Joe Talks Koetter, Lovie, Mike Smith, Jameis Reaction & More
January 7th, 2016
Thanks to Todd Wright for bringing Joe on prime time sports radio this evening, filling in for The Big Dog, Steve Duemig of WDAE-AM 620.
There was, um, plenty to talk about.
Enjoy.
January 7th, 2016 at 6:49 pm
Joe…you’re hired!
January 7th, 2016 at 7:03 pm
Lovie Smith got fired. Happy Birthday Jameis Winston.
January 7th, 2016 at 7:15 pm
87 – – You are something else. Did you not hear Winston praise Lovie at the last press conference. I am sure he is saddened by what has happened. He was a supporter of Lovie. Happy Birthday?
January 7th, 2016 at 7:24 pm
We are now the Cleveland Browns of the NFC; a new coach every two years. Ownership has really taken this franchise to a new low. So Lovie was fired and Koetter is in talks with other teams. We could lose both. The Bucs are a young team and need continuity in the coaching staff. If the Glazers hire Koetter as HC, then okay, but if a new HC comes in (not Koetter) he brings a new system, new assistants, etc. It sets us back years. I hope in the next day or two we hear Koetter has accepted the HC job.
January 7th, 2016 at 7:28 pm
I don’t think fans realize the risk of this whole team getting blown up and setting the clock back with this coaching move. There is a real chance Koetter get offered mutable HC offers and doesn’t choose the Bucs. Even if he takes the job who do you put in at OC and DC (Mike Bajakian/Cullen & Mike Smith/Hardy?) and will they be effective.
Other coach candidates maybe Jim Swartz & Eric Mangini as DC
Ben Mcadoo (NYG OC) and Tom Clements (GB AHC & QB coach)
January 7th, 2016 at 7:29 pm
godzilla13…Lovie Smith is the WORST coach for JW development. DESPITE what Joe and a few others like to tell us. NO Jameis NEVER praised Lovie. He used a blanket statement saying all our coaches are great. Never singled out Lovie Smith.
Did you see the look on Winston’s face in the Skins game when Lovie decided to kick the FG instead of going for the dagger? Faces are undeniable. Not just the Skins game as well. It was Lovie’s job to be at the podium calling out his players and the Glazers took notice.
Thee end.
January 7th, 2016 at 7:33 pm
godzilla14…please point to where Winston praised Lovie. It’s like I said a few days ago. Some of you believe what you want to believe and see and hear what you want to see and hear.
Not once was Lovie singled out by Jamies. Not once.
January 7th, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Yes, Lovie was singled out by Jameis. It’s all there in the Sunday postgame video.
January 7th, 2016 at 7:53 pm
Good Interveiw Joe
Refelecting back on this comment..
“He’s led three franchises — and three quarterbacks — to a top-10-ranked offense. That feat hasn’t been accomplished, to the best of Joe’s research, since the late Ed Hughes, whose last top-10 offense was with the dominant Bears of the 1980s”
Mr. Hughes wasn’t the ONLY one Steve
Ever heard of Chan Gailey????
Chan Gailey (Top-10 Offensive Finishes)
• 1990 DEN 8th – John Elway
• 1997 PIT 6th – Kordell Stewart
• 1998 DAL 8th – Troy Aikman
• 2015 NYJ 10th – Ryan Fitzpatrick
Here’s the thing: Dan Reeves called the plays in Denver. Gailey was head coach in Dallas. –Joe
January 7th, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Oh Boy Vic’s going to make me watch that video again….
January 7th, 2016 at 8:14 pm
Yeah he said All my coaches are good Coach Koetter is an amazing Coach…Coach Lovie is an amazing coach all in one breath. Okay I’m wrong, but it was more about all the coaches….
January 7th, 2016 at 8:19 pm
I certainly did not expect him to call out his coaches…
Oh well he’s gone. Next!
January 7th, 2016 at 8:29 pm
You’re always entertaining, Joe. And man, I still can’t believe they actually fired Lovie. After this move, my faith in the Glazers has been somewhat restored.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:30 pm
So, let get this right…You fire a coach who has been with the team for 2 yrs, and has taken a team to the superbowl. has made improvement to the team, was building something special and knows what it takes to win. All to hire an OC with no head coaching experience? Just because you and a few no nothing how to build a team fans want instant gratification? No wonder we are the laughing stock of the NFL. 3 coaches in five yrs. We truly deserve to be, Bottom feeders. I bet the rest of our divisional rivals are lughing their A’s off..as am I. Good luck Bucs. cause you’re gonna need more that that.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:34 pm
“Here’s the thing: Dan Reeves called the plays in Denver.”
Yes Dan Reeves was the Head Coach, but while Chan Gailey was the offensive Coordinator he called majority of the plays. John Elways praised Gailey for taking his game to another level. Elway actually helped (ref) Gailey him get the Dallas Job.
“Gailey was head coach in Dallas. – Joe”
He was HC/OC while he was there.
Please Ref: Previous conversations John Elway & Troy Aikman had concerning Gailey.
Here’s more facts for you.
http://www.footballperspective.com/chan-gailey-quarterback-whisperer/
January 7th, 2016 at 8:37 pm
L. Smith was a Superbowl LOSER…..Sam Wyche and Bobby Ross were coaches of Super Bowl teams as well. Where are they now?
January 7th, 2016 at 8:37 pm
This is what I see. Koetter will be HC, we’ll hire a more DRIVEN and COMPETENT DC, maybe an OC that Koetter can trust, if not, he’ll multitask like all good coaches can do. This way theres continuity with JW3 and the rest of the rookie O. The D looked so stupid running that scheme so now that will be fixed…and thats the only learning curve I see with the team. The D sucked so it is what it is…change was needed or it wouldve been the same old crap next season!
January 7th, 2016 at 8:38 pm
Hey LUV, what you think about using Glennon as trade bait to move up and draft Ramsey? Im pretty sure he’s going top 5.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:38 pm
“Just because you and a few no nothing how to build a team fans want instant gratification?”
Who’s you and a few? The majority of fans wanted him gone. From Buc Nation to JBF to Pewter Report..
January 7th, 2016 at 8:40 pm
MadMax…I’ve been thinking about a way to trade up and get Bosa most of the week.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Elle Says:
January 7th, 2016 at 8:29 pm
You’re always entertaining, Joe. And man, I still can’t believe they actually fired Lovie. After this move, my faith in the Glazers has been somewhat restored.
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Yeah, I was also surprised that the Glazers had such a good insight into the feelings of the fanbase. Half of us wanted them to “Fire Lovie”, and the other half said to “Give him more time”. So they fire Lovie and now look at all the time he has! What geniuses!
tickrdr
January 7th, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Hey Mike, Lovie inherited that superbowl team and Im pretty sure he wasnt as stubborn then as he is now with the play calling. After that the Bears went downhill. Now I see why a lot of Bear fans were saying how they felt sorry for us after we hired him. They told us we would see it eventually….well we did, so did the Glazers.
Onward! This team is going to be great again!
January 7th, 2016 at 8:42 pm
lol tickrdr
January 7th, 2016 at 8:43 pm
Thats like saying Mike Ditka didn’t, called a percentage of the plays. Of course Ed Hughes called majority of the plays. But without a shadow of doubt Ditka called ALOT of those plays. You don’t need to listen to Old sound bites to understand that.
Chan Gailey is one of the best All-Time. Give respect where it’s do brotha.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Oh Im there on Bosa too 87, Im just worried about how he took a lot off of plays this last year, plus Im looking at Jonathan Allen and he may fall to the bottom of the 1st or top of 2nd. Ramsey looks to me like a future Revis….a completely cant miss opportunity.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:46 pm
@ Buc 1987:
I would be happy to post that comparison of JW3 vs. MG8 that you requested, but only if everyone else promises not to peek. It hurts to admit you were so right.
tickrdr
January 7th, 2016 at 8:49 pm
@madmax
Gonna be great again huh?
Don’t hold your breath on that one buddy lmao you’re hilarious.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:50 pm
tickrdr…lol I’ve missed you. One of the bright spots of JBF.
I’m the JW authority of JBF my man.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:55 pm
MadMax
Whats good brotha
U know I’ve got Madd LUV for Ramsey.
-C’mon now I’m a State Fan.
But I’m only concerned about the two things
Offensive Line
Defensive Line
January 7th, 2016 at 8:59 pm
Hey Im much MUCH better now Brother!!!
Yeah, I feel you on the lines LUV….it starts in the trenches.
January 7th, 2016 at 8:59 pm
I think it was split among fans on keeping Lovie. Both Pewter Report and BucNation were close to 50/50 slightly in favor of letting him go and Buccaneers official site was heavily in favor of keeping him. Also I know personally I didn’t vote in favor of keeping him but felt more motivated to vote once I decided it was time for him to go.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:04 pm
MadMax
Unless we sign a decent backup QB – I would keep Glennon
(Solid Free QB Pick Ups)
Chase Daniel
Scott Tolzien
January 7th, 2016 at 9:06 pm
MadMax
You’ve always been solid bruh
What about trading Jack Smith???
January 7th, 2016 at 9:09 pm
I’m more down with using the Glennon pick (if we have one)….and rounds 5,6 & 6 to trade up in round 2,3 & 4 for the right players if needed.
I don’t think we should trade up in round 1 (too expensive)
I’d like to see us pick up 4 starters on Defense in the draft….along with 2 starters from FA for Defense and one WR for offense….that would be 7 new starters.
As far as coach…..we are much better off promoting Koetter and rolling the dice that he turns out to be a great coach rather than blowing up the entire staff.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:13 pm
Yes….6 new starters…..the 5 remaining players would be the 3 LBs, GMC & McDonald…..so…..2 New CBs….2 New S…..2 New DEs
I’d like to see an upgrade with our FB position….find a playmaker who can run and catch along with blocking & short yardage
With the WR (if possible)….I’d like speed with a combo WR/PR/KR
Also, either find a punter who can do kickoffs like Koenen….or, carry 2 kickers.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:14 pm
Na man, I wouldnt even consider it. He’s about the only bright spot we have @DE. He’s in his 2nd year, played less games this year than last and still had more sacks and pressure. He’s a keeper….he just needs to work on putting a little more muscle on his frame. The big guys can push him around pretty easily.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:15 pm
“in his 2nd year” I meant.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:19 pm
And…..87
There is absolutely no denying that Jameis is very fond of Lovie…..after all Lovie drafted him and spent a great deal of time with him during that process…..
I do feel, however that Koetter & probably Bajakian are more important to Jameis’ development….and that Jameis is very young and can adapt to new coaches….he just went from Jimbo…..he can deal with it.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:23 pm
I really they get this done with koetter. He will be the next guy to help this team get a superbowl.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:24 pm
Maxx
He’s terrible against the run though bruh. I’m sure he would be a solid 3-4 backer
though
January 7th, 2016 at 9:30 pm
Dirk Koetter – Offensive Coordinator
Jim Schwartz – Defensive Coordinator
Schwartz would give us the upper hand on signing Mario Williams & Nigel Bradham
January 7th, 2016 at 9:30 pm
Let’s not avoid the obvious y’all. This organization has no idea how to find and hire a competent HC. Dungy was the only good coach the Glazers have hired and that was by default as he was their third choice. The only realistic hope we can have is sheer luck.
Unfortunately better chances are they bring in the wrong guy who will set the franchise back as they have been doing over and over.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:31 pm
Yeah, Im all about pass rush though. Our run D wasnt too bad, especially when Spence was in.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:32 pm
TBBF…I concur with every post you just made.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:33 pm
Koetter for hc. Frank Reich figurehead oc/qb coach Jim Schwartz dc
January 7th, 2016 at 9:36 pm
87 – “but it was more about all the coaches”….
12/23/15 – “I think without Coach Smith, I probably wouldn’t be where I am as far as the mental capacity and what it takes to be a true professional in this league,” Winston told the Chicago media. “The way that he treats us players and the way that he holds us accountable for everything, that really teaches you how to be a great man”. “Everything that he says is a teaching moment, it’s a walking teaching tape.”
09/11/15 – “That’s why I believe these players fight for Coach Smith because they know he genuinely loves them and wants to not only make us great football players, but great men,” Winston said. “He believes if we have great men on this football team, we’re going to have a successful outcome. Just his values and how he views life, I just look up to him because that’s a great man.”
January 7th, 2016 at 9:36 pm
My money’s on Koetter. I’d bet the house it’s Koetter. Yes Licht looked disturbed in the presser, that was until they mentioned Koetter. I saw his face change a little bit that hinted towards Koetter. He has a terrible poker face. Watch the presser again. It’s the same thing I picked up on pre-draft when he was asked if they were going to take Winston only not so giddy, but his face and expression did change just a slight when he talked about Koetter.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:39 pm
godzilla ….I already admitted I was wrong. There’s also a thousand ways I could dissect what he said on both occasions but that might start a fight.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:40 pm
Let’s just say it’s Stephen A Smith-like. Fill in the blanks.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Here is the deal with Koetter……he is a breath of fresh air…..he handles his press conferences totally differently than Lovie…..I think the fans like him because he’s a straight shooter…..he will say “we played like $hit”
Sure, you have to win….you have to have your players playing well….but you also have to win the PR war….especially for a developing team.
For me the greatest failure of Lovie Smith was the message…..it was predictable…uninspiring….coy….guarded….and lacked a vision of real hope.
I think you can chalk up some of our Offensive difficulties to youth…..there is a lot more to being a head coach than calling plays….
I don’t know if Koetter is that guy….but I’m sure willing to give him a shot…
January 7th, 2016 at 9:43 pm
And the players all loved Raheem too….go figure. Fill in the blanks…
January 7th, 2016 at 9:43 pm
Didn’t Tom Coughlin win two Super Bowls by defeating the Patriots?
Why wouldn’t you give a guy like that one hell of a good look?
We don’t even know if Koetter wants this job. I’ve read reports he is pissed Lovie was fired.
If he is the superstar you all say he is I am sure these other teams will take notice. For all we know he might prefer the Titans.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:47 pm
looks like we need a waaaaaaaaaaambulance for the lovie lovers. all that happened was admitting a mistake was made and move on sooner than later…just like they had to do with lovie’s free agent choices.
the glazers want a winner, not a mediocre, like some of you idjits do. hell, they are putting up millions of dollars to make it happen. lovie smith was a mistake hire. for the silly ones that thought he was like dungy and harkened back to those days, i even said it would take another coach (offensive-minded) like gruden, then to win the bowl.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:47 pm
I don’t think they would have fired Lovie if they didn’t have Koetter to fall back on……now they may find someone else….but you’ve got to know that Licht & the Glazers knew they had Koetter in their back pocket.
There are several other teams looking for coaches….they wouldn’t have take the chance…it would have been easier to do what everyone expected and give Lovie another year….but what would have happened if Koetter left….there would have been a total rebellion.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:50 pm
TBBF…exactly my point. I think they are telling us they will work diligently, just so we think they are working diligently, but Koetter already knows. I think it will be announced no later than this coming Monday.
January 7th, 2016 at 9:55 pm
Todd Wright is so good. Nice job yourself there Joe (Steve 😛)!
January 7th, 2016 at 9:57 pm
Lovie lost me at the Skins game. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but when he kicked that FG instead of going for the win near the goal line, it was over for me. Couple that with seeing JW’s face when they called him back to the bench.
My favorite Lovie Smith line of the last 2 years is very telling what we have suffered through with him. I would now like Lovie’s Lovers to defend this statement as well.
“Right before the half, I didn’t want to put more points on the board. I didn’t feel like we could, only thing that could happen was something bad then.– Lovie Smith on why he didn’t run a play with 11 seconds left in the first half from the Buccaneers’ 40 yard line, despite multiple timeouts available.”
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/09/lovie-i-didnt-want-to-put-points-on-the-board/
January 7th, 2016 at 10:02 pm
Embarrassing to watch sports center and all the analysts are basically laughing at our organization. If this team makes another blunder hire there will be crickets in the seats……its a sad sad day to be a Bucs fan
January 7th, 2016 at 10:02 pm
87…..this one if for you..
My most joyous moment in the 2015 season was an incompleted pass….that’s right….incomplete…
It was the pass that went off Humphries hands for what would have been a NFL rookie record 6 touchdown passes in a game…..a holding call would have nullified it anyway…but that didn’t matter to me.
At that moment….I said to my self….”Oh my God, that is our Quarterback”
January 7th, 2016 at 10:05 pm
TBBF-
So you think the Glaziers spoke to Koetter before they let Lovie go to get assurance he wouldn’t take another head coaching job offer?
I hope this is true because at this point I’m not assuming Koetter will choose the Bucs offer if it comes over all or any HC offers.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:06 pm
@ Buccaneers
It’s never a sad day to be a Buc fan…..you have to “find the joy”……
I will be asking Joe to do a countdown “20 Greatest Buc Moments of 2015”
Of course #1 was the drafting of Jameis.
Try being an Eagle fan….never won a Superbowl….their team gets blown up by a coach that gets fired….and they lose miserably to a rookie QB and the lowly Tampa Bay Bucs……try that on for misery
January 7th, 2016 at 10:10 pm
@stranglassman
No…I don’t think the Glazers spoke to Koetter….I think they were taking a calculated risk….there may have been some communication with Licht….skirting around the edges….maybe even earlier in the year….but not the Glazers.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:19 pm
That the local media was so big on Lovie despite his obvious shortcomings is why I pay no attention to their overall agenda. I get the feeling they feel the firing of Lovie was politically incorrect. The day the Bucs Dungy tree died.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:19 pm
And….to change the subject…..for all you Mike Evans detractors…..
Just think…..there were those who urged us to make Johnny Football our franchise QB…
Now, a drop here and there….doesn’t feel so bad…
Feel the Joy!!!
January 7th, 2016 at 10:20 pm
Stanglassman…I don’t think so either, but I do think Koetter was told today that he’s the new HC if he wants it.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:22 pm
TBBF…that “find the joy” is absolutely priceless.
I’d make that the new team slogan for 2016 instead of Seige the Day.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:22 pm
Come on man……Lovie getting fired represents how disfuctional and inept the Bucs have been for over a decade now. Right now they are one of the worst franchises in football. We are incapable of having a winning season and, to me, that is sad.
Searching for joy within meaningless stats and records is something I refuse to do. This team gives its fans nothing to be proud of. Management has proven incapable of assembling a contending team. At the moment I can go to a game and not be ridiculed by opposing fans for embarrassing our team on our field…….then maybe I could see some joy.
But for right now this team absolutely sucks. And that is not debatable. This franchise has failed year after year after year. To find joy within this mess of a team is to accept garbage. At least that’s my opinion
January 7th, 2016 at 10:26 pm
I am saddened that Buc fans are demoralized….pessimistic….depressed….and they have every reason to be.
I sat in the seat at the Sombrero 40 years ago and watched the Bucs lose game after game and become a laughing stock of the league.
We are far from those times….I can recall simply feeling joy when we had a sack or completed a pass…..touchdowns were scarce.
What I can say to you now is that you need to find at least a small bit of joy with Jameis….Marpet….Kwon……and even a player like Humphries…..look back at the joy of stomping the Eagles….helping to hasten the exit of Chip Kelly who jilted us.
Find some joy.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:29 pm
The 2016 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Find The Joy.
Call for tickets at….
I can see the billboard now.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:30 pm
@ Buccaneers
I guess you and I are simply coming from a different place…..each person has their own way of being a fan…..you can’t make a person feel or think like you….and, I’m not trying to do that.
I am merely giving some encouraging words in the face of discouragement.
I feel your pain.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:32 pm
I have been happy with the thought of Koetter but then started thinking deeper. What actions did Koetter take to keep his offensive line from false starts? What actions did Koetter take to real in childish Mike Evans? A huge number of penalties, dropped passes, and bad player behavior was under Koetters responibility. Is he really the answer? Not so sure.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:34 pm
How about Dye, Humphries…and Brate….first TDs this year…..it was certainly a joyful moment for them…..and for me too…..
Find the Joy….
January 7th, 2016 at 10:38 pm
Onward! The Bucs will be great again!
We are well on our way fellas and this is just the continuation of it after our last draft and current evals.
To the players who hated this….thats the business of the NFL. You get paid to win at your position, Coaching included. Be disciplined and keep playing hard guys. This wasnt personal. We all love Lovie as a person. He just wasnt getting the job done on D.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:39 pm
I’m expecting a news conference tomorrow announcing that Bill Parcels has rejected an offer to coach the bucs.
Always happens.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:42 pm
How ’bout beating “America’s Team”……..”America’s Quarterback”….4th quarter drive….runs it in for the win…
Find the Joy!!!
Sure….Romo wasn’t playing….but don’t be a grinch…..
January 7th, 2016 at 10:42 pm
Followed by the announcement of Chris Ashe as new bucs coach.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:43 pm
Tbbf. I’m sorry you had to endure so much losing 40 years ago. It almost seems like your using those years as a guage to justify this losing streak and almost excuse. No fan should have to suffer that and that’s what happened. Many fans from those days refused to follow that garbage and pledged their allegiance to other team. Tampa lost tons of fans due to that losing. That’s what is happening now. The club is losing fans due to this and will lose plenty more if this incompetence continues………this losing should not be accepted by the true fans in my opinion and we shouldnt be forced to reach at straws to enjoy the game
January 7th, 2016 at 10:44 pm
How about….Kwon Alexander (rookie)…..just taking the f-cking ball away from Julio Jones……Julio Jones!!!
Find the Joy!!!
January 7th, 2016 at 10:50 pm
Yeah this team doesn’t need a rookie HC to lead a stumbling disorganized team. This franchise has looked more like a head coach fantasy camp in the past year rather then an NFL franchise….We need a calculated confident experienced Coach who will come in here and teach this team how to play like winners………….I don’t see Koetter being the answer, of course I could be wrong. It’s hard to know what’s under somebody’s skin.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:50 pm
@ Buccaneers
I don’t accept losing….don’t like it….hate it just like you do….I just have a different way of dealing with it….it’s what keeps me a fan. I would have folded up years ago without it.
I am desirous of another SB before my days are done….and the clock is ticking.
I am as impatient as anyone about it.
I simply choose to hope that we can build on what we have and I think we have a better start on that than we’ve had in years.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:51 pm
So tell me tbbf. What joy did you find in week 17?
January 7th, 2016 at 10:52 pm
I don’t really care what the Glazers do now with the new staff. I’m glad they made a change though because this team under Lovie was almost too painful to watch. The Glazers are Owners but they are true fans and it had to be painful for them. The bright side is Licht had a good draft and with a couple more the Bucs may have the players to make any coach a winner. At least we have something new and exciting to look forward to.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:54 pm
We just had a confident, experienced HC that came in and failed. There was a vast, vast majority that thought Lovie was a great hire for the Bucs….wrong.
Koetter might not be the answer….but some of the other names out there have their negatives too.
The frustrating thing as fans is that we don’t get to choose.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:55 pm
OK tbbf, I feel ya man. So long as your not happy with losing I can understand you. And yeah we all have to deal with in differently, its what makes the world go round
January 7th, 2016 at 10:58 pm
Buccaneers Says:
January 7th, 2016 at 10:51 pm
So tell me tbbf. What joy did you find in week 17?
Leading 3-0…..sacking Cammy 4 times (temporarily wiping that $hit-eating grin)
Other than that….absolute misery….I live in NC surrounded by Panther fans…but I wear my Buc colors most every day.
January 7th, 2016 at 10:59 pm
BigMacAttack Says:
January 7th, 2016 at 10:52 pm
“I don’t really care what the Glazers do now with the new staff. I’m glad they made a change though because this team under Lovie was almost too painful to watch.”
Correctamundo….I was in here mid-season saying that I walk out of the room when the D is on the field. I did that for about 3 weeks. It was that bad.
I also made one of my crazy proclamations that I was ridding myself of all things Bucs and tearing down my Buc Cave here at home until Lovie was fired.
It was THAT bad.
January 7th, 2016 at 11:00 pm
@ Buccaneers
& I forgot…..Jameis’ pressor…
January 7th, 2016 at 11:07 pm
@ Buccaneers……& Joe Too
One more difference between me and some other fans…
There is no such thing as meaningless…..no meaningless games in particular..
Players sustain career ending injuries in meaningless games….coaches lose their jobs from meaningless games….players set records…..all sorts of meaningful things happen in “meaningless” games…….so there!!!
January 7th, 2016 at 11:09 pm
What I was trying to describe was a disciplinary type coach. Lovie let too much slide. We have a young team and I don’t see lovies style being able to teach them how to win.
Evans should have been taken off the field for some big third down plays. Austin Jenkins had me business on the field in the last few games. Our kicker should of been fired by week 3. Rainey should have been relieved of return duties. The pentaltys could have been addressed through pentaltys…….the list goes on and on
January 7th, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Nighty Night….
I’ll have a restful night’s sleep and wake up knowing we’re one day closer to our next Superbowl……
Find the Joy
January 7th, 2016 at 11:15 pm
I was very torn about this whole deal. On one hand, I could see that Lovie had to go. He just wasn’t getting it done. On the other hand, I didn’t want to go down the “firing your 3rd head coach in 5 years scenario”.
But, the facts are facts. Under Lovie, this team has suffered more embarrassing losses than I can remember. Just look at the quarterbacks that have gutted Lovis defense.
2015
Keenum
Cassel
Cousins
Hasselbeck
Mallett
2014
Anderson x2
Davis
Hoyer
You can’t be a defensive minded head coach and continue to lose to back up QBs. And some of these guys on this list had outstanding days playing the Bucs. This, in my opinion, is what sealed Lovies fate.
Every other NFL defense sees a back up QB starting and they start foaming at the mouth. These types of losses should never happed. Thats 9 games thrown away because of an incompetent defense. Lovie had to go.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:03 am
^ ^ ^
Exactly!
January 8th, 2016 at 12:13 am
I’ve been watching videos related to Lovie’s firing all over the Internet and most of the so called “experts” seem shocked by this move. Makes me kinda angry, how can they be called “analysts” if they don’t even know what was the situation in Tampa exactly. Just because the Bucs improved to 6 wins this year it doesn’t mean that Lovie was the right man for the job. These “experts” have missed a lot of the negatives that we had to endure, such as the ridiculous defense from a coach who was supposed to be a master of the defensive side, not to mention the whole mellow attitude and the same tirade over and over, presser after presser (“We’ll get better”, “Simple as that”).
What in the world is happening in Tampa? Are they dumb to fire Lovie in such a fashion? Hell no, what in the world is wrong with these people who arrogantly comment on this move by our ownership without even bothering checking how the fans feel about the state of THEIR franchise.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:16 am
Elle …media Elle…the media.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:24 am
“this losing should not be accepted by the true fans”
and it wasn’t, by the ultimate fans…they fired the mistake!
week 18, lovie got the plank.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:25 am
Yes, 87, you’re right, I get it, the media is like that, but it’s still so annoying. Anyway, glad he’s gone. Next step, get rid of anybody who has something against Winston taking full leadership of the team. I don’t care who they might be, just cut them, trade them, ship them away… whatever. The future has one name and one name only, and those who disagree with such future are free to go play elsewhere.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:26 am
“Lovie let too much slide. We have a young team and I don’t see lovies style being able to teach them how to win.
Evans should have been taken off the field for some big third down plays. Austin Jenkins had me business on the field in the last few games. Our kicker should of been fired by week 3. Rainey should have been relieved of return duties. The pentaltys could have been addressed through pentaltys…….the list goes on and on”
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you noticed all this and think lovie should have stayed? issue, my friend. issues.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:30 am
i love me some jameis christ, but he still has more to prove. and i believe the coach should show leadership, and others, not just the qb.
jesus had apostles but also followed john the baptist.
January 8th, 2016 at 12:34 am
Hahahaha, Lurker, that got me laughing quite a bit ^^ Great analogy, chapeau. And yes, you’re right after all. I don’t know if Koetter is the chosen one, but whoever will coach the Bucs next season better be someone who will instill some fear in the players. I don’t want to say a disciplinarian, but…
January 8th, 2016 at 1:16 am
caught me off-guard with chapeau. had to look that one up.
January 8th, 2016 at 1:46 am
Go Bucs!
January 8th, 2016 at 12:57 pm
It is an interesting question about why Dirk Koetter did not replace Mike Smith in Atlanta when Smith was fired last year? Obviously the owners in Atlanta did not feel Koetter was qualified because they released him as wel and in reading several Atlanta Falcons blogs the fans felt the same. I do not think the Glazer’s fired Lovie Smith because they are afraid of losing Dirk Koetter. Even though Koetter is receiving multiple interviews for HC opportunities I still feel there are just more qualified candidates out there who would be the best choice for this football team.