Pacman?
February 22nd, 2016
Excellent football player. Rehabilitated citizen.
Fans of good defense know the Bengals have one, and their best cornerback is Adam Jones, the artist formerly known as supreme trouble maker Pacman Jones.
During his life in the previous decade, Jones was a menace to the NFL and society, involved in too many shootings, stripper situations and alleged woman beating and more.
This decade, the former No. 6 overall pick (2005) has evolved into a strong leader, and a top tier cornerback and return man. He even was named to his first Pro Bowl last month.
Jones has missed only two games in the past four years. He turns 33 this season, but still retains his elite athleticism. It’s evident on the field.
When the free agency dinner bell rings in 16 short days, Jones plans to test the market, but Bengals fans want him back.
Joe would applaud the Buccaneers gambling on Jones, who won’t cost a fortune. And if Jones did come to Tampa, it would be a clear sign that highly-respected new Bucs defensive line coach Jay Hayes, who spent the last several seasons in Cincinnati, vouched for Jones. That would good enough for Joe.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:07 am
common on joe you know all the PC Character Police and Members of the Tampa2 Mafia would blow a gasket if the bucs even considered Pacman. Hell they want to run every guy that spills his milk on the lunch room floor out of town…Good forbid they give a guy a second chance or possibly think a person can redeem themselves.
Pacman has played well and has stayed out of trouble. I cant’ wait for the day the Buccaneers embrace talented football players and setup systems so they can thrive and have a chance of turning character concerns into victories… Instead of running every talented player out of town let’s learn how to manage people in today’s society. Society is NOT perfect nor are the buccaneer players. Manage character concerns do not let talented players go over them. Look all the so called bad character guys bucs have let go and all the playoff games and other successes they have had elsewhere. enough said on that.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:14 am
Sounds kind of like Aqib Talib. He never amounted to anything, though. Oh wait…
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:18 am
Aqib Talib, Michael Bennett. LaGarrette Blount, Darrelle Revis, etc.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:21 am
Dude, He’s 33.
Why even bother?
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:22 am
Had I not seen his behavior against Pittsburgh in the playoffs, I’d be all for Jones. However, that happened and I’m less than enthusiastic as a result. I know it was just one small play, but it showed a terrible lack of discipline and selfishness. Then he compounded it by saying that Bryant was faking the injury.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:22 am
Hey, this is his kind of town!
If he can play and stay out of trouble, why not.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:25 am
We don’t need Mother Theresa, but no criminals either please.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:26 am
Am I alone in thinking our secondary will be fine next season by using the ‘ole “Addition by subtraction” model? Re-sign Moore who wants to come back anyways and eliminate the dynamic duo of Toast & Loaf… Secondary fixed… Draft a S in second round.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:30 am
The Bucs are void of productive veterans with savvy and experience. This would be a nice depth upgrade for the secondary and STs. When he’s your 3rd or 4th best CB you have a solid secondary.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:40 am
We have a team full of nice Guys. i Guess finishing last with a team of nice guys it’s ok.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:43 am
@mdknob,
Nope, not alone.
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:51 am
Hawaiian. ..I’m with you. Twitter and Facebook beef was very public. He showed very little class. At 33 this is not a risk I’m willing to take.
What’s happen’ padnah?
February 22nd, 2016 at 10:57 am
A thousand no’s to Punkman Jones.
Draft one.
February 22nd, 2016 at 11:02 am
I could run like the wind at 33, smaller black guys could outrun me though.
February 22nd, 2016 at 11:05 am
I am very surprised that Joe even posted this story!! We all heard JW3 fighting aginst the locker room at the end of the year press conference!! We need more winning, smart, Football players!!! The Locker room is not strong enough yet to take big chances on players!!!
February 22nd, 2016 at 11:14 am
I would be willing to bring him on board for a short term deal… Give him a three year deal with all the garunteed money in year one and two… Yes he is 33 but he is still producing on the field at a high level and the guy has always been a physical specimen… He did have a melt down against Pittsburgh but I still think he is worth looking at… He would probably be our best CB on day one…
February 22nd, 2016 at 11:25 am
Lotsa scrip clubs here in the 813
Lol, sorry Joe, couldn’t resist.
Seriously though: Apparently he’s a changed man, so yeah, why not?
February 22nd, 2016 at 11:31 am
Hawaiian Buc hit the nail right on the head. Joe, you’re off your rocker on this one. the meltdown costing the Bengals the playoff game was bad enough. but then to publibly accuse Antonio Brown of faking the injury, and make social media videos and go on and on about it, that showed that he hasn’t changed and deep down he will always be a piece of $hit.
as far as i’m concerned, he never should have been allowed back in the league after that strip club insanity. he was directly responsible for a man getting shot and paralyzed. the only time i wanna hear about Pacman is if he commits suicide in a prison cell ala Lawrence Phillips.
February 22nd, 2016 at 12:04 pm
The answer is no. Thanks but no thanks Joe. The guy is 33. Rehabilitated? Umm, no. Next.
February 22nd, 2016 at 12:43 pm
Not after that debacle in the playoffs. We have been doing that type of crap around here pretty well on our own. No need to bring in a ringer.
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:28 pm
No thanks to a 33 year old CB who showed signs of immaturity again in the playoffs.
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:30 pm
Pacman has played well and has stayed out of trouble.
Dang Tmax…don’t you watch the playoffs. This “richard” cost the Bengals a playoff game!!! Talib almost cost the Broncos…he’s lucky that Denver was good enough to overcome his cement head.
It’s not simply the fact that these guys are thugs off the field…it’s not about getting only “choir boys”…it’s about ridding the team of freaking CEMENT HEADS.
Stupid is as stupid does and even Forrest looks smart compared to Talib and PacMan. No..NO..a 1000X No. I hate STUPID players.
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Good argument from Tmax but I think cmurda got it right. No thank you.
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Good god…what is it with wanting all these senior discount wannabees brought in, Joe?
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Another J Says
“Dude, He’s 33.
Why even bother?”
Exactly.
Never mind his criminal activities and the way he behaved in the playoffs, which I really don’t care for. His age should instantly remove him from being an option.
Why is it that Tampa fans always want a quick fix? Take a look around, people…these quick fixes you keep going on about are the reason this team is a bottom feeding team.
Sign young. Sign wisely. Draft. Build a team that lasts and contends.
February 22nd, 2016 at 1:57 pm
After the Pittsburgh game (which he lost the game for them with his selfish actions), he made a expletive-filled video to put on Instagram where he blamed the refs for the game. Really? You push a coach at the end of the game to put the other team in field goal range, especially in the playoffs. Then to top it all off, he blames everyone but himself. Then, you hear all sorts of talk coming out of Cincy that he is extremely undisciplined on and off the field. Is he really that good to take the risk? And if you think he’s going to take a contract without a lot of guaranteed money to come to Tampa, you’ve lost your mind. It just doesn’t seem worth the risk to me.
February 22nd, 2016 at 2:24 pm
This is another Johnny Football-like call by joe 😉
February 22nd, 2016 at 2:28 pm
StPeteBucsFan
I said he played well and stayed out of trouble never did I say he was perfect nor did I say go get him….
Mike Evans Cost the bucs games for the same type of behavior and with dropped passes are you ready to give up on him….
February 22nd, 2016 at 3:06 pm
It’s “scrip club” not strip club!!
I’m sure he’ll do just fine in the strip club capitol!!!
February 22nd, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Its about time someone else rang the dinner bell for Adam Jones. Here is the deal. There is one other top caliber CB available in FA. Sean Smith, Chiefs. Smith is going to demand a top $ salary. $10 to $12 million a year, 4 years. Jones actually covered better than Sean Smith last year. He allowed a passer rating of 60.0 when targeted by opposing quarterbacks. So what if he is 33. Sign him for 2 years until we get a replacement in the draft. For him to still be this effective at 32 years of age just is very impressive and shows just how talented Jones really is. Of the other FA players like Prince Amukamara, Giants, Trumaine Johnson, Rams, Janoris Jenkins, Rams and Josh Norman, Panthers, are all going to re-sign with their original teams. Predicted Value: 2 years, $10-$12 million. Draft CB Mackensie Alexander in the first round and our secondary is legit. Can you image how much talking those two will be doing with opponents? Its about time!
February 22nd, 2016 at 3:40 pm
No thanks! Especially since he is already 33. I would much rather see the Bucs re-sign Sterling Moore to a 2-3 year contract for 1/2 the price. I think Verner, Banks and Moore is a reasonably solid starting unit if we could ever get a pass rush. Keep these 3 CBs and draft a couple CBs over the next 2 years.
Lovie’s secondary coaches were a joke. The guys we already have will be fine with good coaching and some better talent up front.
February 22nd, 2016 at 4:20 pm
I prefer Ms. Pacman
February 22nd, 2016 at 4:24 pm
“Mike Evans Cost the bucs games for the same type of behavior and with dropped passes are you ready to give up on him….”
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Two things: First of all, I disagree Evans cost us games with his behavior. He had a meltdown in week 17, but that game had been over for quite a while. He just got to be the first to take a shower. As for the drops, while he did have some bad drops, he also had 1200 yards receiving. It could be argued he won some games for us too. Second (and most importantly), Evans is like ten years younger than Jones, and we drafted him. That’s a huge difference that shouldn’t be overlooked. If Evans continued to make immature decisions on and off the field 10 years down the road, I would say the exact same thing about him. Evans has a much higher ceiling. Pacman reached his ceiling a while ago.
February 22nd, 2016 at 4:51 pm
Hawaiian Buc
I was not very clear in my post… I am not advocating nor suggesting the bucs should get pacman. The point I am trying to make is other successful teams have systems and staff in place to deal with character flaws where has the bucs have a recent history of throwing away talent left and right. Grown mean should not need babysitters or 24×7 mentors but lets be realistic society is not perfect and neither will the bucs roster. there are a few on this site that would be happy if bucs went 0- 16 with a team full of choirboys that tried hard and were on the verge. It gets real old watching talented players winning playoff games and superbowls that used to wear bucs uniforms.
as for evans i do believe he costs bucs games last year with his antics and whining to refs. I firmly believe a first down catch here or there or the benefit of the doubt on a call cost the bucs a game or two. i don’t strickly blame evans that being said he made critical mistakes both mental and physical in critical times last year. love evans just would like to see him take the next step. you are correct he did not cost last game and I was unclear.
February 22nd, 2016 at 5:45 pm
No Joe. The Over The Hill Gang we do not need. If we are going to get some players at least get some for a few years. Why is it people are now thinking because players like Bret and Manning played past their time the rest will last forever? 27 or 28 yes but further up you start pushing it.
February 22nd, 2016 at 6:50 pm
the key to free agency is not acting like a kid in a candy store.Avoid inheriting
another teams trash and gain another teams loss. (good value player but salary cap hit.
February 22nd, 2016 at 7:03 pm
@buccaneer Bonzai
This is another Johnny Football like call by Joe
thinking that Joe is throwing the Spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks.
But I don’t know Joe so I could be wrong.
February 22nd, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Pacman got away with the head beat he gave to Amari Cooper. Remember he pulled off Amari’s helmet then slammed Amari’s head on it over and over. Freak old washed up corner back. We do not need that on the Bucs.
February 22nd, 2016 at 7:15 pm
i think he is a good dynamic player. But i’ll pass.
February 22nd, 2016 at 7:30 pm
there is also a possibilty the mental mistakes on bengals defense with burflict
and Jones caused hayes to blow a gasket and get the hell out of town.
February 22nd, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Rather have Super Mario over Pacman.
February 22nd, 2016 at 8:07 pm
puff puff pass!
February 22nd, 2016 at 8:16 pm
🙂
February 22nd, 2016 at 8:33 pm
I didn’t read the article or Any comments. I would rather have bamboo shoots grown under my fingernails than sign him. I know it is off season and all but Damn Joe.
February 23rd, 2016 at 5:18 am
Bob in Valrico Says: “Avoid inheriting another teams trash and gain another teams loss. (good value player but salary cap hit).”
The Bengals actually want him back but are just not going to offer him what he believes some other teams will. Jones made the Pro Bowl last year and is considered the 10th best cover corner in the league. Of course he will be a salary cap hit? So what?
As I read the comments on this site it makes me believe that Buccaneer fans are soft and complacent in mediocracy. There are almost no help in FA in the CB group as far as top end talent. The only quality players who will hit the market will be Sean Smith, Adam Jones and maybe one other. The comments that people would rather re-sign Sterling Moore and go with Johnthan Banks and Alterraun Verner is insane and means more of the same. Also the Bucs have made it clear they are not going to re-sign Moore. Adam Jones is a solid starting CB who can play light years better than any CB we currently have. I want to win and win now, heck bring Greg Hardy here if we have to, I am sick f losing.
February 23rd, 2016 at 12:10 pm
@godzilla 13
I’ve said the same thing…sign whoever is eligibility to play for the shield!
February 23rd, 2016 at 3:11 pm
BS on a stick. We need this old worn out troublemaker like a hole in the head. Draft a few better/younger players. The $$ is there. Go Bucs!