Rick Stroud Changes Tune On Doug Martin
February 15th, 2016
Last Thursday night, TampaBay.com Bucs beat writer Rick Stroud wrote, “But here are some things that might surprise or even shock you: Doug Martin will make it to free agency and test the market.”
Stroud now has a different tune. It’s all sung right here in a quality WDAE-AM 620 audio cut from the Rick & Tom show this morning.
“I think at the end of the day they both get a deal done,” Stroud said.
Stroud talks about Martin sending him messages after his story published. Martin, per Stroud, wanted to clear up the perception generated by Stroud writing, “Martin, 27, is hoping to hit the jackpot.”
Click the audio links above for the full listen.
Joe will say this. The moment Joe read Stroud’s initial offering, Joe strongly advised Bucs fans, “Don’t inhale.”
February 15th, 2016 at 9:59 am
Let’s not insult people, and reporters very rarely write headlines. That’s left for editors. –Joe
February 15th, 2016 at 10:01 am
LMFAO. Doug sent him a text and told him to SHUT THE FU** UP!
February 15th, 2016 at 10:07 am
@JOE
I saw what you did. LOL!
February 15th, 2016 at 10:08 am
Martin deserves to hit the jackpot. He’ll be busted up and mostly forgotten in a few short years.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:15 am
Maybe one day the bucs will find a franchise RB
…..they already got the QB part right
I’m still bitter all these years later they let Warrick Dunn escape to the Falcons…..now that one hurt!!!!!
February 15th, 2016 at 10:23 am
People keep saying he won’t get the “Demarco” deal. I think he will, and as long as all the guaranteed money is paid the first two years, won’t hurt us cap-wise. Not even a top-10 tough decision for Licht this offseason.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:26 am
Rick wrote that article to kick-off the silly season. The only thing of value in there was Jason’s comment about building through the draft.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:33 am
I know licht is smart enough to re-sign martin. It’s just a matter of how much doug is willing to take to play. Both sides are trying tonget the best deal possible. They are both just playing a little hard ball, and no reason not too, we have plenty of time to negotiate. Might as well use it and come up with a good deal that both sides are upset about.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:36 am
Count me as one of those dirty ‘let him walk’ types. No running back not named Tomlinson or Peterson is worth over 10 mil. Their skills are so interchangeable. Look at Eddie Lazy. Guy was a top 5 back heading into last year. Now? Splat. Don’t pay for a position you can easily replace in the 4th or 5th round of every draft. Martin isn’t overly big, overly fast, overly strong, overly shifty, doesnt catch like Sims and doesn’t block like James…just wondering what is worth 10+ mil?
Offer 7-8 and if he turns it down..pick up Lamar Miller for 5.5 and be done.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:45 am
^^^^
It was either Simeon or Dunn that had to go IIRC…I think the Bucs picked the best player ( for them ) to re-sign at the time. No ring for Dunn…just a lot of full body hugs from Arthur Blank check…
February 15th, 2016 at 10:50 am
Most broken tackles, most yards after contact. Sounds like overly strong to me @ Kalind
Def overly shift. made a ton of players miss. sorry but when you have a leading rusher for the entire league you dont replace that in the 3rd or 4th round.
February 15th, 2016 at 10:57 am
@Kalind
This argument that Martin is worth keeping at $5M but not at $10-12M/year is nonsensical. They will structure the deal where our financial obligations are only 2 years (3 years at the most). We have no current players due a big contract in the next 2-3 years and $50M in cap space that could balloon to $70-80M based on cuts. We literally have money to burn. Ntm Martin would have had an AP-like season last year if we didn’t have to give up on the run so early and often. Let him go and we’re a Sims injury away from the best running combo in the league to the worst.
February 15th, 2016 at 11:18 am
Beat writers only know as much as agents, front office staff, players or coaches tell them.
No one in the local media had a whiff that loser Lovie was gonna go back to his basement.
February 15th, 2016 at 11:20 am
The Bucs brass realize that Doug is invaluable to this team’s success, Licht and Koetter both know, that if the Bucs any kind of defense and didn’t fall behind early in how may games, DM would’ve like won the rushing title by 200 yards, if you believe Simms as the guy, as full time back that would take away from what he brings on third down, good player, but sims is not Matt Forte or Arian Foster
February 15th, 2016 at 11:28 am
Maybe after Martin hits the jackpot he can purchase some brake-away speed.
February 15th, 2016 at 11:49 am
@ Anthem
It hurt because he was such a fan favorite. It worked out alright though. Pittman was no slouch. We lost a franchise rb in favor of a Super Bowl rb. I’ll take it every time.
February 15th, 2016 at 11:56 am
Huge mistake if he ends up elsewhere….creating another hole on the team…
February 15th, 2016 at 1:27 pm
This is exactly what I wrote last week when stroud wrote that article.
Stroud likes to stir up the pot and create drama. It’s starting to become his entire shtick.
February 15th, 2016 at 2:03 pm
Stroud always makes things up.
Bucco brice Says
“Huge mistake if he ends up elsewhere….creating another hole on the team…”
Not going to happen. Worse case, they franchise him.
February 15th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
They just announced cap is going up “at least” $12 million.. Found money=the amount Dougie is asking for.. I’m no rocket surgeon but..
February 15th, 2016 at 3:16 pm
I also remember when Stroud claimed Talib was gonna get cut, then it never happened. Let’s stop acting like these beat writers know more than the team allows them to
February 15th, 2016 at 4:26 pm
We are deep at RB, and a back who is 27 and has only been healthy for 50% of his career should be looked at deeply and skeptically.
February 15th, 2016 at 4:44 pm
I guess I can’t blame the Greed Hamster. I would probably be looking for a jackpot too in his position. However, I’m going to just say it. #22 isn’t worth north of 7 mill per year. Love the guy and he was beast last year but 2 productive years out of 4 for a RB that’s 27 doesn’t deserve that much money.
February 15th, 2016 at 5:19 pm
My guess is we will give him a 4 – 5 year deal, with the most most money (and all of the gauranteed) paid out in the first 2, maybe 3 years. Prob 6 – 7 million per year for those first few. Something like: 4 years, 22m total, 12 – 14m guaranteed.
We get 2+ productive years (hopefully even more) and can release him after that if needed.
February 15th, 2016 at 5:53 pm
@cmurda
I think people, let alone Bucs fans, are showing their ignorance when they talk about the 2013 and 2014 seasons and Martin’s supposed down years. I’ve watched every carry of Martin since his rookie year and never doubted his ability. People seem to just ignore the fact that last year, the Buccaneers had Marcus Arroyo calling plays and Josh McCown at Quarterback. While Martin wasn’t at the top of his game, there is no running back that will excel under those circumstances. No matter how talented a player is, that player still needs a coach that will put him in position to succeed. Dirk Koetter recognized this, and that is why he is the new head coach.
The NFL is a cutthroat league and way that Martin bounced back this year, after he had basically been written off, tells me everything that I need to know about him. That is exactly the kind of player that we need to keep and the kind of attitude that we need from the rest of the team. I look forward to seeing Martin continue to shatter the records and remain a career Buc.