this draft are over rated, who would I be to argue?
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:39 pm
Joe I’m ridin wit ya homie. Ima say it again no one was complaining about these same interior D Linemen after 2014 when Frazier was running the defense. The interior wasn’t an issue then. It only became an issue when the other guy started calling the defense. Remember 2014 top ten three major defensive categories. Ring a bell.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:42 pm
Nole, so you’re saying our DTs collapsed the pocket routinely in 2014? I’d liek to know what team you have been watching the last few years cuz I been watching a team that seldom moves the QB at all, except an occasional great play by GMC.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:45 pm
C’mon save that noise couch. All I know is everyone was complaining about one position Michael Johnson and how inept he was at right DE.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:48 pm
You avoided answering the question by making an obvious statement. LoL. Ill assume you dont have an answer which is what I expected. Of course, everyone was complaining about the Ghost. He was paid a lot of money and did very little to earn that money. But that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
A pass rush is a pass rush whether it comes from the edge or up the middle.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:49 pm
Again Joe… There is no elite game changing edge pass rusher at #9… Name him…???
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:50 pm
@Nole-
You’re mentally locked in to DE. Let’s ask a smarter question. Why do we need DE? Because we need to get to the passer more often… If a Pro-Bowl DT is available for us, but the DEs available are not of the same quality, doesn’t it benefit our passrush more to pick the better player and team him up with McCoy? Doesn’t that sound like a big problem for OCs to game plan around? So, let’s not get tunnel vision. We can still get DE in round 2.
April 22nd, 2016 at 4:58 pm
Look no further than the defending NFCS Champs. 2 stud DTs combined with 2 average DEs. Insane to say a pass rush has to come from the edge.
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Hey Nole …… why don’t you take a break and disappear like you did last year.
Joe’s a$$ is getting a rash from all your attention.
Oh yeah…….give me Rankins.
Just wait on it ; )
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:06 pm
You know what’s great?
All of the Joe’s are just fans like us, and can be wrong, just like us.
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:17 pm
All I know is I would take Spence in the second if he is there. No.9 is up in the air I’m not sold on VH so either OT or DT would be fine with me. I don’t think our receiving corp is that depleted…I expect Koetter to get a LOT out of ASJ this year, Evans will be the first round talent he should be with motivation from winston, Bell is going to straight ball out. Yeah some may say Bell is unproven and we don’t actually know what your getting with him, but the same can be said for any rookie. To reach for a DE just because you need one is plain stupid. You take the BPA unless there is another player of different position close enough in talent that the pick is justified. After sitting through a decade of bad football I am prepared to wait a few seasons and watch this team build correctly through the draft. Take the BPA PERIOD!!!
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:45 pm
If Bosa or Buckner are there at #9 you have to take them, but if they’re not Rankins is the next best option.
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:48 pm
I have a feeling we’re not staying at 9.
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:54 pm
Ok Joe, what DE is worth a top 10 pick genius?
It’s a sh*t year for edge rushers and you want to waste a top ten pick on a poor man’s Von Miller, or Jared Allen?
Fishing for clicks cause you can’t generate quality content of your own?
April 22nd, 2016 at 5:56 pm
Awesome pic for this one Joe…..
…. Now go get your shine box.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Ayers / Jack Smith are on the same level as McDonald and Spence.
We have 1 superstar on d line and that’s g McCoy. I want another superstar regardless of DE/DT
Not sure why Nole obsessed with hating on Rankins.
Most list him as #1 DT and top 15. Lawson / Ogbahs rankings range from mid 1st to mid 2nd. That’s where the love comes from along with him dominating senior bowl and dominating in college.
Truth is when McDonald was healthy early in season our d line looked way better and so did guys like Jack Smith. Am I the only one that noticed that?
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:06 pm
Okay couch f I had time to watch all the film from 2014 I would but because I don’t I can’t answer your pointless question.
salsh are you clairvoyant?? Who is the Pro bowl DT you speak of???
Dooshlarue its simple when it comes to you homie. “Just eat a fat d@$!..
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:07 pm
Fools.
There is no chance in heaven that our first pick is a Defensive Tackle. None.
In fact, I doubt we’d see one taken by the Bucs before round 4, if at all.
The pick will be a defensive end, a right tackle or a wide receiver.
Anyone who says differently is not in touch with reality.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:08 pm
And, so far as reaching…Jason Licht has proven he’s willing to reach. And he had success doing it.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:10 pm
As to the linked article…
“Shaq Lawson, ED, Clemson”
Does ED mean he’s educated?
And a center? We ALREADY ADDRESSED CENTER!!!!!!
Do these idiots even pay attention????
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:15 pm
“The pick will be a defensive end, a right tackle or a wide receiver.
Anyone who says differently is not in touch with reality.”
Lmao. Ok man. Cool story. Forgot you were in the war room. Obviously we brought in like 5-10 DTs for visits because we are ignoring that position this year. Jesus christ
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:17 pm
Lord,
Nope, you’re not the only one who noticed that.
I think Rankins would certainly create havoc with opposing defenses.
But, most mocks still have us taking VGIII.
That’s why this time of year is so exciting. Nobody and I mean NOBODY knows who we are goi
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:17 pm
Lord I’m not try to hate on Rankins it just seems like folks are flavor of the week poster’s round here. Last year all I heard we need a DE we need a DE. Now we’re right on the door steps of the draft and Ogbah’s no good because some saying he lazy. But his numbers are equal to or better than everyone in this draft and last years draft. Couple that with you are absolutly right when M
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:19 pm
*going to draft.
Except Licht and his staff.
Should be interesting to be sure.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:21 pm
Honestly I don’t really care if we take DE or DT. I just want more hungry hogs on that line and the best one available.
Would be fine with trade back to 15 and going with a CB and hogs in rounds 2 / 3 with the depth there. I’d be fine with whatever Light pulls the trigger on at pick 9 if it’s a D-lineman or VH3. In the end he can evaluate individual players more than me and I trust him more than anyone here.
I’ll be slightly upset with RT but OK even with that because I love Jaboo. Coleman or some speed WR at 9 that’s a major reach is the only thing that’d piss me off probably and he’s not going to do that I’d think.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:22 pm
I meant VHIII.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:22 pm
Nole I agree with you on Ogbah. I don’t understand why he isn’t rated higher with his measurable and production. You’d think he’d be a top 10 pick.
I trust in Light. I want us to get better at getting at the QB.
I just like Rankins since i read about him early on and watched him in 1 on 1 drills. He looked quicker than anyone I saw in those drills and I watched most all the D-lineman coming out. Hands are scary fast and reminded me of McCoy in that respect
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:27 pm
Gotta disagree with you this time Joe. As I’ve said before, I would rather pair McCoy with the No. 1 DT (Rankin) than the No. 2 (or 3) DE. Side by side, those two could destroy a pocket regularly flushing QBs to run out to the waiting arms of our average DEs that no one thinks are worth a damn.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Today Unbelieveable posts…”In Licht we trust.”
As usual I agree with Unbelievable. With all due respect to posters here and Joe I’m actually comfortable with whomever Licht chooses.
As for the debate going on here at JBF like Lord C and others I do not care where the QB pressure comes from…inside or out. Pressure up the gut is generally a lot quicker than a DE running around an OT or even bull rushing one. GMC has generally drawn double teams. If he had a doppleganger running next to him they cannot double team both of them.
As for where the outside pressure comes from? Lovie is gone..how about LVD or Kwon? Remember when LVD played for Schiano and racked up decent sack numbers?
Mike Smith will also game plan to his strength. If that’s two All Pro DT’s and no All Pro DE’s he’ll figure something out..whether it’s LB’s or even an occasional DB blitzing or more creative use of Jack Smith and Gholston.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Fock it all! Just draft a punter at 9.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Trade GMC and Glennon to the Jets for Wilkerson and Marshall.
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Joe’s love your guys articles and super fan . Endless content and listen to you guys on 620. I hear you loud and clear a DT would be a head scratcher as we do indeed have Gerald McCoy . I believe Clinton McDonald’s and Akeem spence are above average not great but agree serviceable starters. However you may be looking right past a huge tip off as to what the bucs may do. Licht has tipped us off or maybe it was koetter , either way essentially I read on your site that the bucs really like the panthers model of how there team is set up . If you look the panthers have two high pick wrecking balls at the DT position, arguably 2 of the top ten in the league . I have never watched Sheldon rankins play but I read today his scouting report is drawing comparisons to warren sapp that’s supposedly how disruptive and the playing style they are likening him to. Like I said I agree DE is more of a need but perhaps they just don’t see one that is worth the number 9 they say rankins is a top ten talent and he is falling down the board because all these teams are trading up to reach on these qbs. Maybe they see Noah spence falling to the start of the second based on interest he has had from teams he has projected himself to go around the 27th pick . I see him tumbling because of character concerns . Not only that but McDonald is 31 and McCoy is not a spring chicken on a huge contract , he is a great player but simply does not produce up to his contract size. Spence has had character concerns in the past. He is a workout warrior strong but sort of undersized at 6-1. Licht has also said in his interview with mike florio I believe that he’s looking 3,4,5 years down the road already which is why he has brought in some “bridge” veteran players for potential rookies to take the reigns of . DT is not a dire need but I think it may be a good thing for this team rankins is supposedly a can’t miss my many prominent big board builders and draft analysts
To counter your nice comment, Joe will say the Panthers invested a 2nd round pick on Kawannn Short and a mid-first for Lotulelei. So that’s not as high as a No. 3 overall for McCoy and a No. 9 for Rankins. …Dominik also grabbed Brian Price early in the second round, but he got a freak injury. … Joe has no problem with Rankins, as long as the Bucs don’t miss with their DE pick this year. In this scenario, that would have to be in second round or trade up from where they are in the late 30s. Lastly, Joe can assure you Licht isn’t looking much three years down the road. Too much urgency to win sooner.–Joe
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:58 pm
Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:
April 22nd, 2016 at 6:06 pm
You’re missing the point, which is hypothetical. Suppose Rankins is rated as a Pro-Bowl type player. This seems to be how a lot of people are talking about him. None of the DEs that will be available to us (probably) are of that caliber. If you accept that Jason Licht’s board puts Rankins in that category, but none of the available DEs, then you’d have to take Rankins. I’m not saying I know whether Rankins is that player or if Jason Licht thinks he’s that player, but much of what I read says the guy has that talent. IF, I repeat IF, that is how he’s evaluated by Licht, and IF (repeat) Licht doesn’t have DEs rated similarly, then you take Rankins. I haven’t watched film or done any comparison between him and other players to reach an evaluation. I’m merely saying that you go where the quality is to achieve the same (or similar) objective, which we know is pass rush. Whichever guy gives us the most bang for that draft position, I am for. I just haven’t read as much convincing commentary on the DEs as I have on Rankins. Do I need to explain any further?
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:00 pm
This entire exercise amuses me. Not as much as when I had to cover sports for a living in a market dominated by college teams. Signing day in these kinds of markets is just as crazy as draft day for NFL fans but you Noles, Gators, Canes and Bulls are well aware of that.
I always got into trouble because I just can’t get worked up about a bunch of high school kids who have been shaving a couple of years. Nobody knows for sure how these kids will grow up. I get being exciting by the “numbers”. All of Jimbo’s recruits do not work out but he signs so freaking many 4 and 5 star recruits ala Saban and Urban who cares about the names or reps of these guys as individuals. The only certain thing is that a large enough % will work out to make Jimbo and Saban look like geniuses.
And so what say ye guys. Which do you believe is easier to predict? Future success for a high school kid jumping to college or a college kid getting drafted into the NFL.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:01 pm
Forget Sheldon Rankins! How come nobody is thinking that man beast A’Shawn Robinson, a John Henderson clone, is going to be the Bucs pick?
A’Shawn Robinson could be a monster for McCoy to work with for the rest of his career!
Get your DE at the appropriate value in round 2 or trade back into the 1st.
The Bucs could solidify a dominant D-Line for years to come!
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:13 pm
All we are doing on here is arguing about players that we have no idea how they’ll play in the NFL. Right now all they are are names. I have no idea how Bosa, Buckner, Rankins or Ogbah will turn out as Pros. Rankins could be the next Geno Atkins or the next Brian Price. Ogbah could be the next Ezekiel Ansah or the next Da’Quan Bowers. We all have our favorite players, I guess. Personally, if our biggest need is DE, and if there aren’t any DE’s worthy of 9, I’d like to see us TRY to trade back to get more picks and take a chance on Spence or Ogbah later in the first. The supposed “strength” of this draft is DT, so we might be able to get a similar DT in round 2 than take one at 9. Then again, I have no idea if any of these players will turn into All-Pros. I’ll just trust Licht that whatever he does will be the best decision depending how the draft board fell in front of us and if there is a team trying to trade up to our spot.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:14 pm
Stop talking so much sense Eric. That is not allowed here.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:15 pm
Thanks StPete!
That’s what I’m saying– pressure and sacks are pressure and sacks– regardless of what position they come from. If you have a 1st round grade on a DT, and only 2nd round grade on the DEs, you take the DT in the 1st round.
If you can blow up the center of the pocket on play after play, your DEs and LBs will me making sacks and TFLs all over the place.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:16 pm
If Licht thinks that Richardson is a big time talent, I can’t understand the mentality of “let’s pass on him because we have Akeem Spence and Clinton McDonald”
That’s the same attitude that had us pass on Luke Kuechly because we already had Mason Foster
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:17 pm
^^ Rankins not Richardson
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:17 pm
SPBF,
To be sure, this is an exercise in futility.
Cannot wait until this madness ends and they start playing football again.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:22 pm
This would be so much easier if we could get our eyes on Lichts Big-Board in the War room.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:25 pm
Again…. Why not Richardson? He was a monster for national champion Alabama.
Media guys went to the senior bowl and saw Rankins have a great week of practise (despite his inconsistent college film.) Now all of a sudden he’s Aaron Donald.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:25 pm
Other than QB, LB and maybe OG, there isn’t a single position that I don’t think we should be considering with that #9 pick
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:26 pm
I agree with @StPete and @unbelievable. I have faith in Jason Licht. I don’t have anything personally invested in any of these players. I’m just excited to see how he continues to build the team in general, and to see what specifically he does to add to the pass rush and coverage. No short CBs though! Haha.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:30 pm
Trying to predict what your team will do during the draft is harder than predicting what teams will advance in the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
I’d be willing to bet a couple of bucks that nobody here will pick EXACTLY who the Bucs will draft with their picks.
Any takers?
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:30 pm
Robinson ^^^^^ not Richardson
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Banana hammcock got me confused
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Yeah in the end I trust in light
Simple as that lol
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:42 pm
Dave Pear, no way! Way too many possibilities to get every round right, and that’s without predicting trades. Hell, just in the 6th round there is probably 100 players who could who could be drafted and not enough spots for them all. No thanks!
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:45 pm
Dave
I’m not taking your bet!!! LOL
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:51 pm
The only position that would be a worse choice than these 3 choices is an offensive lineman. Our O Line is our strength. Speaking of O linemen. I went to the Lightning game last night with my son. We were so pumped by the dramatic series ending win that we decided to wait where the players come out in hopes of a couple of pictures. Hockey players are the coolest by the way. Stralman, Nesterov, Coburn, and Killer Killorn all came out shook hands, signed autos and let me snap selfies with myself and son. It was amazing. Before those players came out, however, we got to meet Donovan Smith who came out just before. Let me just say, I’m a big dude but D Smith made me feel like a little schoolgirl. Cool guy and a great pleasure to meet him and say hello.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:53 pm
cmurda, I wish I was there!
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Norman signs with the Skins. 5 years $75 mil! Wow.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:59 pm
cmurda that is awesome, bet your sons were stoked!
Have to disagree with you regarding the O-line. It was decent, even good at times last year. But we no longer have Logan Mankins. We don’t know the injury status of Joe Hawley. And we had to put 6 OL on the field quite a bit, which means one less skills position out there as a weapon.
I think DT is much more likely than OT, but you never know how things shake out.
April 22nd, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Wow
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Dan Snyder sure does like shiny things.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Dave….I’ll bet the Gators will suck just as much as they did last year.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:05 pm
At least Norman is out of our division. I was really hoping he would end up on an AFC team! Lol!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:05 pm
Norman is officially a Redskin now. Whewh! Glad we dodged that bullet. Way to go Licht!!! I trust you more and more all the time.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:10 pm
Buc1987 Says:
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Dave….I’ll bet the Gators will suck just as much as they did last year.
…………………………..
First off the ONLY thing that sucked about the Gators last yr was Treon Harris! Second off they won the SECEast and gave Alabama a hell of a run for the first half of the game despite us having no QB. Thirdly if we had a QB we would have whooped the Noles too. Fourth off I will bet you a Bucs Jersey of your choice that the Gators beat the Noles this yr!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:14 pm
87 would know cuz he is the expert sucker.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Oh snap!
More jersey bets for 87!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:15 pm
And now you will see Norman fade into obscurity with the Skins. Ridiculous money for 1 good year.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:19 pm
Deondre Francois baby!!! Take the bet, 87!
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:23 pm
Amen Couch. Also we get to see OBJ play him Twice a yr now. I am thinking if the Skins don’t generate a pass rush then they will be laughed so hard when OBJ schools Norman over and over
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:24 pm
He started it unbelievable. I don’t give a F about a C-note bet when it comes to Gators/Noles.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:25 pm
I just looked over their defense to. Lol. I cant wait to see the mess they just made.
April 22nd, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Back in thelate 90s and up thru the Super Bowl year our defensive line was very deep …strong defensive tackles and ends. You can never have too much depth on the defensive line if a stud offensive line players available you take definitely the best available either way
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:28 pm
@cmurda
Thanks for sharing that story! That is waaay cool and I can only imagine the memory you and your son will have forever.
I still remember game 7 of the Cup when we took out Calgary. I’ve been to pretty big sporting events…down on the field for many of them…but atmosphere in the Arena that night was just freaking amazing.
Thanks for sharing about D Smith as well. That’s great that he gets to be in the locker room of WINNERS. It’s going to come soon enough for the Bucs. Remember how jacked #3 was after a Lightning experience.
I do not know if we can survive the injuries this year but I remain optimistic.
The Lightning this year or next and the Bucs in the SB in two years!!!
We’re about to enter a glory period in Tampa Bay sports!
April 22nd, 2016 at 9:45 pm
@SPBF,
Amen man. The Bucs are on the rise. I was there the same year as the Cup when we finished the Flyers. I should have waited for players to come out. That was exhilarating. I remember walking out with a chant of Philly is our bish. I think we can beat either Isles or Panthers without Stammer and Stralman, but it will be a doozie. If we do, there’s the outside shot that Stammer can be ready for ECF. One of the fans asked Stralman when he’s coming back and he said hopefully in this round. Of all of them, Stralman took the most time with the crowd. Awesome guy. Same with Killer.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:16 pm
LAWSON!!!
He is a stud DE. Plays pass, run, has a non Stop motor and is strong.
The idiots suggesting anything besides DE at 9 need to just take a break from football. You guys are over thinking things.
What is the number one way for a team to stop QBs in a passing league— pressure!!!! The Bucs have lacked it for a decade.
If they draft anything besides a DE that can apply pressure they failed.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:16 pm
Since there is so many good DB prospects let’s go with offense first round. I believe the year Bucs selected Mike Evans, had all the DBs come for predraft workout and they had all out offense draft.
April 22nd, 2016 at 10:42 pm
I agree Dave. My Noles face Rankins this past season. I did not recognize the player that many round here crooning over now. I’m sorry I didn’t know anything about him before the game and nothing about his play that particular game stood out to me to make me wanna inquire further. Doubt what I’m saying just pull up the game. Pro bowl type player??? The one that said that should be working for Licht.
April 22nd, 2016 at 11:10 pm
And Lord I was trying to say before my battery died that I agree with you that when McDonald was healthy this team did not have issues with interior Dline production. I fully expect whom ever is drafted at 9 to be a day one starter. I just don’t see Rank sending a healthy McDonald to second team. IJS.
April 22nd, 2016 at 11:28 pm
Joe its a little late but could you do me a favor please??? I keep reading people saying their has been a number of DTs that have visited OneBucPlace for an interview. Can you list these individuals for me.
April 23rd, 2016 at 12:37 am
A little Bucs history.
The Bucs have drafted 6 DE’s in the first round over their 40 years in the league. Only the first one, Lee Roy Selmon, ever saw a second contract with the team. All the others were gone like ghosts. Even if they do draft one, don’t project too far ahead with them. They are notoriously risky picks, not just for the Bucs either.
April 23rd, 2016 at 1:59 am
Im cool with oline or dt. Dodd, Ogbah, and Lawson don’t seem to be worth it at nine. Rankins, Robinson, Reed would all benefit our d line especialy Rankins who is the best pass rusjer of those three. And supposedly LVD is going to blitz more, reaching for a de may not be necessary. And if LVD is going to be a pass rusher on third and longs, picking up someone like Robinson who is massive and get occupy gaps and eat double teams and is ranked higher than any of the above mentioned de’s on many boards, may not be a bad idea.
April 23rd, 2016 at 12:05 pm
Nole check pewter report or bucs nation for the list of visits.
Thing is I don’t think we had mike Evans in for a visit and other draft picks so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything but they looked at a lot of DTs
April 23rd, 2016 at 4:08 pm
One of the worst i’ve seen for the Bucs.
That said i’m really hoping we don’t bust yet again on a DE if we pick one.
April 24th, 2016 at 9:33 am
If we get rankins first then we can get Ogbah (sp?) in the 2nd if he makes it. Dt is a luxury because of McCoy but if we have two guys up the middle who can put big pressure up front then what’s the problem? ?? In my book up front pressure is better because it forces more errant throws and causes more interceptions. Now the problem for us would be the qbs will automatically run to the outside and if our ends can’t contain well then you know we have scam newton 2x a year.
April 24th, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Sorry, Joe. Your line of thinking here is ass-backwards, IMO. You collapse the pocket any and every way that you can. You take best available that lines up with a need. Our need not pigeon-holed to strictly DE, it is pressure on the QB. This can be accomplished many ways and we should pigeon-hole ourselves by being so narrow-minded. A great example of pressure from the middle was the Broncos this past post-season. Their DL inside wrecked havoc and collapse the pocket with BWare and Miller closing in from the outside. Sure to obvious eye, it was all Miller and BWare, but a closer look says otherwise.
Just because a we have been in need for a DE does not mean we should reach for one that most likely will not be there. Sure Bosa has the skill set and could be available, but frankly his mindset and hard partying ways scare me. Him being available for us possibly means many teams also see this as fairly major red flag. Buckner? Is he the DE pass rushing specialist we need? I feel like he fits much better as a 5-technique in a 3-4.
Rankins is rated as the top (pass rushing) DT in a deep DT draft. He and McCoy could wreck havoc in collapsing the pocket and make our DEs look like all-stars. Not to mention, how many times have people said that the best way to rattle Brees is to put the pressure in his face up through the middle? Wouldn’t we all prefer a DE pass rush specialist? Of course, but you can’t take what isn’t there. The next best thing will be, though.
Just another opinion.