“Toes On The Line!”
February 20th, 2016
Intense as ever.
Joe likes to keep fans abreast of what former Tampa Bay coaches are doing. So this leads Joe to a fun tidbit on former Bucs commander Greg Schiano.
Once pilloried across the Tampa Bay area by a shameful stunt from some two-bit-radio advertising jerk who plastered Schiano’s good name on billboards (where were those same f’ing billboards for Lovie, you arse? Hope you’re selling used cars in Shreveport now), Schiano, in retrospect, hardly looks as bad as Lovie Smith.
After taking a couple of years off to work briefly with NFL Network and BSPN, Schiano is now the defensive coordinator at The Ohio State. And it seems he’s having a helluva time in Columbus.
Per ElevenWarriors.com, Schiano recently got his hands (and feet and legs and arms and, yes, presumably toes) dirty challenging his players to a tug-of-war match. You can watch the video here.
Toes on the line, indeed!
Joe can only hope other football minds in the NFL pull as hard as Schiano in an effort to drag Toast Jenkins away from Tampa Bay.
February 20th, 2016 at 8:21 am
Lovie smith gets to look up to both Raheem and Schiano on the bucs all time win list for all of eternity… Lovie was the biggest mistake in Buccaneers history with the exception of Josh McClown oh wait Lovie was responsible for that disaster too.
February 20th, 2016 at 8:34 am
Tmaxcon, top of the morning brotha. Hope all is well
Joe, thanks for the post. Question is there a Joebucsfan app? If not, is there one in the works for 2016?
February 20th, 2016 at 8:34 am
I liked Schiano when he coached the Bucs. This present gig I no longer do.
February 20th, 2016 at 8:36 am
In retrospect my $ss, Schiano is the sole reason this team is where it is today, he did nothing positive at all during his time here, he is the reason Freeman is out of the league, he broke this team down mentally, with his high school rules and regulations, THE TEAM QUIT ON HIM, there’s no way he did a better job than LOVIE!! And he didn’t get THE BACK STABBING Lovie took!! TOES ON THE LINE: A TOTAL JACK-$SS!!
February 20th, 2016 at 8:37 am
Tmax–
If you think those were the biggest disasters, you weren’t a Buc fan for too long.
Can you say Leeman Bennett?
I knew you could.
0-26?
The beat goes on.
February 20th, 2016 at 8:54 am
Schiano didn’t have the nfl level resume to deserve the benefit of doubt for his 2 rough years in Tampa.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:11 am
Lou
Actually Lovie and Leeman Bennett are fairly equal on the bucs win’s list. Lovie only won 4 more games during the same time frame and he had the benefit of free agency and a better roster so you are not comparing apples to apples. No coach did as bad as Job for buccaneers than Lovie smith. His game day management was atrocious his staff was freinds and family and his record number of free agent busts not to mention his 32 million plus in dead money that puts Lovie has the clear number ONE mistake of all time. Even George W. Bush and Obama were impressed that Lovie could waste so much cash so fast…
The only backstabbing that went on was each Lovie Smith press conferences where he stated we are getting better or we are on the verge while he methodically plunged the knife into each fans back one by one.
Thankfully that mistake is gone and it’s onto greener pastures. Living in the past is a huge mistake and never works hopefully the glazer clowns have learned that lesson once and for all.
The future is bright for the bucs!
February 20th, 2016 at 9:12 am
Coach Schiano never had a chance with at the time the NFL’s worst GM!!! He saved the Glazers millions upon millions about figuring out Jfro-6 pak in days what it took years for some of the sheep!!! He saw how mentally weak the team was and trying to coach it out of the terrible roster ( which at the time the sheep that was chalked full of talent and stars being held back!!!
And the Local media basically slander him for it!! They never liked him from the start!!! and why, cause he coached Rutgers?? because he did not run the cover2 defense?? He is still the Hero that saved this Franchise by getting rid of the pop-star, even though he had to sacrifice himself!!
And even though the local media that treated him like crap, and slandered and misreported stories!! He still had the CLASS to hold a offsite press conference to Thank the fans and Bucs for the opportunity!!!
February 20th, 2016 at 9:14 am
Luvmybucs
doing well sir. hope all is good in your world…
got any mid round de’s or wr’s you like?
February 20th, 2016 at 9:18 am
@Big hog HAynes
Not true bad drafting and free agent selection date back to post superbowl
years with gruden/bruce allen, getting too many aging veterans on team of salary cap issues.If any of the preceding drafts were half as successful as the last two we would have a much better team.This team has quit or mailed it in with every one of past three coaches way too many times.Drafting builds teams and bad drafts have caused the general degrading of this team going back ten years or more.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:34 am
Schiano screwed the pooch with Freeman and Blount, but we have to thank him and the Glazers for instigating the chain of events that brought us Koetter and Winston. Lengendary teams have a great HC and a great QB. For the very first time in four decades, I believe the Bucs may have that. Time will tell. Hopefully the Glazers will keep these two together for the next decade or two. Great franchises stay the course for the long haul. Licht appears to be a great as well. Keep it together. I’ve seen enough transitions. Aim for stability.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:39 am
@1sparkybuc
Not to mention the release of Michael Bennett which Dom recently came out and stated that he didn’t agree with but it was “an organizational decision”.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:48 am
@LUVMYBUCS
There is an rs feed app that has joe as one of his tabs. Its very useful for keeping up to date with bucs news, and best of all it’s free! Just search JD Tampa Bay.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:49 am
Schiano (The Little General) always reminded me of a bad military leader who decimates his troops the first chance they get to impress their instructors back at West Point.
His 110 x 16 gauntlets were similar to the Charge of the Light Brigade. When he stepped back and surveyed the battlefield and saw the decimation that he caused, he reverted to CYA and traded or cut his victims.
He resorted to vengeful attacks against a projectile vomiting QB who
was clearly the leader of the team.
Greg lost the locker room on the very first day.
Back in Viet Nam, he would have been fragged or been the victim of friendly fire, but in the NFL, he was richly rewarded.
February 20th, 2016 at 9:50 am
@waterboy
Funny, cause Dom (pop-star) also said the Jfro was first in the building and last out!!! And that was a flat out lie!!!
Its weird that M Bennett was with the Bucs since 2009 and Coach Schaino was the only one to start him for 16 games in a season!!! Or it could have just been that the pop-star is blaming the medical staff that he got bad intel when he just wanted to protect his draft picks into more starting time!!!!
February 20th, 2016 at 10:01 am
Tmaxon – I’ll break a few down next week
Random fan
Thank you for the Intel
February 20th, 2016 at 10:27 am
Schiano was far superior to Lovely Smith.
February 20th, 2016 at 10:28 am
I think Schiano learned quite a bit at the NFL level. He will be a great college HC in the near future. I wish him nothing but the best.
February 20th, 2016 at 10:34 am
I think lovie learned absolutely nothing his last years at the NFL level. He will be a great college position coach. I wish he was gone sooner!!!
February 20th, 2016 at 10:39 am
Realist …I don’t think Lovely will coach anywhere the rest of his life. Either by choice or simply lack of interest by anyone.
This includes Pop Warner and Pee Wee. lol
February 20th, 2016 at 10:51 am
Lovie is the gap in Schiano’s teeth!
February 20th, 2016 at 11:09 am
First off, saying Greg Schiano did nothing for this team is wrong. So is saying the team quit on him, which they didn’t. They just were not good enough.
Schiano brought massive discipline to the team after Raheem Morris completely destroyed it. Blaming him for FREEMAN is a complete joke. Freeman had depression and other mental issues that caused his downfall. His medication is what did him in.
As to Lovie, the only reason ANYONE HERE thinks he did nothing is because you refuse to give him credit for the good things.
Case in point…you say Licht finally has all the power…which is inferring he did not while Lovie was here. If Lovie had all the power, then he made the draft picks. It’s that simple.
If Licht made the picks, then Lovie never had all the power after all, in which case that makes Licht responsible for the normal GM moves…such as free agents, trades, etc.
Lovie’s job was to coach. To be the face of the team. Licht might have looked at Lovie’s wishlist and brought in a couple players (McCown), but most were Jason Licht’s fault.
The only other scenario is that both Lovie and Licht worked together, in an equal capacity. That means they should share the good credit and the bad credit.
But no. You people want to blame Lovie for everything, and give Licht a pass on everything. Sorry, it just doesn’t work that way.
February 20th, 2016 at 11:42 am
I agree with Bob in Valrico!
bad drafting and free agent selection date back to post superbowl
years with gruden/bruce allen, getting too many aging veterans on team of salary cap issues.
The disaster goes all the way back to Chucky who fell in love to often with over the hill vets. Chucky’s success as a coach was always predicated on his lack of control over player selection. He took Wyche/Dungy players and won a Super Bowl. That’s good coaching. Then as Bob pointed out he started a real downward spiral of talent when he got too much control.
As for Schiano…he was just as pathetic as Lovie when it came to game day prep and decisions. He had ZERO feel for a game. When we caught Seattle…eventual SB winners..asleep in their own house and MG8 was on fire…stupid Schiano put the reins on a red hot offense so his defense could lose the game for us. Schiano and Lovie are two peas out of the same pod. Defensive coaches who think D is what really wins games…maybe in the days of Woody Hayes and Bear Bryant but not in the new century NFL where the rules have been pushed as far as possible to benefit the offense.
Whatever…I’m just glad the Glazers are no longer sending all their money to Man U. I’m glad we no longer have a freaking defensive “guru” as HC.
It’s REALLY a new day in Tampa Bay. We have a franchise QB who shows signs of being elite. We have an offensive guru as HC. Let’s go score some points and stop the boring 13-10 games!!!
I no longer care about our past. I’m just incredibly excited by our future!
February 20th, 2016 at 11:48 am
I agree with StpeteBucs fan!!! If lovie was the coach we know 100% that he would finish last in the division again!!! But I am not here to talk about the past!!
I fell the optimism everywhere now!!! It is a new direction, There are No more holdouts, leftover and hasbeens from the past!!!
Go Bucs!!!!
February 20th, 2016 at 12:05 pm
In retrospect, nothing. At least lovie had a reason for being piss poor his first season. Shiano came in a had instant success with the players we had, and then destroyed the team in a single season. When schiano came, the bucs roster was in decent shape. We had won 10 games in a season, and had a QB that wasnt great, but a top 15 guy for sure. He left us with 1 great LB and a mess of the rest of the roster. Good luck in Ohio, but schiano did nothing to set up this team for future success.
February 20th, 2016 at 12:15 pm
Schiano and Dom brought us Dougie and LVD.
February 20th, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Brought us Vjax too. Revis as well, til Lovie got rid of him. Tim Wright…til Lovie got rid of him. Banks until Lovie benched him.
Brought us Lovie too. Oh wait.
February 20th, 2016 at 12:44 pm
@ ST petebucfan
Agreed,how many coaches have lost games when offense was clicking you have a big lead and they get conservative and go into a defensive shell and only lose.
also with this talented coaching staff and front officeanother good draft
we will poised for success.go bucs.
February 20th, 2016 at 1:13 pm
every day was a tug of war with Schiano at One Buccs Palace.
February 20th, 2016 at 1:42 pm
@bonsai obviously the last four years have very frustrating for all of us.
Best thing to do is move past it and never speak of it again!
February 20th, 2016 at 1:50 pm
Seattle came back on Carolina strong also.
February 21st, 2016 at 12:38 am
BighogHaynes-
Spot on, Brother, about what an embarrassment Schiano was to this team!
Everytime they were forced to rush the”victory Kneel down”, you could see how
Humiliated the players were by ludicrious high school schemes.
Watch the last few games. Opposing Players were standing on their sideline, watching, and mocking!! Schiano’s play callng
NFL head coach ,- to defensive coach in college? Pretty degrading drop in my eyes
Lou,
Why ya gotta bring up Leeman Bennett? Now I’m gonna be tasting vomit all day
February 21st, 2016 at 8:18 am
You mean that same victory formation rush that the Patriots and Seahawks have both been witnessed doing yet mysteriously never got called out for by media outlets? I still get a chuckle that there are still some posters who cling to blaming Schiano for ruining Freeman. Hell I’d say when Belichick and Carrol use your idea that pretty much makes you an innovator of the game. 🙂
February 21st, 2016 at 8:26 am
…and there are still people actually posting Schiano ruined Freeman, really!?!? Probably the same folks who still think Boomer Esiason was trying to torpedo Freeman when he was one of the first national analysts to shine the light on some disturbing behavior out of Josh. For the umpteenth time…Josh ruined Josh, all Schiano did was see the warning signs and refuse to coddle him the way Rah did. Thank you Coach Schiano…best of luck to a good dude and coach…Toes On The Line!!
February 21st, 2016 at 10:51 pm
To all Schiano lovers, he was a complete joke of a head coach, you can’t walk into an NFL locker room and pull the BS Schiano did, everyone knows you don’t know what you think you know, and again I say THE BACK-STABBER was the GM for both years LOVIE was here, gets all the credit for every player that came in and played well and LOVIE takes all the crap, you guys are so funny!!!
February 22nd, 2016 at 12:38 pm
Funny, A lot of players had no problem and even liked Coach Schiano
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2013/12/donald-penn-endorses-schiano-100-percent/
No player stood up for lovie like that, The only ones only said they were disappointed to have to start over again!! Once the season starts they will see the extreme difference from running lovie antiquated system to Coach Mike Smith’s!!!
Go Bucs!!!