Tough Times For Team Glazer
January 3rd, 2016
Team Glazer opened its checkbook for big-name players and a big-name head coach. And right now, all they have to show for it is a hot mess of a ball club and grumbling fans, despite the fantastic glow of a franchise quarterback with a legitimate offense around him.
That may sound harsh, but that’s the cold reality when your team gets humiliated during the final four weeks of a season, as the Bucs were.
It’s not Team Glazer’s fault. It’s really not. What else are these guys supposed to do?
They hired a defensive-focused head coach that couldn’t craft an effective defense in two years — and is committed to his system that isn’t working. That’s quite a depressing situation for Team Glazer.
Is Team Glazer really confident Lovie Smith can coach his way out of this defensive mess? There is no recent evidence that Lovie can pull it off. There’s plenty of evidence he can’t.
No. Team Glazer won’t drop the axe on Lovie tomorrow. And Joe’s stated many times that Lovie deserves massive kudos for his drafting and thorough handling of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. Loads of head coaches would have screwed that up.
But that doesn’t mean Team Glazer is in a happy place. These are brutal times for ownership, as they preside over a fifth consecutive last-place finish.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:47 pm
@Joe
If the Glazers do make the mistake of keeping lovie for 1 more year, They will have to beg the league office so they will never have a primetime game again!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Leslie Frasier will be the Goat
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:49 pm
@Realist.
There is no chance they have a single game on primetime next year. I wouldn’t be surprised if the league figures out a way to keep them off of TNF too.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Plllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssse fire Lovie in the morning.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:50 pm
@joe
Don’t worry about another humiliating loss on Primetime tv with lovie. I have infiltrated sheep headquarters were they are trying to form a response to another lovie debacle!!!!! The just of it goes “ This was a genius plan by lovie, He tanked the game so other teams will not interview Keotter for Head coach”!!!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Bucs under the Glazers boys have finished better than last only once. Sorry Joe, they can’t pick anything right it seems.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Either Lovie must dump 80% of defensive players currently on this team or admit his system no longer works in the NFL.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:51 pm
Lovie will be forced to fire his whole defensive staff including his useless offspring…
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:52 pm
I personally only expect the Glazers to try to improve this team. It is clear by now that Lovie just isnt a good HC despite his past success in Chicago. He needs to go. Show us you care about winning and try to get someone better. Thats all as a fan I can ask of you. Dont subject us torture Buc fans to another season of this garbage! Do the right thing Glazers. Fire Lovie!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:55 pm
Realist…well he certainly proved to me that they only tanked the last game of the season last year.
Can someone put together a list of all the things he’s done wrong on game day and free agency? Quite a list it would be?
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:55 pm
Enough with the “drafting handling Winston crap” He was handed the first pick in the draft and of course the dark skinned coach who coaches in Florida would choose the dark skinned kid who plays in Florida what else would he have done? Cmon man.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:56 pm
Breaking news … Jason licht , Brian Glazier , and lovie are traveling on a separate plain home tonight. Maybe thats why J Licht was shown on the sidelines at the end of the game .
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Lovie will get another year…..like it or not. I’m not happy with Lovie’s style or his record….but I will root for him to turn it around……I just can’t root for the Bucs to lose….sorry guys.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Get the list together and send it to OneBuc via overnight.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 pm
@buc1987
it would break the internet!!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 pm
The dude finished with double digit losses, what credit does he deserve in regards to Winston? His job success and/or failure is about wins and losses.
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 pm
Joe- you used the phrase “defensive-focused” instead of your usual “defensive guru” to describe the thrilling talents of incompetent Lovie Smith. Did you mean to say “guru”? I just want to squeeze this turd for all it’s yield!
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 pm
Lovie needs one more year…..and if it’s the same results….then fire him at the end of this year
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Come one at least spell plane correctly
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Any way to get rid of the Glazers and let the fans FINALLY own this team?? We’ve been cursed ever since the NFL ownership screwed the fans over back in 1975. Fans raised the $40M to buy the franchise. The other owners figured it was communism like the the Green Bay Packers ownership. So, they brought up a bozo named Hugh Culverhouse from So. Florida. They cut the franchise price in half: $20M and gave it to Culverhouse. The rest is history. Joe, check it out–no state secret here.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:00 pm
This just in, It takes lovie 2 years to get the same amount of wins as Dan Quinn in 1!!!!!
###Fire lovie
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:00 pm
I am sure the Glazers will point to the increased wins vs 2014 as a reason for optimism but the product on the field is garbage. I really expected the defense to carry the load this year but they have been terrible all year long. Combined with the never ending penalties, lack of mental awareness and toughness Lovie should be shown the door tomorrow.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:00 pm
TBBF…make no mistake, most of us do still root for the players on the field, but it’s fruitless really. He won’t turn himself around. Turn into what? This team might not win 6 games next season and that’s depressing to think about 8 months away from next season. We just have to sit through 16 more games with this fool.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:01 pm
87- so you finally admitting that Do-no-wrong Lovie Smith of 2014 did not actually tank the whole season, just the last game?
First for me to hear you say that!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Lovie will get another year…..like it or not. I’m not happy with Lovie’s style or his record….but I will root for him to turn it around……I just can’t root for the Bucs to lose….sorry guys.
You don’t have to root. Lovie will lose more than enough on his own without your rooting.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Schiano got fired after winning 11 games in 2 years. Lovie’s only won 8 in 2 years with all his VAST experience.
How can one justify firing Schiano and not Lovie?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Joe Please stop with the Lovie is great for landing Winston. Let’s remember why we were even given the opportunity. Hell he had a 50/50 chance of picking the right guy! Glazers need to do something big for the fans and dump Lovie. This team has demonstrated once again that they need coaching. It’s impossible that these professionals can not tackle, stop a slant or cover anyone. Poor coaching. Period
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Schianos record 11 – 21
Lovies record. 8 – 24
What else is there to say
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:04 pm
Joe, the hot mess is the Glazers’ fault. The evidence they have no idea what they are doing is overwhelming. Yet, they haven’t replaced themselves with a legitimate football operations guy.
I’m sorry, but the four game slide to end this season would be it for me. The offense has improved but the defense, Lovie’s defense, is an unmitigated disaster. Sure, losing Kwon hurt, but his replacement, Bruce Carter, was Lovie’s overpriced handpicked guy to start! How many FA whiffs have there been in two years?
If the Glazers have confidence Lovie is taking this team to the playoffs next year then they are even more clueless then I suspect. If they don’t then it’s time to make a change. As a fan I’d sure like to hear from them.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:04 pm
The Glazer boys need to hire an experienced guy as president of football ops and let him fix this dumpster fire, much like Jeff Vinik did with Steve Yzerman. Simple as that. Love has to go.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:06 pm
Schiano got fired for less…
Where are the “Fire Lovie” billboards?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:07 pm
As much as I would hate to restart the rebuilding process again, I think it’s time to turn the page on Lovie and promote Koetter to HC. The December collapse showed that the mideseason wins against the Cowboys and Eagles were flukes, probably due to their injuries at QB. The Bucs won 6 games against an extremely weak schedule, including the two flukes. I’m not sure there’s been any progress and I don’t have much confidence in Lovie anymore.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Buc1987 very valid point….. The only difference is the players complained about Schiano
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Lovie Is Dog Poo Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Lovie will get another year…..like it or not. I’m not happy with Lovie’s style or his record….but I will root for him to turn it around……I just can’t root for the Bucs to lose….sorry guys.
You don’t have to root. Lovie will lose more than enough on his own without your rooting.
So….you don’t root for the Bucs to win?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:10 pm
Fire Lovie.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:10 pm
How are the owners of a company not responsible for the quality and stewardship of their hires? In any other business it would be absurd to absolve the owners of any culpability for the performance of their business.
You make your bed…now you have to sleep in it.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:11 pm
Dallas…I never said “the whole” season. I said after it was clear they were completely out of any hunt for anything. They sucked so bad last year it had to be a tank job, but alas it wasn’t and WOW for that. He truly did suck that bad last season.
“We were 4-12 last season” – Lovie Smith arrogantly said numerous times when he was hired in 2014 only to go out and win only 2 games and NO home wins at all.
“We don’t expect our fans to be patient” – Jason Licht told us back in 2014.
Oh really Jason? Well I need him to define the word patient. Can you help us out Joe? Ask Licht that question on what he said in 2014. Can anyone in the media ask that question?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:11 pm
fire lovie….so at best the bucs go 7-9 last year and its lovie losing again bring in a new coach and go 7-9 or 8-8 you will fire up the community especially if they can beat the panthers at least once and never lose to a cfl qb again as lovie does on th e reguar
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:12 pm
The Glazers have brought a lot of this mess on themselves by making three straight very bad head coaching choices.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:12 pm
Buc1987 very valid point….. The only difference is the players complained about Schiano
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Well of course they did. He actually made them work and held them accountable.
Nobody is going to complain about Lovie’s Ice cream Sundays and soft practice schedules.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:13 pm
Consider the wins that the Bucs garnered against teams this year. Not an impressive list of wins. Furthermore, 2 seasons under Lovie and not a single win against a team with a winning record.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:13 pm
@1987
Why wait until in the morning?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:13 pm
@87, I think that’s a HUGE reason why most fans were so pissed.
Many of us knew it was going to be rebuilding, but they tried to play it off last year like that wasn’t the reality. They said not to be patient and we’re going to win this year. And we were a 4-12 team the year before, blah, blah, blah.
Instead of lying through their teeth, they should have said this franchise is a mess and we need at least 2 – 3 years to rebuild it. It would have tempered expectations and been much more realistic.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:14 pm
How do you justify it Joe? Ya know seeing how you were one of the media that wanted Schiano gone. Oh yah that silly Jameis Winston transition to the NFL excuse thingy. Don’t bother answering if it’s that excuse…
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:14 pm
It would be hilarious if Loser Lovie is fired when all the media claim he’s safe
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:14 pm
Mutiny is afoot!
Buccaneer Football needs some changes.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Here’s the kicker: Schiano won 3 more games with Freeman and Glennon at qb.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:15 pm
He’ll get another year, which he should. While some coaches have success sooner, 3 years is a reasonable sample size to know what you’ve got. I don’t think he’ll do Anthony next year to change anyone’s opinions. Jameis will improve. The offense will look better. I don’t see how the defense will do anything differently than they’ve done the past few years. Having a loser mentality is part of who the players are. Kwon might help to make things more palatable. Hopefully a good defensive draft will provide some more young bright spots.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:15 pm
When you lose your last 4 games, 3 to very bad teams, you are getting worse instead of getting better.
Surely the Glazers have to see that
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:16 pm
Bring back Schiano before you bring back Lovie.
Both are still on the books, and one would win hella lot more often.
Schiano deserved a 3rd year. Freeman went awol, Nicks was down to MRSA…
Lovie has had major FA whiffs, but not a lot of bad things to hinder his chances of winning that were not out of his control.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:17 pm
@ The Glazers
These are not tough times!!! It is time to be Tough!!!! Stand up and pull this Franchise out of the garbage!!!! Do not do what is easy and keep the status quo and watch your business flounder!!!!
Now is time to lead!!! If you do what is hard and make the right decision, years from fans will talk about how the owners took over the situation when it looked so bleak, And carried this Franchise back to greatness!!!!
You have to take that chance Mr Glazers!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:19 pm
MRSA, head case Freeman, locker scandals etc and Schiano won more games than Lovie Smith has in 2 years. Yet Joe thinks it’s wise to bring Lovie back another year. Sad.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:21 pm
I say fire Lovie and hire Koetter as our new head coach. Bring in a real defensive coach to run the defense. Its obvious that these defensive minded head coaches are just not working out for the bucs.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:22 pm
Leslie Frasier will be the Goat
How is he the Goat? I remember Coach Smith taking over the DC duties, things haven’t improved much since that day.
Who is the coach that has our DB’s 10 yard off on every play?
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:23 pm
How much money do they eat if they fire him? 15 million? He’s already wasted well over that in crappy FA picks ups. They would save money by firing him.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:24 pm
@buc1987
10 million, lovie’s 5th year is an option year. so the Glazers have 2 years left for lovie!!!!
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:25 pm
So true 1987.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:26 pm
So we go 8-8 the next 3 years, no playoffs. I don’t see things dramatically improving under Lovie.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:27 pm
Revis didn’t fit in his system….yes but look who have now. So much better than Revis out there. I hope the media are wrong on this one or we have sit through this crap again next season, if not worse.
Wake up sheep, this team MIGHT not win 4 games next season with the schedult they have in front of them. If the next coach only wins 4 games as well, then so be it, but this has gotta go.
@unbelievable…I think most Bucs fans are pissed, because they saw the glory years defense and they have to watch this crap every Sunday. Most Bucs fans love defense and…well.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:31 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:07 pm
Lovie Is Dog Poo Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 3rd, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Lovie will get another year…..like it or not. I’m not happy with Lovie’s style or his record….but I will root for him to turn it around……I just can’t root for the Bucs to lose….sorry guys.
You don’t have to root. Lovie will lose more than enough on his own without your rooting.
So….you don’t root for the Bucs to win?
Of course I root for them to win. But with Lovie there’s a 75% chance they’re going to lose anyways. So I can root as hard as I’d like, Lovie means 75% chance of losing.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:39 pm
Raheem won 13 games in 09 and 10 with a LOT less to work with than Lovie does. Now he’ll need to win at least 9 games next season to match Raheem’s record.
January 3rd, 2016 at 8:41 pm
I’m always right damn it. I got Free Wee wrong, but I got this team and this coach pegged. Sure I can hope he turns it around next season, but I’m pretty sure I had that same hope coming into this season.
Oh well having been a long time fan, I’ve weathered tougher seasons than this one. I’ll just wait it out until he’s fired in 2016.
Couch Fan and I have agreed a lot lately from Jameis to Lovie. We both believe it’s bad to keep firing coaches every 2 years. So how come we both want Lovie gone?
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:15 pm
Great its going to be september of 2017 before we get to see someone other than lovie. This sucks.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:16 pm
Because most of us have that same feeling nawing at us…the feeling that this is who Lovie Smith is as a coach now, and that this is all we can realisticaly expect from him going forward as a HC with the Bucs. He is not a new being an NFL HC, so unlike a first time college to NFL HC or a first time NFL coordinator to NFL HC Lovie has probably as good as he’ll ever be. It’s a scenario similar to having more patience with a rookie QB who’s making mistakes but learning and improving vs watching an experienced vet journeyman QB make the same mistakes…you know he’s hit his ceiling and trending down.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:30 pm
Hey Glazers, your head coach is 8-24, wasted millions of your dollars and has shrunk your fan base.
Ask yourselves -“What would Dad do?”
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:43 pm
Dad would immediately do what ultimately needed to be done. He’d get prepared to hire Koetter as HC.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:44 pm
Fire Lovie
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:50 pm
They hired Lovie to pander to the old school Bucs fans- who revered the Tampa 2 and a defensively dominant team under Kiffen with multiple HOF’ers on the field. Its the Fox News crowd- that still wants him in town. Any 21st century fan understands Lovie is in over his head. This team’s success is in SPITE of him. Jameis is a star and we finally have a competent offensive gameplanner and playcaller. Lovie sucks.
January 4th, 2016 at 12:59 am
Saban/Kiffin 2016
January 4th, 2016 at 2:47 pm
THE GLAZERS THINK THAT LOVIE WAS THAT GOLDEN TURD THAT COULD NEVER BE FLASH, WELL GUESS WHAT , THE TIDIE BOWL MAN JUST FLUSH HIM BECAUSE HE STUNK ……. HE WILL BE FIRED !!!!!!!
January 4th, 2016 at 3:11 pm
IF LOVIE HAS A THREE YEAR PLAN THEN THE FIRST YEAR HE SHOULD HAVE WON AT BEST 4 OR 5 GAMES , SECOND YEAR, HE SHOULD HAVE WENT 8 AND 8,, NO WHERE CLOSE,, GIVE ONE TO DALLAS 5 AND 11, THIRD YEAR 12 TO 13 WINS , AND I HOPE THE GLAZERS SEE THIS,, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN , THIS TEAM IS NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO DO THAT , I SEE THIS TEAM GOING BACKWARDS NEXT YEAR , WINNING 3 OR 4 GAMES AT BEST WITH THE SCHEDULE THEY HAVE,, LOVIE IS A LOOSER AT BEING A COACH FOR TAMPA BUC’S !!!!!!!
January 4th, 2016 at 8:44 pm
What is with the Revis crap? Really? I’m getting soooo tired of that as if Revis was somehow going to win games for us playing at DB!!! So he stops the other team’s top receiver…who stops their freaking TE.
16 million was an absurd amount for any CB!!! The fact that he took less than we offered to leave…the fact that he only lasted ONE year with Belicheat…the fact that his Jets are just like the Bucs…finding a way to choke themselves out of the playoffs.
Schianos record 11 – 21
Lovies record. 8 – 24
What else is there to say
There’s plenty to say. For example you could say Schiano’s mark is a whopping
8% better than Lovies for that two year comparison. But then of course some stats nerd would come along and say the sample size is too small…but hey that’s not Lovie’s fault that Schiano can’t get a job in the NFL.
Or somebody could say that Bill Billcheat’s record was a losing record all the way through the Browns and his first year with the Pats..until he magically got a sixth round QB who turned out to be a winner. 41-55 in his career before he found Brady with two different teams!!!!
And so what do we say about those numbers? This is not to defend Lovie…he hasn’t done a great job…it is to try and bring a little perspective.
Anybody who thinks the reason this franchise is in the toilet is because of ONE man is drinking some powerful kool aid served daily…by the minute right here at JBF!!
January 5th, 2016 at 9:16 pm
The boys may be spending enough to stay out of trouble after trying every other way, but they cannot be absolved for the rampant turnover and circus of a building they control remotely. Ed, the angriest one, routinely patrols empty offices and media desks while everyone’s at RJS on gameday. Their paranoid heavyhandedness is the reason they have a simpleton, Ford, as their lackey-in-chief.
I know they read this religiously, so hi.