“Everybody Was Like In Shock”
December 1st, 2015
Lavonte David speaks
It might surprise some Tampa Bay fans that the Buccaneers, a 5-6 team coming off a 2-14 season, aren’t used to losing.
That’s a damn good thing.
It seems America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, and the young Bucs are changing the losing mindset that had infested the locker room in recent years.
Speaking on the Buccaneers Radio Network last night, Lavonte David said losing a lead and then losing 25-12 to the Colts on Sunday was hard to accept.
“You walk in the locker room and everybody was like in shock. Like, ‘Man, we lost,'” David said. “You know, we was getting that feeling of winning. And then you lose, and it’s like, ‘Man.” And then you lose a game that you know you had. We were up. We were up in the football game.”
Joe could see players being stunned after losing the historic Capital Collapse in Washington on Oct. 25. But Sunday? The Bucs were beaten soundly in the second half on both sides of the ball, and they came unglued with stupid penalties and a turnover.
Regardless, David went on to say good team meetings Monday and easy issues to correct give the Bucs confidence heading into a critical showdown against the Falcons in Tampa.
December 1st, 2015 at 5:24 am
Next two are winnable home games.
December 1st, 2015 at 5:59 am
@Joe … “The Bucs were beaten soundly in the second half on both sides of the ball, and they came unglued with stupid penalties and a turnover.”
You hit the nail right on the head Joe .. the Bucs couldn’t hang with the Colts in the second half. Offensively the Colts were very patient (for the most part), and wore down the Bucs defense. Defensively the Colts pressured Jameis all day (much better in the second half I thought), kept him off-balance, and took away the running game.
Had the WRs stepped up, we still could’ve beaten them. On the short-mid stuff, Bucs were great (18-for-24), but on the deep stuff they were horrendous (2-for-12). Going deep every third play just isn’t a good game plan in my book, unless you’re playing someone with a really weak secondary. Not the Colts.
Strange thing is that the Colts went deep nearly as much as the Bucs did … but with a lot more success. On the short-to-mid stuff they were 20-for-31, but on the deep stuff they went 6-for-8. Says something about our secondary?
December 1st, 2015 at 7:04 am
Most of our deep throws were either into coverage or way off target…and we had the drop…..but I agree….when you are third & 5, that is the time to go for the 10 yard pass.
Our offensive game plan should have included quick drops with short passes…that’s what other teams do to us when we shut down their run.
December 1st, 2015 at 7:22 am
We got out-coached, simple as that…
December 1st, 2015 at 7:23 am
Week after week it’s always “easy issues to correct”. Guess what. They are not correcting them and time is running out.
December 1st, 2015 at 7:24 am
With Lovie as our coach losing is the norm. I don’t think any fans were shocked we lost that game.
December 1st, 2015 at 7:43 am
Stupid penalties? 1/3 of the penalties are BS, and I see a ton of penalties that should have been called on the other team.
#20 of the colts ran began horse-collar tackling Martin on the 40 yard like and kept it up for a 10 full yards and no flag? Go back and watch that run at 4:30 in the second quarter and you’ll see it. But the refs missed it? Even when Martin is down #20 still has his hands on Martin’s back!!!
December 1st, 2015 at 7:56 am
Joe’s,
As U know, I was the main poster on this blog. Insisting that we trade down, and acquire multiple 1st round picks, plus additional assets and compensation.
I can’t help it, I’m Ole Skool brotha.
I’ve seen more than enough Championships won with average quarterback play – and demolishing defenses.
Ad nauseam -U heard Me Preach -U dominate the trenches, U dominate the Game.
I’ve barked about Quality Depth over Quality Debt… Yada Yada Yada
But I have to admit – the kid has won me over. After closely observing him maturation from college to the pros. An I’m extremely pleased, with what I’ve seen on the field, and even more impressed with what I’ve heard off it.
Great Pick!
Darn Glad we didn’t draft Manziel though.
Great Video of Mr. D, Mr. Books & Young Jamies
http://www.buccaneers.com/videos/videos/NFLN-Gameday-Talks-Winstons-Maturity/2efad0ae-7be8-40f9-b1ae-e88d1b56cb2d
December 1st, 2015 at 7:57 am
Observing *his
December 1st, 2015 at 7:57 am
Great Video of Mr. D, Mr. *Brooks & Young Jamies
December 1st, 2015 at 8:12 am
Funny. I’m so used to what we got in Washington and Indianapolis, that I consider THAT to be the norm. It was the Dallas and Philly games that put ME in shock.
December 1st, 2015 at 8:51 am
@Clw JB … “We got out-coached, simple as that…”
Not really. Coaches don’t block, coaches don’t run the ball, coaches don’t throw the ball, coaches don’t catch the ball, coaches don’t kick FGs. Our beloved Bucs … with current players … are about a 6-10 team, maybe as good as an 8-8 team. Too many holes, on defense and offense, to be a true playoff contender right now, unless several other teams fizzle. The Colts did a great job of capitalizing on our weaknesses. Give them credit. Give us 1-2 more excellent drafts and the game results will be much different.
December 1st, 2015 at 9:33 am
The only way to get that nasty losing taste out of their mouths, is to win against the Falcons. If they really want to enjoy the taste of winning then win at least 4 of the next games. They’ll never be able to stomach losing again if they can accomplish that. The stinking losing mentality will finally be forever gone from Tampa with both fans and players. I truly hope that happens. Playoffs Baby…Go Bucs!!!
December 1st, 2015 at 9:55 am
Penalties=bad coaching.
Don Shula’s Dolphins were always the least penalized team in the NFL.
Whether he was a better teacher or a tyrant, year after year, fewest penalties.
Referees respected that, and would hold the Fin’s opponents to a higher standard as well.
Remember how Schiano had never even read the rule book, referee’s would have to give him tutorials on the sidelines.
December 1st, 2015 at 9:59 am
Luv..the pick really was a no brainer. I think that’s part of the reason why so many of us Noles fans were so damn adamant about the Bucs drafting him. We were called fanboys and various other names for 3 months. I kept insisting that it had nothing to do with me being a Noles fan. I wanted Jameis so bad that I still couldn’t believe he was our QB 3 months after the draft took place. Joe scribed his TC notes with Jameis this and Jameis that. Still couldn’t believe it. Watched the preseason games and I think it took me until the 3rd preseason game for it to finally sink in. I’m with you, I luv my Bucs and want the best for them.
I’m pretty sure all summer long, I mentioned those words. “I can’t believe the Bucs have JW.” It’s very good to see about 90% of the fans that post on JBF have been won over. That happened right about the time I predicted it would happen, by midseason. Fans laughed and scoffed at me. Some even said that I’d be cursing his name by midseason. Nowadays I just smile when I see comments being made about how they’ve been “won over” by Jameis.
The off-field crap bothered me too until I started to look into it further. Andrew 1 and I talked about the off field crap way back in last Nov. Andrew is really the one that got me to research the kid a little bit more. Because at the time, I said I wouldn’t JW with a 20 foot pole. I knew he had talent, I knew he was a charismatic leader, but he’s already exceeded my expectations for his rookie season. I guess what I’m trying to say is, I didn’t think he would take over this team so soon. Judging by what he does on the sidelines and says in the locker room, he’s the only true leader on this team. Sure we have vets, but none of them have the charisma and swagger of JW. The vets know this too. I think one of them should have ripped off the C from the shoulder of their uniform and gave it to JW after the Philly game.
December 1st, 2015 at 10:04 am
Newbucsfan2…if they do that, I’ll dance down Dale Mabry naked as a Jay Bird. It won’t be a pretty sight, but it will do wonders for Hooters. One look at my scrawny frame and people will be craving chicken wings. 🙂
December 1st, 2015 at 10:05 am
@Chesssmaster, though there were a lot of penalties that did seem pretty phantom, that was not a horse-collar on Martin’s run. In order for it to be a horse-collar the ball carrier must be pulled directly to the ground by the grasp inside the back of the shoulder pads, if the ball carrier spins around or drags the defender it discounts the horse-collar and since Martin was not snapped back to the ground it was in effect not a horse-collar. hope this helps with the rule, I am an official on a few different levels.
December 1st, 2015 at 10:20 am
Miguel Grande …and the Seahawks have been one of the most penalized teams in the league over the last 2-3 years.
Not defending Lovie, just don’t get your point.
December 1st, 2015 at 10:26 am
1987
Ok, we heard it here first. We’re going to hold you to it. Hey maybe at least wear a #3 jersey :)!
December 1st, 2015 at 10:27 am
The Bucs caught the Falcons asleep at the wheel during the last matchup, this week will be a far better litmus test for where the Bucs stand in the division. If they can beat Atlanta soundly, then they are clearly on the right trajectory. If they eke out a win or lose a close one, there’s a lot more work to be done. If they get blown out, the previous wins may have been fools gold…
December 1st, 2015 at 11:45 am
@LuvMyBucs
You da man!!! On a blog where posters live to say I told you so you admit a mistake!!!
Hey I’m not far behind…I said 10 wins…whoa now we have to win out or I’ll be joining you in the OOPS brigade. 🙂
December 1st, 2015 at 1:06 pm
87
I’ve been a diehard Nole Fan for a long time brotha.
But I’ll never let that affect – what I want for the BUCS.
Giving the circumstances – I’ll never say that the picks was a no brainer/lock pick.
But- I am pleased with the results.
So there it is there – Now we’ve got our quarterback.
Now its time to finished tightening-up the O-Line
Note of Caution: Remember the 1990 Draft
We drafted McCants- Even though there was a compelling…
arguement for us to draft more offensive line help (Early)
I’ll never forget how Miami drafted two lineman for Marino (Early)
(1st Round)-LT-Richmond Webb
(2nd Round) -OG-Keith Sims
While we drafted McCants, Cobb, and Anderson. Before picked Mayberry & Beckles (late)
I always wondered how much better Testaverede would have been with
Following Line -up
LT – Paul Gruber
LG – Keith Simms
C – Tony Mayberry
RG – Ian Beckles
RT – Richmond Webb
*As a Franchise its been one our greatest downfalls. Because we’ve never took the time to really – drop premuim picks into the Oline.
Williams, DeBerg, Young, Testeverde, and Dilfer suffered because of it.
So I’m all in – for us to double down on the O-Line in the draft.
Then pick up more defensive help through Free Agency
December 1st, 2015 at 1:11 pm
StPeteBucsFan
Hey – Its still early but I have to admit. I’m very pleased – how the young man is conducting himself – So I was wrong.
I’m still cautiously optimistic about Lovie Smith. But I’m please with the direction the team is headed in – So he has my support as well.
December 1st, 2015 at 9:46 pm
Cant expect these guys to make it to the playoffs and the big game this year but i can expect to finally be excited to watch them and know that they can and will compete.. the bucs will be fine. If they beat atlanta at home this week. Watch out olayoffs. I think the lost was good for them and it wasnt a conference game. Brought them down off of that high from spanking the eagles. Of course u hate to lose but look how they play when they are hungry. When they have that chip on their shoulder this year. #gobucs