“He’s One Of The Guys That I Think He’d Like Jameis To Say Less”
January 5th, 2016
A Bucs beat writer thinks Gerald McCoy wants Jameis Winston to talk less
Pipe down, Jameis Winston!
Relax your piehole once in a while, America’s Quarterback!
Those kinds of thoughts are swirling in Gerald McCoy’s head, according to Buccaneers beat writer Rick Stroud, of TampaBay.com.
During a discussion prompted today by WDAE-AM 620 co-host Tom Jones, Stroud shared his belief that Jameis is beloved in the Bucs’ locker room but McCoy is among players down on how Jameis gets the spotlight and thrives under it.
“He’s one of the guys that I think he’d like Jameis to say less,” Stroud said of McCoy.
Jones got the conversation going by stating, “I don’t want to stir up a hornets nest here, and it doesn’t take much with the people that are listening, I find it very interesting that Gerald McCoy didn’t talk [Monday]. That he was unavailable to talk to [media in] the locker room.”
Stroud had more to say on this subject, relaying what he believes was Sunday evidence of McCoy’s feelings toward the spotlight on Jameis — and off McCoy. Enjoy via the 620wdae.com player below.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Once again…..our Mr AKA so called team leader is acting like a little school girl again. ……..
……GMC just needs to go
GMC = OVERATED
January 5th, 2016 at 12:15 pm
trade this shmuck…injured all the time anyway…tired of his loser mentality…
January 5th, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Pure speculation…..How about the media put some words in the Glazer’s mouth or Licht or Lovie…..absolutely no cajones.
He might even be right…..but “I think”…..”I believe” just doesn’t cut it.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:19 pm
Was he not prepared for the day a quarterback would come in and be in the limelight? Did he somehow feel that being a Defensive Lineman would trump a star quarterback? Put his name aside, just the position of Quarterback is that kind of spot and I find it very odd that a professional football player wasn’t prepared for that to happen. My hope is that, if McCoy indeed does have an issue with Winston “stealing his thunder”, that he figures out a way to accept it as just a part of the game and the business that is football.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:22 pm
I think a few of us picked up GMC’s vibe towards Winston way back in TC.
If any player on this team needs to say a little less, it’s GMC and it’s not even close.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:23 pm
Does not matter what anyone thinks. Lovie has made the decision that he wants Jameis to be vocal. So even if it is true it is tough!
January 5th, 2016 at 12:23 pm
McCoy won’t be alone. The blow up to the media was childish. But let’s keep enabling it.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:25 pm
If he doesn’t like it he can leave. I’m hoping he asks to be traded, it would let the organization act as if their hand was forced, and then dump him on some other team headed for the basement where GMC can have some fun.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:25 pm
We gonna have fun, let’s go have fun, we gonna have fun, let’s go have fun.
Shut yer yapper, your play hasn’t matched your mouth over the past 2-3 seasons.
Jameis was a rookie so he gets a pass. GMC on the other hand….
If there’s one thing I won’t miss about this off-season it’s GMC personality and BS talk.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:25 pm
McCoy is fat and happy, going on his second huge contract….no longer hungry, just wants to play without getting hurt and get to the next year of the BIG, FAT contract…..
January 5th, 2016 at 12:27 pm
“Among Others”…….who exactly are the others Rick? Since you know what “swirls around in people’s head”
January 5th, 2016 at 12:27 pm
Or how about GMC stop crying and embrace Jameis attitude of playing the game not for “fun” but as your life depends on it as if you would give everything to play in the NFL to win the super bowl, not paint a red stripe in your head and tell everyone you are the leader, go out and do it, make a 20 yard run like it was alstott out there carrying the ball. How about GMC embrace jameis and his passion instead of being the punk that he is….GMC if he wasn;t such a punk would have been asking to get into the offense and catch a ball or block for #22, but no GMC whines like the little bish he is
January 5th, 2016 at 12:30 pm
GMC is such an appropriate acronym for McCoy.
If he was a little better he’d be a Cadillac, but in truth he’s pretty much indistinguishable from a Chevy.
(Car people will get it)
January 5th, 2016 at 12:32 pm
J…that’s why the majority of Bucs fans were VERY happy with the what Jameis said. I’m not talking just this site either. PR and BN as well.
Most of us loved what Jameis said. You on the other hand…well. Whatever. Hate all you want, why change anything up. He just tied his shoes the wrong way, can you bash him about that too. The hate runs deep and it’s obvious everytime you posted something about Jameis throughout the season.
Since your in the VERY small minority, it just makes you look like a clown.
Carry on with the hatred though.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:32 pm
Rick and Tom sound like they play DL for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:39 pm
Saw the Lyle Alzado interview where he said football was NOT fun, it was a war on the field between the players – not fun. Thats the mentality that we are missing. Hopefully No. 3 can bring back that mean axx attitude we used to have. Now everyone is yucking it up n the locker room right before the U-hauls peel out of the parking lot.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:40 pm
I’m waiting to hear any actual evidence of this. Where are his facts? I’ve never heard McCoy say anything but positive things about Jameis. He even invited him to his son’s birthday party. McCoy had a frustrating season battling a ton of injuries, and as a result he wasn’t as accommodating to the media as he has been in the past. If you listen to his radio interviews, he wasn’t his normal self. I don’t think it has anything to do with Jameis. If you can find any real evidence, I’d love to hear it. From what I’ve hearing now, this is pure nonsense with the aim of further smearing McCoy. And yet people wonder why he wouldn’t want to be available for the media???? Would you want to be accommodating for people trying to smear you?
January 5th, 2016 at 12:43 pm
“McCoy is fat and happy, going on his second huge contract….no longer hungry, just wants to play without getting hurt and get to the next year of the BIG, FAT contract….”
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Stupider words have NEVER been typed. How do you know he’s not hungry? Do you have any idea the injuries he played through? You couldn’t even type with a torn rotator, nor with a broken hand. However, McCoy played meaningless games with both (one on each side to make it worse). But yeah, he’s got no heart and he’s not hungry. Your stupidity is embarrassing.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:45 pm
Acts like a pu$$y on the field and in the locker room. He’s the true definition of a BIIITCH!…………… Don’t worry about him Jameis. You keep leading the way. The ones that don’t have what it takes will slowly weed themselves out. Beginning with his a$$$.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:49 pm
I like what Jameis said…..and agree with it and hope it continues….
Saying “lets have fun” isn’t bad….I bet they had fun in Philadelphia…..you have to play well and win to have fun…..nothing wrong with it at all.
I hope there isn’t tension between Jameis and GMC…….it would be very bad for the team…..and….of course GMC would lose.
We have many problems on our Defense and GMC isn’t one of them. Lets start adding Pro Bowl players, not getting rid of them.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:53 pm
That’s funny. I always kinda thought McCoy should say a little less after I hear him talking.
Remember how he has been telling anyone that would listen since he was drafted about the leader he is on this football team?
Think we are seeing the issues with this team crystallize in front of our eyes.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:54 pm
Trade him and stock up on draft picks. He’s probably at his peak and his perceived value is less than his actual value. Offload him and maximize your gain while you can.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:54 pm
Again, Jameis wasn’t talking about playing perfectly, or well. It’s about preparation/fight. It’s about the will to win and sustaining that for the whole season. So, when Stroud brings up that Jameis didn’t play well the last 4 games, he’s missing the point. Jameis called himself out first for not playing well and needing to get better. I believe he hit the “rookie wall,” but his will to win never wavered. This offseason will expose a clear line in the sand, on who buys in and who doesn’t.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:54 pm
Call me crazy or a blind optimist but I think when Jameis does his changing of the mentality, I think GMC will react positive about it. I’ve been just as angry at him as anybody else but I think GMC knows he aint cut out to lead an entire team and it will be a load off his chest and just make him better. I mean come on, we’re talking Jameis F*ckin Winston here. America’s Quarterback. Hell get through to GMC
January 5th, 2016 at 12:57 pm
Sorry his perceived value is more than his actual value
January 5th, 2016 at 12:57 pm
@ Hawaiian
Right…….Stroud speculates and everyone takes it as gospel…..could have even been a quote from GMC….”I think Winston ought to speak less”……amazing….
Losing creates scapegoats….I guess GMC gets it.
For those who call him soft…..I guess his competition doesn’t agree….they voted for him to be a Pro Bowler…….I value their opinion more than Ray Rice
January 5th, 2016 at 12:58 pm
You guys are incriminating the man based on absolutely no evidence at all. The whole season he’s never showed any animosity toward Jameis. They have two different leadership styles. Ones not better than the other. Gmc is more lead as example.. Jameis is more vocal. They love each other as brothers. U guys are ridiculous
January 5th, 2016 at 12:58 pm
First off my background as a former journalist just screams at me to acknowledge what TBBF and Hawaiian Buc.
They are both correct! This is Rick Stroud’s OPINION. He has a right to that opinion and a job that requires him to exercise that opinion on the radio. So I have no problem with Stroud or his OPINION.
I just can’t help but acknowledge what TBBF and Hawaiian are pointing out. Yes it is an opinion not a fact blog…although I give Joe lots of credit for trying to keep this place as journalistically honest as any other place these days…including major broadcast and cable media.
I think we need to separate these conversations and stop lumping everything together. IMHO…is GMC a terrific player…YES…is he a great leader NO.
Again though that’s just opinion. GMC is treading on thin ice though.
Just read this thread. There are a couple of JW haters still left but the vast majority of the posters here now love #3 and we WANT this to be HIS team.
He has shown most of us enough. GMC has not. It’s as simple as that.
And Chris Armstong has it right…#3 is the QB…#93 is a DT. GMC was only the “leader” because of a large absence of talent, and leadership across this team, and especially until this year at QB the position most normally considered when talking about team leaders. GMC never “earned” the mantle of leadership…he assumed it by default. Now we have a real leader whether GMC likes it or not.
January 5th, 2016 at 12:59 pm
I guess this is why the players chose their captains.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:00 pm
BTW.. Wasn’t it GMC this last off-season that said he’s sick of the losing mentality and we are going to start changing some things here to change that? Anyone remember his pressers from the beginning of the year?
January 5th, 2016 at 1:00 pm
GMC is likely the happiest Buc to have Jameis take over the leadership role…I doubt very seriously he has any disparaging thoughts about it…..and that’s what Stroud was speculating on….GMC’s thoughts…(and others, whoever they may be)
January 5th, 2016 at 1:02 pm
There is only one player on this team that I am absolutely sure “never quit and never gave up”. That’s Winston. I had plenty of criticism for him this year, but he’s one of about 5 players on this team I’d keep no matter what. All others, GMC included are expendable. GMC, healthy, is a very good DT, but hasn’t shown me greatness yet. I don’t want “Suh” nasty but at least “Sapp” nasty at DT. Selmon was a “nice” DE but he played like a beast and he was about the best in his era. GMC has a long way to go for that status.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:05 pm
My guess is McCoy is jealous of Winston’s legit Alpha Male leadership ability and he probably gets shown up in the showers too!
Name me three impact plays McCoy has made since being in the NFL!
We don’t need McCoy. If we could unload him for a 1st or 2nd Rd pick, I’d do it in a heart beat.
Siege this!
Go Sucs!
January 5th, 2016 at 1:14 pm
Some of you guys are incredible……lets trade GMC for a boatload of picks….if GMC is so bad….so soft….only wants to have fun….not a leader….why would any other team want to give up picks for him.
@St. Pete
You’re right….Stroud has a right to his opinions and it is certainly part of his job….my problem is that many JBF posters take his opinion and run with it as fact….condemning GMC without a shred of solid evidence.
This is merely a personality difference…..and immaturity….sometimes, I think JBF has been hijacked by a bunch of 12 year-olds.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Typical Bucs fans:
“We have maybe 4 or 5 guys on this team with actual legit talent, but let’s trade 1 of them because of a single reporters opinion!”
January 5th, 2016 at 1:28 pm
I heard a rumor that McCoy wanted Mariotta…. Badly. Him and Winston have had beef since training camp, I’m glad Winston called McCoy out as one of the guys who’s here just to get paid.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:28 pm
One thing is certain. This team has far deeper problems than any envy GMC might feel towards #3. That has already begun to work itself out…IF indeed GMC is envious. I do not know GMC so I do no know what he is thinking.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:29 pm
The fans have tuned McCoy out as a motivator. You have been usurped Gerald with a real motivator, now go sit in the corner with the dunce hat on.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:38 pm
NO WAY, are you kidding me. Let him talk all he wants, someone needs to step up in the huddle and in the locker room. It has never been GMC to take this role. He laughs, thinks its all fun out there. He has no monster in him to unleash when necessary like Winston, who “we need a nickname or something for tired of writing out his full name all of the time.” I think it is great that Winston is getting “his” guys pumped up. Just shut up and play GMC, play for your job in my opinion.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:41 pm
TBBF and SPBF….these reporters have locker room access and we don’t. I’ve seen the videos in the locker room and a few clips of the sideline. Whenever McCoy appears in one of those videos he just gives off terrible body language.
I noticed it mid-season and posted about on JBF. I’ve always considered myself an expert at reading peoples faces. That’s what I saw, so I mentioned it on here. Again these reporters have access to the locker room. Perhaps they see the same thing I saw mid-season, only they see it more often.
I hinted towards it weeks and weeks ago. I was scoffed at by a few in here, and now there’s this story from Stroud. So I believe Stroud. Don’t believe us, go find some of those locker room pictures and videos of McCoy. Look again. There’s something there for sure, not just speculation.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:45 pm
Lovie should be humming the Beatles hit “come together,right now, over me.”
January 5th, 2016 at 1:48 pm
I’ve defended McCoy in the past but maybe I was wrong.
Let Howard make a brief analogy:
The new high-strung guy gets hired by a slacker company.
The slacker company has slacker employees who enjoy
the slack environment. So, in comes the new guy with all his big
dreams of winning and completely pisses off the slackers.
Winning takes too much work, right?
Why beat yourself up over a loss, you’ve got to enjoy life.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
Can’t remember who the poster was that told me pre-draft that Winston has no leadership skills what-so ever.
I almost fell out of desk chair.
My response was well then you either haven’t watched him play, or you’re as blind as Mr. Magoo. I said Winston is dripping with leadership skills, it’s one of his strongest attributes. This kid won’t quit on us Bucs fans. He wants to mentioned in the same breath as the greats. He will improve and he will dominate the NFL someday. I bet he’s looking over game film as I type.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:53 pm
For the record, I wanted Suh.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Stroud on his radio program said there was 1 camera and a writer I can’t remember his name, and a few others still in the locker room with Gerald after most had left for Lovies presser. Jameis was to go out next and that is when McCoy got all bitch like and said, hurry up , the quarterback is out there, hurry up the quarterback is out there to the remaining people in the locker room.
January 5th, 2016 at 1:55 pm
Why does JOE publish purely speculative nonsense like this. Oh right….to get “hits”. I like Rick Stroud…but really.
Sir, Joe publishes this because it’s interesting, primarily because it was broadcast to tens of thousands on the Buccaneers flagship radio station, as spoken by a couple of sportswriters with roughly 50 years experience in the Tampa Bay market. Joe writes about what’s interesting. It’s what Joe does. –Joe
January 5th, 2016 at 2:02 pm
Man I’m sorry I’ve been terrible with these 2 letter words lately. I always leave out words like “to”, “is”, and “or”. Can’t blame the antibiotics and I’m not taking any pain meds. I’ll try to proof-read my posts from now on or at least slow my fingers down.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:05 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo can read minds…and Pablo thinks it was Stroud that Pablo saw as Pablo was table dancing for 87 & the Realist……87 is a big tipper….the Realist is cheap….anyway….Pablo “thinks….believes” the Stroud wanted a piece of Pablo’s elongated arc……Pablo & Hams both have that condition…..Pablo loves Hamus”
January 5th, 2016 at 2:07 pm
Great take St. Pete! I’d like to add to it if you don’t mind. The significance of Stroud’s opinion is that it is an informed one. As a journalist covering the team he is constantly observing the players in a variety of contexts, and perhaps more importantly, he is developing personal relationships with many of them. Relationships that yield important insights, both on and off the record, that ultimately inform Stroud’s analysis, and in this case, his opinion. As a consumer of his opinions and analysis I ascribe credibility to what he says about GMC and Jameis.
What I cannot do is accurately guess what GMC is thinking. What I can do is hope that he and Jameis work things out. GMC is a perennial Pro Bowler. The team needs him to play well for it to win. He can lead by example. But he cannot undermine Jameis’s leadership. If that happens he will have to go.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:10 pm
@87
“SAMCRO Says:
April 11th, 2015 at 7:22 am
Being loud and boisterous to the point of being obnoxious doesn’t make one a leader. Are you telling me that Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, or Russell Wilson are like that? The one that comes to mind who acts like that, is Cam Newton, who hasn’t set the world on fire, and has a tendency to piss off his teammates with his childish antics sometimes. I get the fact you would love to sniff Winston’s jock strap, but to say the only way to be a leader is if you’re vocally obnoxious is BS.”
and, a bonus post from the same thread:
“Supersam Says:
April 11th, 2015 at 10:20 am
The bucs are fixing to make a huge mistake, and it’s gonna cost Lovie and Licht there jobs. This kid is very very immature. Can’t wait to see how he acts once he gets his money and fame. Hope all you are happy, your about to get what’s coming to you.”
January 5th, 2016 at 2:10 pm
lol Pablo…yes I am and there’s more where that came from. Just keep wearing that g-string and the money will continue to drop on the table.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:13 pm
87
Certainly take your point. I think bucfan37 has it right. All that has happened is that GMC has lost his position as the teams spokesman/motivator. He’ll get over it.
But I do take your point. If nothing else GMC needs to hire a PR flak to help him with his comments…especially when it concerns the player EVERYBODY from management to players to fans are looking to save this franchise.
GMC you had your turn. You not only did not save the franchise the team has sucked during your tenure as “leader”. I can guarantee everybody here the love affair with #3…and right now I’m completely smitten…will not last as long as GMC’s current career if #3’s teams put up the same win numbers as GMC’s.
At the end of the day all the talk will be meaningless. I held back on my enthusiams for #3 at the beginning of the year out of simple reality, He was a rookie and he needed to earn our trust on the field. I think he did that.
But he must improve and I believe he will because he’s a winner. If he doesn’t…then he’ll join the Lovie/GMC hate. Sad but true…even if you’re a nice guy and a swell human if you don’t win in the NFL you don’t last.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:20 pm
@1987,
I would agree GMC’s body language has been different this year, particularly as the year has progressed. However, why do you draw the conclusion it has anything to do with Jameis? Again, why did he invite him to his son’s birthday party if he hates him so much? Maybe his body language has more to do with the fact that his body is in so much pain. I’ve seen him after the games grimacing from signing autographs! I want you or anyone else to be in a cheerful mood when you can’t lift your arm to sign your name. Who is to say it doesn’t have something to do with whatever medication he is taking? Again, if you can give me any concrete evidence they have a beef that’s one thing, but you can’t. Reading body language doesn’t mean anything if you don’t know what’s really going on. And no, a reporter isn’t going to know that.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:36 pm
“I don’t want to stir up a hornets nest here, and it doesn’t take much with the people that are listening,… ”
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But he goes ahead and says it anyways… I do believe something is up with McCoy but just that one statement alone tells me this guy is just trying to start sh!t.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:43 pm
LMAO! I knew Jaboo’s schtick would wear thin in the locker room. Got a feeling a lot of the fellas in there aren’t nearly as impressed with #3 as Joe, 87, and the rest of the FSU Honk Nation is.
America’s Garbage Time QB
January 5th, 2016 at 2:44 pm
Hawaiian Buc…lol you’re not going to get a debate with me. I actually didn’t really mention GMC not liking Jameis in my original post weeks and weeks ago. I just picked up on the faces he made. I thought he didn’t like Lovie actually. Now that Stroud has come out and made mention of what he perceives GMC thinks about Jameis. I just coupled that with what Joe said back in training camp about MCCoy pretty much saying Jamies is a rookie and needs to learn his place.
Then there’s what CC said above me. It’s okay if he feels that way anyways. Like SPBF said he’ll get over it, because he has to.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:45 pm
I’m certainly not one of those trade GMC fans out there. I would never say that.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:46 pm
Rick Stroud… You don’t want to stir up a hornets nest? The easiest way to do that is reporting on facts instead of pure speculation. No sir, what you want to do is precisely stir up a hornets nest. Don’t lie about it. Many of the JBF posters want to hate on McCoy. That is, of course, until McCoy is gone and they will be talking about how we have no presence up the middle on the D Line. I’ve been on record supporting McCoy. I get frustrated just like the next guy when I don’t see him coming through in big situations but I’ll reserve that judgement until we put competent bodies on the outside of him. McCoy was seen as such a stud last year despite us losing and now he is the goat of many posters despite putting up virtually the exact same stat line.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:48 pm
lightningbuc = In the minority of fans
January 5th, 2016 at 2:53 pm
It’s not GMC’s play or his toughness that concerns me. I’ve had a torn rotator cuff and I couldn’t get a gallon of milk out of the refrigerator, much less play professional football. It’s his lack of visible leadership and his apparent willingness to accept losing that bothers me.
He’d be a great fit as an individual contributor for a team with a strong coaching staff and outstanding team leaders around him, but he’s not a strong leader or a winner.
January 5th, 2016 at 2:56 pm
lightningbuc…Newsflash : Your point is moot when you use the r word and Winston one day. Then the next come on here talking about his mentality and fire as being a bad thing.
It makes you look like an ass is what it does. Someone who still holds a grudge over the kid for something he did or did not do in college pretty much as no ground to speak about his play or his words. Their opinion is immediately biased.
Go to PR and Buc Nation for a bit and read the comments of fans after what Winston said at the podium about some players laying down on certain plays and games. 99% of them are happy with what he said and felt he needed to say something like that. Lovie Smith included.
Tom Brady yells at his WR’s too. So does Manning as well. This is nothing new what Jameis did. It’s called passion and fire for the game. In fact I don’t think he’s been vocal enough, but that will come in due time. You better get used to it, you’ll be hearing from him for the next decade,
January 5th, 2016 at 3:01 pm
I bet if it came down to a vote as to who should stay on the team Winston or McCoy. McCoy would lose hands down. Not just a fan vote, but teammates as well.
It has been said many times by national media and local media that the kid has an infectious personality that people like to follow.
But that’s a bad thing in SOME small minority of fans heads. We all know why they think that way too. He’s guilty, so he sucks.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:02 pm
Ain’t no love in the heart of the city
Ain’t no love in the heart of town
Ain’t no love and it’s sure nuff a pity
Ain’t no love cause GMC ain’t around
January 5th, 2016 at 3:04 pm
OK….let’s settle the debate….
Can we all agree…
Jameis is now the leader (like him or not)
GMC is at least a good player
No one really knows exactly what’s in GMC’s head (including Stroud)
Jameis & GMC (if there’s a problem) will work it out….If not GMC will be gone
Pablo is a very nice man
January 5th, 2016 at 3:06 pm
News flash, Gerold McCoy didn’t say anything. Tom Jones simply made a statement that it was very interesting that McCoy was “unavailable to talk to the media in the locker room and that he did not talk on Monday”. Rick Stroud then said “He’s one of the guys that I think he’d like Jameis to say less,” Think is the key word here. It’s all conjecture. An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information and speculation. Then Joe writes it up and next thing we hear from people on this site is that McCoy has an attitude and is anti-Jameis. This has nothing to do with GMC and everything to do with Jameis. After a loss, on the last game of the season the guy who himself played like trash and has the last four games starts to call people out. If he won’t name names he should not call people out. Now everyone thinks its about GMC. I bet money if you ask Jameis is it about McCoy he would say “no”. Stephen White said t best “he can’t remember another good QB saying anything close to what Jameis said”. “Id rather you lead by playing well anyway”.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:09 pm
When teammates and coaches rave about JW. These idiots(trolls) never show up and acknowledge what was said. I guess it’s just easier to block it out, because afterall he’s guilty of sexual assault so all of that can’t be true. He has to be an a-hole like they think.
Even though he’s NOTHING like they thought in the first place…grasping at straws is what it’s called. They’ll see something like this and go see I told you so. Forgetting that this vs the 100’s of positive things said about him is far is a big deal. Foolishness.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Shyte I’ve been blaming Stroud. My apologies Rick. Tom Jones is the scumbag of the Tampa media imo.
“Jones got the conversation going by stating, “I don’t want to stir up a hornets nest here, and it doesn’t take much with the people that are listening, I find it very interesting that Gerald McCoy didn’t talk [Monday]. That he was unavailable to talk to [media in] the locker room.”
That’s classic Tom Jones. Not really a Buc fan. More of a Buc hater if you’ve ever read his columns. I used to read his columns until it became clear that he had an agenda and that’s to tear down the team no matter who the coach or players was at the time. He’s always been like that. If his points were valid I would have continued reading his opinion everyday,but they weren’t and many times he says stuff out of left field that makes no sense at all. Now I get who started all this. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone told me that Jones pitched in money for the Fire Schiano billboard.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:20 pm
godzilla13…the first person Jameis called out was himself. Then on Monday he did so again, blaming himself first. Actually he went into detail on Monday about what he did wrong.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:25 pm
So far….we’ve now learned…
ASJ is perhaps a bust
Jameis & GMC are feuding
Moore won’t return as CB
Lovie says…..in other words….fans…you’ll have to just suck it up because me and my Sons are here for at least another year so…..JUMA
It’s a great off season so far
January 5th, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Steve White may not remember a “good” QB saying something like that, but I’ll bet my house that if Tom Brady or Peyton Manning said something like that, no one would think that THEY were the problem.
Winston was just stating what we all saw. All season long and some of you have a problem with it. The stuff YOU yourself would like to say to the players. The stuff we scream at our TV’s about. This stuff JW noticed as well. So what’s he supposed to do? Not speak his mind and let it eat at him? No and you better get used to him, because he’s going to pull the weeds out. As we all know there’s lots of them too.
I don’t fault a 21 year old rookie QB for anything. I knew he was going to have an up and down season. Apparently some of you expected more.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:32 pm
“lightningbuc Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 2:43 pm
LMAO! I knew Jaboo’s schtick would wear thin in the locker room. Got a feeling a lot of the fellas in there aren’t nearly as impressed with #3 as Joe, 87, and the rest of the FSU Honk Nation is.
America’s Garbage Time QB”
Good to see you are still bitter. It makes me laugh. Jameis will be here and successful for years to come. I hope it pisses you off the entire time.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:35 pm
TBBF….lol we’ve also learned that Buc1987 will always be Winston’s JBF PR manager-slash defense lawyer pro-bono.
January 5th, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Not sure why you’re still wasting your time talking to people who are clearly closed minded when it comes to Jameis. These are the same people who had an issue with Jameis coming in stating he wanted and thought he could win a super bowl. The horror!!
January 5th, 2016 at 3:41 pm
And certainly can’t forget how awful he is for wanting to stay home for the draft so he could spend one of the most special moments of his life with his grandmother. What a arse!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 3:49 pm
Winston will do nothing but get better and better…..when his completion percentage rises from 55-65%…..we will have an unstoppable offense.
I know we need to concentrate on defense….but part of me wants to feed that hungry offense…..let’s pick up the best WR we can….I am certain that most would love to be part of our corps.
We can add a 6[10 508 pound Olimenan also
January 5th, 2016 at 3:51 pm
Gmc can either buy in or get out, and I would love for him to buy. He has talent. But he is not the type to lead, like Sapp did. We could utilize his pass rushing abilities but it stops there. Stop discouraging players like Jameis who brings fire to the team. We need players that bring a certain demeanor, ready to knock opponents out. Mccoy has talent, but his lax disposition, and trying to muzzle those who dont share that stance, should earn him being traded. When I said no one on this defense should feel content with an automatic roster spot, Gmc was no exception. And Lovie better not feel content either. #playoffsorfired
January 5th, 2016 at 3:55 pm
You’re on fire today TBBF! And I totally agree with your ultimate conclusion.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:02 pm
Couch…my name was brought up in ignorance and I have plenty of free time on my hands in case you haven’t noticed.lol
January 5th, 2016 at 4:05 pm
I have never trusted a gum smiler and this just proves my point again. Gum smilers are the gingivitis of society. Licht needs to use some mouth was to rid us of the excessive gums
January 5th, 2016 at 4:08 pm
TBBF…I floated the notion of drafting a WR in the 1st round…not sure though. I guess I’d be happy if they went either way. Focus on the D in the draft and perhaps focus on the O via FA. I tend to believe that many defensive FA’s that move from one team to another don’t measure up to their past success, because of the system they were in or the players they played with. I don’t know I could be wrong, but offensive playmakers tend to like to shine. So that’s why I’d get young studs for the D in the draft and go after vets for the O in FA. I could be wrong with this thinking. Perhaps it works either way when it comes to FA’s.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:17 pm
Drafting a WR in the first round should get Lovie and Licht fired on the spot. People love to keep bringing up the Steelers, well, their 3 starting WRs are a 6th rounder, a 4th rounder and a 3rd rounder. So, so many bigger needs than WR. We need at least 6 new starters on defense for Christ sakes.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:27 pm
No way…87 on WR in draft.
This team needs to pick DE and then DE again. The whole principle of Tampa2 is to have pressure from up front and edges. The up front pressure is what creates everything else like turnovers. I still like Banks, Verner, and Moore…I would look to replace the rest of the backfield in rounds 4-6 and FA. We can address the offense in free agency too as the needs are not as great.
On GMC, he did play really hurt torn cuff and small plate in his hand was installed around week 11. For this, I will give him a small pass. However, I think Mr Stroud is giving hints without telling us everything he knows…keep that in mind when you read JBF..cuz sometimes the media guys can say just a little not the whole thing or they could lose their info connection so they protect that first. Dont bite the hand that feeds u. I revert back to the video evidence from 6 weeks ago from the pregame when JW was firing up the team and #93 was in the background- non interested and acting a bitch. This is really why I believe there is more truth to the story than they can say. That video spoke volumes to me. The good news….this stuff can be fixed…I think GMC is suffering from weak mental strength (fun?) and he has taken JWs rise on this team as a threat to his leaderhisp role, which is a maturity thing. He simply doesnt want to share the leadership role. Lovie can fix this by putting the C on JW jerseys next year. If GMC, continues this path of bitchdom then take his C and tell him he needs to earn it back. Lovie will never do that but it would be impactful. I think LVD/Kwon are better leaders than GMC.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:36 pm
DE has to be priority one, with CB a close second. I don’t think a WR will be taken before round four. Free agent WR’s will be eager to paly in Tampa.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:44 pm
I have never advocated drafting a WR….I think it is safer to get a proven WR in FA…..we have the money…..
Our draft should be DE, CB, S, CB…..round depends on players available at the time…
I would rather see us trade our Glennon pick….and rounds 5,6 & 6 to move up…..to get 4 very good defensive starters……we don’t need any projects.
If we can get a WR with speed, I would like to see a WR/PR/KR combo.
Also, I would like an upgrade at FB….someone who can run and catch also…like a Tolbert.
We have the picks and the money to get this done.
January 5th, 2016 at 4:49 pm
Yah like said it’s not written in stone if I was the GM, but I certainly want a burner with speed in this offensive heavy league. Mike’s too slow. Perhaps Kenny Bell or Murphy is what I’m looking for. Mike’s a big boy so he can catch passes over the middle. I want someone that can take the top off the D.
I’m okay going defense, even though I was told the other day that it’s not a DE heavy draft this year. So go DB perhaps? He better be a stud if that’s the case Morris Claiborne was drafted in the 1st and well. Safety? Is their a worthy safety in this draft?
January 5th, 2016 at 4:55 pm
Funny how a rookie in a 4 game slump when it counted most is a leader. Forget the talk score more than 10 points and throw an accurate ball every now and then. Last year with McCoy leading the team we were a losing team, thus year with Winston as your leader we are a losing team with a much easier schedule and a top notch running game. The main difference is our defense as a whole hasn’t received the attention in the draft or free agency that the offense has got in the two years Lovie has been here. Bottom line is we don’t have half the talent on defense that the offense has. Hard to win with retreads and undrafted players. I honestly believe Glennon would gave got the same or better results in the win column. You people give Winston way too much credit. Lastly if Winston us our leader he led our team to a losing season, which makes him a loser as well. Wasn’t he supposed to change the mentality, wasn’t he supposed to be the savior?
You can talk and be the best rah rah guy all you want but the record speaks for itself. Let that marinate in your brains semin-a-holes!
January 5th, 2016 at 4:57 pm
I agree Winston needs a real WR threat to really cement our offense. And I love the above comment about our need for an upgrade for a return man.
I like to think we draft best players available rather then need especially since we have so many needs. I do think drafting a WR in round 1 would be silly since there is a lot of talent deep into this draft class.
Not sure which other free-agent WR are out there but would be estatic if we could get Alshon Jeffery.
Don’t trade Glennon though, backups are too important IMO. Also, get a freaking kicker please!!!!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Jamarcus-If you don’t see a ton of talent when you watch Winston then you just do not know football my friend.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:14 pm
And thats the difference between a winner and a loser. Losers kicked back just having fun collecting those millions….they dont care much. Winners, it doesnt matter how much they’re making, they want to win the game!!
January 5th, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Rookie QB’s don’t typically dominate the league. Especially ones that were drafted to a team like Lovie Smith’s Bucs. People that were expecting more this season are obviously morons imo.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:16 pm
I’d like to see us keep Barth….perhaps we can find a punter who can do kickoffs…..
Believe it or not….>Brindza can punt…..not saying sign him…but would give him a workout.
We would be better served with an extra kicker….keep Barth for accuracy…..
Don’t think we need to carry 3 QBs….I am assuming that we did that this year to develop a backup for Jameis if Glennon is traded….if not, we wasted a roster spot all year.
Humphries can do returns….I hope we find a place for that kid…I really like him and so does Jameis.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:22 pm
@JaMarcus Leafwhich Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 4:55 pm
BBBWHHAHAHAHWWAHHHAWAHHHHHWHAAAAAHHHHWWWAAA!!!!
Dude, even you don’t believe yourself as you typed that. We are all collectively dumber having read that drivel.
And, I saw your sad FSU dig.
SCOREBOARD. Suck it hater.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:29 pm
TBBF…I’d put the 6 ft 5 256 pound Brate in the slot rather than TE. Then again this is real life and not Madden, but I think he’d flourish.
January 5th, 2016 at 5:31 pm
FSU 27…. UF 2. Minus Jameis…
January 5th, 2016 at 6:00 pm
Some of these posters are either 12 years old or have the mind of one…..it makes no difference…..JBF has been hijacked…
And…if your are bothered by this post….well….I hope Mommy has cooked you a nice dinner!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 6:06 pm
Seriously, some of you guys need to stop putting your alma mater before the Bucs. This is Joe BUCS fan, not Joe Gators fan.
January 5th, 2016 at 6:25 pm
87 the bucs need to go out and get jameis security blanket oleary, not sure why they didnt before maybe because of ASJ and that investment but Oleary would help out because he is a) good and b) reliable…i am not an FSU honk but want the bucs do succeed but without lovie…im just pissed we are wasting another year on his bs
January 5th, 2016 at 6:47 pm
OMG…you people are dense.
“He’s one of the guys that I (Stroud) think he’d like Jameis to say less,” Stroud said of McCoy.
Jones got the conversation going by stating, “I don’t want to stir up a hornets nest here, and it doesn’t take much with the people that are listening, I (Jones) find it very interesting that Gerald McCoy didn’t talk [Monday]. That he was unavailable to talk to [media in] the locker room.”
Both Stroud and Jones are totally making this up. “I don’t want to stir up…” BULLSPIT!!!!
They are NOT quoting McCoy. They are stating theories because Gerald was not available to talk to the media????????? Talk about having no class. And you trolls soak it right up.
January 5th, 2016 at 6:48 pm
Key Words:
Stroud: “I think”
Jones: “I find it interesting…”
January 5th, 2016 at 6:58 pm
@ Bonzai
That’s the point I’ve been trying to make….it’s pure speculation….or perhaps even a guess….It may be base on a number of experiences the reporter has witnessed….and it “may” have some merit….but it is definitely not a fact…..it seems GMC detractors don’t need much to run with.
I, for one, will give most the benefit of the doubt before I convict.
How about someone asking Jameis and McCoy what they think of each other.
January 5th, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Oh and pre-draft he was very against drafting Winston. I know this because my wife told me so. I won’t read the guy anymore like I said.
January 5th, 2016 at 7:14 pm
Oh boy. I’m awaiting moderation. Is it a 620 WDAE thing Joe?
January 5th, 2016 at 7:16 pm
Elle….. I do put it aside, but if someone brings it up or mentions my name, I jump.
January 5th, 2016 at 7:29 pm
We will suck next year. Teams will adjust to our offense better now that they have more tape on Jameis. Also the defense will continue to get destroyed because there’s no way we can find enough talent to makeup for lovies crap scheme.
January 5th, 2016 at 7:40 pm
Bucs ceiling is 6 wins next year if you look at that schedule obejctively
January 5th, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Bucs fan #7423 Says:
January 5th, 2016 at 7:29 pm
We will suck next year. Teams will adjust to our offense better now that they have more tape on Jameis. Also the defense will continue to get destroyed because there’s no way we can find enough talent to makeup for lovies crap scheme.
Thanks so much for your encouraging words…Realist….I know that’s you using another moniker…..
January 5th, 2016 at 8:39 pm
It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
Find some joy JBFers!
January 5th, 2016 at 8:44 pm
@tampabaybucfan
I have never used another screen name! Ever!!!
And some you maybe should hear the audio first!!!
Also, I wish the 7 time banned and great Thomas2.2 was still with us!!!!!
January 5th, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Wow these comments went to 0 to 100 real quick. Look guys, I’m on the Gmc other being cut or traded bandwagon because he and his contract is expendable. Especially when he watched aaron donald dominant his turn on the field and Gmc didn’t equal his intensity. Gmc has 100 million reason to be cut. But the beef w Jameis is so invalid that ppl speculate it. Jameis spoke on frustration and called put his team mates. Simple as that. I wouldve too.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:18 pm
Look at the guys we have gotten rid of and what they’ve done with other teams: Revis, Blount, Talib, Bennett, Zuttah. You can even name guys like Leonard Johnson, Ted Larsen, Mason Foster, and Dashon Goldson. Most of those guys are better than the guys they were replaced with, and with most it’s not even close. You don’t think we’d be better with Revis, Talib, and Michael Bennett on this defense? Every single guy I listed had multiple JBF posters wanting us to get rid of them. Look how it worked out. We got picks for some of those guys too. What have we gotten in return for those picks? So now we’ve got people wanting to get rid of one of our best players???!!! WTF people, when exactly are you going to learn? How many times is the same thing going to have to happen before you figure it out. Yeah, let’s trade GMC and see how that will work out. Let’s cut Vincent Jackson because he makes too much money. Let’s not break the bank for Doug Martin. All of these moves are idiot moves, but the scary part is I don’t put it past our organization to do just that. That right there is the problem. And of course when GMC, Banks, Verner, Martin, and Jackson have pro-bowl type years next year and we suck again, everyone will be on the same trip with the new guys. Here’s an idea – how about we work with the guys that are talented and build our scheme around their abilities. You ever heard of Bill Bellicheck looking for a specific type player that fits his scheme? No, because he works his scheme around his players. But you guys continue wanting to trade everyone because you think you know best. Let’s see how it all works out.
January 5th, 2016 at 9:47 pm
I don’t really care what McCoy thinks about Winston’s style or leadership skills. Seems a like a little bit of jealous resentment but who knows. With McCoy what bothers me is what he does and doesn’t do on the field and ultimately how it impacts his leadership role on this team. The guy just disappears on the football field for a half or 3 quarters or whole games at a stretch. Often the only reason you know he is still playing is when he gets called for jumping the snap count. This isn’t a 2015 phenomenon. Been like this his whole career. Fans like me don’t expect Warren Sapp. We just expect a more consistently dominant player and when you cannot be that you tend to lose credibility as a leader.
January 5th, 2016 at 10:46 pm
What the heck kind of journalism is this? One journalist writes about what another journalist feels what a player could be thinking? Stick to the facts joe. Let the readers fill in the blanks.
January 5th, 2016 at 10:57 pm
Excellent point Hawaiian buc. All these idiot posters want to bring up “so and so, and look he’s starting for that team!” “Omg our coaching sucks!” But then they want us to not resign martin, cut jackson, trade mccoy, cut verner, cut ASJ. It is hilarious how people will complain and trash players when they are on the team, but when they are gone. Those same people are sickened that those players are doing well somewhere else. Bucs fans will complain about anything. Granted there has been a lot of legitimate things to complain about the past decade. You will never hear me gripe about former bucs doing well somewhere else. For those players to not be here means they didnt fit, for whatever reason that may be. The last few years everyone btched and complained about mark baron. We trade him and everyone celebrates. He has a little success and bucs fans scream that we shouldn’t have gotten rid of him.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:09 pm
Trubucfan22…I as well. I challenge anyone to find me ever complaining about how good a former Buc is doing for another team. I could have easily done it with Bennett comes to mind as the latest debacle, and he had decent numbers with the Bucs. I even refrained from that I believe.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Worst show on that station, hands down. TJ can take his pirogie shovelin arse back to Pittsburgh and RS, listenig to that guy talk….zzzzzz
This defense needs stability and Hawaian brings up so many good points. Trading Gmc is far from ideal, we need all of the talent we can collect. But I still stand by what I said earlier, Mccoy needs to take a look in the mirror. Him being a “leader” hasnt gotten us anywhere and tbe whole team should follow Jameis’ lead, with the fire and passion he brings, and I hope Gmc and Jameis ate on the same page, cause we could use his pass rushing abilities.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:15 pm
There can and should be more than one leader on a team. There should be several. As for whose team it is, if all goes well, it’s going to be Jameis’s team. Mccoy has said so himself. However, that doesn’t mean others can’t lead as well.
January 5th, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Other than Revis, I can live with everyone else who walked, oh and Zuttah. But look at penn. His last cpl years here, he gave us spit. He played slow and even looked uninterested at times. Now he looks decent in Oakland, but it probably would have been more of the same had we kept him and the change of scenery seems to have motivated him. But both Penn and Davin Joseph (one of B Allens rare draft picks that turned out really good) were over paid and under performing.
Then there is Michael Bennett. Sure we could have used him, but people act like we let Reggie freaking White walk. Bennett is pretty good but I wouldnt call him elite, and its not farfetched to say he benefits from the best secondary in football.
And Aquib Talib, I loved watching him and Tanard Jackson, they struck a little fear in opposing offenses. And Talib has bern great, but here, he couldnt keep his nose cleab and it sucks, but while in Tampa, he just didnt seem to care. He would likely be out of football had we not traded him. He didnt give a spit about Tampa. And its the perfect example of our problem. Players just dont care. No matter who the head coach is, the players dont care, and the hc is fired and we hire a new one, same resilt. THATS OUR PROBLEM! It goes do much deeper than coaching, with Raheem, Schiano and Lovie. There is a core problem that the players simply could care less about their own team, and its going to continue if something dosent change. And I hope with rverything I got that players like Jameis and Kwon are the begining of the end of this trend!
January 5th, 2016 at 11:43 pm
Aww GMC got his widdle feewings hurt… Poor baby, somebody get him a pacifier and a walk bottle of milk so he can go night night
January 6th, 2016 at 5:20 am
This is all made up opinion not coming from mccoy’s mouth. This is how media stirs things up to sell attention. I like stroud but this is misinformation unless you have heard him say or someone mention he said at least. McCoy raves about Winston when camp started.
I like Winston more and more especially when he says players to come to play.