Licht On A Fishing Expedition?
March 14th, 2016
More Mike Glennon trade chatter surfaces.
It seems Bucs AC/DC-loving Jason Licht is on a fishing trip. And he’s floating bait to see if he can lure that last big ol’ fish.
In this case, the elusive catch is a first round draft pick. And Licht’s bait, if one is to believe Bleacher Report, is backup quarterback Mike Glennon.
That’s the word from hard-working Matt Miller. Per Miller, several suits from various NFL teams have told him Glennon is being shopped to quarterback-needy teams, so long as they cough up a first-round pick.
After Colin Kaepernick, the quarterback most teams are interested in on the trade block is Mike Glennon. I’m told by multiple general managers and pro personnel directors that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have floated that they want a first-round draft pick for him, but would accept a third from a team with a high pick in the round.
Now this report is not consistent at all with the report from heavy metal headbanging Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports, which claimed Licht turned down a second-round pick for Glennon.
Joe has seen Miller work in person at the NFL Scouting Combine and the guy is a grinder. And he claims he has multiple sources from different teams, folks who converse with Licht. It seems like Miller’s report has some meat on the bone.
Joe can only assume teams that believe they are a decent quarterback away from a Super Bowl run would be that desperate to part with a first round pick; Denver and the New York Jets spring to mind. Perhaps one could throw Buffalo or Los Angeles into that group, the latter trying to make a splash in a new market that only pays attention to splash.
La Canfora says Licht rejected a second-rounder. Now Miller claims Licht would accept a high-third round pick. Something doesn’t add up.
Joe trusts La Canfora. However, he didn’t name the team that reportedly offered up a second-round pick.
Joe will write this: If Licht really is offered a first-round pick for Glennon and doesn’t pull the trigger, then that is simply reckless. Glennon is in the final year of his contract, and the way teams are panhandling for quarterbacks, he’s due to hit the lottery. Glennon is as good as gone next year.
Again, a trusted Bucs source firmly told Joe a month ago, in no uncertain terms, that Glennon was not on the trade block, no matter how much sense it made to obtain a nice draft pick for a guy who one hopes never sees the playing field.
This whole issue is intriguing.
March 14th, 2016 at 2:36 am
Miller’s report sounds like bullsh-t. No decent negotiator says they want such and such (for example a first round draft pick) but we’ll settle for such and such (for example a high third rounder). Only a fool reveals what they will accept while at the same time asking for more. You destroy your own leverage the very moment you say such a thing. At that point no one in their right mind will give you what you want…they’ll offer you what you’ll take.
So this sounds to me like some NFL types have been offered Glennon for a first round pick, but they’re throwing this high-third-rounder stuff out there to Miller as their public counter-offer to Licht. At the same time, it also accomplishes communicating to the rest of the league that Glennon is on offer for a first rounder but we haven’t offered more than a high third rounder for him. This drives the market down for Glennon and prevents the Bucs from creating a public narrative that someone out there is willing to part with a first or second round pick.
In a nutshell, someone out there knows what Licht is trying to do and is calling his bluff while at the same time driving the market lower for Glennon. This is a smart move by this (these) execs, especially if they are truly interested in Glennon. It’s a battle of public narratives, and it seems Licht’s bluff is being called. Will he hold out? Will he really keep Glennon all year like he’s stated he would? Or will these two sides end up somewhere in the middle with a second round pick being the final price? We’ll see how big Licht’s balls really are I think.
March 14th, 2016 at 3:26 am
So as long as the Bucs sign the same number of players that they lose in free agency next year they could get a 3rd round compensatory pick in the 2018, if Glennon signs with another team after this season? So yea.. I can see why Licht is holding out for a first or second round pick. Plus if we keep him we will have a quality back-up for Winston on the cheap. The Jets still have not re-signed Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is better than Glennon. But I would start Glennon over Colin Kaepernick and RG III. Denver has signed Mark Sanchez so who’s left, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Cleveland? Johnny’s available now too. Heck Jason, just swap number ones with Clevelands for MG8 and draft Jalen Ramsey.
March 14th, 2016 at 4:32 am
Yep, Ive always thought that could be a possibility godzilla. And it would def be for Ramsey. But if we could get a 2nd rounder, I would take it. Im pretty sure nobody will outright give us their 1st. We’d have to throw in some of our own draft picks for that to happen.
March 14th, 2016 at 5:59 am
I would hold out closer to the draft. Looks like a team might give up a 2nd and 4th for Glennon. Licht knows what he is doing, this QB market is VERY thin, and the draft is not as good at the QB spot.
March 14th, 2016 at 6:20 am
If we get a 2nd for this checkdown throwing giraffe, jump on it.
March 14th, 2016 at 6:31 am
Then you have 2 picks in the 1st round which you trade to Tennessee for the number 1 overall pick and we land BOSA
March 14th, 2016 at 6:33 am
Denver is about the only team desperate enough to give up thier 1st round pick for Glennon
March 14th, 2016 at 6:42 am
If Kap is the QB most team want why would they give up a 1st for Glennon and not for Kap there is no owner who would allow his GM to give up a 1st for Glennon. Glennon has a small sample size of experience but a football team tanked to get a rookie to take his place.
March 14th, 2016 at 6:43 am
I wonder if it depends on the team asking. There could be a schedule tax that Licht has put on him where it costs more to acquire Glennon for teams on the schedule and even more of they’re in our division.
March 14th, 2016 at 6:46 am
Anything offered in Round two or three you gotta do it, and parlay it back into the first round.
March 14th, 2016 at 7:03 am
Glennon is gone after this season, so if offered a 3 or better you got to pull the trigger!
March 14th, 2016 at 7:05 am
Mike Glennon is our Jason Garrett. But if we’re offered a 1st round draft pick, he gots ta go. Just sayin’
March 14th, 2016 at 7:20 am
godzilla13 … “So as long as the Bucs sign the same number of players that they lose in free agency next year they could get a 3rd round compensatory pick in the 2018”.
Hadn’t thought of that Godzilla but you’re right since Glennon was drafted in the 3rd round. That being the case, trading him for a 3rd round pick makes no sense, especially when so many teams lack either a starting QB or a decent backup QB. And teams will get more desperate as season start gets closer. Licht’s just being patient … no need to jump too early.
Oh and by the way, GhostofSchiano … if we do end up with TWO 1st round picks (from trading Glennon), I sure wouldn’t trade them BOTH for the right to draft Bosa. I’m not even sure that I’d draft him if he fell all the way to #9. Also doubt that the SB champs are ‘desperate’ … they’ve got enough trade-bait on their roster to get just about what they want.
March 14th, 2016 at 7:22 am
@crusty crab
The reason ppl aren’t gonna give a high draft pick for Kap is because they know that the Niners want to part with him so that right there drives the price down and he had a down year last season versus Glennon wich had a pretty good season for a rookie (19TD’s vs. 9 pics) with no O-line and no weapons. Tim Wright was his best weapon that season. That says all u need to know.
I think Glennon still has a lot of upside and can be a pretty good QB if u surround him with some weapons and a good team. He is worth a second rnd pick and if a team is desperate enough to cough up there late rnd 1 then we gotta steal
March 14th, 2016 at 7:29 am
We acquired Ryan Griffin and kept him on the active roster all year…..why would we do that if we weren’t moving Glennon.
We have many positions of need so a trade rather than a draft pick is possible.
I’m quite certain a deal will be done.
March 14th, 2016 at 7:31 am
Work your magic Licht! That would be phenomenal if we could get a 2nd or a 1st for a QB that will walk next season anyways.
That would be another highly talented player that would come in and start. There’s a lot of DL that are late 1st rd early 2nd Rd picks so that would be nice to add another piece to the Line.
March 14th, 2016 at 8:47 am
The Rams have 2 2nd rounders and case keenum is their QB1 for now got to wait to see where Fitzpatrick kap and rg3 end up…Browns jets Rams Broncos 49ers seem like the only QB hungry teams left…Browns n 49ers are only QB needy teams that can draft goff/wentz….so jets Rams n Broncos are left and glennon ranks behind fitz n kap but bout even with rg3 so the market isn’t as open as it seems
March 14th, 2016 at 8:51 am
NOBODY will give up a 1st for him. But with so many needy team’s, I think a 2nd could be a very realistic possibility….especially in the mid to late 2nd. I’d take that in a heartbeat. Too many holes on this team not to take that. This draft isn’t particularly loaded with star talent at the top, but it is very deep at DL and S, and perhaps even CB. Whaddya know, those are the biggest needs. Make it happen.
March 14th, 2016 at 8:55 am
* needy teams (sorry, that was bothering me lol)
March 14th, 2016 at 9:17 am
Don’t forget about the Cowboys either they need a solid backup after seeing their performance with Romo out.
March 14th, 2016 at 9:20 am
Bucs get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him why trade him for less than a 2nd? That would be crazy..
March 14th, 2016 at 9:45 am
I think a trade is more likely.
March 14th, 2016 at 10:04 am
If licht can get anything higher than a 4th for Glennon he will be able to get at least a 3rd round pick for the beer guy from section 145…
March 14th, 2016 at 10:21 am
It’s not guaranteed bucs will get a 3rd. Considering playing time is heavily weighted and Glennon does not take very many if any snaps that will lower the pick. Again for those saying it’s an automatic 3rd round pick it is not….
Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.
March 14th, 2016 at 10:52 am
It will be interesting to see what happens here.
There is great benefit to the team in keeping Glennon for another year. Even though its insurance – you are getting a top quality back-up for a very cheap price this year. IF Winston misses any games due to injury – you have a capable QB who can still win games for you. The other big benefit to keeping MG is his presence every day in the QB meeting room. Mike is very smart and I guarantee you his perspectives, advice based on experience and the competition he brings on the practice field are all very good for the continuing development of Jameis Winston.
If we are likely to get a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick when Glennon signs a contract that we are not willing to match next year – I can understand the temptation to keep him another year for all the benefits mentioned above.
One issue with that, however, is that the compensatory pick would not be received until the following year (2018 draft). Since we are still in building mode now – and have a # of spots on the defense that need talent upgrades NOW – a mid to high 2nd round pick or better in THIS deep draft that matches up well with our biggest needs would seem to be the more beneficial thing for the team in the long run. So if Licht can get a 2nd round pick from a Cleveland or a Dallas or a SF this year – then that would likely bring you an impact player and is a deal that must be accepted.
Just as Licht does – I see a lot of value in keeping MG for another year. But if a team is willing to part with a top 40 pick for his rights – then that’s a deal you take – and just cross your fingers that Jameis doesn’t get hurt and that Ryan Griffen is ready for prime time if the worst does happen.
March 14th, 2016 at 10:59 am
I think Joe’s source in the Bucs organization was wrong…or things have changed since Joe talked to him. That does happen, I suppose.
If Jason Licht we to get a 1st rounder…or a 2nd and 3rd rounder…He will score major, major points with me.
March 14th, 2016 at 2:25 pm
Glennon sucks, get rid of him. Oh he’s not that bad, somebody surely will drop a high pick to get him. The QB of the unknown future.