Indicting Lovie For Bad Coaching
January 5th, 2016
America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, passionately called Lovie Smith “an amazing coach” on Sunday night.
But Jameis also poured his heart out saying too much of Lovie’s team has the wrong mentality, including their “whys,” as in they don’t know why they come to work each day.
Raw, unleashed Jameis didn’t mean to slap his head coach, but that’s exactly what he did.
The essence of coaching, even more important than getting the most out of your available talent, is to get players on the same page with a singular and direct focus. Lovie has not done it — in two full NFL seasons. (He hasn’t gotten the most out of his talent, either.)
Jameis, just 21-years-old can see Lovie’s failure to unite the Bucs, and it feels like that failure has been simmering within Jameis for weeks.
On Sunday and Monday, Jameis said he believes he is the one to galvanize the roster and teach it how to seize a football game and “want it” more than an opponent.
God Bless, Jameis. But the guy shouldn’t be taking on head coaching duties.
Lovie loves claiming his staff is full of “stern teachers,” yet Lovie admits the teaching hasn’t gotten through. Players, per Lovie, have tuned out the teaching on penalties and too much defensive education didn’t get through. Lovie admits all that.
But what too often gets ignored is Lovie’s responsibility for failing to instill a winning attitude, a winning approach to every play.
It’s Lovie’s greatest failure.
Ironically, the greatest Tampa Bay coaching strength of Lovie’s mentor, Father Dungy, was instilling that winning approach. Dungy had questionable Xs and Os philosophies, but you never heard Dungy teams skewered for not understanding why they come to work every day.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:07 am
Another day of Anthony Becht on a Philly radio station (97.5) pushing Dirk as a potential Eagles head coach. He said it’s his time to be a head coach and spoke about the wonders he has done with young QB’s.
Ugh….we are going to be stuck with Lovie while DK is somewhere else.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:09 am
But incompetent Lovie Smith is going to calmly tell them to be winners and “we’ll get there”. Nothing like instilling confidence in your players, fellow coaches and fans.
Yuck
January 5th, 2016 at 9:09 am
Now…..here is the place where all the “fire Lovie” posts are appropriate…..
There will be plenty of opportunities to vent.
FYI…..I don’t disagree.
Sometimes some players simply aren’t coachable…..so a change of scenery is warranted….and, sure….the change of scenery could also be for the coach.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:14 am
Lovie has not done a good job. I think Lovie himself agree with that.
But the comparisons are just growing tiresome. I keep tossing mine in with Bill Belicheat’s losing record at both Clevelenad and N.E. until he got Brady!
Comparing the character on Dungy’s teams and concluding that it’s Dungy’s credit and Lovies lack of credit that these two teams do not share the same qualities of character is just out there.
Just look at the teams…are you really suggesting that because GMC is not the same leader as Sapp…or LVD not Brooks or Jonathan Banks is not Ronde Barber is simply unfair. These are two different teams! In addition some of the questionable behavior has been due to our extreme youth. Some of these guys may yet grow up…others will have to leave.
As for the talent on this team….two former Buc Front office guys were FIRED yesterday!!! Dennis Hickey got the axe as Dolphin’s GM and the Titans fired Ruston Webster as their GM another former Buc front office guy. Dominik does not have a job…Schiano had to go back to the college ranks….Rah is still trying to work his way back..he’s young and was the victim of the ManU disaster he might make it back.
Since the Super Bowl..Chucky had a LOSING record…
I’m not suggesting Lovie has done a good job…what I am trying to suggest is it is overly simplistic to lay all of this at Lovie’s feet. This organization has been a mess since the death of Malcolm and the decision to enrich the family forever with the ManU deal.
No Lovie has not done a good job. But those of you who think that he’s the only or even major problem with the franchise are simply being waaaay to simplistic when diagnosing the problems of the Bucs since the SB win.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:17 am
Did Jameis actually say “lovie” is an amazing coach, or did he say that the coaches are amazing!!! Because the difference is he primarily works with Coach Keotter and other offensive coaches!!!!
unfortunately there is more than just a bad mentality around 1 Buc! there is no accountability ( especially if you are a lovie guy ) There is sloppy preparation for game, for techniques! poor talent evaluation! And if some of you sheep, think that this head coach is going to snap his fingers and it will all look so very different next year, I have new for you!!
So go ahead and start stocking up on excuses!!! ( they need time to gel ) so and so is hurt, or they would have made a run!! We cannot make changes for 2017, because continuity is what wins in this league!!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 9:20 am
Are pigs flying over Raymond James his morning!?
Halle-freaking-lulah!
I am so damn sick and tired of hearing fans defend Lovie saying that it isn’t his fault if the team comes out flat or gets penalties. Yes…it is.
It is the head coach’s job to have his team prepared to win football games…mentally, schematically, physically, emotionally…if it isn’t getting through, then he isn’t coaching it right. Period.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:26 am
I would fire Lovie and promote DK if that what it took to keep DK. The defense has not improved and the loser mentality seems to be on that side of the ball. I would trade McCoy because I feel that he is a big part of the loser mentality that JW was talking about. He has tried to muzzle JW all year and has never shown to be a true winner. It would send a strong message to the team that the mentality of the team will be changing. Imagine if we could move McCoy and get the Dallas 4th overall pick and have two picks in the top 10.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:26 am
StPeteBuc nailed it…..since the Super Bowl the Bucs payroll has been in the bottom 10, the job Chucky did with aging players on a salary cap budget was stellar. Nobody has come close to producing a competitive product since. The Glazier boys are great business men but terrible football owners. You simply cant look your fan base in the eye and honestly say you are trying to build a winner when we’ve finished dead last in the division for 5 straight years….You cant honestly say you are trying to build a foundation for a consistent contender when you hire folks with ZERO professional experience and dump not ONE BUT TWO SUPERBOWL WINNING COACHES! Dominick was a joke of a GM….The hirings of Rah and Schiano never had a chance and now you have a very solid GM but a terrible coach/game manager. If we lose Koetter, this team will once again tumble backwards and the campaign of building for the future will be extended for another 5 yrs.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:27 am
If wins determine success, then Lovie will be gone next year. I can’t see us winning more than 6 games again with the schedule we have drawn. I know those teams will lose players etc. but I can see us losing the whole home series. The weakest team we play is St. Loius and we saw how we did against them last year. Its make or break for Lovie, whish is just the way I want to see it!! He needs to pull his head out of his ass and fire this team up. There needs to be discipline to stop all those personal fouls. I think a coach needs a minimum of three years to prove himself (unless he is clueless) and then we need to move on. If Lovie fails next year and the offense continues to improve, I think the logical choice is to give Koetter the HC job.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:33 am
Sunshine is the best antiseptic – if there is a locker room problem, clean the locker room – and if it takes Jameis to break out the lysol so be it
January 5th, 2016 at 9:35 am
Chip Kelly practically blew up his entire team…..likely because the players he got rid of weren’t buying his coaching….it didn’t work so now he’s gone….and Chip Kelly is a coach the Glazers & most Buc fans wanted to see come to Tampa.
The wanted to run Ron Rivera out of town in Charlotte….now look.
Sean Payton is in trouble in NO….may barely hang onto his job.
The point is….like players, coaches can be a crapshoot……they have successes and failures.
Sure….Lovie is responsible….but it’s not like he is up for reelection and we can vote him out or recall him. That is the task of the Glazers….and apparently, they have made their choice.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:39 am
As usual TBBF you have nailed it as has Bobby M.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:41 am
Jameis needs to be a part of the decision making for the draft and free agency.
Let Jameis also interview all the future hungry for playoffs players.
BTW – coaches don’t change players. They bring inspiration to be their best they can be. But that only works when you have players eager to improve. Many are there for the money only. Those players are the food for losing. And no i’m not taking responsibility away from an adult millionaire. But you have to love Lovie and Licht decision to cut their players who fool them about playing hard after signing their contract.
The Bucs need to improve on identifying what drives the players they acquire.
Jameis is the perfect role model so far. Lovie and Licht sign more LIONS!!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 9:42 am
This is the biggest knock on Lovie.
He was brought here to foster a winning mentality and bring the franchise back to relevancy.
He also told the fans we shouldn’t be patient in his first presser.
He has failed miserably on both fronts as we’re counting on his second rookie class to change the mentality of this team and now two years in he’s telling us this takes time “it’s a process”. Bullsh*t!
He didn’t inherit the youngest roster in the league, there was talent in key areas on this team and he hasn’t done anything. Other coaches have done more with less (Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden come to mind).
I think we’re spinning our wheels with this guy and wasting good players in their prime.
Lovie will be fired next year.
Siege this!
Go Sucs!
Losers again!
January 5th, 2016 at 9:42 am
FIRE LOVIE, “SIMPLE AS THAT”…How can Bucs fans look forward to next season with this garbage coach and another string of false promises and excuses. I’m starting to think that not only do we have players who are going through the motions to collect a paycheck, but Lovie himself. He’s a broken record with his statements. END IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 9:44 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 9:35 am
Chip Kelly practically blew up his entire team…..likely because the players he got rid of weren’t buying his coaching….it didn’t work so now he’s gone….and Chip Kelly is a coach the Glazers & most Buc fans wanted to see come to Tampa.
The wanted to run Ron Rivera out of town in Charlotte….now look.
Sean Payton is in trouble in NO….may barely hang onto his job.
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Chip Kelly’s worst season in Philly won more games than Lovie’s best so far
Ron Rivera was gone until he embraced Riverboat Ron
Sean Payton is in trouble? LOL no. He’s available for a 1st round pick or more. Saints are not firing him at all. They’re just in cap hell and need a lot of help to rebuild.
Oh yeah, the other thing? All of those guys were coaching NFL game 1 when they got to their jobs. Lovie, for a reminder, was on game 145. Our coach only had 145 times more experience, yet has unquestionably performed worse. Yet another indictment against. Not that there are many good reasons to bring him back mind you.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:53 am
I am saddened that Buc fans are demoralized….pessimistic….depressed….and they have every reason to be. Lovie will be retained and they see failure facing the Bucs.
I sat in the seat at the Sombrero 40 years ago and watched the Bucs lose game after game and become a laughing stock of the league.
We are far from those times….I can recall simply feeling joy when we had a sack or completed a pass…..touchdowns were scarce.
What I can say to you now is that you need to find at least a small bit of joy with Jameis….Marpet….Kwon……and even a player like Humphries…..look bak at the joy of stomping the Eagles….helping to hasten the exit of Chip Kelly who jilted us.
Find some joy.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:57 am
Incompetent Lovie Smith remains employed as Bucs HC because this town is fully accepting of mediocrity. This would not be tolerated in Philly, NY, Denver, etc. Only a handful of cities/ownership/fanbases endure the type of mediocre football teams that Lovie Smith trots out there on Sundays and sadly Tampa is one of them.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:59 am
All we can do for now is begrudgingly respect the decision of those who hold the checkbook (Glazer’s). However if we stop buying merchandise and wasting money on TV packages for those of us not close enough to Tampa or going to the games for those that do live in the area (or make the journey) than maybe we have some influence on the outcome of the HC situation? At the end of the day the NFL is an entertainment business and the fans have some pull if the majority say “we’re not spending our money on your product until you !”
January 5th, 2016 at 10:00 am
^^^ insert change….in this case HC
January 5th, 2016 at 10:03 am
As I said, Jameis is more of a HC than what we already have. It’s a sad, sad reality that we have to deal with this crap for 1 more year.
January 5th, 2016 at 10:29 am
I recently relocated to ATL, but still a diehard Bucs fan, it is so funny listening to ATL sports radio regarding the Falcons, scary similar, they think Matt Ryan stinks 20+ turnovers this year, stupid personal foul penalties because the coach has no discipline. Last year the fault was no runnin game, now they have a running game, now it’s the lines fault. They want the GM gone, has only had 1 good draft, the want that brought in Julio, most of others drafted are not in the league and they have done terribly in signing free agents (that are now on the streets) and oh yeah, they blame Dirk Koeter too, too funny, too similar, giving Dan Quinn another year. My apologies for talking bout the dirty birds, but it’s just too funny. Go Bucs
January 5th, 2016 at 10:57 am
Question for the continuity people…a lot of you want Lovie replaced as DC which would give us a THIRD DC in three years. How is that continuity?
It’s not. Just admit Lovie sucks and be done with it. See the light.
January 5th, 2016 at 10:57 am
This defense is a mess. Idk, maybe Lovie should do more to appeal to his locker room. Who ever made the Chip Kelly comparison is great. But I dont know per se if they hate Lovie, the way Chip was hated by his guys, but no, I mean NO ONE, esp on defense, should feel safe with a guaranteed roster spot. This team needs a reason to hit people. And Lovie is falling into the same pattern of Schiano and Raheem, of being powerless due to not having anyone better on the depth chart. Its year three. That stops now, or else. Lovie has alot more pull than the last two coaches, esp Raheem, who had no voice yet was Dominicks fall guy! #playofforfired is more than fair for Lovie, and I git the utmost confidence he will pull it off :p
January 5th, 2016 at 10:58 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 9:53 am
Find some joy.
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We will. When Lovie Smith gets fired and we get a coach to excite the fanbase instead of work better than Nyquil at putting fans to sleep.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:00 am
T REX Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 10:57 am
Question for the continuity people…a lot of you want Lovie replaced as DC which would give us a THIRD DC in three years. How is that continuity?
It’s not. Just admit Lovie sucks and be done with it. See the light
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It’s funny because a lot of them do think he sucks. They just “don’t want to become the Browns/Raiders”, so we should keep a below average coach just because those teams wouldn’t.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:30 am
I have read many comments that the team “quit” on Schiano. When I watch the games now though, it seems so often they never got started.
tickrdr
January 5th, 2016 at 11:53 am
Joe, you’re killing it today with your posts. Bravo. On point on pretty much all of them.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
TBBF, i was back in the sombrero days and the difference between those days (pre-dungy) and today is those teams played hard back in those days with a rookie qb, im talking vinny days…the coaches were terrible and no free agency and terrible drafts..but the teams were competitive however the results were the same, 2-14, 6-10, 5-11, etc until sam wyche got to tampa and had those great drafts that allowed dungy to come in and now its 2016 and its lovie ball, so we are keeping lovie around for what reason? What has he done to instill any confidence that he can turn this around? Lovie will have this team win maybe 3/4 games next year with the schedule they have, get rid of him and bring in someone who is going to instill some discipline into the most penalized team in football….go get tom coughlin or marty shottenheimer..those 2 hard asses are what the bucs and certain players need to get their full potential out and at full speed on sundays
January 5th, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Why Lovie still has a job today is beyond me. I think you give way to much credit to Lovie for Jameis. I say Jameis’s progress was made in spite of Lovie not because of Lovie. Lovie is one holding this team back. But it looks like we will have to suffer through another year of this crap like two years wasn’t enough for us. Lovie makes me wish Schiano was still the coach. At least he was smart enough to know Revis is a good player that you want on your team.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Maybe this is the reason James decline in the last 4 games…I mean when you are working your a.. off to win and your team mates are just trying to make a check and go and relax that’s enough to pissed any one off
January 5th, 2016 at 12:42 pm
Keep Lovie, do not renew Frazier’s contract. Get a mean one in as the DC (Schiano?). Bring discipline to the D like Koetter brought to the O. By all means keep Lovie.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:33 pm
I thought the “amazing coach” moniker was given to those who have won numerous Super Bowls, Division Titles, had high number of win to loss ratio’s, etc….I’m positive that another losing season or three, Winston won’t be proclaiming Lovie to be “Amazing.”
January 5th, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Lovie just flat out does not instill confiidence as a leader. He is obviously hanging onto a gig he is unqualified to manage. Nice work if you can get it and hang onto it. So Lovie eventually is cast off and his football acumen is seriously diminished. Thanks for nothing!
January 5th, 2016 at 2:04 pm
Wow! TBBF you had the post of the day. Yes we should find some joy.
We have a freaking team. They are not among those shooting for LA.
The owners have committed to “letting” the taxpayers rebuild RayJay into the palace the Glazers deserve…or should I say NFL for the SB.
We have a rookie QB who appears to be the real deal. We have a rookie MLB who also appears to be the real deal. We have two OL who started as rookies and are clearly keepers.
This blog has picked up so many irrational Lovie haters…as opposed to those who have just seen enough…that it’s hard to find any joy.
We will. When Lovie Smith gets fired and we get a coach to excite the fanbase instead of work better than Nyquil at putting fans to sleep.
We do not need an “exciting” coach. We have an “exciting” QB now and what we need are wins not excitement from a frantic coach on the sidelines.
Chuck Noll and Tom Landry were NOT exciting flashy men. I’d take their wins.
My all time fave though is Shula…not a showoff…but he could lose it when circumstances warranted.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Irrational Lovie haters? LMAO. There is nothing irrational about wanting a coach who seems over his head, can’t do anything right except draft some good players on the side of the ball he has nothing to do with(which makes no sense to me if you want to credit him for that) and hired 1 good coach who might not even be here next season. Not to mention 8-24.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:05 pm
I said this a few days ago that with all the traveling I do and people I talk with that most people outside of Tampa see the Bucs as a team on the rise. It’s only within the echo chamber of the JBF comment sections (spurred by Joe’s innuendo on all things Lovie) that the regular readers are outraged.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:11 pm
Lol how can a 2-14 team being anything other than on the rise? Unless it goes 2-14 or worse again, it’s on the rise. I think that you’re leaving out that most people still think the Bucs are one of the 10 worst teams in the league and won’t be competing for a Super Bowl for another 3-5 years. But by that logic, the Jaguars are on the rise too. Such a lofty goal, to be in the same breathe as the Jags…
January 5th, 2016 at 3:39 pm
^^^Exactly^^^ except that we ARE those teams at this point. Also at least they recognize that the past hires were the wrong ones and made the change. Here are my major problems with Lovie
1. His refusal to change his defense to fit his players.
2. His refusal to make halftime adjustments (or mid-game) when we are getting beaten by the same play over and over. It almost felt like Lovie enjoyed kicking the fans in the nutz with every slant or 5 yard comeback completed.
3. He completely depleted our depth by getting rid of starters and bringing in replacements that cost more and were completely shite (i.e. Collins-a career backup and Johnson who had 3.5 sacks the year before we signed him. Also look at this year- Melton, George Johnson, Bruce Carter (however, who would have thought Kwon would do what he did his first year), Brindza, etc.(OMG- Brindza!!)
I am laughing as I type this thinking about his shopping spree in the NFC North, but he couldn’t sign Peanut Tillman or Hester.
4. His pressers are nauseating and condescending.
5. The fact he doesn’t like to score before the half, LOL, really?
There are so many things that I can continue with, but I am about to throw my computer.
I understand where TBBF and the others are coming from about not changing coaches every 2-3 years, but it is painfully obvious that this guy is not right for the job (or any job in the NFL really) so why are we going to waste another year.
AS far as McCoy goes, I love that guy, most guys would have shut it down after the second injury, essentially he had no upper body. Having said that, if we can get a first round pick (high 1st rounder and maybe a 3rd or 4th), you pull that trigger now!!! We have NO depth and need to rebuild. Plus, he doesn’t seem to like Jameis and that is poison. Most of the young guys seem to rally around Jameis and if McCoy isn’t buying in to the “fire” that is trouble. Kinda seems a little jealous that in one year Jameis has become the leader and face of franchise. Oh Yeah and he gets hurt every year (which I don’t blame him for-just a fact…the guy gets killedin the trenches).
ASJ Take a hik- We don’t need ya. Go be great somewhere else, cause you will never be great here.
Just my opinion. It was a much better year than last year so thank you Jameis, McCoy, David, Alexander, Marpet, Hawley, Martin. Get well V-Jax-we need you back!!
P.S. Can someone please take Jacob Schum out with the rest of the trash? (that’s right, I went punter on you) This Guy Sucks! (Another Lovie guy) Licht needs some blame as well, but I trust him a hell of a lot more!!
January 5th, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Look at the Tennessee Titans. They were just as bad in 2015 as they were in 2014 even though they won one more game. You simply cannot say that about the Bucs.
I think if you would look around the NFL you can point to the teams that are building vs. the teams that are falling (or going to fall) apart and that includes playoff teams as well. Talent-wise the Buccaneers have several promising young players and established veterans. The team has a bona-fide franchise QB. I don’t care that the Rams beat us this year. You can bet the Rams fan base would love for their team to be in the Bucs position. They’re going to go another year without drafting a franchise QB. The Rams will never win anything with Nick Foles.
Sure, I get you don’t like the Bucs going 6-10 but this year, and I think you would agree, was all about Jameis’s development. He had a great year and I’m optimistic about the Bucs next year. Across all sports the Championship teams build toward that goal. It took years for the Bucs to build a Super Bowl winner. I really believe to build a perennial winner it takes time and it’s a process. That said, Bucs need to win 9 games next year.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:25 pm
The Rams are significantly better than the Bucs across the board, if they get average QB play they’re in the playoffs next year. The Bucs need top 5 QB play to make the playoffs next year…if the defense isn’t a sieve anymore. Like it or not, they are so much closer to being a playoff team than we are. In a significantly more difficult division too. Their two wins over Seattle are better than any single win the Bucs franchise has in the last 5 years. But yeah, we’re sooo much closer than they are….
And actually look deeper at 2014 Bucs vs 2015. Bucs in 2014 had the lead in the 4th quarter 7 times. In 2015 the Bucs had 4th quarter leads….7 times. Lol. People are badly overselling how much better this team got. Jameis made a difference, but people are acting like we saw a shocking improvement. Take Jameis away and this team was the same as 2014 pretty much. Against an even easier schedule too.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:59 pm
I don’t really agree with that at all. Significantly better? I think the Bucs have a better offensive line, better QB, better WRs, arguably better TE group, and a better RB duo. On defense I think the Bucs have a better future at the LB position with Kwon and David. I simply do not think Nick Foles or whoever they have back there will be enough to get them into the playoffs.
That’s nonsense and you know it. I don’t recall seeing Donovan Smith, Ali Marpet, Adam Humphries, Kwon Alexander, or Cameron Brate on the roster in 2014. I don’t recall Doug Martin being 2nd in the NFL in rushing and Charles Sims playing a significant amount of snaps in 2014. Yeah, but it’s all the same….uh huh.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:28 pm
I have to disagree with this take….too much emphasis is placed on the Head Coach, who sets the tone of the program and should keep players accountable (arguably Lovie has not done this)….but the players need to take responsibility for the culture in the locker room. I thought Jameis said it perfectly and it’s only through QB leadership that we’re going to get over the hump. Players are going to follow player leadership….coaches are teachers and game planners. But the team needs to trust each other and call each other out when players don’t show up. Next year should be interesting…
January 5th, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Whoever discusses Tom Landry or Chuck Knoll in a Lovie Smith post must have never watched the old Cowboys or Steelers. Landry was one of the most creative offensive minds ever. His offenses were the first I remember that had line shifts and put players in motion pre-snap.
When he had Dan Reeves as a halfback, Dan could throw the ball. Landry ran the option pass where it would look like a sweep and he’d tell Bob Hayes to run and they’d hookup for many touchdowns off that play.
Noll had the best defense in the history of the NFL.
Please don’t mention Lovie in the presence of legends.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:51 pm
D-Rome Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 4:59 pm
The Rams are significantly better than the Bucs across the board
I don’t really agree with that at all. Significantly better? I think the Bucs have a better offensive line, better QB, better WRs, arguably better TE group, and a better RB duo.
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We’ve lost to them 3 years in a row, in 2 blowouts and losing to the legendary Austin Davis. They are significantly better than us, we’ve seen it first hand. WR is the only place you could say we’re better. They beat the Seahawks twice, including at their place. We’d lose those two games by a combined 60 points. We have a QB and they don’t. That’s the only edge you can give us in being close to them. Their roster overall trumps ours. Not even close either, they’re one player away and we’re 10-15 players away.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:54 pm
D-Rome Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 4:59 pm
That’s nonsense and you know it. I don’t recall seeing Donovan Smith, Ali Marpet, Adam Humphries, Kwon Alexander, or Cameron Brate on the roster in 2014. I don’t recall Doug Martin being 2nd in the NFL in rushing and Charles Sims playing a significant amount of snaps in 2014. Yeah, but it’s all the same….uh huh.
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Look at the overall results and look past the surface. If you want to look just at the record and some meaningless stats, you can conclude they were significantly better. But that’s for lazy homer fans who want confirmation bias. Look deeper and you’ll actually see this team didn’t really get that much better from 2014 to 2015, except in one key area…
Basically, if Jameis was the 2014 QB, we would have gone 6-10. So the only true improvement in 2015 was the QB. If Glennon started all 2015, 4-12 is the ceiling and 2-14 is in play again. But you think we’re thisclose to contention. You’re in homerland to believe it.
January 5th, 2016 at 6:11 pm
I don’t see the comments the same way.
There are some players who cannot have the same mentality no matter how good a coach and quarterback you have. That’s why they have to be replaced (the players).
Jameis went out of his way to say the issue was NOT the coaching…that it was certain players. I think you are all reading into this.
January 5th, 2016 at 6:46 pm
He is only going to be a waste of time, mark my words.
January 5th, 2016 at 10:28 pm
You cant blame Lovie for year 1
January 5th, 2016 at 11:16 pm
Can we blame him for year 2? Or is blaming him for anything out of the question?
January 5th, 2016 at 11:19 pm
No wait, on second thought. He took a 4-12 team and gutted it all the while arrogantly saying every time he released a player “we were 4-12 last year”. Then went out and took the team backwards to 2-14 and we can’t blame him for that?
January 5th, 2016 at 11:27 pm
Yeah DallasBuc Joes are fully accepting of less than mediocrity because they allow morons like you up here. You spout the same spittle as all the rest of your neo nazi sisters
January 6th, 2016 at 12:30 am
Jameis didn’t mean it when he was inadvertently, without knowledge or intent, slapping his head coach but meant what he said to his teammates. The game is lost and the season is over and he goes off about he don’t know “why” they come to work each day with this losing mentality and commenting about how other teammates not wanting it enough. Yea, that’s Lovies job..boy.
January 6th, 2016 at 12:58 am
this was my take yesterday…