Waiting On Jason Licht
March 30th, 2016
Staredown.
What are the Bucs going to do with backup quarterback Mike Glennon?
Teams in this quarterback-starved league are begging for any halfway decent signal-caller. How else does one explain turds like Stewart McClown and vagabond Ryan Fitzpatick always finding some sap of a team to give them seven-figures a year. In some circles, guys would be jailed on charges of extortion.
(This just in: If your team hopes to draft either Deshaun Watson or Baker Mayfield next year, the Cleveland Browns are now taking your calls to negotiate a trade for Stewart.)
This brings us to Mike Glennon. Will the Bucs con his agent into signing an extension, will the Bucs trade him so they can draft a starter with the pick they get in return, or will the Bucs unthinkably watch him walk out the door when his contract expires next winter and get nothing in return?
The call is in the hands of Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht, and that decision may not come for a few weeks, types Chris Wesseling of NFL.com.
It’s hard to blame Glennon for demurring in the current quarterback landscape. New Texans starter Brock Osweiler — a signal-caller of similar size, pedigree, talent and NFL effectiveness — just landed $37 million in guarantees for the next two seasons.
The Jets reportedly have reached out to gauge the price tag for Jameis Winston’s backup, but a trade involving Glennon and franchise player Muhammad Wilkerson is a non-starter.
In a salary-cap-strapped stare-down with Colin Kaepernick and the 49ers, might Broncos general manager John Elway be willing to trade his third-round pick in the upcoming draft after being awarded compensatory selections at the end of each of the third and fourth rounds? How about dealing the No. 31 overall pick for the Buccaneers’ No. 39 selection and Glennon? Now that free agency has essentially run its course, there’s a good chance we’ll have to wait until draft weekend to see a Glennon trade play out.
It is really difficult to fathom the Bucs would let Glennon get away after this season for nothing. Yes, Joe knows Licht really wants to keep Glennon, but responsibility for the team and its future must dictate his decision. Barring something horribly unforeseen happening to America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, Glennon is not the quarterback of the future.
Could Licht really coerce Glennon’s agent to sign a new deal, and have Glennon content to ride the pine two more years when he could start for another club?
And so we wait and we stew on Licht’s move.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:15 am
I like the idea of trading MG8 for one of Denvers two 3rd rnd picks. I think that’s a win for both teams. And Denver best option at this point.
Glennon is better than any of the available QBS right now and Def better than the guy they have already in SANCHIZE lol. Im getting the feeling that Licht is in no hurry to trade him and is waiting for the right deal. I would be absolutely shocked if they resigned him. Hopefully there just buying there self more time to find a better deal by wanting to do that. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out. I don’t think we need him as our backup if he’s worth a high end pick. Let Griffin take over the clip board or sign a veteran to help teach Winston.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:16 am
“No. 31 overall pick for the Buccaneers’ No. 39 selection and Glennon?”
………………………..
DONE!
Now bring on the draft.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:25 am
I don’t know, moving up 8 spots isn’t that big of a deal as far as choices other than maybe the 5th year option the Bucs would get by moving into the 1st round. I’d rather get more picks to help fill more holes.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:29 am
@Joe … “How about dealing the No. 31 overall pick for the Buccaneers’ No. 39 selection and Glennon?”
So we trade away an valuable asset for the privilege of moving up 8 whole places in the draft? Really? What player would the Bucs draft in that new position who would be worth giving up Mike Glennon for (and who we couldn’t have gotten 8 places down)? That scenario makes little sense when compared to holding out for even a 4th round draft pick for Glennon. Preferably a 3rd or a 2nd though if we’re patient.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:44 am
He will be dealt and licht will get more than an 8 spot move up. That would be robbery by the broncos and weve seen lichts too smart for that. Unless they are targeting a certain player at 31 n think hell be gone id prefer their 2nd, which is the lowest 2nd. Maybe a 3rd and 7th. Someones gona pony up
March 30th, 2016 at 7:45 am
Swap 1st round picks with Denver. Straight up trade; Glennon for Von Miller. Drop the Mic! Just one fan’s dream.
March 30th, 2016 at 7:50 am
Exactly trading Glennon to move up 8 spots is insane! Maybe 8 spots AND a 3rd rounder.
March 30th, 2016 at 8:01 am
I’d like the trade up only if we receive an additional draft pick.
Glennon has no incentive to sign an extension now…..why shouldn’t he wait until later in the season after the no trade deadline……His price would be higher then because the Bucs would either sign him or lose him and receive nothing.
March 30th, 2016 at 8:03 am
It’s amazing how much value everyone here places on MG8?????
I’m a big MG8 fan too….
……but the GM will do the right thing and trade MG8 while he still had value
March 30th, 2016 at 8:18 am
39 to 31 and MG?
No thanks
Straight up for a third rounder or higher.
March 30th, 2016 at 8:34 am
It’s going to happen, the question is for what in return, but we won’t know until the end of the first night of the draft or the second day, MG8is a good guy and he does deserve the opportunity to compete for a starting gig, just based on the QB’s on other squads
March 30th, 2016 at 8:41 am
How about #31 and #63 from Denver for #39 and Glennon?
March 30th, 2016 at 8:41 am
Joe has been waiting 3 years to run errrrr trade MG8 out of town!!!!
March 30th, 2016 at 8:55 am
Need extra pick bad. Maybe then we could have luxury pick to go after FSU kicker aguayo
March 30th, 2016 at 8:57 am
Licht is holding all the cards on this. He is the only party who is not desperate. Just wait it out until right before the draft. The desperate teams could overpay for him. Either way, he will the max value for him then, whatever that value may end up being.
March 30th, 2016 at 9:03 am
Getting more than a 4th rd pick is going to be almost impossible. You can get him for free next year and you can get hoyer for free this year
March 30th, 2016 at 9:11 am
Mike
is dead on…
licht wont get much more than a 4th. He might be better trying to get a player in return giving all the holes bucs have.
no matter what licht gets there will be a select few crying because he did not get more.
March 30th, 2016 at 9:23 am
8 spots?
Next offer, please.
No chance.
We’d need a second round pick or a high thrid and a player.
March 30th, 2016 at 9:41 am
I like the idea of getting their #31 for our #39…we can then trade back into the second with say tenn., Cleveland, dallas, san diego, jax or just somebody that is eager/depress and get their 3rd or 4th round pick…we would have a higher second round pick and a extra 3rd or 4th…imo if he isn’t gone the day before or day of the draft he walks after the season…GO BUCS!!!
March 30th, 2016 at 9:49 am
Let’s see, a defensive starter or a backup quarterback?
Yeah, that’s a tough one.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:01 am
@joe yeah you can get a defensive starter 8 picks later. What your saying all defensive starters will be gone by our 39th pick. What round was Kwon drafted in. What about David. And we could still get something for mike Glennon next year it’s called a restricted free agent we can put a first or second round tender on him if team signs him we receive there first or second round pick. Or we get right to match. So we don’t have to just give him away to move up a whopping 8 spots.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:13 am
Last years first round tender price was 3.1 million for the year. I would pay that for a good backup. If no other team decides to sign him. If they do sign him we will get a first or second round pick from a pretty bad team if they are desperate for a qb. So it will be a high draft pick. Win win everyone is happy we have a good back or we get a first or second rounder next year.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:25 am
Trading to 31 is a bit of a bigger deal because a first rounder has a 5th year team option.
I still think they should get an extra pick as well but a 4th or 5th seems more likely.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:31 am
“How else does one explain turds like Stewart McClown”
Pretty pathetic writing on your part Joe. You would think guys who consider themselves journalists would be more professional.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:33 am
I’m not the sharpest knife in this kitchen by a long shot,but if what Jeffbuc just said is accurate then that’s the most sensical proposal I’ve heard to date.
March 30th, 2016 at 10:54 am
@jeffbuc…that idea sounds good but wont that put us in the same position we’re in now…there will always be a team that needs a qb…teams will just wait for him to be a URFA…GO BUCS!!!
March 30th, 2016 at 11:01 am
That’s why we are in the drivers seat and can wait for a good deal. If that wasn’t an option the deal would already be done. They also have a tender you can put where they have to match the round he was drafted. So worse case scenario we get a 3rd for him. Anything less is giving him away
March 30th, 2016 at 11:05 am
Brian
you might be lost the Politically Correct Bucs fan site is run by Sanders at bucs nation. Calling McClown’s play “turd like” is professional and about the nicest way that one could put it.
March 30th, 2016 at 11:25 am
@ Mike
Teams won’t get Glennon for free next year…….he will be a free agent and can negotiate with any team he wishes…..Teams will give up a draft pick to have him this year at his low rookie salary and to have the ability to negotiate a longer term deal.
I also disagree that he will go for a 4th rounder or worse…..this is simply a supply & demand situation and the Bucs have the supply.
March 30th, 2016 at 11:34 am
The “value” differential between picks #31 and #39 is only 90 points. The equivalent of a 4th round pick. Sorry but that’s not enough.
We invested a high 3rd round pick in him initially – provided him starting experience and solid grooming (especially last year under Koetter & Bajakian). MG8 played pretty well when given the chance – all things considered – and is now thought of as one of the best back-ups in the NFL. Many feel Glennon still has upside and the potential to be an effective starter in this league given decent surrounding help.
Considering the lack of good or even decent QBs that needy teams have to choose from on the free market and/or coming out of College the last few years – Mike Glennon is worth a lot more than a 4th round pick – that’s for sure.
I’d say Glennon is worth at least a mid 2nd round pick based on his capabilities and what we have invested in him. Who could possibly argue successfully that Glennon is not a better option for a QB needy team than a QB picked in the 2nd round of this year’s draft?
March 30th, 2016 at 11:36 am
It’s not even a garuntee that we draft a starter with that pick or that the pick will be a effective contributor see Bowers.
There’s a nice highlight tape of Glennon on fox sports website. The kid is way better than Osweiler or Hoyer imo.
I say keep him next yr and franchise him if a good deal can’t be struck.
March 30th, 2016 at 11:43 am
Tampabaybucfan
The demand might not be there that some would like to think it is. If Glennon was such a hot commodity and Denver was sold on him they would not have brought in Sanchez. Jet’s have some cap issues so I can see them taking a little more time to make a move. San Fran is not an option for Glennon especially given Chip Kelly’s gimmick offense. Glennon is not athletic enough to run Kelly’s o. Cleveland all but said they are drafting a qb to compete with RG3. The teams that are desperate for qb’s are dwindling down. Again, if Glennon was so valued teams would have already blown Licht away since qb’s are in such short supply. Draft picks are much more valuable than some like to think on this site. Yes, Glennon maybe better than 5 or 6 current starters but is he that much better to give up valuable draft pick when a team can gamble, he walks next year and throws a but load of cash his way. I have no doubt Glennon will sign a decent deal next off season whether he is successful is another topic completely. He will get his shot. No way he accepts a backup role for bucs. As you have noted Ryan Griffin was kept on the roster for a reason. he is the long term back up for Winston unless he develops, in which case he will be used for picks a year or 2 down the road. Look at what the Pats have done with backups they always seem to turn Brady’s backups into extra picks. Most of which have failed.
March 30th, 2016 at 11:47 am
DB55
wow franchise a backup qb. really… just fyi, this year value for a franchise qb is 20million. 20 million for a player that you HOPE never sees the field is crazy. I am assuming you were joking.
March 30th, 2016 at 12:17 pm
I forgot you have to pay him top tier if you franchise him. Lol. Although I’d argue it well worth the piece of mind. Lol
March 30th, 2016 at 12:50 pm
How about a Glennon statue for Lovies lawn..
March 30th, 2016 at 1:14 pm
Glennon is covered in cobwebs from sitting around waiting for his QB future to begin somewhere. Anywhere.
March 30th, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Am I missing something here ?
Surely Mike Glennon will be a restricted free agent not unrestricted at end of year.
Tender him highly and we get a good backup for another year or at least decent payback if he leaves
Best option is high draft pick trade now but we really don’t have to panic
March 30th, 2016 at 2:01 pm
Might have to stew for a few more weeks… My guess is that this trade goes down on draft day. I mean, why do this trade beforehand unless somebody blows you away with a high-mid second round pick?
Also, moving up 8 spots from 39 to 31 isn’t necessarily a great deal if the player grades are pretty even in that range. On the other hand, if there’s a significant dropoff in that range, it makes sense, especially if there’s a player they covet at a need position.
OK, one scenario where trading Glennon before the draft makes sense – if the Bucs want to trade out of the #9 slot on draft day (up or down), that pick at 31 gives them a little more flexibility to move.
March 30th, 2016 at 2:05 pm
Jaybird98 Says:
March 30th, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Yes, you are.
Unrestricted. Four years in the league.
March 30th, 2016 at 2:32 pm
Tmax.. He didnt call the guys play “turd like”. He flat out called the guy a piece of Sh_t
March 30th, 2016 at 2:51 pm
Brian
I happen to agree with joe when it comes to McClown and find his colorful analogy refreshing in this pathetic PC world we live in. If you are so easily offended maybe JBF is not the right place for you to receive bucs news.
March 30th, 2016 at 4:59 pm
If its a trade with denver it needs to be a second rounder. The 96th pick is not enough for a seasoned and groomed qb that was taken in the third round at an earlier pick. Second round pick or try and extend him. Winston takes a lot of risks with his body and as much as I love his style of play if he gets hurt koetter will be able to get good play out of glennon
March 30th, 2016 at 7:28 pm
@Joe
You have yet to kick around the dreaded franchise tag idea for MG….
Just a thought but if they are seriously considering a two year exten.
Who’s to say he won’t slap the tag on him the next two years (the years we will need a capable back up!)
If a team really wanting him fears that they will give up the booty to the Buccaneers!!!!
BOOM… GM JAB83 trump card…. Lol…. For real why not???