Licht Talks Glennon Trade Demands
March 21st, 2016
GM calls shenanigans on compensation rumor
Bucs general manager Jason Licht was talking about trading Mike Glennon today at the NFL Owners Meetings.
Chris Wesseling, of NFL.com, shared that Licht went deep on various rumors about what the Bucs are seeking in return for their backup QB.
Regarding the chatter in New York that Licht demanded first-round pick from the Jets, Licht called liar, liar pants on fire.
“That’s not true,” Licht said. “I mean, I tell them what I think he’s worth. I tell that to teams. I say, ‘this is what we might consider.’ But that’s not necessarily true. … It’s false that I’ve been calling every team saying I need a first (round pick). I haven’t been calling every team. Even with those that have inquired, it’s been ‘Let’s keep talking.’ It hasn’t been, ‘we need this.'”
There’s more via the link above.
And for the clueless who think the Bucs should hold Glennon and then let him walk so Tampa Bay can secure 2018 compensatory draft pick at the end of the third round, please read this and stop fantasizing.
March 21st, 2016 at 2:48 pm
As much as I do like MG8 and I also like having a solid QB at 1 and 2 ( maybe the best 1 and 2 the Bucs have ever had???) Almost every player has a trade price!!!! In fact there are probably 2 players that are non-negotiable for trade on this team right now,,,, and none of them are on defense!!!!!
March 21st, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Realist
You would need to add LVD to the list.
March 21st, 2016 at 2:56 pm
And I personally would add Kwon Alexander to the list also.
March 21st, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Tampa Bay, on the other hand, should understand that the season is essentially over if Jameis Winston is lost to injury.
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This is only true if we trade Glennon. What we really need to do is make a play for Ramsey. Mortgage the future if you have to. Be reckless! Scared money don’t make money.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:03 pm
The Bucs will have to pay MG8 more than what Winston is making (4 year $25M) for him to stay. What team pays their backup more than their starter?
March 21st, 2016 at 3:06 pm
Nice to see somebody else saying the same thing as has been said here already. We need draft picks and Glennon is a luxury player right now on a team that needs to be running lean to build it up. Teams that are favorites to win it all can afford luxury players like Glennon. The Bucs are hoping for a winning season in 2016 and if that gets them a wild card spot then its a huge win for us.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Pretty sure Light has wanted a 3rd or better for awhile now. Unless we get news on anything that was actually turned down we keep just speculating.
Joe seems antsy over all this and I understand wanting to trade him; but if we knew we were offered only a 5th rounder so far at best then where is the controversy or problem? We have no idea what has been offered or what Light’s tried to make happen. We’re all just commenting on a ton of hypothetical scenarios without knowing wtf is actually going on.
I think if we get a decent offer we will move him (3rd or better). If we only get sh1t offers of a late rounder we will keep him. There is a chance we get a compensatory pick in that scenario and a chance we get none. I think that covers every element of this story lol
March 21st, 2016 at 3:10 pm
@DB55
It’s not out of the question to make a play for Ramsey. Simply trade MG8 to the Browns to move up from 8th to 2nd. Of course we wait until Tennessee actually takes Tunsil before executing the trade thereby guaranteeing us Ramsey.
Cleveland solves their QB issue without even spending a pick…just dropping 7 spots…great deal for them…and great deal for us if Ramsey is all that!
I’m neither a Nole nor a Gator but I try to watch both teams when they are readily available and I cheer for both of them and their players. It just seems that everytime I did watch FSU Ramsey was a force on defense.
We can probably get Hargreaves at #9. So basically you have to ask yourself is Ramsey enough of an upgrade over Hargreaves to justify MG8?
Scouts and pundits are making Ramsey sound like the next coming of Ed Reed.
If he’s all that. Gotta pull the trigger for a true “franchise” player.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:10 pm
oops typo…9th to 2nd.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:11 pm
“The Bucs will have to pay MG8 more than what Winston is making (4 year $25M) for him to stay. What team pays their backup more than their starter?”
Not sure what you’re talking about as the Bucs still have Glennon on his 3rd round rookie deal which is less than Winston’s by a good chunk. This isn’t talking about re-signing Glennon which won’t happen.
Also for the f*ck of it this happened in Seattle when they drafted Russel Wilson. They were paying him like a couple hundred thousand and starting him over Matt Flynn who was making millions
March 21st, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Cleveland won’t trade for glennon when they have a potential franchise QB in a he 2nd spot and they already have their bridge QB till the rookie is ready in josh Mcclown, I get it glennon is better than mcclown, but I hope licht likes Glennon and doesn’t send him to QB hell
March 21st, 2016 at 3:28 pm
The Bucs gave a third round pick for Glennon. Why should they take less than a second rounder? Most third round quaterbacks don’t ever become the primary starter for a team. Glennon is an exception, at least in actual potential. That is what his trading is all about. Some team in dire need will pony up.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:29 pm
@Stpetebucsfan
That actually sounds like a good idea. We trade a player that we will lose anyhow to move up and be able to take whoever we want.
When’s the last time the same two teams have picked 1 and 2 in back to back years?
March 21st, 2016 at 3:33 pm
I still think the fact that other than Osweiler trade there has been very little QB activity. There are allot of QBs looking for work, I think the QB needy teams are waiting to see how Glennon pans out. I predict that the day MG8 gets traded, Fitzpatrick and RG3 sign with teams that missed out. Kaepernick may even get traded the next day. I think after Osweiler MG8 is the biggest QB asset available, and I don’t think anyone is in love with this year’s QBs in the draft.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:41 pm
I would rather gain a pick then move up.
In the case of the Bucs, it’s just as much a need of quantity as it is of quality.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:45 pm
SPBF – I agree that would be an excellent usage of Glennon’s trade value.
Ramsey is the real deal. 6-1″, 4.4-40, 41″ vertical. A rue generational type DB prospect.
Hargreaves will be a good NFL player most likely – but Ramsey has all the intangibles to be exceptional. I would trade Glennon to draft Ramsey in 1/2 a second.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:46 pm
true
March 21st, 2016 at 3:56 pm
Like I’ve been saying. Licht will take nothing less than a 2nd and I just dont think anyone will give that up for an unknown. They would rather wait til he’s a free agent and shower him with money than give up a high draft pick.
March 21st, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Db55: they wouldn’t be givin up money, they’d be giving up assets… Two different things. You don’t mortgage the farm for one really good cow
March 21st, 2016 at 4:05 pm
Licht wants a 4. No one is willing to even give up a 6. Lmao
March 21st, 2016 at 4:09 pm
“This isn’t talking about re-signing Glennon which won’t happen.”
There are many people who want to see Glennon resigned next year, which is ridiculous for the reasons both of us explained.
March 21st, 2016 at 4:10 pm
SPBF
We can probably get Hargreaves at #9. So basically you have to ask yourself is Ramsey enough of an upgrade over Hargreaves to justify MG8?
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Without question! He can play 2 positions, he takes over games and he’s the messiah’s best friend. Give Cle #9, 1 of our 6th rnd picks and MG8. Maybe even a conditional pick in 2017 if necessary.
Btw I’m a proud member of the MGM but I’d trade him for Ramsey without hesitation.
March 21st, 2016 at 4:13 pm
we have soo many holes I don’t know where to start….I would want to focus on the trenches first…trade down maybe to get a few extra picks…at #9 I think we take the BPA…GO BUCS!!!
March 21st, 2016 at 4:14 pm
*so
March 21st, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Bucfan951 Says:
March 21st, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Db55: they wouldn’t be givin up money, they’d be giving up assets… Two different things. You don’t mortgage the farm for one really good cow
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Scared money – means you have to take risks not referring specifically to money. I have to disagree about mortgaging the farm for a really good cow especially if the cow is better than the next 3 Heffers combined.
Licht wouldn’t have to give up two 1st rnd picks like we did to get Revis so he wouldn’t even be giving away the future.
March 21st, 2016 at 4:24 pm
@db55…Hargreaves can play 2 positions as well cb/slot…ramsey can play cb/s…I don’t think they’re that far a part aside from the height…when you watch the film both look like they run 4.4…both make plays..I think they’re both great players and they both would fill a position of need but for ramsey we would have to give up a draft pick or 2…the last thing this team needs is to give up draft picks regardless if its a late round pick…GO BUCS!!!
March 21st, 2016 at 4:31 pm
I really don’t know how the “tenders” work, but would it be possible for us to put a second rd tender on Glennon next year like we did with Bradley McDougald?
March 21st, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Bucboi
So it’s a quantity over quality argument? Remember this, you always get what you pay for, quality always beats quantity.
March 21st, 2016 at 4:46 pm
Really don’t understand what the urgency is Joe to trade Mike Glennon. This is making the Bucs look desperate, and they’re anything but that. Glennon’s value will almost surely go up as we get closer to season start … with 31 other teams in the league, one or more will most likely lose their starting QB. Bucs are probably in a better position than any team to part with their backup QB (since we have TWO). Glad Licht seems to have more patience than many writers and fans.
March 21st, 2016 at 5:05 pm
@db55…exactly…there’s great defensive quality in later rounds…why lose picks?…GO BUCS!!!!
March 21st, 2016 at 5:07 pm
Just a reminder that the “NFL draft value” chart, while not an absolute, lists the point value of the 2nd overall pick @ 2600 points, and the 9th overall pick at 1300 points. So for anyone saying that Cleveland might be willing to move down in the draft from #2 to #9 by adding in Mike Glennon, is implicitly arguing that MG8 is not only worth a 1st round pick, but that he is worth a top ten 1st round pick, since the 10th pick in the first round is valued at 1300 points. In other words,
#2 pick = 2600 points
#9 pick = 1350, so if MG8 makes up the difference, then MG8 = ~1300 points, which is the value of the 10th overall pick in the first round.
tickrdr
March 21st, 2016 at 5:33 pm
Tickrdr
Why you gotta bring facts into this? Argh! I just looked at the chart and there’s really no way to move up to #2 without giving away the farm. Thanks Obama!
March 21st, 2016 at 6:16 pm
@The Realist: I would add all of the Black Defensive Players to that list just to piss you off!
March 21st, 2016 at 6:29 pm
If Glennon is gonna walk anyways after this year..Why not get something for him other than a compensatory pick? A third or 4th rounder is much better than a comp 7th rd pick the following year.
March 21st, 2016 at 6:34 pm
there is a better chance at Denver swapping pick 32 with our 2nd rounder for Glennon
March 21st, 2016 at 7:29 pm
@DefenseRules
Exactly……have some patience….as we near the draft or even the season teams not even in play now could be then due to an injury.
I think some teams will become very nervous about their QB position…..even during the draft a team could be surprised to lose a QB off their board.
I think is highly likely that we intend to move Glennon….why else would we have kept Ryan Griffin on the active roster all last season?
Patience….Patience
March 21st, 2016 at 8:29 pm
Glennon will probably be used as a pawn in a trade up move somewhere in round 2 or 3 is my guess, possibly pick #32 if there’s nothing on the board that Denver really likes. That is probably beyond best case scenario. Glennon has value, sure, but I’m not sure it’s as high as some think.
March 21st, 2016 at 8:35 pm
….and I don’t belive for a second that Denver goes into next season with Mark Sanchez as their starter. They will bring someone else in. In my mind, Denver is Glennon’s landing spot, I just have a feeling about it.
March 21st, 2016 at 9:24 pm
I wouldnt trade banks either….he is going to have his best season
March 22nd, 2016 at 12:36 am
They are going to trade MG and get a 3rd or higher.
So they will have 4 picks in the first four rounds barring a trade, in no particular order-
DE
CB
S
LB
WR
Rd 5-7 will include OL
This is a guess but I would not be surprised one bit if they don’t take a lb and
use the second with a low rounder to trade in to the bottom of the first for ANOTHER DE.
Something like Buckner or Lawson at 9 and trading back on to land a Spence if he drops or Ogbah.
March 22nd, 2016 at 12:37 am
I meant 5 in the first 4
March 22nd, 2016 at 12:43 am
What is wrong with people ??? Trade up from 9??
Give away picks and Glennon for a couple spots ??
Not a chance.
This draft is deep at the Bucs needed position of DE. The only trade possibility I see is back in to the bottom of round 1 to land Ogbah or Spence at DE if he falls.
March 22nd, 2016 at 7:14 am
DB55 Says
“So it’s a quantity over quality argument? Remember this, you always get what you pay for, quality always beats quantity.”
Read it again. I said as much a quantity as quality. Meaning BOTH are important.
March 22nd, 2016 at 7:19 am
Dave nailed it.