Jameis Or Matty Ice?
December 3rd, 2015
Which one would you prefer to face?
Yes, yesterday Joe wondered aloud if after 11 games, America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, already is better than one of the game’s best, fellow NFC South quarterback Matty Ice of the Dixie Chicks.
You could argue over the past month or so Jameis has outplayed Matty Ice.
Now, the Dixie Chicks are circling the drain, having coughed up five of their last six games. They and the Bucs will tangle for their postseason dreams Sunday at the Den of Depression.
In a recent NBC Sports video, former NFL safety Rodney Harrison and the creator, curator and overall guru of Pro Football Talk, the great Mike Florio, discuss who they would rather face as a defensive player/coach, Matty Ice or Jameis.
You may be surprised.
December 3rd, 2015 at 5:39 am
On any given gameday in the NFL, any QB might outplay any other QB. From what I’ve seen over the years, there are 3 factors involved in that:
1 – How good a day the QB himself is having.
2 – How good the team around him is playing.
3 – How good the gameplan is and how well the coaches adjust to what the other team is doing.
QB comparisons are meaningless, except to the press. It’s how they fit with the TEAM that surrounds them that counts. Win-lose records? Now that’s meaningful.
December 3rd, 2015 at 7:19 am
Up in ATL they are speculating Matt Ryan’s arm is shot, no pro arm strength right now. Bucs got to pressure and hit hm
December 3rd, 2015 at 7:30 am
@ Defense Rules
I would add the competition to your list……a QB can look really bad against the Panthers & really good against the Eagles, for example….
As for QB comparisons……you won’t see me doing it unless it’s for QBs on the same team. I think it’s meaningless and rather boring.
December 3rd, 2015 at 7:54 am
Good point TBBF, dead on. Used to be that the Bucs defense was the one who could make other QBs look really bad. We’re getting back to that, it’ll just take awhile.
December 3rd, 2015 at 8:09 am
I would say its a bit early for that comparison. Matty is currently better simply because of experience.
Even though he is having a bad year, Matty is still Matty.
That doesn’t mean Winston cannot become better, but drawing such conclusions now is far too early.
That said, Matty might not even be in our division next year.
December 3rd, 2015 at 8:12 am
Wow. I am shocked. Florio has been in the anti-Jameis camp all year. He constantly brings up the facts that Jameis has character issues and throws INT’s. I am really surprised he is coming around, even with the evidence of this year that shows what it does.
December 3rd, 2015 at 8:14 am
It is this simple…if we were playing in the superbowl tomorrow, which quarterback would you prefer to represent Tampa?
Setting aside my homerism, I think right now, it would have to by Matty. He gives the best chance of success at this stage of Winston’s development.
By mid season next year? Well, Jameis still has a lot to prove, but I have a feeling that by then we’ll know completely what we have in him.
All things being what they are right now though, I prefer Winston to be our quarterback…although, with this oline, the running game and such, I would imagine Matty would do better with Tampa this year then with the Falcons.
December 3rd, 2015 at 8:17 am
@Brett
Not so surprising.
Here, Joe awards Jameis with praises before he earns them. It’s his right, of course.
I belong to the praises “when earned” club FOR ALL PLAYERS…and that includes Jameis.
Winston and Mariota will both undergo criticism until they prove people wrong. So far as Winston’s pass…well…he earned that criticism. He’ll have to carry it throughout his career.
December 3rd, 2015 at 8:32 am
Matt Ryan isn’t playing well right now. Five interceptions in the two games and eight in the last four.
Is it a blip? Perhaps.
But he’s been throwing dumb passes. Those picks weren’t on tipped passes, they ducks floated into double coverage.
Not good if you’re Atlanta.
December 3rd, 2015 at 9:04 am
Love everything about Winston at this point with the exception of some issues with accuracy. That will be the only thing to keep him from becoming great, if it can’t be corrected. I know that at times throws that appear to be off target may be due to the receiver not running the route accurately as well but nonetheless Winston could improve in accuracy. IMHO
December 3rd, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Don’t matter. This will be another tough game for our Bucs come Sunday. Freeman and Hester are returning from injury and…..The Falcons had a players only meeting yesterday. An uptick in practice was noticed. They will play very hard Bucs fans. Who will be more up and play with a more sense of urgency is yet to be seen. This will not an easy game. I…..will not be surprised at the results either way. Can’t even try to call it.
December 3rd, 2015 at 1:55 pm
I hope s. moore shadows Julio all game and let the rookie handle the aging roddy white…pressure Ryan and stop the run and we should come out with a “w”…GO BUCS!!!
December 3rd, 2015 at 4:58 pm
As mentioned above, this is a tough game to call a winner. In the last meeting in Atlanta, the Bucs had no turnovers while the Falcons had four. Atlanta had a little over 200 total yards more than the Bucs in the game. This will be a hard fought game on both sides. It will take one of the Bucs best performances of the year to win this game. Go Bucs!!