Bucs No. 25
March 6th, 2016
“I squeezed three years out of the Bucs!”
Joe has heard chatter at NFL events recently that the Bucs job, in general, is not a good job. In other words, it’s an NFL coaching graveyard.
Better win and win now or you will be looking for another job quickly. Joe can see how some conclude that when, in retrospect, Raheem Morris had longevity with a three-year stint.
In a recent article in The Sporting News, the entire NFL was put under a microscope to determine the coaching jobs. The Bucs ranked in the bottom third at No. 25.
The Lowdown: It’s pretty simple analysis. Since firing Gruden, the Buccaneers are set to hire their fourth coach since 2008. They haven’t reached the playoffs since Gruden left.
Yes, the Curse of Chucky, or something like that. How else to explain all the bad luck the Bucs have had, from a blown touchdown call that cost the Bucs a 2010 playoff berth to the MRSA to pushing Darrelle Revis out the door?
Yet, Joe has hope. And that hope springs from America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston!
March 6th, 2016 at 11:08 am
Moronic Mark Dominic is another reason for all that bad luck
March 6th, 2016 at 11:14 am
The Curse of Chucky has nothing to do with Revis, Penn, and Zutah being shown the door. That’s more like the decision to give Lovie full control. Let’s call it the The Curse of Horrible Management!
March 6th, 2016 at 11:15 am
James lol correct!
March 6th, 2016 at 11:17 am
Well just look at the coaches we have hired. Raheem was ok, but being a young inexperienced HC, did him in. Especially being a players coach and letting them do whatever. Then Shiano was a real piece of work.(sh!t) Him and Lovie had the worst pressers I’ve ever seen from HC’s. Lovie was stuck in the past. With Koetter I think we got a good one. He is a No BS coach. I’m excited to see what he can do and where we’re headed now.
March 6th, 2016 at 11:22 am
Bad hirings after firing Gruden. Lovie was the only head coach with legitimate NFL experience that was hired during that period.
March 6th, 2016 at 11:45 am
Yeah but the Bucs are about to break out of that old style of ineptness, can’t you just feel it? It’s like the negative weight of an “easy” schedule has been lifted off their backs.
March 6th, 2016 at 11:53 am
I loved Schiano’s pressers. Then again, I’m literate.
March 6th, 2016 at 11:56 am
By the way, our new coach lost points by crying in his 1st presser, in my book. I have great hope for his coaching. Hoping it doesn’t make us cry.
March 6th, 2016 at 12:23 pm
Joe,
There’s no curse we just simply did not make the right hires. But hopefully I think we finally got it right!
The concern is who will step in for Mike Smith when he leaves because I got a feeling this defense is going to be significantly better without Lovie and his rotten defense.
March 6th, 2016 at 12:23 pm
Joe(s)… I would much rather put my faith in THIS coahing staff… the best the BUCS have had in years (Dungy era ?)…. maybe the BEST ever… I believe the coaching staffs have been the problem for the long drought. … and as far as Jameis goes… what is Joe going to do if, with his SLOW feet (or at least awkward feet, Jameis goes down in game 4 or 5 next year ? ,,, give up ???… stop writing about his feeling about the Bucs (except for sorrow) ????
I suggest Joe(s) put their faith in something more substantial than besides Jameis….
March 6th, 2016 at 12:27 pm
It all happened on Gruden’s watch he was handed a Superbowl defense and once he won the Superbowl the talent on the team got old he never developed a young QB. Was in love with aging veterans. Why doesn’t Gruden get any of the blame for the way he and his GM left this team in shambles.
March 6th, 2016 at 12:28 pm
I agree with Danati74, look at who we have hired since Chucky. Morris and Schiano were untested and Lovie while a big name Dungy discple epitomized the quote “Its as simple as that.” There is nothing simple about developing a playoff contender. Finally Mark Dominic added to the chaos that is now the team we see in Tampa today. If Licht, Jamesis, and Koetter (plus Mike Smith) can salvage the mess created since Gruden it may be a New Day in Tampa Bay.
March 6th, 2016 at 12:45 pm
Can’t really call ‘pushing Revis out the door’ bad luck – Bucs did that deliberately.
March 6th, 2016 at 12:46 pm
Bucs are having Charles Johnson in for a visit. Is it just me, or have we had enough bad luck with Johnsons? ie: Michael, George. There can’t be that many bad Johnsons in the world.
March 6th, 2016 at 1:13 pm
@CrustyCrab…. I agree 100 % !!! I LOVED the Gruden hire ! I remember buying an issue of Playboy back then which had an article about Gruden… Of course, I loved his first season ant the Super Bowl !! That euphoria lasted about 3-4 years… at which time… I threw the magazine away !! Gruden lied (deceived) his players – face to face—- and I have no respect for a man like that ! Also, you are correct … he was in love with veteran QBs— not a bad thing on the surface… but he certainly had no foresight in developing a young QB (i.e., Gradkowski)…. absolutely terrible development… expect qa young QB to know/learn all the intracacies bout QB play in the NFL…. IMPOSSIBLE ! (now … maybe… just maybe… if Jameis had been around about 15 years earlier… Jameis could have handled that… but all Gruden did was confuse and BREAK young QBs…. which, ironcally, did nothing but reinforce his believf that old QBs were better options — TERRIBLE developer of QBs !!
March 6th, 2016 at 2:56 pm
A$$ hat Mark Dominic. You have to stop being obtuse and realize it was half a decade of bad drafting.
March 6th, 2016 at 3:07 pm
@crusty
you are right about Gruden/allen.Bruce Allen is now in Washinton taking heat for the bad job of managing the personnel there.i believe washinton was where the original over the hill gangwas put together by George Allen.
March 6th, 2016 at 3:13 pm
The common denominator is the Glazers.
They are bad owners.
March 6th, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Biggest reason the Bucs have mostly sucked for the last 12 years is because 10 of those years they had GMs who had no clue and were terrible talent evaluators.
Allen and Dominic were a lethal 1-2 punch to our team’s chances because their drafting was so consistently bad. Yes the coaches hired have been sub-par – but even a coach who is not an A-lister can win a reasonable amount of games with raw talent. We simply have not had enough talent to compete until just recently.
Licht is changing that in a hurry. If Jason can have some successes in free agency and continue to do well in drafting talent, The Bucs are going to be a force to be reckoned with for years to come now that we have Jameis and a solid base of young talent starting to develop.
March 6th, 2016 at 4:25 pm
What’s this? Pin the tail on the donkey?
March 6th, 2016 at 4:33 pm
Our Bucs ranked in the bottom third of desirable coaching jobs at 25. That’s all one needs to know. History does not lie. Only Buc fans and their media can craftly..spin and deceived themselves.
March 6th, 2016 at 4:51 pm
When I saw the headline, I was hoping Jason Licht traded some players to get us the 25th pick in addition to the 9th.
I should have known better.
March 6th, 2016 at 6:04 pm
Allen and that idiot school boy Domanick were a lethal 1-2 death punch for this team no doubt…The leperchauns are extreamly bad owners but in the NFL good scouting and player personel and coaching/drafting can overcome that..
Anyone remember the article about that property manager in Tampa who was suing brian or joel(I think it was brian) over something like a half of year of non rental payment and that he destroyed the place,specificaly and allegedly the place was trashed and that he destroyed the living room concrete foundation because he yanked his giant $$$$ safe out ..They couldnt find him so they wrote an article in the Trib ..Anyways if true this was the same year Gruden got fired and those actions of our owner were just a prelude of suckyness to come in Tampa…
Allen was bad but Dominick really screwed us…
Like I said though great coaching and player personel (Koetter and his staff along with lichts outstanding talent evaluation) can over come crap owners.
March 6th, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Im trying to be optimistic, but please joe winston was not a pro bowl quarterback in his rookie year. Maybe if they had a pro bowl stricktly for rookies, than yes Id say he performed well but hea not there yet. He has a lot to prove yet. I do think he will be a big part in the changing of the tides around hete, but I also think koetter will too.
I am very concerned with the hiring of mike smith. I hope he proves me wrong and I do think he will do better than lovie and frazier, but thats not saying much at all. We need an above avwrage defense or at yhe minimum average. Anything better than that is just icing on the cake. It takes balance to win on all three phases. Defense is still my concerned. There are a lot of different guys I would have chose. Hopefully if it doesnt work out koetter doesnt stay to loyal to smith. That was lovies problem. Being too loyal to his coaches and his out dated ststem.
March 6th, 2016 at 9:32 pm
It’s the NFL coaching graveyard because heretofore the Bucs have hired a bunch of stiffs.
March 7th, 2016 at 2:28 am
No one ever acknowledges it but Raheem Morris deserves an awful lot more credit than is available for the job he did under the circumstances.
That includes unexpectedly filling Gruden’s and Kiffen’s shoes, dealing with a rookie GM, cutting Brooks Dunn Galloway, just the cutting of Brooks unceremoniously (rookie GMs call apparently), nutcase Talib, rookie QB, unrealistic expectations from fans, no $$ spent in FA, etc..,
It was an effin sht show that poor Raheem turned into a really fun 10 win season that almost saw us in the the playoffs. I flew in to attend that Detroit game with the aforementioned shtty call and wanted to fight just about everyone after that game.
Morris had at least found a way by year 2 to win football games. It was not always pretty but we had an attitude that year and the team was having fun.
Where’s the joy since?