Stop Calling For Lovie’s Head
December 27th, 2015Feel free to scream till you can’t breathe. Joe gets the frustration, but Lovie Smith is not getting fired in eight days, nor should he be fired.
This is not Joe praising the head coach who has guided a horrific three-game collapse, culminating in today’s loss to the miserable Bears.
Joe is merely dealing in reality. Lovie’s team improved significantly this season. He handled and developed America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, beautifully. (Don’t pretend he didn’t.) And Lovie will be returning no matter how loudly you moan.
But Lovie’s December meltdown has stacked a whole bunch of firewood under his buttocks for 2016. And he’s earned it.
Don’t think Lovie will be on a hot seat in 2016? Tomorrow, Joe will share a key Bucs official talking publicly about playoff expectations for next year.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Pathetically low standards Joe. You banged the table for Jameis because Glennon wasn’t good enough. We have at the very best the Glennon of head coaches. Todd Bowles going to the playoffs. Mike Zimmer and Bill O’Brien too. Lovie sucks and you don’t wanna do better Joe? Come on.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Yea so all you haters can go suck it. LOVIE IS THE COACH.
cry and moan all you want but guess what! LOVIE is the coach.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
Bunch of cry babies
December 27th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Hooray Tampa Media!
No Accountability to roast Lovie!
Hooray Tampa Media!
Lovie gets a pass
Hooray Tampa Media
You also kiss Dom’s azz
Hooray Tampa Media!
Looking forward to Lovie coaching this team in 2016
Hooray Tampa Media!
You ran off Schiano, whose superior to Lovie
Hooray Tampa Media
Can’t wait to hear all week about how it is not Lovie’s fault
Hooray Tampa Media!
Count your sheep!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
I use to love you Joe, i guess you are taking a page out of the Big Duck’s (dog) page now, suck up to the Buc’s
This guy is horrible and who in the heck can’t improve on 2-14, really, did you really say that? I am done.
LOVIE MUST GO !!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
LOL @ The Kevin,
Thanks for the laugh. Your delusion about this team is right on fuking point today, Buck!
This team is absolute garbage, please explain why Lovie deserves a third year?
Coach Greg Schiano is superior to this azz clown!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Im not going to call for his head. We all know licht said playoffs are an expectation next year…but you know…this losing streak has been pretty bad…
December 27th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
This game was Classic Lovie…
GO BUCS!!!!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
Final 2 year total wins for Lovie Smith IS going to be ONLY 8 wins to Schiano’s 11 wins and Joe wanted Schiano out of here in the worst way. Yet today he defends this guy. SMH Joe.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
@Joe
Well you and the sheep can give love a parade down dale mabrey for having a 6 win season!!! Cause that is how ridiculous all of you sound cerebrating a 6 win season!!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Lovie is inevitably going to get fired. Might not be this offseason but its going to happen because he simply is not a good enough coach. It’s painfully obvious to see. And if you know its coming then there is nothing wrong with wanting to get it over with now instead of wasting more time. Jameis will be superstar but will be hampered by a horrific D-fense and Defensive HC. In 2 seasons this D-fense has not improved, not 1 single bit. I see nothing that suggests Lovie is capable of drafting “his guys” and then coaching them up to be any better than what we already have.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Fire Lovie. Hire McDermott with the provision Dirk stays
December 27th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Oh, I CANT WAIT for LOVIE BALL 2016!!! How many other ways can we lose???? STAY TUNED!!!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Joe you say tripling your win total is good. That’s all fine and dandy, but did we triple Schiano’s win total from 4-12? The team went backwards as far as records go.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
This is the most inconsistent and undisciplined team I’ve ever seen.
The biggest question mark going in (Rookie QB) has turned out to be the only bright spot, and Lovie had next to nothing to do with that.
HIS defense in year two has regressed and that’s shocking considering how bad they were last year.
Lovie sucks and so will the Sucs next year. He’ll get year 3 and then be fired.
I have ZERO confidence in this loser and our beloved team has and will continue to remain a laughing stock.
Siege my ****!
Go Sucs!
F***ing losers!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
I wonder why Joe was so eager to call for Schiano’s head and he was dealing with significantly more issues that were out of his control. Schiano also had to deal with a rookie QB who was NOT groomed to start from day 1. Is Joe a hypocrite? Thats an interesting question…
December 27th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Please for Lovie. He sucks.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
No, Lovie’s team has discipline and HIS defense( after all he has taken over the play calling) is a mess. I know Licht has made some damn good picks in the draft, and found some good players on the street. Team Glazier made the BIG mistake by giving Lovie the job BEFORE the GM came on. Licht is the guy here who needs to make those calls. Sorry Joe, we know Team Glazier will not let Lovie go, but he is a big reason why this team fell apart after 6-6
December 27th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Fire autocorrect.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
I’m back to the moan I felt when the hiring of Lovie was announced. Whatever it is, Lovie don’t have it.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
This site is so hypocritical.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Realist…I highly agree with you.
He comes up with these silly analogies all the time. “Well they tripled their win total from last season.” That’s not progress Joe when the team went backwards from Schiano last season from 4-12 to 2-14.
Silly analogies.
Props to you Couch you hit the nail on the head too.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Again two fumbles by our “pro bowl” back a missed field goal, Jameis making a horrible throw and Gerald McCoy always getting hurt and becoming useless is Lovie fault how again?
December 27th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Hey! Lay Off of Lovie guys!!! He’s “on the verge”!!! Simple As That!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Only reason Joe don’t want Lovie fired is because a new coach might come in and bench his precious Overrated turnover prone WinstonPooPoo.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
This has nothing to do with Schiavone and I was not against him but when you start over comparing regimes is pointless.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
Lovie doubled Schiano’s 4 win second season. Too bad it took TWO seasons…
December 27th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
StephGrable…we’re all wondering. Perhaps he just pisses with the wind.
Lovie IS coming back though for 2016 so he does have that right. It’s his “nor should he be” that’s effed up and he knows it.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
I will be stoakin the fire
December 27th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
When he’s back next year I’m gonna scream.He destroyed a up and coming defense and now they wont stop a nose bleed.Some on here want him back this team isn’t gonna win with him at the helm.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Lovie Smith in 2014 when hired SMUGLY said : “but we were 4-12 last season.” Goes out and gets us 2 wins. Goes backwards. Then triple his win total and that means he shouldn’t be fired in the mind of Joe.
Okay I’m done.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
So, LovieBall will be back in 2016?!?!??? Awww Heck Yeah! CANT WAIT!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
Disagree with you 1000%. Epic meltdown to end the season. Lovie does NOT deserve to keep his job after this crapping of the bed. He should be fired for the dumb a$$ penalties alone. In fact, his undisciplined clowns gave up at least 4 wins from penalties alone. Disgraceful coaching. Fire Lovie today
December 27th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
You know who didn’t improve on 2-14, Ken Whisenhunt…
December 27th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Teams with backup qbs. Teams that haven’t won in December in two full years. These are types of teams that beat Lovie on a regular basis. I accept he isn’t getting fired.But that doesn’t mean he isn’t a sh1t head coach
December 27th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Let’s not forget the SAVIOR JW, had the opportunity to save us and he didn’t.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
If Lovie went 4-12 last year… He would have TRIPLED his wins to 12-4 this year!!! So suck it haters!! LovieBall is back in 2016! GO BUCS!!! WE’RE AWESOME!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
@ Yungry
If it were up to Joe we would have drafted Manziel.
I feal good Joe that you’ve assured me that Lovie is coming back next year so I’ll go ahead and reserve my 2017 SB tickets.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Political correctness will keep Lovie as head coach. I am so sick of it. In my world only performance counts.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
@ Joe , one thing is for sure, Lovies has the Tampa Bay Media in his pocket. Listening to his pre conference he tells you guys like it is period and will not hear anything.
Can someone please call this guy out on the this team is improved crap, we were 2-14. My mom can go from 2-14 to 6-9, I don’t think we are improved, we just have a real QB and OC. We have NO Defense ! the D won’t get better until we take the C off the chest of McCoy, He and Lovie can go in a package deal.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Been calling for his firing since th end of last year. He does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help us win on Sunday. He’s arguably the worst dcoordinator in football, the D gets shredded every week…..why keep him?
December 27th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Joe wrote an article about how these last 2 games would say alot about the heart of this team. Well Joe, what do you think about the heart of this team? I think its on life support myself. Is there a http://www.FireLovie.com website yet?
December 27th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
This team needs to stop getting a pass for the incompetence being displayed on game days.
Thanks for the laugh.
This team lost 3 in a row, way to finish team.
Lovie can less than Schiano, but he gets a complete and total pass.
What a joke.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
This Guy Right Here Says:
December 27th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
“If Lovie went 4-12 last year… He would have TRIPLED his wins to 12-4 this year!!! ”
You figured this out how?
So I’m sure you’re expecting playoffs and noting else next season. All he has to fo is double his win total from this season, but that ain’t going to happen.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Bucs = Mediocre
December 27th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Come on guys. Joe asked nice
December 27th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Git him Couch!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
I won’t call for lovie’s head. But next yr got to be make or break for his Defense. Our defense is pathetic. Quite a few need walking papers next season . I knew we would lose. jameis looks tired. And he needs the defense to help…….Next yr of course
December 27th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
No matter how many years he gets here, Lovie will never make the Bucs anything more than an average team. But maybe the Glazers would be happy with that.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Sarcasm ’87… RAGE FILLED sarcasm…
December 27th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Couch Fan Says:
December 27th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
“Joe wrote an article about how these last 2 games would say alot about the heart of this team. Well Joe, what do you think about the heart of this team? I think its on life support myself. Is there a http://www.FireLovie.com website yet?”
So right that it bears repeating in case you missed it Joe.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
@ Joe
Maybe it’s time for another Lovie Confidence Poll if you’re finished pandering
December 27th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Lovie just flat out does not instill confidence in his team or in the majority of fans. A blah coach that should have been put out to pasture. The Glazers and the fans got zoomed upon Lovie’s hiring. Good old boy ain’t no good.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Any coach on the verge of setting a NFL record for penalties should definetly be considered to be terminated !
December 27th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
I’m serious. What does Lovie offer? Good personnel decisions? Good in game management? Good schemes? Good adjustments? Good clock management? I mean the guy fails at all of that. I seriously don’t understand what the purpose of keeping him would be…I mean, you can probably get some improvement in at least one of those just by hiring a fan to coach for a year….
December 27th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Agree with joes take. Imo it’s rare to get a really good coach. You can count them on one hand. That’s not excusing lovie a flaws either. I think next year he must win 8-9 games and defense must step forward. Lovie strength is said to be defense so I think we should give him some talent this offseason and see what he can do. By talent I mean high draft picks. On the plus side I think we’ve got a franchise qb hopefully and some nice young pieces on offense: smith Marpet Evans Simms Martin. Offense is close. Another lineman and receiver done.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Lovie is a joke. Joe -they had
More wins under lovie because of pathetic schedule. Lovie deserves to be fired. I don’t know what ur smoking to think he deserves to keep his job.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:45 pm
@ Joe
Here at the last of the season, the Bucs continue to lose to very bad teams, teams that are either on a big losing streak or just coming off of one. The team at this point is not getting better, it’s getting worse
December 27th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
This Guy Right Here…oh I missed that in my own fit of rage.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
I think the league-wide interest in Koetter as a head coach will determine Lovies’s fate for 2016. The 3 game slide, 2 when they counted the most, puts a dark stain on this season. With Carolina losing today, next week’s game will be really tough to judge as legit competition or not, so a 7th win may not mean much to ownership.
If teams start interviewing Koetter for the top job, the Bucs may pull the trigger on Lovie the same way they dropped the axe on Gruden after a December slide when other teams started interviewing Raheem.
If Koetter doesn’t draw much interest, Lovie will be back in 2016, but it’s playoff time or Koetter will get the reigns for 2017.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
We plucked a guy who really didnt do all that much in College and he did better than what Lovie is doing. Stop with the we cant find any better garbage excuses. We absolutely can. And even if we can’t you dont stop trying and settle for a bad coach. The excuses are pitiful.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Forget the heart of the team. Look at the stands!!! Look at hardcore Buc fans that paid good money to leave in the third and fourth quarter in blowouts as other teams are just killing the clock!!! I like the Joe’s but I do not like seek g my football team repeatedly humiliated like that game after game!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
I can’t wait to watch this defense not be able to stop a slant pass. Honestly though I don’t mind him coming back. I don’t want Winston to have to adjust to a whole new staff. Because that is probably be what happens. Give Lovie one more year. His defense actually wasn’t horrible. I’m interested to see what kind of moves are made in the off season. And if he can’t get it done. By done I mean the playoffs next year. See yah later.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
I think the point is that there is absolutely no way the Glazers aren’t giving Lovie another year…..so to call for him to be fired is falling on deaf ears and is somewhat pointless.
No one is happy to lose the last 3 games (except fools who hope for better draft picks)….the consolation prize for losers.
You can be disappointed and even angry at the team’s ineptitude….but you’ll have to endure another year.
I choose to root for him to succeed….I’m hoping for 3 more wins next year and at least a 9-7 record.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
One more chance next season and thats it!!! Sorry but it just isnt adding up. We wouldnt be where we are had it not been for Licht and his drafting.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
If you’re going to say it’s not Lovie’s fault that there are fumbles, penalties, interceptions, blown coverages, drops, etc. (after all Lovie didn’t do them personally), then what is the point of having a head coach? Don’t give him credit when the players ball then either. All teams make mistakes like we do. We just make them in high volume. I guess the head coach is not responsible for anything.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
I think Shiano would @ least have some accountability w these ridiculous penalties.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
A few weeks ago i thought we were really heading in the right direction. Now im not so sure. Its the same stuff over and over each week that seems to kill us. Dumb penalties. Bad Defense. It seems like we just fall apart after one thing goes wrong. With a defensive head coach it seems like we could figure something out. The offense wasnt great today. But i am pleased with how they seem to be coming together. Im not sold on Lovie. But i do kinda think we need to give him one more year. If we’re dealing with the same BS next year. Then i think its time to do something else.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
TBBF…nope Joe said the words “nor should he be.” That’s his backwards twisted opinion.
Joe…you’ve learned a lot of from that guy on the radio haven’t you?
I’ve been here long enough to know you guys play this game with your readers. Tell them one thing, but say the exact opposite than what you truly believe. That’ll get em riled up…
That’s right I forgot. “Joe does not care about the what’s said in the comments.”
More hogwash!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
I think the point is that there is absolutely no way the Glazers aren’t giving Lovie another year….
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This is probably true but if enough ppl are fed up with it, the Glazers will be forced to pay attention. And if they watch the games and are true Buc fans, you never know they may feel the same way some of us do, that the Bucs are going nowhere with Lovie as Coach.
December 27th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
Lovie’s D is Softer than the Butter that just melted over my grilled boneless ribeyes…
Lovie’s players has his back these last 3 games the way the ’08 Bucs had Kiffins back in their final 4.
Lovie in 2016!!! CANT WAIT!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
Kudos to Lovie for seeing the bigger picture, just like last year, Lovie and Jason are building a team. Once the Bucs were out of the playoff picture, it’s all about securing a top ten draft pick for next year! (We just leap frogged Chicago in the draft). We did the same last year to secure the top pick (though I wanted MM). One more crop of prospects and the Bucs will be ready to challenge for the division and the playoffs going forward!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Just know that the reason if lovie gets another year will be “economic” and not “progress”!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
This defense with a banged up McCoy just isn’t very talented I’d say mediocre talent. So defense played up to their potential this year they were average. I’m going to give lovie our first 3 draft picks for defense and see if defense improves next year. If not he’s gone. Plus we need 8-9 wins next year. He’s not getting a pass his ass is on fire next year. Every fan in the world on a losing team thinks their coach sucks. It’s a basic human reaction. Every coach has weaknesses and lovers are penalties and clock management. If he can’t build a defense he’s useless. It’s too soon to say that. Also he gets credit for offensive improvement even if it’s dk and jw..
December 27th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
When the Bucs win, it’s be sis our coaches are great. When The Bucs lose, it’s because our players suck. The truth, I’m losing faith in Lovie and it appears the offense is too😏
December 27th, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Because😁 fire auto correct!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Will there be pictures in the morning of Jason Licht jumping in a septic tank with his suit on, cuz that today was stinky?
December 27th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
Outstanding!!! 🙂
December 27th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
LOVIES BACK IN 2016!!!!! Soooooooo, GOD HATES BUCS FANS?!?! YOURE DAMN RIGHT HE DOES!!! GO BUCS!!! WE’RE AWESOME!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Brent bull/buc Says:
December 27th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Agree with joes take. Imo it’s rare to get a really good coach. You can count them on one hand
But we gotta keep trying. We’ve seen 4 better coaches hired that we could have had instead. We gotta keep trying, we know Lovie is a loser.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Here is the biggest problem with firing Lovie. We don’t have any talent on defense! What talent we do have is taylor made for Lovie’s defense, see GMC, LVD, Kwon. Our corners are atrocious in man coverage and linebackers are undersized. I get it I’d like a blitz happy aggressive defense, but it requires gutting the entire defense. So unless you’re willing to have a laughing stock defense for the next couple years we are stuck here.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
I fire Lovie every chance I get in Maddon
December 27th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
You notice how the great franchises keep their classic original uniforms…the CRAPPY franchises keep changing thier uniforms …the Buucs play like clowns cause their uniforms belong in a circus…you can here Ringling brothers music playing in the back ground…in fact…they should play that music when they take the feild.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Destro. Sean McDermmott can use the talent we have and attract FA’s
December 27th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
if the defense is in the bottom half of the league in points allowed next year, then he has to go. Simple as that. If we finish the season under .500, he has to go. Simple as that. If we continue to make backups look like al-pros and lose to teams with worse records than us, he has to go. Simple as that.
Lovie will Be on the hot seat from the start of opening day next season. If he hasn’t grown some fuking balls by then, fire him.
Honestly, we all knew we were getting terrible clock management, poor personnel evaluation, and conservative pu$$y play calling when He was hired. But we thought we would at least have a good defense! If not good, at least competent and disciplined. NOPE!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
So many of you have comprehension problems. You’re upset at Joe for stating facts. It’s not giving Lovie a pass, it’s just reality. He’s not getting fired, period. It’s irrelevant if he deserves to be fired, it’s simply not going to happen. I wouldn’t shed one tear if he was fired, but if you really believe there’s any chance of it happening then you’re crazy. We could lose by 100 to Carolina and he’d be back. However, as Joe said, the pressure will be on next year. 6-10 won’t cut it. I don’t even know if 8-8 will cut it. But go ahead and continue wasting your time stating the reasons he should be fired.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
It’s hard for me to give all the credit for the drafts to Licht without holding him accountable for some of the FA misses….
I think it’s fair to say that both Licht and Lovie are responsible for the good draft picks…perhaps Lovie is more responsible for some of the misses in FA….
You have to assume Winston wouldn’t be here if Lovie didn’t want him and we wouldn’t have drafted 13-14 offensive players without Lovie’s blessing.
I’m liking what I’m seeing from Sims…Brate…and even to some degree ASJ.
Next year will be better.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
I have changed my mind. The Joe’s joining the love loyalist ( the sheep ) is a great turn of events for us!!!! I mean they were the generals of the Glennon Mob and look how that turned out!!!! It is basically the trojan bourse play to the Love loyalist!!!!!
Don’t be a moron. Joe hasn’t changed any stance. In fact, Joe wrote a “Welcome back, Lovie” post weeks ago. Scream all you want guys. Lovie is coming back next season. –Joe
December 27th, 2015 at 5:24 pm
Schiano lost his last 3 games to go from 4-9 to 4-12….. Lovie is going to lose his last FOUR games to go from 6-6 to 6-10 and JOE says his job is safe????? No offense Joe but it seems to me that the team has quit on Lovie, how does he get them back if he is retained?????
December 27th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
Destro,LVD was a monster in Sciano’s defense.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
I’m pretty sure this team fired Gruden when he truly deserved more time. Not sure was Simpleton Smith has done to deserve more time. Heck even Schiano deserved more time after the Freeman/MRSA debacle.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
So after 2 SEASONS, 30+ games, didnt we all at least expect Lovie to have hid D put together at this point? If nothing else???
So what exactly is Lovie bringing to the table??? The ALL OFFENSIVE DRAFTS (THANKS LICHT!!!)… THE EMERGING OFFENSE??? (THANKS KOETTER!!!)
So what exactly is Lovie to thank for????
December 27th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Well at least we getting better draft picks to getting better defensive players. IMO.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
I for one hates to see anyone lose a job. But Lovie is set for life money-wise. He and Licht have brought in veteran defensive linemen in free agency but they cannot create a pass rush if they keep going through the motions.
Other than one cornerback and one safety the secondary has been awful. DLine can’t rush the passer. Missed tackles every week. A bottom of the league defense and the most penalized team means the coach can’t get his players to execute his defense.
The only improvement on this team is because of great play from rookies who don’t have the loser attitude that the team has adapted and the HC hasn’t changed the culture.
The owners have to make the offensive coordinator head coach and hire a new DC that is coaching in a top five defense currently once the playoffs finish.
You can’t accept this mediocrity when you see perennial loser teams like the Jets, Cardinals, Redskins, Chiefs, turning things around in 2 or 3 seasons.
The Bucs don’t need a top 10 defense, if they could be average they’d have 3 additional wins this season. Smith’s inability to get a good effort from the D , his lack of making adjustments, his lack of getting the players to be disciplined can’t be overlooked after 2 consecutive losing seasons.
The hot seat is burning Lovie’s rear end right now.
A 3-13 home record after 2 seasons isn’t improvement in my eyes.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
The only all pro on this defense did not make the pro bowl. What a joke, blame the coach,look at the players.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
Lets be frank
Ask around. No-One would blink- if Lovie’s fired tomorrow.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:44 pm
Billboards!!!
December 27th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Why the hate on McCoy. A sack, a tackle for loss out of four solo tackles and two tipped passes- one negated by an AH play by Verner. All while nursing a torn rotor cuff and with hardware in his hand. Knock off the bs. The majority of guys in his condition would be on the beach on Sunday’s. As far as Lovie. If he was running a business in the private sector he would be toast. Enough said.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
Without a consistent pass rush from the front 4 and cornerbacks missing tackles, the Tampa 2 defense is pretty easy to beat. This loss is due to both along a lack of discipline with all the dumb penalties. The silver lining is that we might end up picking in the top 10 of the draft.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
I mean we gotta at least let it out, be angry and vent. We mostly know this loser coach is coming back next year even if we all know we’re never winning a participation medal with him as a coach. We have so many disgusting losses to teams we need to beat.
I said it in the game thread, but the only reason Lovie is coming back is Jameis…something he earned through his coaching incompetence. The only good thing he’s done to improve this team: Being awful at his job. We really need to do better, if the fans are as angry as they were with Schiano it’s possible. Dare to dream folks, dare to dream.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
Tell us Joe HOW IS LOVIE MAKING THIS TEAM BETTER!
He is better than Schiano?
Joe you are on the Don’t slam Lovie or You don’t get invited to One Buc Place anymore.
The Glazers don’t want to pay another Coach to sit. And Lovie would Sit cause no one else wants him.
PLEASE JOE write the Truth.
Team is not progressing.
The Defense is worse..
The player evaluation is horrible…Jennings and Jenkins to start.
Joe Be Real!!!
I’m sure Lovie is here for another year. But the Glazers better be ready to lose more Fans and more Home Games that look like away games..
Oh and you Blind fans can go follow the BROWNS they don’t care if they win..
Fans in Tampa want a Winning team or at least a team to show up and play with heart.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
Rabble rabble rabble! Stability at the head coach position equals wins.
December 27th, 2015 at 5:59 pm
Lovie getting a 3rd year is merely punishment for the Bucs having a chance to break the Gruden curse by hiring Jay before the Redskins but hiring Lovie instead. Jay Gruden…you know a coach who endured a QB fiasco of his own but has his team in the playoffs in his second season with the team instead of saying we need more time…simple as that. Ah well…I’m pretty much checking out on the remainder of the Buc’s season…wake me up for the draft or if the Glazer’s find the stones to pull the plug on the Lovie experiment.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
“Nor should he be” – JoeBucsFan
Realist… you’re right and Joe is wrong. He has become a Lovie Loyalist.
Joe …can I ask you a question that you won’t answer?
Do you honestly believe that he DESERVES to come back? Be honest.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
I went to the game today…today’s loss can’t be hung on Lovie.
Coming out flat against the Saints and Rams – that’s a different story. Let’s be real though NO ONE had realistic expectations for the Bucs to even be in the playoff hunt with a real chance at any point this year especially after the first meltdown in week 1. The team tripled the win total from last year and even spent some time talking playoffs. We’re building and we’re heading in the right direction. The only bright side of losing is we get a better draft pick and might be able to finally find an edge rusher. Then use the cap space we have to plug up the secondary.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
On a side note. Case Keenum is lighting up the Seahawks right now.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
Lovie is not a good coach. Period.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
JamesBucsFan…I don’t trust these clowns plugging ANY holes in free agency.
Can anyone name a good FA the Bucs picked up over the last 2 seasons?
Schiano and Dom brought in VJAX so he certainly doesn’t count.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:22 pm
We will never win with Lovie.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:31 pm
ATrain Says:
“Tell us Joe HOW IS LOVIE MAKING THIS TEAM BETTER!”
Is the offense not better? You people may not want to admit it, but it was LOVIE’S decision to build the offense first. He had little to do with Free Agents. Who signs free agents? Who works out the deals? Who heads the scouting for free agency?
Jason Licht.
When a head coach is hired, is it with the intent of hampering the fulfillment of his vision (that you hired him for) by not letter in choose draft picks? No. When you hire a NAME coach, he gets control of the draft. Lovie is considered a NAME coach.
So, although it doesn’t fit the hate agenda, you all have Lovie to thank for our freshly built offense…the best offense this team has ever had.
You blame him for penalties?
Lovie is rebuilding this team from the bottom up. A whole new offensive line…and btw, most offensive penalties take place on the offensive line. Especially when they are so young and inexperienced. It comes with development.
As to the defensive penalties? Because the drafts have only had one defensive player in the two years they have been here, Jason Licht has brought in scrubs and inexperienced guys. Why else do you think we have so much money to work with this year?
Obviously, the plan is to rebuild through the draft…completely. The offense is mostly done. FA can address the 1-2 holes there. The next draft is for defense. Finally.
So yes, Lovie HAS made this team better. You guys have horrible memory. The wins may not show it, but this team is truly on the verge…more so than any time in the last ten years.
I know the haters and trolls will say otherwise. Oh well. I’d like to think it will drive them off when we lose next week, but I know better. Frankly, I’m so tired of the trolls and haters that I’ve been considering moving on from JBF at this point. Nothing against Joe…just the company he keeps.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
BuccaneerBonzai is the leader of the Lovie Loser Crew. If you wanna slob on Lovie’s knob go start your own site Loviestastynuts.com or whatever. True fans see Lovie is a trainwreck taking this team nowhere but wasting our time in the process.
December 27th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
23 losses and counting…
Offense looks bad without Jackson and is predictable on first down and the defense is just a joke like Loser Lovie’s track record in free agency
December 27th, 2015 at 7:21 pm
I want to try the kool-aid Bonzai is drinking.
December 27th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
So let’s see how well the Bucs play against a team probably resting it’s starters next week. Carolina needs to win for home field advantage and they’ll do it with their backups playing more than a half. Way to go Lovie. Please retire so I don’t have to scream for your firing next week.
December 27th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
I think even if Lovie went 4-12 this season the Glaziers wouldn’t fire him. Then they’d be paying him, the new head coach, and Schiano (final year). I don’t want him gone regardless. We need continuity.
December 27th, 2015 at 8:35 pm
Bonzai. Are you kidding me.. We can’t beat the Rams. We can’t beat 2nd string QBs on several teams…
Dirk is the reason for Offense…
Lovie calls the Defense.
By the way LOVIE keep playing Jennings.
He keeps Dye who could catch a football if it was handed to him.
Please Lovie was handed the calls on players in FA..We keep taking Chicago players…
You make me laugh… His record doesn’t mean anything… Most of the teams we played this year SUCK..
December 27th, 2015 at 8:36 pm
The Den Of Depression will be almost EMPTY next year. Improvements or not. Only FOOLS would spend hard earned money to watch this garbage.
December 27th, 2015 at 8:48 pm
Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result..
The definition of Stupid…
Expect the same results from this team
December 27th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
The problem with firing Lovie is you have to his replacement ready to plug in immediately. Unless Licht is going to hire the new coach it will be another subpar coach hire. The Glazers have proven their inability to hire a great coach. The good news is Lovie will have plenty of draft picks in place for the next coach.
December 27th, 2015 at 10:35 pm
Bonzai…you my friend are in for a long off season on this site.
You’ll catch up to the rest of us eventually, or perhaps not with all your cockamamie notions that Jason Licht brought in all these former Bears and former players that ran the Tampa 2.
“He had little to do with free agents”
You keep telling us that, with no explanation as to why or how you’ve come to this conclusion. Sure Jason makes the phone calls….that Lovie TELLS him to make.
Wake up man.
December 28th, 2015 at 6:38 am
Kalind Says:
December 27th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
I’m serious. What does Lovie offer? Good personnel decisions? Good in game management? Good schemes? Good adjustments? Good clock management
get out of here they are losing because they are not that talented
December 28th, 2015 at 6:43 am
@ed
The Bucs don’t need a top 10 defense, if they could be average they’d have 3 additional wins this season. Smith’s inability to get a good effort from the D , his lack of making adjustments, his lack of getting the players to be disciplined can’t be overlooked after 2 consecutive losing seasons
get a clue they do not have the talent on defense they must upgrade the defense
December 28th, 2015 at 6:49 am
He should be fired for the dumb a$$ penalties alone. In fact, his undisciplined clowns gave up at least 4 wins from penalties alone. Disgraceful coaching
look a lot of these players develop bad habits in college. they are in the pros, they should know the rules the penalties are on the players and they should sit for dumb mistakes
December 28th, 2015 at 6:57 am
@desanova
If you’re going to say it’s not Lovie’s fault that there are fumbles, penalties, interceptions, blown coverages, drops, etc. (after all Lovie didn’t do them personally), then what is the point of having a head coach? Don’t give him credit when the players ball then either. All teams make mistakes like we do. We just make them in high volume. I guess the head coach is not responsible for anything
that means you have guys who do not belong in the nfl as starters. the good players know their assignments and execute. stop blaming the coach for bonehead plays by the players.
December 28th, 2015 at 1:50 pm
IF LOVIE IS HERE NEXT YEAR THEY WILL EVEN BE MORE EMPTY SEATS IN TAMPA !!! SO BE READY FOR ANOTHER LOOSING YEAR 2016 …….
December 28th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Yet, I saw the last ‘confidence poll’ and everyone was sooooooo confident in him. I’ve been screaming to dump the guy since he was HIRED. There was no chance this was going to work. I win again, sadly. ….God I wish I was wrong more…
December 28th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
If Dirk Koetter goes it will be an empty stadium again next season. Why is it so hard to just accept this team will always suck.They will screw this up somehow. It will happen